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A little rich for Rinna to say Sutton is like a beautiful table in a yard full of mud, innit?

I have to admit, I’ve only been following this season on and off, and each time I saw the name Sheree (before seeing this Sheree), I thought Garcelle’s Sheree was She-by-Sheree Sheree 🤣

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Everyone is mistaking what Erika was doing to Jax and why she told him to GTFO. Oliver had turned her down and then Jax came closer to grab the flowers. Erika was flirting with Jax and telling him to get away because she thought of him as another piece of meat to flirt with. She even says something to Dorit to that effect. She drunken jokingly was telling him to get away because she was "dangerously horny" at the moment and he was a cutie just like his brother. I believe it is on the longer 7 min clip that was released before the episode aired, where you can hear what she says to Dorit after she yells to GTFO a few times. 

I just watched it again. Her exact words are. "Get the F#*$ out of here before you get in trouble".

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21 minutes ago, dmeets said:

Sutton is WAY too forgiving of Kyle, but I guess it helps when, unlike with Crystal,  the rest of the cast isn’t drilling into her head what an awful person she is and pointing out how every non-Crystal incident has Kyle attacking Sutton. Now even physically attacking her as well. At first I thought Kyle was just hammered, but she recalled perfectly that she put it out there that we only have Sutton’s word that she suffered from miscarriages. I mean, Kyle was her landlord! How could Sutton have never mentioned that when giving her the rent check?

It’s very sad, but at this point, Sutton is so desperate to be liked by all of the women, there’s no chance in hell she’d hold a grudge - while knowing full well that a WHOPPING grudge is perfectly justified.  

I don’t know if she went into this with a shaky sense of self (divorce is always a potential “shaker”), or if being thrown into this group of clowns has her feeling “less than”, (which should really be a badge of honor) but she doesn’t belong in such a setting.   I feel like she’s a human punching bag right now, and it’s tough to watch.  

No amount of “how dare you”s and “shame on you”s will change the way they’re treating her.  They smell fear.  Run, Sutton.  Not a worthy hill on which to die!

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On 7/5/2022 at 12:00 PM, CallmeCray said:

This is the lowest low I’ve seen yet.

I have never in my lifetime used the word "appalled".  Ever. 

Thanks, Kyle, Erika, Diana, and Rinna for giving me a reason. 

I'm just sickened by the hypocrisy and outlandish defensiveness of people's behaviour this season. 

Not a fan of Stranger Things but this is the epitome of the Upside Down.

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36 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

A little rich for Rinna to say Sutton is like a beautiful table in a yard full of mud, innit?

I have to admit, I’ve only been following this season on and off, and each time I saw the name Sheree (before seeing this Sheree), I thought Garcelle’s Sheree was She-by-Sheree Sheree 🤣

I just now saw this part, and that comparison is DISGUSTING.  I can’t believe I was ever deceived into thinking the two of them were actually friends.  

She needs some horns to match those hideous, inflamed hooves. What a slimy, slithery creature she is…

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1 hour ago, dmeets said:

So far I’m liking Sheree, curious if she’ll form any friendships with the others.

Me too.  She's gorgeous and stylish.  She's Will Smith's ex-wife right?  Kinda fascinating.

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I didn't take that explanation as an excuse for Erika.  I mean that's just downright nasty and perverted.  Either way, she was 100% in the wrong for her behaviour.

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For the record, I think Erika said, “Get the f- - - out of here,” not “F- - - off,” which, in my opinion, is worse.

I think MoosMom22’s theory could be correct. I didn’t hear the other stuff, but I heard Erika say something along the lines of, “What are you doing with her?” “I swear to God, these ladies escorting these kids…” She was referring to Crystal and Jax. It seemed Erika was envious that Jax let Crystal guide him away.

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9 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

How can Rinna walk in those monstrosities Versaces, period? I can’t get over the sunglasses, either. Did she time-travel back to 1975 and raid Elton John’s wardrobe?

When I saw those shoes (and the outfit), I thought Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.

