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6 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

I've been calling for Dorinda's dismissal all season and am glad to see it finally happen. Her belligerence, bully behavior and anger/drinking issues were bringing the show down and were hard to watch on a weekly basis. In all honesty, I think Bravo did her a favor. She needs to address her personal problems and get into some serious therapy and alcohol treatment. I initially liked her but the last couple of seasons it's been hell on earth watching her bully other castmates...the worst bullying I've ever seen was her unrelenting beat down of Tinsley. There was absolutely no reason for the amount of crap she piled on her...which included stalking, unprovoked attacks on her and passive agressive remarks that were burtful and crass. For that matter, I would hope that Sonja and Ramona are also fired. Their schtick is getting old and Sonja's drinking is embarassing and pathetic. Ramona is just sad and boring. I'm all for a big change up that brings fresh faces and stories to the show.

Perfectly said. She will not get help until she reaches her rock bottom, and maybe this firing will help that happen, because nothing else has. She has been an inexcusable nasty human being the last two seasons, but I really liked her In her first few seasons.

I sincerely hope she deals with her demons because she really needs professional help - after she recognizes she needs help.

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1 hour ago, AttackTurtle said:

A few other housewives from other shows have been pretty nasty...Tamara, Nene, Vicki, Rinna, Brandi, Leanne, etc... but I’m hard pressed to find one as unapologetically nasty as Dorinda (maybe Rinna or Brandi). 

Rinna is one of the reasons I quit watching that franchise.  I was getting close to calling it quits with this one too because of Dorinda.  Apparently she has no self-awareness of how she treats others, or else she simply doesn't care.  That's even worse. 

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1 minute ago, ChitChat said:

Rinna is one of the reasons I quit watching that franchise.  I was getting close to calling it quits with this one too because of Dorinda.  Apparently she has no self-awareness of how she treats others, or else she simply doesn't care.  That's even worse. 

And I stopped watching any episode of RHOA with Nene in it for the same reason.

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I'm going to keep this simple (tho I have many more thoughts & perceptions --- my brain cells overloading with gut feelings about The Dorinda Dilemma. 

Now that the disturbing team of BRAVO & Andy C. have dusted off their hands of this troubled cast member - "Good bye, good luck and get out!" - I breathe a sigh of relief that Dorinda may finally seek help - and hopefully grow - from the love of her 'real' family and her true friends!  (Viewers KNOW that BRAVO & ANDY encouraged her 'bad behavior on camera" & you then petted her for it on WWHL. ☹️

As for any potential further changes in the mishmash of what remains of RHONY. may I please direct your future casting choices to WOMEN WITH A BIT OF WIT!  ALA Carole R- such a perfect example of dry, droll NYC banter.  And, alas, yes to Bethenny F. whose grim, gallows 'take-no-prisoners' irony gave us much-needed absurdity!

Farewell & so long & be well to Dorinda ('we hardly knew ye').....BUT MAY BRAVO & ANDY C. PULEEEZE FILL THE RHONY WITH A CAST MEMBER - OR 2 OR 3 - WHO REPRESENT(s) THE WIT & WRYNESS THAT IS THE REAL NYC. 

 

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1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

Rinna is one of the reasons I quit watching that franchise.  I was getting close to calling it quits with this one too because of Dorinda.  Apparently she has no self-awareness of how she treats others, or else she simply doesn't care.  That's even worse

She also seems to think her actions are justified, and pulls that "oh yeah?! well, you...." shit which, imo, is infuriating.

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2 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

And I stopped watching any episode of RHOA with Nene in it for the same reason.

Nene had one good season...the first one.  And then her head blew up.  I’m amazed they have kept her on.

 

Rinna seems to love being the pot stirrer; however she can’t take it.  I cut way back on BH, but someone needs to come for her.  Garcelle took a couple shots and I was literally applauding.  
 

There have already been leaks that Dorinda was especially terrible to production.  Someone even refused to work with her again.  

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7 hours ago, chlban said:

I didn't find Tinsley all that interesting either, but she was sweet and likeable. Leah is boring and not the slightest bit likeable.

Tinsley had a good heart and was never mean spirited like Dorinda...if anything she was too nice...especially with Sonja who bashed her behind her back and to her face complaining that Tinsley was a bad guest and didn't properly pay her back for allowing Tinsley to stay at her dumpy townhouse...even after Tinsley gave her a thank you party and gifted her some extravagant present. Sonja, Dorinda and Ramona were a trio of trolls and mean girls...time to break them up and send them far away.

