S04.E12: Bermuda Views and Bathtub Blues

[TexasGal]

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Whitney and Lisa avoid each other until Heather's comments send dinner into chaos; after not getting a room with a bathtub, Meredith goes from a little under the weather to severely ill, but recovers in time to hold the ladies accountable.

Airdate: 12.05.2023

[Straycat80]

Meredith pulling a Countess Luann bitching about not liking her room. No bathtub! The horror! 

[Baltimore Betty]

What is on Angie K.'s forehead and why? Like nothing is going to make those sunglasses look better no matter how many doodads she sticks on her forehead.

Is Meredith suffering from Lackoftub?  Do you have to take to your bed if you don't have a tub? Is there a support group or a drug that has commercials on TV with people dancing about the miracles of a Lackoftub cure in a bottle?

 

 

[Chicklet]

They can rotate the scenery all they want but everything else stays the same. 

I do like the house and the lunch looked yummy. 

[SweetieDarling]

Is it wrong that I was hoping to see Meredith being wheeled out to an ambulance with a blanket covering her à la Vicki Gunvalson (OC)

Edited December 6, 2023 by SweetieDarling

[Baltimore Betty]

Why are they having that rum tasting on a random part of the beach, no chairs?  Why not on the deck or in the house? Also I thought a rum tasting would be just rum, not a cocktail with rum in it.

Oh great, a Sprinter van.

Meredith on her deathbed, her last word is not Rosebud but Bath Tub.

Drink every time you hear the word "Bath tub."

Edited December 6, 2023 by Baltimore Betty

[bosawks]

C’mon Lisa, there’s no way Jesus Christ walking across the water would have an influence on you….

[Baltimore Betty]

Angie K.'s circus themed coffin lining dress is terrible.

Meredith is wearing a suit to dinner, in Bermuda...will she be having a meeting or something?

Damn, Whitney has hurt fillings and we have to hear about it, again.

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, bosawks said:

C’mon Lisa, there’s no way Jesus Christ walking across the water would have an influence on you….

Only if she could touch it.

Is there any way all the women with bathtubs could take a bath at the same time and we could see Meredith knocking on doors and hear "I'm in the bathtub," from everybody in every room?

[Straycat80]

Meredith takes the prize for asshole of the group this episode. She’s acting like she’s dying as she’s  getting made up by her glam squad. Pleeze! And suddenly she’s well enough to go out to dinner. 
And then we have to listen to her bitching about the bathtub and once again Whitney expects Lisa to coddle her because her friend died. 

[Straycat80]

The conversation at dinner was weird. Whitney acted like her and Lisa were lovers or something by saying she wanted Lisa to love and comfort her. Heather was right on in her TH about that.

Is wearing giant sunglasses that take up most of your face a thing now? 
That house looks amazing and I hope we get more scenery porn of Bermuda, it looks like a beautiful place. 

[bosawks]

I feel like Justin will be the most sympathetic towards Lisa when viewing this episode……..

[Baltimore Betty]

To Meredith a gift of a room with a tub is akin to Vicki getting a casserole.

[SweetieDarling]

59 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

What is on Angie K.'s forehead and why? Like nothing is going to make those sunglasses look better no matter how many doodads she sticks on her forehead

What was her explanation? She was covering a pimple? Why it took 3, I don't know.. Maybe the pimple was off center so 1 jewel looked stupid. Or it could be she got a bit carried away with her bedazzler, as one does.

If she were really Greek, she would know to put Windex on a pimple 😉

[goofygirl]

I don't know about Meredith and that dang bathtub!  Instead of old Gunvalson, I was getting Ramona Singer (I get the best room, always!) vibe.  Tomato, tomahto, I guess.

Otherwise, wasn't it hilarious that the waiter had on BERMUDA shorts? I laughed and laughed.  Guess it's a thing there for guys to wear bermuda shorts.

I actually had a bunch of sympathy for the poor Sprinter driver.  I wonder if all the people that work to make these trips memorable must feel the same way.

Crazy bitches!!

