S16.E02: Four Wives, Three Fires

[Scarlett45]

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Janelle's kids have strong opinions about Kody's COVID rules, and Kody makes a surprise visit to Meri's. Then, Kody organises an outdoor get-together for the whole family -- their first time seeing each other in months.

Air Date: November 28, 2021

[Joan of Argh]

Is it ok to post here now?

[Sasha888]

I am loving how Gabe knows exactly who runs this shit show, and isn't going to pretend he doesn't know it - not even for his mother, not even in front of the camera.

[Joan of Argh]

Just now, Sasha888 said:

I am loving how Gabe knows exactly who runs this shit show, and isn't going to pretend he doesn't know it - not even for his mother, not even in front of the camera.

Me too, Gabe is throwing truth bombs and Janelle doesn’t want to believe what he’s saying.

I had to laugh at Meri saying she has her god and blah blah and that’s why she can’t leave but we all know she was ready to drop the family, Kody and her god for Sam and his banana! 🍌

I loved the juxtaposition of that box to Kody!

[Adeejay]

8 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

I am loving how Gabe knows exactly who runs this shit show, and isn't going to pretend he doesn't know it - not even for his mother, not even in front of the camera.

The adult kids all know who is running the show. Which is why I am convinced that Christine's children played a huge part in her getting the heck out of there.

Meri said that people ask her why she stays.  She said she had a confirmation from God that this is where she belongs. I wonder if that confirmation came before or after the catfish incident.

[Tuxcat]

I'm confused about people loving Gabe's truth bombs. This was four months into the pandemic. He was, like most college kids, exposing his family and didn't seem too concerned.  For all the truth about Robyn running the show, and maybe this not being about COVID, Gabe's nonchalant attitude did contribute to the continued spread in 2020 and the resultant, horrific winter surge.  Our university opened summer/fall 2020 and then promptly sent everyone back home due to cluster after cluster after cluster.

I don't like Kody, but at that stage in the pandemic it was reasonable to be irritated with those who decided to travel and visit whenever they wanted. 

[Sasha888]

2 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Meri said that people ask her why she stays.  She said she had a confirmation from God that this is where she belongs. I wonder if that confirmation came before or after the catfish incident.

🤣 Exactly. Back then, God told Meri that it was okay to sneak around behind her family's backs because it was her destiny to be a millionaire's wife.

But then God changed his mind and decided she should be with Kody after all.

Funny how these people all hear God telling them to do exactly whatever it is they feel like doing.

[Joan of Argh]

5 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

🤣 Exactly. Back then, God told Meri that it was okay to sneak around behind her family's backs because it was her destiny to be a millionaire's wife.

But then God changed his mind and decided she should be with Kody after all.

Funny how these people all hear God telling them to do exactly whatever it is they feel like doing.

Exactly Meri has very convenient “truths” and “priorities”

if Kody drove over to Méri’s house and told her that he decided he wanted to run off with her and to hell with the rest of the family…. she wouldn’t be able to pack her bags quickly enough…. She’s so full of it she’s turning brown!

All she ever wanted was Kody and Mariah and that’s still all she really wants.

she sucks up to Robyn and her kids because Robyn makes Kody be nice to her…. “make Meri a s’more”…. Jeez how pathetic and Meri has an orgasm eating that s’more because it was so yummy, gooey, good made especially for her by Kody.

It’s like watching junior high kids 🙄

 

[eskimo]

First we saw Kody asking Robyn's permission for Sol and Ari to attend the gathering, then Robyn says to the camera that they need to do this right so Kody will let them do it again?  Girl, Kody's not calling any shots here.  Production isn't even trying to hide her manipulations from the audience anymore.  Unless she was more careful about what she said on camera before.  

 

Edited November 29, 2021 by eskimo

[Sasha888]

"When I was in my super super dark time, I got in a situation where I was talking to somebody who was NOT who they were saying they were. And it got to be a very manipulative and controlling situation."

This is why I can't stand Meri. Not one thing about this "situation" (call it what it is Meri, you had an online affair) is her fault. 