Speaking of outfits, I am sorry but Sutton looked terrible, that dress was not cut for her at all, she has an unfortunate figure but I am surprised she looked at herself from all angles and thought, "yeah, I'll wear this one."   To be fair I also hated Garcelle's king size bed sheet ensemble she wore to her party...I think she is using one specific designer to show the world the clothes they make, they all seem to be ill fitting with large, puffy off the shoulder sleeves in plain fabrics...she looks better in structured clothing, not even the right underpinnings can help those dresses, she looks heavier in the blousiness of those dresses.

Sutton having enough furs to go around was impressive, Dorit zero'd in on the YSL fur and Erika (who was still sober at that point), chimes in with "I have one," that would have sent Diana over the edge, it was such an obvious one upper move.

Why, if knowing the backyard was a mushy wet mess and the weather was cold Sutton did not move that party inside or move the table to the brick patio?  Also, Sheree asking if that little salad with the three shrimp on it was all they were having was hilarious. Sutton saying she has bread on the table made me laugh, like some of those women would eat bread, HAH!  

Kyle has fallen to the bottom of my list of HW's I'd hang with IRL.  Why is she going in so hard on Sutton about her lying about miscarriages but believes hook, line and sinker Erika's stories about Tom's break in, her son rolling his car 2,5, 8 times, all the stories about the money and law suits but she cannot wrap her pea size brain around Sutton having a miscarriage 20 some years ago.  Kyle has changed a lot, no longer the voice of reason and compassionate, she is short tempered and nasty with Mauricio for just the littlest thing, she is nasty with the women too, especially Sutton, it may be conjecture but it makes me think that there might be a little discourse at home with the Mo...rumors have been swirling for years and I bet Sutton knows something.  He is after all getting his own show, isn't that the HW way, the hubs gets the wife on TV for a job and a paycheck then they divorce, Kyle might be doing a reverse Grammer, lol.

So Kyle and Sutton meet for lunch, I recognized that restaurant from some event they filmed for the show years ago and Kyle looked downstairs and saw Kim and Kathy having dinner, am I remembering that correctly? It was the one where Camille asked Kyle to be a bridesmaid in her wedding, right? Anyway, Sutton's lunch looked terrible, a plate of bland looking mush was supposed to be gnocchi? Ick. 

Rinna is a piece of work, going right in on the souless and MFer comments which were completely out of context (but true), but Rinna does not care.  The retelling of stories from last episode to this one have been all taken out of context, Diana is a shit stirrer and a bad one at that, doubling down with Rinna is not a good idea, Rinna will throw her under the first bus that comes along Diana will be eating crow.

I hope this is the one and only season we see Diana on our screen, there is nothing there that is enviable in her life.  Also, her multi million dollar house on this episode looks like some comic book whilian's (lol), lair.  Diana's fortress of evil sort of house and we could see the cars whizzing by thru the trees, like 15 mil does not buy you property away from a busy road? HAH!  

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I thought the beginning scene with Sutton, Diana and Kyle was some of the worst over acted bullshit I’ve seen.   The you need a new villain line was exactly that. A rehearsed line. I will say Sutton did look truly rattled and she should have gone off on Kyle for grabbing her. Why was Kyle there anyway? Not enough attention from her cringeworthy splits.

Onto Erika. What a sloppy drunk mess. The way she hit on Oliver and wouldn’t let it go was gross.  I thought he handled it okay and was glad Garcelle insisted they leave. 
I don’t care that she was joking, horny, high or drunk. You don’t speak to a kid the way she spoke to Jax. He obviously had no idea what was going on.

BOO!  Rinnas back. I didn’t miss her. Also sick of hearing about birds in regard to Lois.


The Fake Four, Kyle, Mo, Dorit and PK think they are so entertaining when they are together but they are not. Kyle basically saying they are glad Erika was having fun and not wallowing in her corruption was crazy. Glad you’d rather see her drunk, high and verbally abusing kids than feel bad about herself.