[Pi237]

46 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

 

Is wearing giant sunglasses that take up most of your face a thing now? 

They all looked like they just got their eyes dilated.

45 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I feel like Justin will be the most sympathetic towards Lisa when viewing this episode……..

I give him credit for not asking Whitney, 'how soon are you leaving?' With a huge smile on his face.  He's loving this break from her, no doubt.

[Pi237]

 

Here we go again, Meredith using someone else to give life to rumors that started with her, but acting like she's clueless. 

[QQQQ]

I'm waiting for Mary to show up ala Jill Zarin.

[Marley]

Meredith is so ridiculous. Such an attention seeker. Just shut up. Monica sucking up blech.

Whitney really thinks she’s something special. She thinks she makes ppl better? Like get a grip lady.

Heather does crack me up at times.

I love how they were all just ignoring Meredith’s dramatics. Everyone just knows she’s insane lol.

I really dislike Whitney and her shittily blended makeup. Chick is delusional.

Meredith is def that ig account lol. Not saying Angie and Shawn aren’t shady who knows but she’s doing her usual get someone to do her dirty work then play dumb thing. Can’t she be a little more clever about it lol she’s so obvious.

[Steph J]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Oh great, a Sprinter van.

I swear, if I ever see a sprinter van in real life, I'm running in the opposite direction. After so many seasons of Housewife shows, that location is the equivalent of something out of a horror movie to me now.

[JenE4]

I could barely pay attention to what anyone was saying with those windshield sunglasses. Then they’d pan someone else, and the glasses got bigger, flatter, and uglier. Then they’d show a flashback or cut scene, and there’d be more pairs of these sunglasses! I might not be up on my fashion—and I presume these are various high-end designers—but I almost feel like someone is trolling the bougie ladies of Salt Lake City. I don’t see anyone else walking around with goggles on their face. It’s like they said let’s take our ski look and make it summer. God damned it, it’s that Brooks Marks, isn’t it? Ever since his episode driving with ski goggles on. Then Angie wore those pink windshield glasses so many times the rest finally broke down and bought out every pair of windshield glasses ever made. Whelp, I’m going to shut up now because I’m starting to sound like Meredith going on about bathtubs.

i will bet my life on Meredith sending the documents about Angie to Monica. She got the idea for the “finsta” account from the other Angie last year. And we also know from last year that she was looking up all of the legal documents about Lisa’s business and telling everyone about it. No one else is smart enough to figure out how to find all of this information. And if it was just some rando from town, why would they send this to a new cast member instead of just sending it to the media or just posting on Reddit or something. A rando wouldn’t care about making good TV drama. That being said, they do seem to have a lot of money for just owning one local hair salon. It’s believable, especially since narcissistic criminals are drawn to Bravo. They all can’t seem to wait to flaunt their wealth and haven’t caught on that this is how they ultimately get caught by bringing attention to themselves and the math not mathing on their lifestyle.

Edited December 6, 2023 by JenE4

[swankie]

Merideth bitching about not having a bathtub is worse than Lisa bitching about losing her ring.  Good Lord!!!  Give it a rest!  You're acting like a spoiled child.  I'm sure you have a shower.  Use it!!! Daaaaamn!!! 

[princelina]

2 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Otherwise, wasn't it hilarious that the waiter had on BERMUDA shorts? I laughed and laughed.  Guess it's a thing there for guys to wear bermuda shorts.

It certainly is!  When I was there they were all over the place in them, with jackets and ties.

39 minutes ago, Marley said:

Meredith is def that ig account lol. Not saying Angie and Shawn aren’t shady who knows but she’s doing her usual get someone to do her dirty work then play dumb thing. Can’t she be a little more clever about it lol she’s so obvious.