It's always that she was only talking to somebody, not scratching another man's name into her arm, sending pics of herself in the bathtub, or fellating produce. And it's always "Look what that other person did! They lied! They weren't who they said they were!" SO??? How does someone else being bad absolve you of what YOU did? Quit deflecting and own what you did, or don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

It's not about the other person not being who they said they were, Meri. If that person really had been Sam Cooper, you'd STILL have an awful lot of explaining to do, and you wouldn't have your crybaby sob story to deflect with.

Go eat your pity s'more and then go suck a banana for old time's sake, Meri.

[Adeejay]

I believe Robyn “makes” Kody be nice to Meri because she feels guilty. Had it not been for Meri, Robyn would probably still be a single mother living in a double wide without heat and hot water. But thanks to Meri’s selflessness, she is legally wed and living in a mansion. So, ordering her husband to make Meri a s’more is the least she can do. 

Gabe had better be careful about what he says on camera, especially after what happened with Hunter. I don’t think it’s a good idea to get on Robyn’s bad side.

[Meowwww]

Oh the horror to Robyn.  Janelle wore black shirts and heavy makeup to concerts!!

[deirdra]

4 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Gabe had better be careful about what he says on camera, especially after what happened with Hunter. I don’t think it’s a good idea to get on Robyn’s bad side.

What happened with Hunter?

[Adeejay]

Just now, deirdra said:

What happened with Hunter?

When Robyn announced that she was pregnant with Sol, Hunter said in a confessional, that the last thing that family needed was another child. I don’t believe Robyn ever forgave him.

[deirdra]

11 hours ago, Adeejay said:

When Robyn announced that she was pregnant with Sol, Hunter said in a confessional, that the last thing that family needed was another child. I don’t believe Robyn ever forgave him.

Ah, yes, and he wasn't wrong.

Edited November 29, 2021 by deirdra

[eskimo]

I wonder how much time Kody spends with Christine and her kids in 6 weeks anyway?  Stops by once or twice a week for an hour or so?  We'll say 2x @ 3 hours each, so 6 hours a week.  6hrs X 6 weeks = 36 hours total.  A day and a half.  Let's be generous and say he sees them a grand total of 4 or 5 days out of a six week period, in small increments, where he admittedly surfs the web on his phone.  No big loss.  Aside from the pain of the realization that he doesn't even care enough to be with them for such a serious occasion,  I bet they don't even notice any different.   They are used to being on their own.  And honestly,  the energy Kody brings is so chaotic and annoying it was probably best that he kept that at his and Robyn's house.  

Which brings me to the thought of how much Christine's life has changed, regarding being in a relationship,  since she left.  I bet there has been extremely little change.  Just an asshole that doesn't come by occasionally and make her feel like shit.  

Edited November 29, 2021 by eskimo
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[eskimo]

17 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

When Robyn announced that she was pregnant with Sol, Hunter said in a confessional, that the last thing that family needed was another child. I don’t believe Robyn ever forgave him.

I get the feeling that aside from Kody and maybe Meri, nobody else gives two shits if Robyn and her kids came to the gathering anyway. 

It would never have happened,  but how glorious would it have been if while Robyn was throwing up roadblocks about why she didn't want the gathering to happen, Kody would have said 'those are valid concerns for your kids.  I'll tell everybody you said hi'.  😄

[Meowwww]

Poor Kody.  Marginalized in his wives homes.  /s. 

[eskimo]

4 minutes ago, Meowwww said:

Poor Kody.  Marginalized in his wives homes.  /s. 

I don't know how he thinks he would be the HOH of a home he barely steps foot in.  The wives had no choice but to become the head of the house.  He is such a tool.  

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Sasha888 said:

"When I was in my super super dark time, I got in a situation where I was talking to somebody who was NOT who they were saying they were. And it got to be a very manipulative and controlling situation."

This is why I can't stand Meri. Not one thing about this "situation" (call it what it is Meri, you had an online affair) is her fault. 

It's always that she was only talking to somebody, not scratching another man's name into her arm, sending pics of herself in the bathtub, or fellating produce. And it's always "Look what that other person did! They lied! They weren't who they said they were!" SO??? How does someone else being bad absolve you of what YOU did? Quit deflecting and own what you did, or don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

It's not about the other person not being who they said they were, Meri. If that person really had been Sam Cooper, you'd STILL have an awful lot of explaining to do, and you wouldn't have your crybaby sob story to deflect with.