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20 hours ago, nexxie said:

Maybe Dorinda could get a spin-off if she agreed to film her journey to sobriety - something completely different with a different cast. Perhaps produced by someone other than Boozy Bravo.

That show already exists. It's called Intervention.

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1 hour ago, essexjan said:

That show already exists. It's called Intervention.

I’ll have to watch it - but Dorinda would probably want her own show, maybe called “Dorinda Makes It Nice and Sober.”

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15 hours ago, Jextella said:

I'd actually watch that. I like everything else about Dorinda.  I wish she could have acknowledged she needed help and shown us growth on next season of NYC.

Ramona is very observant and picks up on this stuff better than most.  IMO, of course.  She nailed it early on.  Last season, even???

They did a show interviewing producers of Vanderpump Rules and also of Beverly Hills way back when.  They were both really interesting and fun.  If those shows are available, they'd be worth watching.  I might try to find them!

BRAVO re-ran the first couple if seasons if BH during quarantine. I was struck by how much more interesting it was. Same with NY. As for VP rules, If they re-ran the early seasons I missed it, but I remember that I really, really liked the show in the beginning. Now, I find it unmatchable. Sad, really.

13 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

And I stopped watching any episode of RHOA with Nene in it for the same reason.

I quit RHOA and RHNJ years ago, because I found the women so unlikeable. Never could get into Dallas.

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17 hours ago, Bluesky said:

And you don’t need to shop at the upscale version of Forever 21 to look good.  

Sonia's line of stuff doesn't look all that much better.

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On 8/26/2020 at 6:30 PM, politichick said:

Ramona has said she leaves big tips because she knows she's demanding, which does not by any means excuse her behavior, but she is not vicious. Rude, yes, cruel, no. The service/wait staff likely don't like her behavior and probably talk about her like a dog and she's not the first or the last of that ilk they've encountered. I am by no means defending her but she cannot be compared to Dorinda, who has fucking lost the plot.

Agree with those who believe Leah cheapens the brand. She is like a rebellious, petulant teenager and nobody has time for that. The show could gradually add some younger, ACCOMPLISHED socialite types to whom the OGs could be like fairy godmothers, as they are very gradually phased out. I am a woman of a certain age, and have loved all kinds of shows about younger people, including Gossip Girl, the Beverly Hills 90210, etc. (the latter of which which appalled the man I was with at the time), SATC (although I was older than but closer in age to Samantha), etc., and I am writing a young adult novel so watch and enjoy tons of teen stuff, but I appreciate what the RHONY bring to our screens. 

Abso-fucking-lutely (TM Mr. Big) that the series needs to add a NYC Garcelle. I'm sure there is a lovely group to choose from.

 

Honestly, most of the ladies have been embarrassing, but it used to be some Broads cutting loose and having a good time. Not desperately drunk in every scene. Leah does not annoy because of her age but because she is wildly immaturity and attention-seeking. Her 12 year old seems more mature and well-mannered (someone did a good job with her). What pissed me off the most was at the restaurant in Mexico where she kept saying "pussy" only to push Ramona's buttons. It was something a teen or 20 something does to annoy their parents. Before that it was how she left Lu's Spa Day treat for the women in her Formerly Incarcerated Group because she was so emotional over fucking Ruh-moan-uh. Let's be frank the women were Ladies of Color and she moans about RHONY needed diversity, yet she was less than impressive with them. It was so selfish. She needs to grow up stat! 

And Show, that should not be the only context in which we see Black people on this show going forward, btw. That really took me out of the scene. Do better Andy and Co.

All this talk about a younger show and demographic makes me think about Selling Sunset. I've been watching that since Season One but ti really took of recently. The reason Selling Sunset is doing so well is because of the house porn, Christine's wardrobe and bitchiness, the sweeping views of LA, and some of the Ladies are genuinely likable..Yeah, they get drunk but it's not every scene, and they take care of their business. Leah would not fit into that show either and the ladies are in their 30s (though I suspect some are really in their 40s and lying about it) on there.