This is the least clever housewife group in the franchise.  It's like Heather asking Lisa who she'd throw off the wagon and then being shocked - SHOCKED! - when Monica got hurt feelings.  Or Heather telling Lisa that Whitney called her self-absorbed and then being shocked - SHOCKED! - that Whitney would accuse her of trying to make Lisa mad at her.  At least now we know how Meredith could RUIN Angie - by convincing Monica that Angie is in the "Greek mafia" that apparently runs Park City 🤣🤣🤣

30 minutes ago, Steph J said:

I swear, if I ever see a sprinter van in real life, I'm running in the opposite direction. After so many seasons of Housewife shows, that location is the equivalent of something out of a horror movie to me now.

Seriously?  If I ever see one I will follow it immediately!  Don't worry - I'll report back here 😃

[mbaywife123]

Love that everyone is paying Meredith dust, including her own son who couldn’tbe bothered to get off of his phone or using his face roller to help her pack her bags based on the weather in Bermuda.

Also loved that the ladies didn’t give into her room/bathtub meltdown nonsense.

I think Monica is playing this well, she is playing nice with Meredith all the while knowing Meredith is most likely behind the text/email crap. She knows to keep your “friends” close but your enemies closer and allowing Meredith to expose herself for the snake that she is.

[dancingdreamer]

Meredith,  taking  xanax,  maybe two, and drinking,  is stupid and will make you ill. Welcome  to Bermuda,  where you were cold! 

Poor Jonathan  , the driver  of the sprinter  van, his face was priceless. I would  of told Meredith,  I'm not giving  up my room, but take a bath. Compromise  is not a word any of them know. It might have shut her up.

She's  setting  Monica  up with those dms, and Monica  was doing  much better. Angie's voice grates on me, so does Lisa's.

Whitney needing Lisa to know, yet again, her feelings  were hurt, please! What a horrible  meal, in another  beautiful  spot.

 

[Chatty Cake]

When I’m sick with the chills I don’t feel like soaking in a tub. That said, someone could have offered Meredith the use of their tub. The bigger issue is why do the housewives often seem to rent a place with several lovely rooms and one crappy room?

[Chatty Cake]

Whitney is awful. The family of the lady that passed can’t be happy about her using her late friend to act like an asshole. Also sorry, that  huge tattoo on her side is ugly. 
Monica is going for round two of bringing an Angie rumor up on camera and blaming it on Meredith. What are the chances of a woman having a husband that is secretly gay and her family is ensconced in the Greek mafia?

[Baltimore Betty]

10 hours ago, Pi237 said:

 

Here we go again, Meredith using someone else to give life to rumors that started with her, but acting like she's clueless. 

Oh no not the vroumors.

[janiema]

Is another cast member supposed to give up her view so Meredith can have a bath tub?

Meredith spent time in the afternoon on an IV drip and then pours herself a glass of wine in the evening.

The split back coat that Meredith was wearing. Isn’t that what they do to clothing to be able to dress cadavers for viewing?

This episode was a total fail for Meredith.

[sugarbaker design]

12 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Damn, Whitney has hurt fillings and we have to hear about it, again.

Whitney is perpetually aggrieved, she's exhausting.

12 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Whitney acted like her and Lisa were lovers or something by saying she wanted Lisa to love and comfort her. Heather was right on in her TH about that.

Exhausting.

10 hours ago, Marley said:

Whitney really thinks she’s something special. She thinks she makes ppl better? Like get a grip lady.

Delusional.

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Whitney is awful. The family of the lady that passed can’t be happy about her using her late friend to act like an asshole.

She's the worst.

 

[snarts]

13 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

The conversation at dinner was weird. Whitney acted like her and Lisa were lovers or something by saying she wanted Lisa to love and comfort her. Heather was right on in her TH about that.

Agree, yet Heather herself was acting like a jealous jilted lover. She really doesn't want Whitney to have any other friends. Have we looked into how Whit's friend died? (I kid, I kid)

Speaking of covering a zit, what was up with Whit's chin/jaw at dinner? Either she was trying to cover a crater, or she really didn't blend in her contour.

Meredith's dramatics continue to escalate. I love that in a 6 or 7 bed house, she's in the only one without a bathtub. 

Boy, Monica sure took that bait on the Angie rumor hook, line & sinker. From the previews, she'll run with anything if it puts at the center of attention.