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Oh and now Dorit cannot drive a car because of the robbery? She can't even take her kids to the park...when is she ever alone with her kids and no nanny within arms reach, certainly she would have a nanny for an outing to a park because what if one of the kids needed to be pushed on a swing or needed a juice box!

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Lisa offers nothing to this show anymore than her standard line of "I come from a place of love "  or "I'm concerned for you."   That and her forgetting what she says.  Her expiration date for this show has passed.

Kyle I have never really liked and she shows it more and more.  What she did with Sutton was to show Diana she is on her team.  Her apolgies are as fake as her personality.  There was nothing about what Erika did to both of Garcelle's son that was acceptable to give her a pass.

Erika is just a drunken waste.  I find nothing redeeming about her at all. She is a horrible human being like her ex husband.

Diana I find laughable. She is not as big of a baddie she thinks she is.  I can't wait for her to be roasted at the reunion.  At least I hope she is.

What I hope really happens for the next season is that Lisa, Kyle, Erika, and Diana are all Dorinda'd for the show.  You can throw in Dorito too just for being married to PK.

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I remember looking at Vile Kyle during Sutton’s luncheon and thought how her eyes looked dead. She was bored out of her mind. Finally when Rinna began to go after Sutton you could see just a bit of a suppressed smirk cross her mouth. I think she was angry that according to the script she wasn’t the lead actor in that scene. 

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8 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I think that Kyle was wearing those same Versace shoes (in black) during her last visit to WWHL with Andy

Yes I only saw a pic of it from Big Blonde Hair and posted it somewhere on these boards.  They looked liked Herman Munster shoes.

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Bravo will never punish the assholes. Instead they will reward them for improving the ratings.

All the housewives are playing a designated role, including victims Sutton and Garcelle. PK, Dorit, Kyle and Mauricio cheering on Erika's drunken antics is to support Bravo's efforts to keep Erika on the show. No way was that a genuine expression of what they think about her.

Kyle is pushing the boundaries, thinking production will let her do anything she wants. She may be right. It's just another form of rich white lady privilege.

Agree that Erika was telling Jax to leave because he's a temptation. It's notable that Erika feels the compulsion to throw her legs open every time she's drunk.

And on a related note, I don't believe any of them are as drunk as they pretend. It's a one-size-fits-all excuse when they behave badly, then claim amnesia.

Why are Crystal and Sutton on this trash pile of a show? It makes no sense, unless it's boredom.

Garcelle is doing it for the paycheck and an effort to leverage it into other projects, which is apparently working. She knows that as an aging actress her opportunities are limited. I would respect her more if she would keep her underage kids off of the show.

Production set-up forced Sutton to keep the meal outside. Too expensive and no time to move it all inside - probably at least four cameras, all the mics, the lights, etc. Also, they knew the muddy mess would annoy everyone and encourage nastier behavior.

I think Bravo is slowly building an arsenal of housewives (Garcelle, Sutton, possibly Sheree and Crystal) and will point the arsenal at the others. Should be fireworks for at least a few more seasons. But production may manipulate Lisa and Kyle into being targets. Lisa will recognize it; Kyle is too stupid.

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7 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

Garcelle is doing it for the paycheck and an effort to leverage it into other projects, which is apparently working. She knows that as an aging actress her opportunities are limited. I would respect her more if she would keep her underage kids off of the show.

UMM it was a birthday party why would she NOT have her kids there? ALL the other housewives get to have their kids pop in and out and some even tried to leverage that to get their kids opportunity's (rinna and Yolanda  looking at you) they dont have talking heads and every scene they are in its with their mother at her house or her function ...

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I rewatched the episode )I am in a hotel so at least I am not counting in the ratings and I realize that ERIKA understands the inappropriateness of her actions more than Kyle and Dorit (since she gave her a pass).  We truly need this to resonate.

First that Crystal had the convo with her and when Erika shrugged it off set her straight (I think Crystal is really like Sutton and they do and say things that annoy me but are probably nice people) then Erika realized the age and inappropriateness.

