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S11.E20: New Year, Old Grudges


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5 hours ago, Lassus said:

I would have done this if I thought it might help my brother's alcoholism not kill him, so she gets a pass on this as far as I'm concerned.

As far as Faye Resnick, that's second order.  

AGAIN, I don't know these people.  But stirring shit on a TV show that requires shit to be stirred or it's called boring - even by this board - just does not prove to me Kyle is MORE than a TV villain.  And she IS that villain.  But I admit I don't think she's in Rinna's class of personally awful by a long shot.  Maybe it's just a preference for a type of evil, I suppose.

I can't figure Kyle out. Sometimes she seems quite lovely, other times she seems jealous and cold and even mean. She probably has more friends than a lot of these women though. I don't think Faye is even her closest friend. We've seen her best friend on the show and it was someone else. I also think she and Mauricio are genuinely happy. Many rumors of cheating throughout the years, but zero proof. Kyle did a great job with her kids. There are a lot of things that point to her having a lot of good qualities. But then you see the way she treats some of the people on RH, and yikes. 

A lot of us have noticed she often clashes more with women who are more popular or look a certain way, but beautiful and famous Ali Landry's said Kyle's a great friend to her. Maybe the show just brings out the worst in Kyle? She and Vanderpump were supposedly great until the show and Vanderpump being such a hit with fans. 

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17 hours ago, amarante said:

Inquiring minds want to know why Chinese New Year was celebrated in a Japanese restaurant. The building is a replica of a restaurant in Japan where Lill Bill was filmed. 

Here is the menu 

https://shansocialhouse.com/food.html

I noticed that Crystal told us she wanted to share the experience of Asia.  The restaurant is apparently famous and was probably chosen for is 1)atmosphere 2)availability or maybe Rob just had an in with the owners?   Anyway, I've been to a Chinese New Year Celebration dinner before and they really are cool and fun and not only in a Chinese restaurant. 

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19 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I noticed that Crystal told us she wanted to share the experience of Asia.  The restaurant is apparently famous and was probably chosen for is 1)atmosphere 2)availability or maybe Rob just had an in with the owners?   Anyway, I've been to a Chinese New Year Celebration dinner before and they really are cool and fun. 

I am sure this location was chosen because of the ambience and production would have made the arrangements. 
 

Since it was filmed during the pandemic there was no indoor dining in Los Angeles and the restaurant would have been thrilled to get the location fees  

I am sure they brought in a Chinese catering crew and the food was delicious.

I don’t think Crystal was trying to provide an Asian experience as Chinese Mew Year and the dragon and the traditions are very specific to China and not Japan or Korea nor was it any kind of fusion event except for the desserts because with the exception of egg tarts, I am not fond of Chinese pastries. The Japanese on the other hand have fabulous pastries which are French. They are very authentic as I worked near the Japanese center in Los Angeles for awhile and they had a few of the Japanese bakeries who were branches of Japanese bakeries. The other very authentic Japanese fusion is their take on curry and spaghetti. To analogize, it is their equivalent of Chinese American cuisine and it is quite delicious as long as you accept it for what it is and don’t expect either Indian or Italian versions. There was a place called Hurry Curry on Sawtelle that had fabulous versions. 

I just thought it was ironic that a Japanese venue was selected. 

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Eh, as an easily startled person, I can't be mad at Kyle having a bit of a freakout or assume it's some kind of weirdo put-on personality trait that turns off her husband. Some people are skittish, myself included (though I do love scary things -- go figure).

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The Japanese on the other hand have fabulous pastries which are French. They are very authentic as I worked near the Japan center in Los Angeles for awhile amd they had a few of the Japanese bakeries who set out an outpost. The other very authentic Japanese fusion is their take on curry and spaghetti. To analogize, it is their equivalent of Chinese American cuisine and it is quite delicious as long as you accept it for what it is and don’t expect either Indian or Italian versions  

I prefer Japanese curry to Indian curry. So, so, so good.