The older ladies are no picnic though. It cracks me up that they are so snobby. Yet so crass and disgusting. I really hope they clean-up literally and stop with all the damn diarrhea.  I have nicknamed the show "As the Stomach Turns" ala old school soap opera, but without the cleanliness of soap!

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On 8/27/2020 at 7:03 PM, AttackTurtle said:

Dorinda has had nasty moments since her first season.  She went off on Heather out of the blue her first season.  She set her sights on Sonja and that went on for a couple seasons.  She only decided to become Sonja’s champion this year to cause a rift between Sonja and Ramona.  She then went after Luanne and that was nasty.  Finally, the attack on Tinsley.  Tinsley didn’t do shit to Dorinda; of course Heather, Sonja, and Luanne didn’t either.  She has always used Richard’s death as her “out” for her behavior.  I don’t buy that her behavior is entirely linked to his death.  The man died of liver failure.  I think alcohol has played a role in Dorinda’s life for some time.  None of the other ladies would bring that up, but honestly I don’t think Dorinda would’ve extended the same courtesy to any of them.

A few other housewives from other shows have been pretty nasty...Tamara, Nene, Vicki, Rinna, Brandi, Leanne, etc... but I’m hard pressed to find one as unapologetically nasty as Dorinda (maybe Rinna or Brandi). 

She came on as a giver, listener, and a person interested in helping everyone.  Then her head spins around, and she gets this vicious look about her, then she attacks.  If Richard was still alive, they probably would be divorced as the real Dorinda would be out.  She’s jealous of everyone’s beauty, their boyfriends, their money, etc.  She pretends to be a good Christian, but isn’t.  A good Christian doesn’t belittle and abuse people with her words.   I don’t even think alcohol was her whole problem .. I think it was jealously.  She used John for whatever.  If she was coming back, I wouldn’t watch anymore.  She was vile.

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On 8/28/2020 at 10:36 AM, chlban said:

BRAVO re-ran the first couple if seasons if BH during quarantine. I was struck by how much more interesting it was. Same with NY. As for VP rules, If they re-ran the early seasons I missed it, but I remember that I really, really liked the show in the beginning. Now, I find it unmatchable. Sad, really.

I quit RHOA and RHNJ years ago, because I found the women so unlikeable. Never could get into Dallas.

I hear ya...seems like adter a few seasons all these women with few exceptions are phoning it in and doing it solely for the purpose of promoting some product they re hawking or some some company they own.

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Wow, Bravo even has Dorinda in the newest commercial promoting the September premier of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 

Note its the commerical featuring a remote talking head of 7 regulars  - one from each Housewife franchise. Dorinda represents NYC.

Guess it was filmed pre firing.

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2 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Wow, Bravo even has Dorinda in the newest commercial promoting the September premier of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 

Note its the commerical featuring a remote talking head of 7 regulars  - one from each Housewife franchise. Dorinda represents NYC.

Guess it was filmed pre firing.

Probably filmed pre reunion. I have a sneaking suspicion that something went down there. Kind of like Vicki hanging herself at last year's OC reunion.

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33 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Probably filmed pre reunion. I have a sneaking suspicion that something went down there. Kind of like Vicki hanging herself at last year's OC reunion.

Yeah, I'm feeling like the reunion is the dealbreaker. That she doubled down and alienated most of the rest of the cast. If she had had some kind of breakthrough at the reunion, they probably would have kept her.

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On 8/27/2020 at 7:34 PM, Stats Queen said:

Perfectly said. She will not get help until she reaches her rock bottom, and maybe this firing will help that happen, because nothing else has. She has been an inexcusable nasty human being the last two seasons, but I really liked her In her first few seasons.

I sincerely hope she deals with her demons because she really needs professional help - after she recognizes she needs help.

Me too. So far, I see no signs Dorinda is ready to get help though. I just see denial. Sometimes she seems almost gleeful about her successful bullying of someone. It's nauseating. She is arrogant, caustic and trying to get away with her behavior by saying she's "going through a lot" or grieving Richard. 

She doesn't appear to want to take responsibility for her behavior, to humble herself or even just to stop doing what she's doing. 

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Look, I don't know that there's an expiration date on grieving a spouse, so I'm not going to fault her much for that.  There is however, an expiration on being a shitty person.  Dorinda is a shitty human being, and I don't think that Richard Medley should be held responsible for that.