Kyle knew all of this and still found it funny - I am not sure how anyone of the Fox Force Five would think its funny unless all they want to do is gloss over anything and everything.

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And considering we know that Rinna does confront Erika on her alcohol and meds issue it disgusts me that Kyle and Dorit think this behavior is funny.  I mean RINNA - that tells you how bad it is!

So in the end I actually have less animosity for Erika - the PERP then Kyle and Dorit and they stoned / pig husbands.  PK should give his CUTW to himself and his friends.

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On 7/4/2022 at 12:33 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Remember when vanderpump alluded to a rumor in the kitchen when her kid was in ear shot and how dare she? Now someone’s kid gets told to their face to fuck off by a housewife and it’s oh hahaha no big deal 

Than you so much for this mention. I was thinking about that very same episode ! I remember when Kyle and Maurico lost their shit when Lisa Vanderpump said something that was not even directed at Portia.  The hypocrisy of these women is astounding.  

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31 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

UMM it was a birthday party why would she NOT have her kids there

Sure, if it was a REAL birthday party. It was a production for Bravo. All of them should be able to bring their children on TV, but the housewives' shows are too nasty for children.

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8 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Erika needs to do more than apologise to Garcelle and her son. I really really want her to explain *why* she said “get the fuck out” to 14 yr old Jax. I need more than just the alcohol excuse. I want to know if she knew who he was, or what she thought he was doing, or what she thought she was doing in that moment. I want the WHY! 

Kyle hasn’t been apologising, she’s been defending. Two very different things. Has Kyle addressed the way she manhandled Sutton?

Diana completely misrepresented Sutton’s rationale, and her tone of voice, when recounting to Rinna what Sutton said about her two miscarriages. I hope they show those two clips side by side at the reunion… but I’m not going to hold my breath.

Erika claimed it was because she thought Jax was 16 and she was treating him like an adult.  First, perceiving a black child as older than they actually are is a micro aggression. Second, it still would have been inappropriate if he were 16 or 30 or 60.  It was rude and not even remotely funny. 

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On 7/5/2022 at 9:20 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I am surprised that Erika would open a mouth like that to a kid seeing how she eviscerated Ilene seasons ago when they were having a casual, harmless dinner time chat about Erika's adult, police officer son...it was the sneer seen around the world followed by insane threats and tears and now she will think Garcelle is being too sensitive about a joke, it was just a joke.  That kid wasn't even talking to Erika he was just getting the floral centerpieces for his mother!

I remember that episode and yes Ericka was acting so stupid. That scene had nothing to do with her son, she was using him as a scapegoat , I believe she has just spoken to Tom before coming down for dinner and he obviously upset her very badly. Ericka lashed out at Ileen because she needed a release.  I could see right through her.  

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On 7/5/2022 at 8:02 PM, Mar said:

That is putting it mildly. I think it’s time to resuscitate her name from the early seasons: Vile Kyle

The way she treated Sutton infuriated me as did her reaction to Erica’s foul behavior. I may be reaching here, but I wonder if Erica didn’t realize who Garcelle’s son was and was thinking that he was stealing the flowers… Racial stereotyping?

No I don't think that was the case because Crystal was with him as well. Erick was stoned out of her mind and went to dam far. 

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11 minutes ago, byrd said:

Mauricio must want to be Diana’s realtor very badly

I hadn't thought of this, and I think this makes sense.

Although I question how much money Diana actually has. Look at how Johnny Depp ran through an immense fortune.

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21 hours ago, funnygirl said:

Preview for tonight: 

Diana has poor manners. But of course Rinna and the Mean Girls go to bat for her because she was brought on to be one of their little "team" members. If people don't realize by now that Kyle/Rinna/Dorit/Erika have been systematically trying to push people off the show and run the ship, then they must be watching a different show. 

It's getting old. Every season is a new target while THEY passive-aggressively jab at the ladies outside of their group. 

And, Rinna, Sutton telling Diana TO HER FACE that she is a motherfucker and soulless is not passive-aggressive. It's straight up being forward and aggressive. 