I've seen places in Japan where spaghetti is served as a burger topping...

As far having the event at a Japanese place, I just assumed given everything that's going, it was the best place they could find for filming.

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20 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Doesn’t Kathy ever go anywhere with her husband? He probably refuses to be on this shit show. 
Im looking forward to the food porn at this party. Love Chinese food. And I’m hungry. 

You are right.  He’s too important for this shit show.  Kathy is just passing time.

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There are a lot of things that point to her having a lot of good qualities. But then you see the way she treats some of the people on RH,

Yeah, I think she is both ridiculous and down to earth, I think she can be genuinely a good friend and a really fucking shitty one, this season she's been a big big asshole, but I think since she successfully unseated LVP and was I believe the original engine behind getting the cast together, she feels like she can/should stir the shit, because the show would be boring w/o it. But I am never ever getting over how she facilitated the Kim/Brandy take down of Denise. The resentment and hatred and jealousy was so completely off the fucking charts, all this support for Erika just throws how fucked up last season was with Denise into starker relief. Due to that I'll never more than tolerate her sticking around to get more of Kathy.

 

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Doesn’t Kathy ever go anywhere with her husband? 

I think she explained why she doesn't bring him? He's a dud, he doesn't enjoy dinner parties, he's bored when he comes and it's better to bring someone fun who will enliven the party. 

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20 hours ago, JD5166 said:

Kyles spastic nerves are not cute she’s 50-something, god she’s an asshole. I might dislike her even more than Erica...outing Sutton at that lunch? I bet she’s year of the snake....

I've been thinking that very thing, that I actually dislike Kyle even more than Erika.  How is that possible?  I dunno, but all season long has been one big dump on Sutton, setting her up for a fall, and then receding into the background as much as possible.  Unless, it's to get all huffy while telling Sutton what a GOOD friend she has been to her.  Girl, shut up.  You are a mess maker and a liar. 

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20 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

When she said Sutton didn't think she told the truth about the accident I really expected somebody to say, "Neither do you!"

And if we're keeping track...so now even though Erika thought Tom was with soe woman...I guess he called her? But couldn't tell her where he was because of the serious brain injury? So her son went off duty and they went to find him? Yeah, that sounds like some head trauma there...

Her stories are so ridiculous! I hope everyone sees it now that the season is airing. 

I wish Sutton would stop trying to get Erika’s approval. It’s hard to watch. 

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45 minutes ago, The Closer said:

This episode was the worst episode in the worst season of this series. Turning it into the Ericka Jayne Show was okay for a couple of episodes but for an entire season? It was a snoozefest. Please, Andy, no more of her, ok?

Right on!  I was so bored that I paused and went out to the barn to check on one of my horses that has an injured eye for which the vet was out earlier in the day to help me out with it.  She was just laying down in the stall so I thought I'd talk to her a bit and then finally went back to the house and forgot to start the show again! It was super boring.  I watched the rest today and it didn't seem to get any better.  And the guy that was on Kathy's arm.  He talked several times and I was waiting for his HYSTERICAL personality...crickets.  Kathy must be easily amused because there was zero funny from him. 

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17 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Erika at the end: "Ah have answered to the best of mah ability".  WTF?  She sounded like Clinton denying the affair with Lewinsky.

She reminded of that episode of The Simpsons when Marge was in a musical version of A Streetcar Named Desire: "Ah have always depended on the kahnd-ness of strangers." Erika definitely sees herself as a heroine; she's performing her role as A Delicate Flower Who Somehow Finds the Strength to Go On. How many times has she said to another housewife, you don't know what I'm really going through, and then follows that with some car-flipping tall tale? Ridiculous.

I will say, though, I admire Kyle's restraint when Erika hesitated: He uhhhhhhhmmm--. It was the perfect time to bare her teeth and respond Or what? Or. What?!