Go eat your pity s'more and then go suck a banana for old time's sake, Meri.

Didn’t Meri also spin a yarn about how she did a lot of the things she did to protect her family from this horrible person?

I guess giving a blow job to a banana and scratching SAM into her skin and sprawling in the tub was all done to protect the family, long suffering Meri… she’s a saint. 
On one episode Kody asked “what were the threats, what was that person going to do to the family?” and Meri immediately acted like it was too painful to repeat 🙄

Meri will never own her shit which is why I don’t feel any sympathy for her, she was warned several times by her own daughter who knew what she was up to and she wouldn’t listen, no wonder Mariah was so pissed at her stupid ass!

[Elodia]

1 hour ago, Pegasaurus said:

And then Janelle with the snakeskin print leggings, ratty black T-shirt & "German industrial rock" made me laugh despite the disturbing mental image. 

As a Rammstein-Fan myself I quite like the idea ;-)  Who would have thought that Rocker-Babe Janelle would ever have the engery for a concert, let alone a concert where german industrial rock is being played. And why, oh why,  didn't TLC do uns the favor of accompanying her with a camera? 

Best of all was Robyn's disgusted expression when she told about Janelle's concert-get-ups.

3 hours ago, Sasha888 said:

I am loving how Gabe knows exactly who runs this shit show, and isn't going to pretend he doesn't know it - not even for his mother, not even in front of the camera.

Gabe was the star of that episode for sure!

[lindalouwho]

Shaking my head every time Kody opens his mouth. Is he unaware that he has children in college? Even when every thing is online, you have to surface occasionally. Does it not register that he has children who are working? Hunter, Garrison and Paeden are in the military. Zoom is not really an option.  His older kids are married/involved and living elsewhere. So how does he plan on keeping everybody home, with only the moms running out for groceries so they can have a family holiday season.  Maybe he should look up and notice that there are only five or so kids left. The rest are young adults living their own lives. Time for Robin to tell him? He makes me shout at my tv!

[Joan of Argh]

Kody didn’t want to travel with Ysabel because he doesn’t give a crap about her or her mother.

if that was AerolaEbola needing surgery or even AROARa or Brianna he’d move heaven and earth to be there for them because they’re Queenie Robyns girls….

All he felt about Ysabel’s surgery was annoyed that he had to even talk about it!

He’s such a shallow jerk.

[PlygPigs]

44 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

Kody didn’t want to travel with Ysabel because he doesn’t give a crap about her or her mother.

if that was AerolaEbola needing surgery or even AROARa or Brianna he’d move heaven and earth to be there for them because they’re Queenie Robyns girls….

All he felt about Ysabel’s surgery was annoyed that he had to even talk about it!

He’s such a shallow jerk.

I felt so bad for Ysabel when she was crying because she realized her dad didn't care enough to be there for her. All because he wasn't willing to be away from Robyn for a few weeks :(

[LittleGamine]

5 hours ago, lindalouwho said:

Shaking my head every time Kody opens his mouth. Is he unaware that he has children in college? Even when every thing is online, you have to surface occasionally. Does it not register that he has children who are working? Hunter, Garrison and Paeden are in the military. Zoom is not really an option.  His older kids are married/involved and living elsewhere. So how does he plan on keeping everybody home, with only the moms running out for groceries so they can have a family holiday season.  Maybe he should look up and notice that there are only five or so kids left. The rest are young adults living their own lives. Time for Robin to tell him? He makes me shout at my tv!

Exactly. At the time of this episode Dayton and Robyn’s oldest girl (I forget her name - Aurora?) are over 18.  Are they not going to school or working at this time, just spending their time quarantined?  House better damn well be spotless.

Edited November 29, 2021 by LittleGamine
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[Kellyee]

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I'm confused about people loving Gabe's truth bombs. This was four months into the pandemic. He was, like most college kids, exposing his family and didn't seem too concerned.  For all the truth about Robyn running the show, and maybe this not being about COVID, Gabe's nonchalant attitude did contribute to the continued spread in 2020 and the resultant, horrific winter surge.  Our university opened summer/fall 2020 and then promptly sent everyone back home due to cluster after cluster after cluster.

