S11.E16: Threats and Promises

[Cupcake04]

7 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

Who TF is Sutton to be questioning Erika?  Sutton is not a trial lawyer and Erika isn't on the stand.  Erika is a co-worker/"friend" and Tom's embezzlement has absolutely nothing to do with Sutton "Fragility" Stracke.  If you insinuated one of your co-workers/friends was lying and/or complicit if their husband was charged with fraud at an unrelated job, you'd probably get cursed out too. Sutton is a flip flopper because she was saying one thing to Kyle one on one before Kathy's dinner but then at the dinner said she was going to support Erika.  Sutton is getting a pass for being two-faced because a lot of people are on the Erika hate train, but that is shitty, duplicitous behavior.  

Erika hasn't done anything to these women.  I understand asking questions or being suspicious but it's crazy for anybody to think that someone should be able to accuse her to her face of being a liar and she's just supposed to take it.  It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or believes because the truth is that they don't know what she knew.  I think Sutton saw the fan reaction as things were coming out and decided to make her mark (work hard for a diamond) by going after Erika . I can't stand her.

Huh?  

[Straycat80]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Oh, no. What if total strangers saw Erika’s nipple?!?

Go look at her Instagram, you can see more than that! 

[JenE4]

9 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

So weird. Or not, the way that every time Garcelle says something direct it gets changed into something not direct. Like Kyle pretending that Garcelle pointing out that she's being a hypocrite about saying things right away to your face means that Garcelle is mad at Kyle. She's just making an observation, Kyle, she's not trying to restart the fight.

Good lord, looks like even more details added to the car crash story next week!

If a car flips over 6 times going over a cliff behind a house and no one’s there to see it, did it really happen? Seriously, how would Erika possibly know it flipped 6 times if the only person there was unconscious for 12 hours? 

[65mickey]

Forgive me if this has already been addressed but I am confused about the car accident where Tom drove off a cliff, car flipped 6 times and he was unconscious for 12 hours but managed to find his phone and call Erika. Did Erika say that he suffered a traumatic brain injury and this is when his dementia became evident? Did she ever address how she got him up the cliff that he drove over? Did she call 911 and did he receive medical treatment for his head injury?  I sort of remember a few seasons ago when she told them that Tom had been in an accident and broke his ankle. Wasn't there  a scene where she was making his lunch and he was shown working from home? Is this the same accident where he drove off the cliff or are they 2 different accidents? 

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

Hope she kept the receipt for that orange beaded number. 

In any other color it would be better, I thought it was a Halloween coat, looked like ghosts on the lapels but you know it was very expensive because she was wearing it.

We almost got shopping porn, we did see Kyle and Sutton buying rings so that was something but I wanted to see more of the auction items, I am an auction addict.

[CrinkleCutCat]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

If a car flips over 6 times going over a cliff behind a house and no one’s there to see it, did it really happen? Seriously, how would Erika possibly know it flipped 6 times if the only person there was unconscious for 12 hours? 

Da da daaaaaah!

That is a very good question! 

[Slakkie]

I think the issue is that most of these women know how mean she is and that they have dirt she would go after.  My guess is Sutton and Garcelle are the only ones she does not have any (because they are clean or they just hide it) and why no one else will do anything but tip toe around.

And what I most loathe Erika for is making me like and agree with PK.

[SassyCat]

Ahh Chrystal, over there on the sidelines in her little peanut gallery. Always desperately,  for months now, trying to tag onto Sutton, the words “inappropriate and awkward “. 

I think Crystal is the inappropriate one, who at very odd moments throws out the shade that Sutton is “awkward”.

The ones who I am seeing as definitely inappropriate and awkward are Ericka, with her ass shoved in everyones face in her instagrams, her vicious bared tooth attacking of anyone who doesn’t kiss that lying ass of hers. The awkwardness the whole room feels when she goes into extreme attack mode,  or relates an obvious fairytale lie of past events, ..example being Toms horrible accident in the back of the house.

Then there the ever inappropriate screaming  bell ringing, dancing asshole at the dinner table Lisa Rinna. A loud and obnoxious guest, no matter what gathering she is at. Nuff said there. 