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On 8/27/2020 at 7:03 PM, AttackTurtle said:

Dorinda has had nasty moments since her first season.  She went off on Heather out of the blue her first season.  

Yes!  That was the first indication that something was "off" with Dorinda.  I did not 'get it' then, and I STILL don't know what that 'from-left-field' fury was all about.

What's kind of sad is that Dorinda's flashes of fury ironically indicate that this is a woman with a quick, bright mind.  Alas, acuity used to hurt others aint worth a plug nickel! ☹️

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17 minutes ago, TzuShih said:

Yes!  That was the first indication that something was "off" with Dorinda.  I did not 'get it' then, and I STILL don't know what that 'from-left-field' fury was all about.

What's kind of sad is that Dorinda's flashes of fury ironically indicate that this is a woman with a quick, bright mind.  Alas, acuity used to hurt others aint worth a plug nickel! ☹️

And in the case of Heather, Like with Luanne, she seemed to think by doing something for Heather (allowing her the use of her pool in the Berkshires), that she was free to abuse Heather.  Besides her ridiculous freak out on Heather, I remember the scene, because I adored Heather’s dress in those scenes.   But, again, she went way off the rails on Heather.   She’s done it every season, it’s just that number of times she did it increased with each season.

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1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Look, I don't know that there's an expiration date on grieving a spouse, so I'm not going to fault her much for that.  There is however, an expiration on being a shitty person.  Dorinda is a shitty human being, and I don't think that Richard Medley should be held responsible for that.

Of course there is no expiration date on grieving the loss of a spouse.  My father died when I was six...over 30 years ago.  My mom still grieves him; however she had way to many responsibilities to wallow in her grief for very long.  She also never used it to “one-up” other people.
 

A divorce can be a terrible thing.  Ramona was married to Mario for many more years than Dorinda was to Richard; however Dorinda would have Ramona’s head off Had she tried to compare the two losses (personally, I think the losses are both pretty teagic). I, can say honestly, that for all of her warts, Ramona has done a pretty damn good job of keeping her head up.  

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I’m not convinced Dorinda and Richard were necessarily happy just because she paints that picture. I think she loved the lifestyle but who knows what really went on behind closed doors. She says they were but I have to wonder had he not been diagnosed with cancer would they have been together. He may have been talking about divorce before the diagnosis for all I know. Of course, I’m just way out here speculating but it’s crossed my mind with how much she romanticizes it. 
When she started on the show she was my favorite, nice, classy, likeable etc and it would have been closer to when he actually died and she wasn’t acting like a straight up bitch. Why now? 
I think it’s jealousy and bitterness over not having her lifestyle anymore than it is her love for her dead husband. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m not convinced Dorinda and Richard were necessarily happy just because she paints that picture. I think she loved the lifestyle but who knows what really went on behind closed doors. She says they were but I have to wonder had he not been diagnosed with cancer would they have been together. He may have been talking about divorce before the diagnosis for all I know. Of course, I’m just way out here speculating but it’s crossed my mind with how much she romanticizes it. 
When she started on the show she was my favorite, nice, classy, likeable etc and it would have been closer to when he actually died and she wasn’t acting like a straight up bitch. Why now? 
I think it’s jealousy and bitterness over not having her lifestyle anymore than it is her love for her dead husband. 

 

I’m with you 100% on this. I, too, wondered about if they would still be together today, and she does seem to really romanticize it.

She was definitely my favorite when she first came on the show, but that ship sailed a few seasons ago.

 

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47 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m not convinced Dorinda and Richard were necessarily happy just because she paints that picture. I think she loved the lifestyle but who knows what really went on behind closed doors. She says they were but I have to wonder had he not been diagnosed with cancer would they have been together. He may have been talking about divorce before the diagnosis for all I know. Of course, I’m just way out here speculating but it’s crossed my mind with how much she romanticizes it. 
When she started on the show she was my favorite, nice, classy, likeable etc and it would have been closer to when he actually died and she wasn’t acting like a straight up bitch. Why now? 
I think it’s jealousy and bitterness over not having her lifestyle anymore than it is her love for her dead husband. 

 

A flag went up for me during the episode Elyse called Sonja arm candy.  Dorinda said no one should judge what role a person plays in their marriage. She said it firmly and a little defensively.  It made me think her relationship with Richard was not based on "love" alone, even though I really do think she loved him - or maybe it was him AND the life he gave her combined.