 

5 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Forgetting for a second that this is TV where she’s driving a narrative, There was NO reason to bring that up. NONE. Even bringing it up for TV purposes is dirty pool. Kyle knows Sutton wants to move on. That comment was just her dumping more gas onto the fire.

In the trailers for the reunion, it looks as if Andy is willing to take Ericka to task. I hope Sutton comes for Kyle and Kathy now that she's seen how they went out of their way to get others to antagonize her. Shit-stir if you must, but don't do so and then act surprised and wounded that your target doesn't see you as a friend.

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1 hour ago, The Closer said:

 … Ericka Jayne Show was okay for a couple of episodes but for an entire season? It was a snoozefest. Please, Andy, no more of her, ok?

well, unless she remarries quickly (into the economic stratosphere again), would she still qualify for this show in the coming seasons?

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3 hours ago, Raiderred said:

Right on!  I was so bored that I paused and went out to the barn to check on one of my horses that has an injured eye for which the vet was out earlier in the day to help me out with it.  She was just laying down in the stall so I thought I'd talk to her a bit and then finally went back to the house and forgot to start the show again! It was super boring.  I watched the rest today and it didn't seem to get any better.  And the guy that was on Kathy's arm.  He talked several times and I was waiting for his HYSTERICAL personality...crickets.  Kathy must be easily amused because there was zero funny from him. 

Hope your horse is all right!

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3 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

She reminded of that episode of The Simpsons when Marge was in a musical version of A Streetcar Named Desire: "Ah have always depended on the kahnd-ness of strangers." 

😄😄 😄

I so want to watch that again now

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Almost everyone shows up in modest attire for the Chinese New Year.  Ericka wears an awful red animal print dress cut up to her thigh.  Rinna wears a catsuit cut down to her navel.

 

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1 hour ago, dosodog said:

I submit the following moment for Kyle to be considered in Rinna's class of personality:

Kyle's response to someone she called a close friend, when said friend began to break down over the death of her brother, was, " We've all got problems".  Kyle's problem being a TV show got canceled. 

 

 

I generally see Kyle as more human than Rinna, but you're right, she was horrible there.

I think it was even worse. I remember something like "I have shit going on in my life too." Worst way to comfort someone dealing with trauma ever. If I lost my only sibling to suicide, I would not appreciate what I was dealing with referred to as dealing with shit. 

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On 10/6/2021 at 9:30 PM, blixie said:

And they both know the truth is Rinna doesn't really give a shit about either Garcelle or Denise, but she knows she is hella wrong about everything involving them both, and if they won't just brush it under the rug she can't deal with them.

Yes! Rinna doesn't want to OWN IT!  Just OWN it Rinna just OWN it! 

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On 10/6/2021 at 8:14 PM, Chicklet said:

Oh nooo she can't remember the story now. And she let her "wonderful husband" be unconscious for 12 hours without calling 911?

I’m either confused about multiple accidents or she’s seriously gaslighting me through the screen. I’m rewatching past seasons and in 2 (8&10) she mentions the accident where Tom broke his ankle. It’s always downplayed and sh either wasn’t there (she heard about it) or was just back from Tokyo (s8 trip with Rinna). Either way there was NO talk of it being anything like what she’s saying or that she was in the ER making decisions. I mean, they were filming! And there was nothing? That would’ve been prime bravo viewing. They’d have loved to have had Devoted Wife Erika rushing to his aid. 

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On 10/6/2021 at 10:24 PM, chick binewski said:

Even though I'm sick of hearing Erika's fake S11 voice I was kind of hoping for this, too. But I think Dorit probably read PK the riot act that they have to be nice to Erika to her face bc Erika is part of the coven and if Dorit resists then she'll be where she was her first 2 seasons when LVP was the only one who was nice to her and Dorit cannot lose her place on the show bc shockingly being a fake bridal designer doesn't pay much.