I don't like Kody, but at that stage in the pandemic it was reasonable to be irritated with those who decided to travel and visit whenever they wanted. 

I agree with what you are saying about Covid completely, but I don't blame Gabe. Gabe's attitude problem is a product of his passive mother, absent father, and overall toxic family dynamic. Kody sits on his pedestal and gets all annoyed, but makes no attempt to be in Gabe's life and really parent him. Instead, he sits in judgement of Janelle, who probably didn't even really raise Gabe herself (Christine appears to have done most of the parenting of Janelle's oldest kids). Most of Janelle and Christine's travel during the pandemic was irresponsible (except for Ysabel's surgery, which was needed), but they're too selfish and caught up in sticking it to Kody to realize that. Kody is doing what a lot of parents do when they move on to a new marriage: he's neglecting his original kids and blaming the other parent when they don't behave. A lot of kids act out when they are abandoned by a parent, and Kody has all but abandoned Gabe and his siblings. Gabe is also old enough to remember both the Las Vegas move and the Flagstaff move, and is probably still pissed off about both, since both times the moves were completely unnecessary. 

As was stated above, the other boys besides Gabe are in the military and have to go to work. Staying home isn't an option. But Kody and Robyn don't understand that because they've never been an essential anything in their whole lazy-ass lives. 

On a positive note, I'm impressed by how many Brown kids are either serving their country, finished college, or are otherwise independent. Given their lazy grifting parents, it's a miracle.

 

 

 

 

[65mickey]

 We all know that the family moved to Flagstaff because Dayton wanted to attend college there. So now that he is 21 what exactly is he doing? How many semesters did he finish at this college? Does he work or go to school?  And Aurora is 19 so what is she doing?  And Robyn pretending like all of the Covid rules are coming from Kody sure. Believe me I took Covid seriously and still do but  I still saw my adult daughter and son in law and my granddaughter. I woulld love to know how many of the Brown clowns have been vaccinated and if Robyn allows her children to socialize with the others.  This whole keeping away from each other was Robyn's way of keeping Kody away from the other family members. 

On another note, Kody saying that he is building 3 firepits and placing them in a triangle and Meri is somewhere on the outside and Meri is okay with this?  Meri still begging for Kody's affection is sickening. 

[RoxieBear73]

8 hours ago, Adeejay said:

The adult kids all know who is running the show. Which is why I am convinced that Christine's children played a huge part in her getting the heck out of there.

Meri said that people ask her why she stays.  She said she had a confirmation from God that this is where she belongs. I wonder if that confirmation came before or after the catfish incident.

I would question "my god" if they insist that I stay with a guy like Kody. Like what kind of god would approve of such a relationship where the person is gaslighting the wife and making her think everything is her fault. Wake up Meri and see the light, leave Kody and save any dignity you have left. 

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2021 by RoxieBear73

[MsMalin]

Did I hear Janelle also say she liked Eminem? Interesting.

Meri must have no self love at all. Happy because Kody wanted to talk to her? And their farewell "Nice seeing you"?  That is pathetic.

This episode in particular showed how much Robyn is in charge.

[linthia]

I was appalled when Janelle and Gabe were discussing covid and Gabe said he should just go get covid and then they will be immune. Janelle said "The problem is it is scary. It could kill me."  Gabe just blew it off like that is not his problem. What a selfish little shit.

[JayDub1987]

Scattered thoughts after watching this morning.

Janelle in snakeskin leggings...I'm going to try to bleach my mind's eye to rid myself of that horrible image. 

Meri still whining about being catfished, yet saying she stays because God told her to. No, Meri. You stay because Sam was a chick who was looking to scam you. Shut up, we've all seen the episode.

Gabe proved what we all suspected: he's infinitely smarter than his mother. He figured out Cody's schtick in no time while big goofy Janelle continues to stand there with her big goofy grin while praising the holy name of Kody. I loved how uncomfortable Janelle was when he called out the Kody/Robyn duo.

And in the preview for next week, we learn what we've all known for a while. If you're not Robyn or the product of her vagina, you don't matter to Kody.