Dorinda's story would be sort of interesting, I think.  

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15 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Wow, Bravo even has Dorinda in the newest commercial promoting the September premier of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 

Note its the commerical featuring a remote talking head of 7 regulars  - one from each Housewife franchise. Dorinda represents NYC.

Guess it was filmed pre firing.

A drunken maniac representing New York.  Pathetic.  

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8 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m not convinced Dorinda and Richard were necessarily happy just because she paints that picture. I think she loved the lifestyle but who knows what really went on behind closed doors. She says they were but I have to wonder had he not been diagnosed with cancer would they have been together. He may have been talking about divorce before the diagnosis for all I know. Of course, I’m just way out here speculating but it’s crossed my mind with how much she romanticizes it. 
When she started on the show she was my favorite, nice, classy, likeable etc and it would have been closer to when he actually died and she wasn’t acting like a straight up bitch. Why now? 
I think it’s jealousy and bitterness over not having her lifestyle anymore than it is her love for her dead husband. 

 

Richard died of liver failure.   Many have speculated that alcohol has always been a factor for Dorinda even prior to Richard’s death.

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9 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m not convinced Dorinda and Richard were necessarily happy just because she paints that picture. I think she loved the lifestyle but who knows what really went on behind closed doors. She says they were but I have to wonder had he not been diagnosed with cancer would they have been together. He may have been talking about divorce before the diagnosis for all I know. Of course, I’m just way out here speculating but it’s crossed my mind with how much she romanticizes it. 
When she started on the show she was my favorite, nice, classy, likeable etc and it would have been closer to when he actually died and she wasn’t acting like a straight up bitch. Why now? 
I think it’s jealousy and bitterness over not having her lifestyle anymore than it is her love for her dead husband. 

 

Exactly.  Loved your whole post.

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16 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I don't know that there's an expiration date on grieving a spouse, so I'm not going to fault her much for that. 

There isn't, but there are ways of dealing with that grief that doesn't lose you a job or friends or connections or what not.  If she can either deal with the substance dependencies OR the loss of Richard, one will lead her to 'fixing' the other.  But to stew in her own miasma isn't going to solve a thing.

@Kiss my mutt, and who knows how much guilt might be in the mix as well?  Whether it was alcohol or not (my late mother's cousin never drank a day in his life, but still died of cirrhosis), we don't really know what that relationship was and what she might be feeling bad about never having resolved.  She needs therapy.  She really does.

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On 8/29/2020 at 9:33 PM, SuprSuprElevated said:

Look, I don't know that there's an expiration date on grieving a spouse, so I'm not going to fault her much for that.  There is however, an expiration on being a shitty person.  Dorinda is a shitty human being, and I don't think that Richard Medley should be held responsible for that.

 

18 hours ago, b2H said:

There isn't, but there are ways of dealing with that grief that doesn't lose you a job or friends or connections or what not.  If she can either deal with the substance dependencies OR the loss of Richard, one will lead her to 'fixing' the other.  But to stew in her own miasma isn't going to solve a thing.

@Kiss my mutt, and who knows how much guilt might be in the mix as well?  Whether it was alcohol or not (my late mother's cousin never drank a day in his life, but still died of cirrhosis), we don't really know what that relationship was and what she might be feeling bad about never having resolved.  She needs therapy.  She really does.

So, I'm no pro either, but from personal experience, one can live a lifetime not grasping that something might be wrong much less change.

Those who are lucky to clue in must then make a conscious decision to get help - which is easier said than done. For some, it is easier and more comfortable to live the life of pain/sadness they've always known because it IS what they know; others can't afford help or don't know where to go to get it; and still others might feel as if they can figure things out on their own without help, etc.

Once a person finally gets to a point of acknowledging the issue and that he/she needs help, it takes another umpteen years to do the work of healing. 

"Healing" is just not a quick and easy thing for some. 

I'm reading a book right now about childhood neglect that has a section on addiction. I think I'm saying this correctly...the author talks about addiction being a survival mechanism. It helps a person keep going. At some point, however, the addiction causes problems and needs to be dealt with. The afflicted person needs to learn to function in the real world and become his/her own person - free to choose and chart his/her own path. 

I don't know for sure, of course, but I wonder if Dorinda is still in survival mode. It seems to go that deep with her.