I hope Sutton tells Rinna "YES I SAID WHAT I SAID !!! 

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Do we all think Erika is deliberately getting drunk on air this season so the talk is all about her drinking (poor love is drinking to cope/mask/whatever) and not about her legal woes and her lack of empathy for the victims?

This woman has been so uptight and controlled for how many seasons and just now she’s a drunken “lit” mess? Not buying it.

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I really like Sheree and she reminds me of someone (it's kind of driving me crazy trying to think of who).  

Rinna actually sneering--SNEERING--when Garcelle correctly said it was rude of Diana for not telling the hostess she wouldn't be there is priceless.  If it was Sutton or Garcelle not showing up for something one of the FF5 did you know she'd be howling about bad manners.

Speaking of, that whole talk about Kyle's between Kyle, Mauricio, Dorit, and PK was vile, but Mauricio actually saying "I'm  glad she said that" as if he had some beef with a 14-year-old?  Too much weed before filming or is he really that much of an asshole?

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8 hours ago, ivygirl said:

A little rich for Rinna to say Sutton is like a beautiful table in a yard full of mud, innit?

I feel like somone cleverer than Rinna (ie, everyone) could interpret this as Sutton is the table amid the mud, which is them.

That said, sorry--I love a platform forever. Not those, in particular, but in general. Also, Sutton looks so cute in her THs.

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10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

.Well, we all know by now that Rinna is a nasty, stupid, idiot!

Yes, Sutton should have probably moved the meal indoors or onto the porch with some heaters, maybe time didn't allow?

I was thinking the same, her home looks large enough to have moved that table inside .. there was a lot of staff there, maybe she felt it was too late. However it was lovely 

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8 hours ago, dmeets said:

Sutton is WAY too forgiving of Kyle, but I guess it helps when, unlike with Crystal,  the rest of the cast isn’t drilling into her head what an awful person she is and pointing out how every non-Crystal incident has Kyle attacking Sutton. Now even physically attacking her as well. At first I thought Kyle was just hammered, but she recalled perfectly that she put it out there that we only have Sutton’s word that she suffered from miscarriages. I mean, Kyle was her landlord! How could Sutton have never mentioned that when giving her the rent check?

I think Diana wins for biggest misrepresentation of a conversation I’ve ever seen on this show. What a mother fucker (don’t grab me, Kyle!) Uh oh, Diana is going to think I just accused her of incest. Ironically she’d have gotten the same righteous outrage from Lisa had she relayed the argument as it actually happened.

Poor Jax. He seems like the sweetest kid too. He really did seem on the verge of tears and I have an awful feeling this isn’t the first time some rich white asshole cursed him out of the blue 🙁 At least Erika appears chagrined at how she spoke to him.

Wonder if Garcelle is having second thoughts about that Kyle team-up now?

So far I’m liking Sheree, curious if she’ll form any friendships with the others.

Lisa was intentionally being a (gasp!) passive aggressive bitch about the mud to Sutton’s assistant. I wonder if any of the women know how to look up a weather forecast. Did production force Sutton to keep the party outside? It seems very out of character for her to not have had a contingency.

I never hated Kyle before but her attitude really sucks this year. She’s gotten at least two popular foes to quit the show and all it’s ever cost was Teddi’s diamond (and Teddi is still a Fux Force loyalist anyways). I doubt she’s going anywhere so they need to cut at least half that clique (and preferably all three of Lisa, Erika and Door-it) after this season or she’s just going to keep getting worse.

Kyle thinks she is the STAR of the show, QUEEN VILE KYLE! Andy has blown up her head,  so if she feels threatened by any other cast member, she will run the off. 

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2 hours ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

What choo talking bout BusyOctober?

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Reminds me of Gretchen Rossi’s habit, which got damned annoying after awhile.

Oh, and in case anyone is curious…I looked up Rinna’s shoes on the Versace website — they’re going for $1575. Podiatrist and orthopedic bills separate.