 

[jacksgirl]

Trying to remember August 2020. I went back teaching then, and know what? We all masked and had zero (known) teacher infections at my school. Yes, wearing a mask sucked, but we all got used to it. Why not see each other,  try to stay distanced, and mask? So Kody supposedly is seeing all the wives at this time. Is he masking? If he had "talked to his doctor" like Jenelle claimed, the first thing the doctor should have said is mask all of the time. I call total shenanigans on all of these people. I hate Kody and Gabe sure has his number. 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

9 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

if Kody drove over to Méri’s house and told her that he decided he wanted to run off with her and to hell with the rest of the family…. she wouldn’t be able to pack her bags quickly enough…. She’s so full of it she’s turning brown!

 

 

Well with that tooth, she is about 1/1000 there. I also had to laugh when poor dear old Robyn said she would be chasing the little kids around, did I blink and miss that? I saw her yell across the ditch, I saw Meri and Aurora mostly with the kids. At that time in August 2020 lots of schools were back even part time, if Kody was having such a dill about following protocol, why weren't they kids allowed to play with masks on? Gabe does have Robyn's number and I totally believe all this isolation from Kody and the rest of the family comes from her. Meri, you are coming across as a ass with your yearning for Kody, is she out in the field pulling petals off a flower, saying "he loves me, he loves me not?" 

[Granny58]

8 hours ago, eskimo said:

And honestly,  the energy Kody brings is so chaotic and annoying it was probably best that he kept that at his and Robyn's house.  

which is why Robyn probably liked it when K used to be gone for a few days at a time.  

8 hours ago, Pegasaurus said:

I assume this was filmed sometime in 2020?  The constantly yelling at the kids to stay 6 ft apart while they were running around & trying to play outside was just ridiculous.  And sad. Let them play and wear masks if need be. 

But maybe this was during the time period when it was recommended that people should wipe down all grocery items (cans, boxes, etc) outside your home before bringing them inside.  (Now we know the virus doesn't live on a can of beans.) And when we were all washing our hands constantly to the point of chapped skin.  

IIRC, it was August 2020.  Well past the Lysoled grocery time. 

[Granny58]

7 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I guess giving a blow job to a banana and scratching SAM into her skin and sprawling in the tub was all done to protect the family, long suffering Meri… she’s a saint. 

I honestly give Meri a pass on this.  She was in a super deep depression.  Despite what we all see, she madly loves/loved K.  And was shoved aside.  Some people kill themselves when this depressed.  I can fully understand her looking for validation and love.  And despite what people say about God's rules and how the Browns mold them to fit their ideas, they are not alone in this.  People have always justified their actions because they want to do things their way.   God's rules are the perfect standard, but nobody meets them all.  

[Roslyn]

7 hours ago, Elodia said:

As a Rammstein-Fan myself I quite like the idea ;-)  Who would have thought that Rocker-Babe Janelle would ever have the engery for a concert, let alone a concert where german industrial rock is being played. And why, oh why,  didn't TLC do uns the favor of accompanying her with a camera? 

Best of all was Robyn's disgusted expression when she told about Janelle's concert-get-ups.

I was the only punk in my very rural Pennsylvanian family farming county in the 80s 🤣

My husband heard Janelle say that and he stopped and said "Really!!??" So...I kinda have to respect her a little bit now..."  Then listening to the Janelle/Gabe conversation he said ...well maybe not...

And a reminder about Gabe. He has pushed back against anything Janelle said or wanted and if her view was lax then his would have probably been highly cautious. He is one of those pushing against any and all things kids, and being smarter than all the adults put together means he can out argue and just push push push. Janelle once said that Kody was pushing her to have another baby and her response was she was afraid to "get another Gabe". She obviously caved and then had Savanah.

[Adiba]

41 minutes ago, jacksgirl said:

Trying to remember August 2020. I went back teaching then, and know what? We all masked and had zero (known) teacher infections at my school. Yes, wearing a mask sucked, but we all got used to it. Why not see each other,  try to stay distanced, and mask? So Kody supposedly is seeing all the wives at this time. Is he masking? If he had "talked to his doctor" like Jenelle claimed, the first thing the doctor should have said is mask all of the time. I call total shenanigans on all of these people. I hate Kody and Gabe sure has his number. 

Yes, the school kids here were back in with masks on in PA. Testing was widely available by then, too. Why not have everyone tested before a gathering?--yes, I know not a 100% solution, but that and with masks could've provided more protection and some sense of security.