Then we have the Queen Vile who inappropriately starts unleashing vitriol at Sutton as if shes done something wrong by “not being honest enough” in her encounter with the murder-in-her-eyes Ericka whos bared, sharpened teeth are inches away from Suttons throat. What the hell is wrong with her? That was pretty awkward to witness from my viewpoint, and extremely inappropriate of Kyle to fan the flames to.

Nope Crystal. Its not going to work. Sutton may be playful with her vintage clothing, but it was your pleated leather pants that were truly awkward looking and probably inappropriate for the hot weather that day in California, that you wore along with your smirking mean girl smile at the thought of upsetting Sutton. Ha!

Crystal, its YOUR little nasty, uncalled for shots at Sutton from the peanut gallery that deem YOU the truly inappropriate one out of the 2 of you. We can all see how truly awkward it is YOU are feeling , trying to get a spot in with the ones you think are the big, cool dogs. Yes you are right, they are the dogs of the group and I don’t think at this point that is anything to be proud of, or to strive to be part of. 

 

And Kathy.. it was inappropriate for you to let things go so far at your dinner table with the attack on Sutton when the one who should have been shut down and shown the door is Ericka. Her behavior was bordering criminal, actually it was criminal threatening with her promises to get Sutton. This all allowed at your dinner table with your vile sister Kyle egging it all on, fanning the flames. I am not impressed with that hostess style at all. Nope, not a bit. 

 

No disrespect to actual sweet puppy dogs are insinuated in this post.

[hoodooznoodooz]

3 hours ago, film noire said:

Hey, hoodooz! Not much time to post lately, but I've been reading the forum - this place is on fire! - so satisfying watching The Petty Mess get her deserved comeuppance from Karma - every week, as the opening taglines roll, I think "Please let it be about Tom"  ; )

It’s the name!

 

(I hope everything is okay with you? Just busy at the office?)

[byrd]

12 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Jesus, why are they all insisting that Sutton needs to stay and deal with that person?

ETA: Once again, I am forced to slightly like Dorit for saying, "um, this was exactly WHY Sutton was concerned about her own legal liabilities?"

I fuckin hate Dorit ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[byrd]

12 hours ago, Cupcake04 said:

Why Rinna acting like she wasn’t even there.  You were sitting at the table when all this shit went down!  What the hell?

LOVE Garcelle calling her out on it!

 

Lisa is such a phony biach !

[Lassus]

15 hours ago, janiema said:

2. HIPPA applies to healthcare workers, not private people like Sutton.

HIPAA is one of the most misunderstood, misinterpreted, incorrectly cited regulations in the history of regulating. 

(EDIT: To be clear, JANIEMA is correct.)

Edited September 9, 2021 by Lassus

[Julyolo]

10 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

Erika was a sugar baby.  Do we think Hugh Hefner's wives knew about his business affairs?  Was Anna Nicole balancing a checkbook?  If Madonna marries one of her sugar babies, do we think he's going to be in the know about her business?  A sugar baby's job is to look good and give up the sugar, and in exchange they get to live in luxury.  It hasn't been substantiated for me that Erika is fighting recovery efforts, but let's say she is.  My issue is not with anyone disliking Erika's behavior.  My issue that she is getting called complicit, a criminal and a scammer with no proof.  Let's say she has zero sympathy for Tom's victims or misrepresented her marriage -- that still doesn't mean she was complicit.

 

Message to all contemplating a future as a "sugar baby":

"Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas".

Also, the IRS will also give "zero fucks" about what you claim your status was in any relationship. They kinda roll with "pay up or shut up".

[Lassus]

I can't even manage to read through everything, but did anyone else notice Rinna saying to Garcelle "Well, sure I attacked you and then didn't defend you, but you only thanked me once for the sauce, so, BOTH SIDES, see?  We both have issues."

[byrd]

12 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

And she has the nerve to Garcelle a bully but has yet to call Erika a bully . . .

Honestly , I would have loved to see Erika and Brandi go after each other ! Lol !!!

[blixie]

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most of these women know how mean she is and that they have dirt she would go after

I agree but then, what's Crystal's excuse? I will say I am really looking forward to the reunion where all these women backtrack like a mofo, but that assumes Andy isn't in Erika's hip catsuit pocket. Asshole.