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13 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorinda’s anger is disturbing. Something triggers her, and suddenly she’s this intense ball of rage. She’s telling you all the reasons you’re a terrible person, sometimes in clever, witty ways. It pours out of her. So this leads me to believe that even when you’re spending time with her, enjoying what you believe to be a pleasant day, and she’s smiling and joking around, she’s actually filing away all these offenses, these negative thoughts and feelings about you, and they’re festering right beneath the surface.

 

It is disturbing and frightening.

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24 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorinda’s anger is disturbing. Something triggers her, and suddenly she’s this intense ball of rage. She’s telling you all the reasons you’re a terrible person, sometimes in clever, witty ways. It pours out of her. So this leads me to believe that even when you’re spending time with her, enjoying what you believe to be a pleasant day, and she’s smiling and joking around, she’s actually filing away all these offenses, these negative thoughts and feelings about you, and they’re festering right beneath the surface.

 

It's her way of controlling the situation and the people around her. If you never know when she is going to suddenly lash out at you, then you're always walking on egg shells around her. Apparently she does have a good relationship with Hannah but I can't imagine it was easy having her as a mother.

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7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I would be curious to see what would happen if Rinna whispered to her, “You’re so angry.” 
 

 

This would definitely be worth popping popcorn for! Watching the 2 of them deflect and spin the conversation in circles could be BravoTv gold. I think Dorinda, with her spittle, wild gesticulations, and lack of ability to hear anyone else or let them talk once she gets started, could win , and we might actually find out the truth about Harry.

 

 

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8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorinda’s anger is disturbing. Something triggers her, and suddenly she’s this intense ball of rage. She’s telling you all the reasons you’re a terrible person, sometimes in clever, witty ways. It pours out of her. So this leads me to believe that even when you’re spending time with her, enjoying what you believe to be a pleasant day, and she’s smiling and joking around, she’s actually filing away all these offenses, these negative thoughts and feelings about you, and they’re festering right beneath the surface.

 

You hit a home run with this. Production has known this also for some time. Usually all of this starts at dinner with Dorinda, the dinner with Heather, the dinner with Sonja, the dinner with Bethenny, the dinner with Luann, the dinner with Ramona.  She is sitting quietly and all of a sudden the camera focuses on her face and you can see that she is ready to explode. And then she does. 

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9 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

It is disturbing and frightening.

Yes.  I watched seasons 1 to 10 on Hulu.  She was nice and quiet and enjoyable in the beginning.  Then she did a 180.  I think it was jealously of the others.  She wasn’t satisfied with John, and no other man on the horizon.  

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Something I found interesting:

After the No Phones At The Breakfast Table meltdown in Mexico, Ramona says to Sonja, "I've known Dorinda for years. She would sometimes snap like this (snaps her fingers), but it would be over in a minute. Now, she snaps and it goes on for 20 minutes." So, it seems she has a history of being volatile, but it's gotten much worse.

I wonder how many times the words "There she goes again" have been spoken in reference to Dorinda and her outbursts (other than by us 😉).

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18 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Something I found interesting:

After the No Phones At The Breakfast Table meltdown in Mexico, Ramona says to Sonja, "I've known Dorinda for years. She would sometimes snap like this (snaps her fingers), but it would be over in a minute. Now, she snaps and it goes on for 20 minutes." So, it seems she has a history of being volatile, but it's gotten much worse.

I wonder how many times the words "There she goes again" have been spoken in reference to Dorinda and her outbursts (other than by us 😉).

For all we know, she may have been disliked by Richard’s friends also.  I’m also sure her mother and sister know she’s got that temper, but nobody says anything to set her off.  Now, after all this shakeup, she’s back with John as he’s the only one who who takes her madness.

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5 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Yes.  I watched seasons 1 to 10 on Hulu.  She was nice and quiet and enjoyable in the beginning.  Then she did a 180.  I think it was jealously of the others.  She wasn’t satisfied with John, and no other man on the horizon.  

Isn't it great being able to watch all these seasons with no commercials? I'm binging all the seasons too, and started over with season 1 yesterday. I was shocked when I saw ole Tom at a bar where Ramona was hanging out with a couple of her "closest" gal pals. After 10 years, he's still a douche bag.

I've been reading on Twitter that it's a possibility that Dorinda may be back next season. Producers have said the door is open. That should prove interesting.