[nosedive]

I was astounded (well, not really, considering the source) that Robyn was so disturbed at the prospect that she "would be the one" chasing after her kids.  Isn't that what mothers typically do?  Look after their own kids at a group event?  What a spoiled princess she is.

[TurtlePower]

Takeaways: 

* Meri going goo-goo over Kody wanting to talk to her—🤮 🙄—god this woman is delusional. Kody will never run back into her arms, ever, after she was ready to ditch them all in 2015. And she’s STILL lying about her role in the catfishing relationship because she had a heads up he was fake. 

* So glad Ysabel is getting (and has gotten) her surgery. She did not deserve to be in pain for so long. 

* Christine is DONE. That’s not acting, as we all know now. 
 

12 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

I honestly give Meri a pass on this.  She was in a super deep depression.  Despite what we all see, she madly loves/loved K.  And was shoved aside.  Some people kill themselves when this depressed.  I can fully understand her looking for validation and love.  And despite what people say about God's rules and how the Browns mold them to fit their ideas, they are not alone in this.  People have always justified their actions because they want to do things their way.   God's rules are the perfect standard, but nobody meets them all.  

All fine and good if she had come clean, but Meri lied about all of it, claiming she was pursued and victimised when she was doing the pursuing, all while knowing this person could be a catfish (Mariah warned Meri, other women warned Meri so the “i was duped” is bullshit). I listened to the voicemails and they are from a woman going after it. 

I’d have empathy for Meri if she came clean but  she keeps playing victim. The fact that she’s never admitted to her role in it is why she gets zero empathy from me. 

[Maire]

As some of you have said, summer of 2020 was a time that non symptomatic  people could gather outdoors, especially with masks. If Robyn was so hyper why not mask her kids? Was it because of the cameras? If so then your priority isn't health its money.

[Joan of Argh]

51 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

I honestly give Meri a pass on this.  She was in a super deep depression.  Despite what we all see, she madly loves/loved K.  And was shoved aside.  Some people kill themselves when this depressed.  I can fully understand her looking for validation and love.  And despite what people say about God's rules and how the Browns mold them to fit their ideas, they are not alone in this.  People have always justified their actions because they want to do things their way.   God's rules are the perfect standard, but nobody meets them all.  

I understand all of that and that’s not what most of us have a problem with… it’s her inability to take responsibility for her actions that annoys us.

she’s still making excuses and blaming it all on the nasty woman who tricked her when Meri herself was an active participant and if Sam Cooper had been real she would have left kody and the family in the dust 

the only reason she’s still hanging around like a bad stench is because there was no handsome millionaire to whisk her away in his private jet 

If she’d own her shit I wouldn’t have a problem with her.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Joan of Argh

[RedDelicious]

My guess here is that when boundaries aren't enforced in general, and you have a mom like Robyn who doesn't think she should even be expected to chase her own kids around a couple campfires, kids of those types of parents, who aren't used to wearing a mask in the first place, are certainly not going to keep a mask on for a one-off outing. That was never going to happen. 

I bet you dollars to donuts that if Kody did mask he wore one of those N95s with the exhaust valve on the front to propagate his kooties to the world.

[WhatAmIWatching]

In the previouslies, when Robyn says she can't move to Utah, because she can't do that to her kids, it makes me so mad. What about when Gabe was on track for a scholarship in Vegas? What about the other teens that were established and had friends and good things going on? Where was her staunch concern then? Ugh I can't stand her almost as much as I can't stand Kody.

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, TurtlePower said:

Takeaways: 

* Meri going goo-goo over Kody wanting to talk to her—🤮 🙄—god this woman is delusional. Kody will never run back into her arms, ever, after she was ready to ditch them all in 2015. And she’s STILL lying about her role in the catfishing relationship because she had a heads up he was fake. 

* So glad Ysabel is getting (and has gotten) her surgery. She did not deserve to be in pain for so long. 

* Christine is DONE. That’s not acting, as we all know now. 
 

All fine and good if she had come clean, but Meri lied about all of it, claiming she was pursued and victimised when she was doing the pursuing, all while knowing this person could be a catfish (Mariah warned Meri, other women warned Meri so the “i was duped” is bullshit). I listened to the voicemails and they are from a woman going after it. 