[byrd]

11 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

Who TF is Sutton to be questioning Erika?  Sutton is not a trial lawyer and Erika isn't on the stand.  Erika is a co-worker/"friend" and Tom's embezzlement has absolutely nothing to do with Sutton "Fragility" Stracke.  If you insinuated one of your co-workers/friends was lying and/or complicit if their husband was charged with fraud at an unrelated job, you'd probably get cursed out too. Sutton is a flip flopper because she was saying one thing to Kyle one on one before Kathy's dinner but then at the dinner said she was going to support Erika.  Sutton is getting a pass for being two-faced because a lot of people are on the Erika hate train, but that is shitty, duplicitous behavior.  

Erika hasn't done anything to these women.  I understand asking questions or being suspicious but it's crazy for anybody to think that someone should be able to accuse her to her face of being a liar and she's just supposed to take it.  It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or believes because the truth is that they don't know what she knew.  I think Sutton saw the fan reaction as things were coming out and decided to make her mark (work hard for a diamond) by going after Erika . I can't stand her.

ALL OF THIS ! I SO AGREE 

[Ms Blue Jay]

7 hours ago, LemonSoda said:

Ugh that flashback of Kyle/Garcelle over the 5k. Kyle’s claim the hospital handles that not her. Hmm then why mention it on national tv with such glee in your eyes? 

Kyle scares me.  The levels of manipulation in every single thing she does.  Who has that kind of mental energy to spend on manipulating people?  I can't believe how much effort she puts into it.  She's constantly planning how to try and make Sutton and Garcelle look bad.  

[Keywestclubkid]

its like Tom lives in some action movie with the way cars just seem to flip when hes around ... lol

[Lassus]

I swear I definitely watched this whole episode but I didn't realize Crystal said much of anything to anyone.  I must have missed something because she's certainly getting a lot of Gunvalson-level hate here and she strikes me as more of a cipher.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Basically, IMO, it seems evident that Erika experienced a bout of narcissistic rage at the dinner table, which is why we all had to witness her meltdown. 

But what I found most interesting about it is that for all of her weeks of "domineering, controlling Tom who ignored me in our marriage but is also dementia-addled and weak" narrative, she was quick to lean on him to make her threat. Despite the fact that Erika's been the one who has been claiming he has health issues and has cheated on her and ignored her, blah blah blah, it's Sutton that Tom is going to sue because she's pointed out a few inconsistencies in Erika's story? Come on now, Erika.

She's clearly used to using Tom as a threat on people when she doesn't get her way, and it seems to me like she was falling back on old habits there. But regardless, whether or not they want to see it (and to be fair, Dorit and Kyle - for all of the fact that she was stirring the pot - pointed this out), she proved Sutton's point about being concerned about legal issues. 

34 minutes ago, Lassus said:

I swear I definitely watched this whole episode but I didn't realize Crystal said much of anything to anyone.  I must have missed something because she's certainly getting a lot of Gunvalson-level hate here and she strikes me as more of a cipher.

I didn't like the fact that Chrystal was taking Erika's side after witnessing such atrocious behavior at the dinner table. But at the end of the day, IMO, she's still pretty much a minor player in this whole drama. I think that the hate she is getting is overblown. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by eleanorofaquitaine

[CatMomma]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Forgive me if this has already been addressed but I am confused about the car accident where Tom drove off a cliff, car flipped 6 times and he was unconscious for 12 hours but managed to find his phone and call Erika. Did Erika say that he suffered a traumatic brain injury and this is when his dementia became evident? Did she ever address how she got him up the cliff that he drove over? Did she call 911 and did he receive medical treatment for his head injury?  I sort of remember a few seasons ago when she told them that Tom had been in an accident and broke his ankle. Wasn't there  a scene where she was making his lunch and he was shown working from home? Is this the same accident where he drove off the cliff or are they 2 different accidents? 

I believe she was referring to the same accident.

And yeah, join the club. It was so convoluted and ridiculous, I thought the same. Was this a different accident? 

But, how dare Sutton question it?

[Pop Tart]

9 hours ago, princelina said:

Unpopular opinion coming because I know she's a fan favorite right now, but Garcelle was up to her neck in that shit-stirring scenario.  Started it and kept it going.