Mary, Mary, why ya missin'??

Edited December 6, 2023 by snarts

[Dirtybubble]

The thing with Meredith and her bathtub is just so damn insane you have to laugh at it.  Between that and the IV drip in bed--it's just insane.  SL is starting to become a parody of HW shows and I'm not made about it.  

[pasdetrois]

10 hours ago, JenE4 said:

narcissistic criminals are drawn to Bravo.

Such truth to this. Bravo's Housewives casting ad: "Must love to flaunt ill-gotten gains."

ETA: "CAUTION: Said flaunting may end you up in the slammer."

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by pasdetrois

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Meredith's dramatics continue to escalate. I love that in a 6 or 7 bed house, she's in the only one without a bathtub. 

I swear production worked overtime putting the "no tub in one of the rooms,"  in the filter for Airbnb or Vrbo!

See Meredith sat there in her talking head spouting off about the other women running to claim their room thinking it was silly to do but if you do not participate you cannot complain. You get what you get. No tub for you!

Whitney should be voted off of everyone's wagon and out of the house.

[Arynm]

Meredith was quite the drama queen this week with the taking to her bed and the IV and the haranguing about the tub to everyone else.

She is also stirring the pot with the Angie rumors and making the new girl do the dirty work so Meredith doesn't get her hands dirty. Monica hasn't learned yet that Meredith will let her hang in the wind after these rumors get out and Monica gets the heat from the other ladies. That's why Meredith acted like she was so bored by the discussion and the denial about getting the DM's at all. She was the one who called Monica and told her to look in her DM's.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Arynm

[Rlb8031]

Meredith has perfected "HW 101 -How to start a rumor". You call someone off camera, tell them the dirt, point them in the direction of on-line gossip (most likely sourced from you) and then explain to your victim/accomplice that they need to bring it out on the show to "support/protect/defend their friend". Then while the cameras are rolling, you sit idly by checking your manicure and drinking your tequila/vodka/rum and pretending like you've never heard of any of this. Once the rumor is out there, you make constant mention of it on camera and use it to isolate/attack/disparage your castmate. 

Then you retire to your room for a lovely bath...

Edited December 6, 2023 by Rlb8031

[pasdetrois]

They all understand the process. They dutifully go through the motions of plant/discover/surprise/outrage/confrontation for camera time.

It's laughable that Bravo even bothers with new locations, because the housewives don't do anything more than wait for a producer's cue, find their mark, and open their mouths. I guess the locations appreciate the free publicity in exchange for providing a production "set."

It's annoying and boring. Bravo is too stupid and jaded to do something more clever and interesting.

[MaggieG]

2 hours ago, Arynm said:

Meredith was quite the drama queen this week with the taking to her bed and the IV and the haranguing about the tub to everyone else.

She is also stirring the pot with the Angie rumors and making the new girl do the dirty work so Meredith doesn't get her hands dirty. Monica hasn't learned yet that Meredith will let her hang in the wind after these rumors get out and Monica gets the heat from the other ladies. That's why Meredith acted like she was so bored by the discussion and the denial about getting the DM's at all. She was the one who called Monica and told her to look in her DM's.

I laughed when she said she was so behind on all her DM's.

[J80134]

Whoa is Meredith! Shafted on a tub room and left with no place to remind her of Seth's taint. 

The Utah chapter of the Greek Mafia won't be happy about this storyline! 🙄🤣

Whit won't let the death of her best friend get in the way of a petty "you didn't love and support me enough" grab at camera time. 

If the intent of Heather's fresh vacay botox was slanted brows...job well done👹

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

It's annoying and boring. Bravo is too stupid and jaded to do something more clever and interesting.

Like what, a cage match?

[TattleTeeny]

Meredith is a pain in the ass, but if I had a bathtub that I didn't care about while knowing that someone who does care didn't have one, I would just let them have it. It's pretty obnoxious and petty that all but one room have bathtubs and hers is the one that doesn't. IMO, she is not the asshole in this bathtub thing (though she would be an asshole in a bathtub, if she had one).