I think PK was amusing himself. Maybe seeing if he could get some laughs from her crazy stories. He was in the WWHL audience since Dorit was on and Andy flat out asked him a question about whether he was sorry for laughing and saying it was unbelievable. And it was like ‘no, because it was’. He didn’t even hesitate. So I think he didn’t have anything better to do with Dorit off and about than to try and entertain himself. I just wish we could’ve seen him asking her questions and her spinning more stories. 

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8 hours ago, kristen111 said:

You are right.  He’s too important for this shit show.  Kathy is just passing time.


To quote Imperious Erika: He has bigger fish to fry.

 

7 hours ago, Raiderred said:

Right on!  I was so bored that I paused and went out to the barn to check on one of my horses that has an injured eye for which the vet was out earlier in the day to help me out with it.  She was just laying down in the stall so I thought I'd talk to her a bit and then finally went back to the house and forgot to start the show again! 

You missed a golden opportunity to tell us a story about the exploding cataracts she had, which developed after a six— no, ten— no, twelve-time rollover accident she had while galloping back up the canyon behind your house ;)

 

(I’m being silly. I’m sorry about your horse and hope she heals soon!)

 

4 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

😄😄 😄

I so want to watch that again now

I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Simpsons episode. “Stella! Stella! Can’t you hear me yell-a? You’re putting me through hell-a! Stelllllllalalalal…. STELLA!!!!!” 🤣

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4 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

So now Erika tells the Fucked Up Five Four, (when they were dining and Erika threatened to sock an invisible Sutton in the mouth) that she told them in La Quinta that her son helped her find Tom...the first time.  The time he was unconscious for 12 hours and rolled 5 or 6 times (who's counting?) and she found him.  She expounded on how her story was true and would never change.  Um, it just did you dumb fuck.  And Kyle is like, I don't remember that and Erika just kinda talks around it, and Kyle swallows it hook, line and sinker.  Gah.  Never underestimate the power of denial.

And so her son shows up the second time, when Tom had the exploded cataract while fighting off a cuff link bandit, and rolls his car many times (I can't keep up) in the frozen tundra north of Pasadena (how am I doing?) and remains fairly unscathed in spite of it all.

My point is:  Erika's son, the policeman, maybe, allegedly is keeping certain activities and behaviors on the downlow.  I didn't say "covered up" because that would take another "allegedly" and who needs that? 

Anyway, just a thought.

Hahaha .. you can’t make this shit up.  Funny! 😂👍

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21 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And then her snotty TH when she was all "no one tells me what to do and when to do it."  So much for 'owning it.'

Does she ever “own it”? 

I wish she had been just as quick to put Erika’s business on blast as she was to put Denise’s private business on blast. She (and Teddi) gave Brandi the oxygen to keep that story going long after it should have been shut down. Yet, Erika’s possible role in the defrauding of innocent people of millions — all made public — gets hardly a peep, and Rinna’s been one of her biggest defenders.

Garcelle sees right through their games and is not afraid to call them on it.

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8 hours ago, lawrbk said:

I’m either confused about multiple accidents or she’s seriously gaslighting me through the screen. I’m rewatching past seasons and in 2 (8&10) she mentions the accident where Tom broke his ankle. It’s always downplayed and sh either wasn’t there (she heard about it) or was just back from Tokyo (s8 trip with Rinna). Either way there was NO talk of it being anything like what she’s saying or that she was in the ER making decisions. I mean, they were filming! And there was nothing? That would’ve been prime bravo viewing. They’d have loved to have had Devoted Wife Erika rushing to his aid. 

I’ve said for awhile that that scene is damning, as is the later scene with Tom before she left for New York. I’m convinced that Tom probably did have a minor accident where he broke (or maybe just sprained) his ankle, but nothing more than that. Erika has kept embellishing the story as the sling her ass is in has kept getting tighter and tighter. 

Her story, as it has envolved, is completely unbelievable. I’m amazed that it’s taken this long for that to dawn on some of her toadies friends.