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4 hours ago, Sharonana said:

I was shocked when I saw ole Tom at a bar where Ramona was hanging out with a couple of her "closest" gal pals. After 10 years, he's still a douche bag.

Oh, you just made me realize that we haven’t seen Ramona’s gorgeous friend Joanie in a while.

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On 8/26/2020 at 5:06 PM, janiema said:

I do think that Leah cheapens the vibe but I am older. I agree with the many posters who say that they are glad that we see our own demographic on this show. So many shows - including the 24 hour news programs - seem to mostly feature young blonds. Maybe Bravo could start a younger version of the show with a younger cast. Every so often the two casts could come together for a shared event . Since they already have production in NYC they could easily film alternating series, 5 or 6 months on one and then 5 or 6 months on the other.

It was the right move to let Dorinda go. She had become way too nasty and volatile. Her old friend, Ramona, has spent this whole season trying to figure out why.

 

On 8/27/2020 at 3:35 PM, chlban said:

I didn't find Tinsley all that interesting either, but she was sweet and likeable. Leah is boring and not the slightest bit likeable.

I actually really like Leah on the show - except when she gets out-of-control drunk.  It's not fun in the same way Dorinda's outbursts are not fun.  I like that she laughs alot and seems to really enjoy the other women not only inspite of the age difference but because of the age difference.  I think she learns a bit from them, and they learn a bit from her, and she has bridged the age gap really well.  Having said this, I don't like her in the media outside the show. This might be harsh, but she doesn't offer much that's new, interesting, or inspiring - at least not enough for me to tune into her social media accounts and interviews.

I'm probably a voice of one, but I like a mixture of ages.  I'd really like to see Ramona, Luanne, and Sonja return but introduce 1 or 2 more younger women with interesting careers that reflect NYC, e.g. Wall Street, museums, or maybe even a female ferry captain or something...I dunno.  Just something interesting and unique.  I really like Tinsley and don't think we saw all that's there because of Dorinda. If they bring in younger more diverse women, I would like to have seen Tinsley in the mix.  She's a throw-back to the socialite days and it would be interesting to see them all together. 

Random question.....I wonder if Bravo had/would have problems casting given Dorinda's level of "mean".  I've read that it's been a challenge for them to get rich women who want to be on the show because of the stigma.  Toss Dorinda in the mix and it seems as if it might be even harder. 

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18 hours ago, Sharonana said:

Isn't it great being able to watch all these seasons with no commercials? I'm binging all the seasons too, and started over with season 1 yesterday. I was shocked when I saw ole Tom at a bar where Ramona was hanging out with a couple of her "closest" gal pals. After 10 years, he's still a douche bag.

I've been reading on Twitter that it's a possibility that Dorinda may be back next season. Producers have said the door is open. That should prove interesting.

It is great, I love Hulu.  I’ve been watching for weeks now.  Although a lot of people don’t like a Bethenny, she brought a lot to the show.  She did cry a lot tho, lol.  Maybe Bravo is giving Dorinda a chance to sober up, then bring her back.  I really don’t blame everything on alcohol.  I think that’s just her in general.  One thing I noticed, LuAnn really made a fool out of herself with Tom.  She was all over him every minute.

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On 8/31/2020 at 8:13 AM, 65mickey said:

Dorinda’s anger is disturbing. Something triggers her, and suddenly she’s this intense ball of rage. She’s telling you all the reasons you’re a terrible person, sometimes in clever, witty ways. It pours out of her. So this leads me to believe that even when you’re spending time with her, enjoying what you believe to be a pleasant day, and she’s smiling and joking around, she’s actually filing away all these offenses, these negative thoughts and feelings about you, and they’re festering right beneath the surface.

In one of her talking heads seasons ago, she says she listens and observes and stores bad behavior of them in her head.  Then when the mood strikes her, she’ll attack.  Who in their right mind would be friends with a person like that?  I won’t miss her, but I will miss BSM and all the weird stuff in her house.  I miss Sonja’s townhouse too.  I also liked LuAnns house on the Hudson River.   Sorry, this was @Hoodoozenadooze’s post up there.

 

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On 8/30/2020 at 7:41 AM, AttackTurtle said:

Richard died of liver failure.   Many have speculated that alcohol has always been a factor for Dorinda even prior to Richard’s death.

Yep. I've read they partied a lot. 

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