I’d have empathy for Meri if she came clean but  she keeps playing victim. The fact that she’s never admitted to her role in it is why she gets zero empathy from me. 

This! You nailed it!  👍🏻

Plus… not only did Meri expose herself to a possible sociopath named Jackie Overton but she insisted on exposing her teenage daughter to her as well.

it’s one thing to sneak around online… sexting, sending embarrassing sexy voice mails, sending pics and personal information to a stranger but it’s a whole other level of stupidity to involve your teenage daughter by dragging her along on a date to meet the stranger at Disneyland. 🙄

[maxmama]

All I can say is that I am so happy for Christine that she got herself out of that mess.  If only Meri had the courage to take that step and salvage her self-respect.  

[lamadeleine]

10 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

Takeaways: 

* Meri going goo-goo over Kody wanting to talk to her—🤮 🙄—god this woman is delusional.

It's really hard to watch.

Meri seems to be trying a new tactic this season in regards to how Jackwagon treats her- she's trying to look like she's in on the joke..maybe something akin to: "When you laugh at yourself first, others laugh with you, not at you." Of course, it's all just a pathetic ruse because I think she's actually genuinely excited for the few table scraps of attention he deigns to throw her way every now and then.

Other Takeaways:

• Robyn clutching her pearls over Janelle's heavy metal concert gear. Robyn, maybe you should stop worrying about other people's "heavy make-up", and worry more about your own. Her eye shadow in the TH segments looked horrendous. Blending is your friend, hon...
• While we're on the subject of TH segment fashion and make-up- is the lighting just terrible or is Meri desperately trying to contour her nose?? Maybe her God forbids blending as well as leaving her dead marriage.
• I was surprised to hear Meri say that she didn't need her own fire-pit- I thought she'd not only demand one for herself, but require a portable wet bar as well.
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[TurtlePower]

2 minutes ago, maxmama said:

All I can say is that I am so happy for Christine that she got herself out of that mess.  If only Meri had the courage to take that step and salvage her self-respect.  

This. Meri talks a big game about being independent and strong, but she isn’t strong enough to go, even though she’s not wanted. 

[GeeGolly]

I too wanted to slap Robyn for bitching about watching her OWN kids.

I also found it ridiculous they were all social distancing as Kody walked from one group to the other.

I do think Janelle's boys were (age appropriately) cavalier about covid. That was only 5 months into the pandemic. Like Janelle said, its certainly okay for them to pick their jobs and friends over their family, but they need to own their choices. As their mom, she should have enforced the consequences of their choices. 

IMO, Janelle played (and still is playing) some crazy stupid odds living with her sons, with covid lurking. It most likely won't be pretty if she's ever unfortunate enough to catch covid.

[Madding crowd]

I don’t have a problem with Meri, she has already apologized to Kody and Mariah, she doesn’t need to walk around with a scarlet letter on her chest for the rest of her life. She did a stupid thing and got catfished which happens to lonely people every day unfortunately. Kody had abandoned her in favor of Robyn and she thought someone was showing her attention. She didn’t murder anyone and as far as I’m concerned she doesn’t need punishment, she needs a husband who actually loves her.

The constant moving talk is just boring at this point as is Robyn’s hand wringing that she might have to watch her own kids for once. Not sure I can picture Janelle as being a heavy metal or rapper fan, my guess is that Robyn thinks anything not Christian rock is shocking . I would love to see Janelle made up with her ripped tee shirt though!

[Sasha888]

I think you guys are all missing the point Robyn was trying to make about watching kids at the barbeque.

I think her point was that one of those 3 kids was Truely, and Christine was not helping at all. 

I'm not saying I agree with Robyn's point, but I do think it was designed to throw Christine under the bus, not that she just wanted to complain about watching her own kids. 

Robyn is always working her game, and it would do her no good to complain about watching her own kids, that would only make her look bad. Robyn wants to look good and make someone else look bad - so I think the point was "Look how Christine doesn't care a hoot about social distancing and doesn't watch Truely at all."

As a bonus, she gets to show Kody how "good" she was, how hard she tried, but what a mess it turned out to be and how they probably should never all get together again.

The Dark Queen does nothing without a reason.