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18 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I wish she had been just as quick to put Erika’s business on blast as she was to put Denise’s private business on blast. She (and Teddi) gave Brandi the oxygen to keep that story going long after it should have been shut down. Yet, Erika’s possible role in the defrauding of innocent people of millions — all made public — gets hardly a peep, and Rinna’s been one of her biggest defenders.

Every time one of Erika's tall tales comes up and Rinna bellows "ALLLLLL TRRRRUUUUEEE!" I want to scream.  I hope Andy asks her why she's so hard in Erika's corner when she was storming Denise's castle with torches.

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15 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Every time one of Erika's tall tales comes up and Rinna bellows "ALLLLLL TRRRRUUUUEEE!" I want to scream.  I hope Andy asks her why she's so hard in Erika's corner when she was storming Denise's castle with torches.

I suspect this will be one of the few times when she keeps her mouth shut. She’s not going to want to get sucked into what could be a contentious exchange between Erika and Andy. It wouldn’t be in her best interests to do that.

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Regarding the restaurant that Crystal picked - the location had a sign that said "Japanese and Modern Chinese Restaurant" when they were zooming out to the commercial break. 

And they filmed part of Kill Bill there too.

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I think they jokingly said after they had already chosen that wig that it very Pulp Fiction, in a Tarentinoeaque coincidence.

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1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Every time one of Erika's tall tales comes up and Rinna bellows "ALLLLLL TRRRRUUUUEEE!" I want to scream.  I hope Andy asks her why she's so hard in Erika's corner when she was storming Denise's castle with torches.

He asked her exactly that when she was on WWHL although he couched it as "viewers want to know."  She said it was because she "learned her lesson last year" about jumping on people or some bullshit.  So basically, no she didn't really answer and I don't think she will anyway. 

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16 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

I think they jokingly said after they had already chosen that wig that it very Pulp Fiction, in a Tarentinoeaque coincidence.

I think she looked more like Catherine Bell in the Good Witch movies/series on Hallmark.  🤪

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Rinna is like a 1970s daytime talk show last minute fill in guest. She shows up in a glittery pantsuit, tries to be funny but only ever really achieves "loud". She's to tv as Spinal Tap is to rock and roll. 

Kyle takes every shot that LVP ever did, except she only ever does it in her THs, where the person she's jabbing doesn't even get a chance to fire something back in the moment.  That's worse imo. How the other HWs have not figured this out by now is a mystery to me. Like rule number one: Never tell Kyle anything. You can't "vent" to Kyle, because she will save that up and use it as ammo later if it suits her purposes.  

 

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18 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

 

I wish Sutton would stop trying to get Erika’s approval. It’s hard to watch. 

Especially in light of Erika’s threats. I think Sutton is a person who doesn’t like conflict. But for her own well-being she needs to run — not walk — away from Erika. 

I cringed watching her make yet one more overture to Erika at the table. 

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She's to tv as Spinal Tap is to rock and roll. 

Although I didn't watch earlier seasons, I understand Rinna was held in high regard for her hijinx.

But now she has the whiff of has-been all over her. Her hijinx are past-sale-date and she's morphed into desperate and nasty.

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3 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

Although I didn't watch earlier seasons, I understand Rinna was held in high regard for her hijinx.

But now she has the whiff of has-been all over her. Her hijinx are past-sale-date and she's morphed into desperate and nasty.

Yes, I used to like Rinna quite a bit and remembered her from her role in Melrose Place.  Her actions on RHoBH show the kind of morally reprehensible person she really is and my opinion of her has plummeted.  She'll do anything to stay relevant and sink to new lows to maintain this gig.  She probably tells herself that she is playing the role of a villain, but at what cost?  She loves to take down popular co-stars without a thought to the consequences that may bring to their lives.

38 minutes ago, Shannah Banana said:

Well, you and I couldn't but Erika can!

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LOL!  But, Erika explained herself on this episode- she's not lying, she's "trolling the trolls."  Now when her ridiculous stories are disproven, she will be able to say it was all to troll the judgmental viewing public.  

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