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

UMM it was a birthday party why would she NOT have her kids there? ALL the other housewives get to have their kids pop in and out and some even tried to leverage that to get their kids opportunity's (rinna and Yolanda  looking at you) they dont have talking heads and every scene they are in its with their mother at her house or her function ...

Yeah, from what I remember Garcelle's kids have only appeared in scenes where they're being refreshingly like kids in kid situations without that much screentime. I mean, here the only reason he appeared was to go pick some flowers off the table--nobody probably thought he'd get put on TV for that!

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7 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Me too.  She's gorgeous and stylish.  She's Will Smith's ex-wife right?  Kinda fascinating.

I am sure she divorced well.

I think G and Sheree could be really good truth tellers to Kyle and Co. which will of course anger them when the realize nobody is buying in their shit.  I look forward to seeing Sheree's house, maybe she will invite the HW's over and not let them snipe and fight with each other in her home.

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8 hours ago, ivygirl said:

A little rich for Rinna to say Sutton is like a beautiful table in a yard full of mud, innit?

I have to admit, I’ve only been following this season on and off, and each time I saw the name Sheree (before seeing this Sheree), I thought Garcelle’s Sheree was She-by-Sheree Sheree 🤣

Kinda wished it was She By Sheree was at that party and handled drunken Ericka for Garcelle. Hell I wouldn't even mind if it was Marlo.

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1 hour ago, pasdetrois said:

Sure, if it was a REAL birthday party. It was a production for Bravo. All of them should be able to bring their children on TV, but the housewives' shows are too nasty for children.

It was an actual birthday party all her friends even the ones from the real were there ...

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1 hour ago, pasdetrois said:

Sure, if it was a REAL birthday party. It was a production for Bravo. All of them should be able to bring their children on TV, but the housewives' shows are too nasty for children.

Didn't Denise get roasted by Erika for seating her kids and their friends at their own table, away from the HWs at an event/party at her house to separate them from the nastiness? IIRC it didn't work, as Erika (naturally) took it as a challenge.

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3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Oh and now Dorit cannot drive a car because of the robbery? She can't even take her kids to the park...when is she ever alone with her kids and no nanny within arms reach, certainly she would have a nanny for an outing to a park because what if one of the kids needed to be pushed on a swing or needed a juice box!

This particular storyline alone proves the necessity of an eye roll emoji…🙄🙄🙄

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13 hours ago, rlc said:

Hey, sometimes it rains in Beverly Hills. Sometimes it snows in Pasadena. Deal with it, ladies. Muck happens.

We had a very unusual rainy December last yesr-of course it's been stone dry since-but December was really wet. There was also the Omicron surge that month so maybe that's why they were outside, but doesn't she have a pool or patio area that would not have been so wet and mushy? And that backyard? Surely that isn't all of it? I am team Sutton, but that party was odd. I had a small gathering of close friends (and their dogs) on the 22nd. and I did give a thought to cancelling it due to Covid, but didn't think it was warranted. Her party was larger, of course so his her house, by a lot. I would just be curious why it was outside in the muck? 

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10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I am sure she divorced well.

I think G and Sheree could be really good truth tellers to Kyle and Co. which will of course anger them when the realize nobody is buying in their shit.  I look forward to seeing Sheree's house, maybe she will invite the HW's over and not let them snipe and fight with each other in her home.

I did chuckle at their conversation about how Kyle was "mopping the floor with her vagina" at the birthday party. 

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7 minutes ago, CallmeCray said:

This particular storyline alone proves the necessity of an eye roll emoji…🙄🙄🙄

I know, if ever there was a need it is now!

Dorit mentioned that PK was going to London and she and the kids were staying here, does this mean they are hiring security or bumping up their security system or adding cameras, why didn't anyone ask how she was going to handle being home alone while he is away? Or did they settle their debt with the last faux break in so they are safe now?

I would have had questions.

4 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I did chuckle at their conversation about how Kyle was "mopping the floor with her vagina" at the birthday party. 

See, wha'd I tell ya, truth tellers!

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