Edited December 6, 2023 by TattleTeeny

[heatherchandler]

21 hours ago, Chicklet said:

They can rotate the scenery all they want but everything else stays the same. 

I do like the house and the lunch looked yummy. 

The SAME!  Over and over and over!

That’s funny I thought the lunch looked like crap, my work gives better presentations.  Cranberry on the sandwich sounds good though.

 

16 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Meredith,  taking  xanax,  maybe two, and drinking,  is stupid and will make you ill. Welcome  to Bermuda,  where you were cold! 

 

 

I’m going to say it, I think Meredith is struggling with a drug problem.  I’ve seen benzo overdoses and she seems to fit.  Maybe a painkiller in there too?  Her eyes gave that away.  The slurred speech is screaming pill problem.

[wallies]

Forgive me for this, but - I'm close to Angie's age and like getting zits. Tells me my hormones haven't quit yet. They're only temporary and way better than wrinkles!

[SemiCharmedLife]

Heather knew exactly what she was doing when she gave Lisa all that info about Whitney.  Heather wants to be Lisa's bestie, (why? impossible to know!) and she was trying to stir something up between the two.  Or, should I say, "fan the flames," since Whitney and Lisa were already at odds.  Well, mission accomplished, Heather.  Hopefully you are happy with the result!

ps. can't ANYONE get along in this show???

[Stats Queen]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Like what, a cage match?

If only - that would be awesome 

[heatherchandler]

18 hours ago, wallies said:

Forgive me for this, but - I'm close to Angie's age and like getting zits. Tells me my hormones haven't quit yet. They're only temporary and way better than wrinkles!

I’m close to her age too, I think, but I don’t like getting zits!  It’s humiliating.  Once I realized that I break out when I eat too much sugar, tomatoes or oranges, I have not really had any breakouts.  But when I do I use the stickers, like Angie!  They work!  But I wouldn’t wear them in public 🤣

 

Ok so I found this picture of Whitney and Justin, or “J” as Whitney now calls him, for some reason 🙄  I guess because he’s so HIP and COOL now with his Gucci T-shirt and little fendi beanie.  

Is Whitney behind his pathetic new look?

Anyway- they both looked very different back then!  She just looks so young.

[Natalie68]

On 12/5/2023 at 5:46 PM, Straycat80 said:

Meredith takes the prize for asshole of the group this episode. She’s acting like she’s dying as she’s  getting made up by her glam squad. Pleeze! And suddenly she’s well enough to go out to dinner. 
And then we have to listen to her bitching about the bathtub and once again Whitney expects Lisa to coddle her because her friend died. 

It made me think she was having withdrawals from something not allowed internationally.  It looked like the dude was putting makeup on a cadaver.

[Pi237]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

It made me think she was having withdrawals from something not allowed internationally.  It looked like the dude was putting makeup on a cadaver.

Yep, she's definitely on downers (or booze.) She was always a little mush mouthed, but now she's slurry all the time, and could barely keep her eyes open at and after dinner. No one who's that sick slams wine unless the alcohol is to rally from withdrawal. 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Pi237

[heatherchandler]

2 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Yep, she's definitely on downers (or booze.) She was always a little mush mouthed, but now she's slurry all the time, and could barely keep her eyes open at and after dinner. No one who's that sick slams wine unless the alcohol is to rally from withdrawal. 

Her slurring and her eyes at the end of the night told me a lot.  

And you’re so right, sick people don’t pound wine.  

[Baltimore Betty]

Meredith is nearly catatonic and wants to take a bath...seems like the others did her a favor, no bath and no chance of falling asleep in the tub full of water.

 

[ichbin]

On 12/5/2023 at 11:28 PM, swankie said:

Merideth bitching about not having a bathtub is worse than Lisa bitching about losing her ring.  Good Lord!!!  Give it a rest! 

Oooh, oooh, can I play too?

How about Angie again letting us know she's Greek...enough already! This week she was packing a Greek flag bikini and talking about representing. 

Edited December 8, 2023 by ichbin