I'm with you. Garcelle does stir things up and then backs down when it really comes to participating. She's got a lot of sharp observations and thoughts in her talking heads but rarely says any of them to anyone directly. Why didn't she speak up more when Erika was going after Sutton? She's all talk when not with the women but when she's in the mix? She'll lob a bomb and then fade away.

I think that because all of this was happening in real time while they were filming and they were learning new things every day, most of the women made a calculation based on how they perceived things might go in terms of the audience in relation to Erika and them.

Things they thought they knew going in:
Up until this season Erika was very popular - not universally loved, but generally popular and at the least respected by those who didn't love her (for her supposed straight-shooting ways)

Several of them (especially Rinna) had taken a beating in the past few years for not being good friends to VDP (who I personally cannot stand) and Denise - so they perhaps wanted to play it differently this time around

So I think they weighed things up, and since several of them aren't super smart, they decided to go all in on supporting Erika. I think where Sutton differs from the others is that she is pretty comfortable in her life and who she is. Sure she wants to be successful on the show, but it doesn't drive everything for her as it does for Kyle, Rinna, etc. And Dorit, while not a favorite of mine, was quicker than the others in beginning to see how this would all read to the viewing public. I think that's why she's backing up a bit and questioning Erika.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Pop Tart

[JonnieUniteUs]

9 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I’m about to really lose my s- - - on all of you- -

Don’t do it. Nope.

Hahahahaha!

Thankfully when she said that👆 She wasn’t wearing this👇 💩

[eXiled]

This ep was all about the food for me. Moments after I ate my imaginary lunch with Dorit and PK (who was speaking nothing but truth about that grifter Erika Jayne) we moved on to Garcelle and her Haitian feast. I loved that everything was mini or bite-sized so a girl like me can sample everything while watching her figure! I salute both Dorit and Garcelle for their yummy-looking spreads! Only thing missing? Pancake cake!

Speaking of these two, I don't mind the gentle shade between Dorit and Garcelle as long as it remains just that: gentle. People don't always have to agree, but I don't want it to become an all-out war.

These bitches are faker than the Fucci fashions howives of other franchises try to pass off as the real thing. Stay strong, Sutton. Stay on point. Stay focused. Stay expensive.

[byrd]

11 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She’s a liar she’s admitted to lying why would anyone trust anything from that point on that comes out of her mouth? Nothing she says can be trusted. She’s a bully she’s a lair and she’s a conwoman 

When did she admit to lying ?   

Edited September 9, 2021 by byrd

[Keywestclubkid]

12 minutes ago, byrd said:

When did she admit to lying ?   

Well the first big one that is making EVERYONE confused is Tom and his accident .. she changed the story 10 times now ... Now hes gonna be in a car that flipped 6 times ... You cant say oh what I told you the first time didn't really happen without admitting you lied the first time ...she is gonna be raked across the coals in court being on tape changing her story so often it will show the Jury she is untrustworthy

Edited September 9, 2021 by Keywestclubkid

[Cosmocrush]

13 hours ago, chick binewski said:

Air "italics"?

Hahahaha!  I loved it.  Dumb Dumb Dorit. 

Also the 1985 bank teller look she wore to Garcelle's house at least matched the makeup.  Did her glam team take the night off and her toddlers filled in for them? 

[byrd]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Well the first big one that is making EVERYONE confused is Tom and his accident .. she changed the story 10 times now ... Now hes gonna be in a car that flipped 6 times ... You cant say oh that's not what really what i told you happened this is without admitting you lied the first time ...she is gonna be raked across the coals in court being on tape changing her story so often it will show the Jury she is untrustworthy

What I heard her say is that he did break his ankle, as well as the head injury , I just kind of feel that Erick just did not reveal all the details of his injuries for whatever reason. I don't think she was lying , just being evasive with details. She did not tell anyone about the accident when it happened. I am sure there are reasons why she did not share the information sooner.  Ericka was under Tom's thumb . I feel there is a difference  in what you chose to reveal rather that lying.  

[blixie]

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taking Erika's side after witnessing such atrocious behavior 

And after reading the LA Times (which understood as well as Sutton)  and continues to justify Erika at every turn, up to including minimizing Me Too issues to prop up siding with Erika, mostly because Erika is in conflict with Sutton who she doesn't like. It's gross she absolutely deserves the criticism, especially given that unlike Rinna Erika has not dirt on her, she's just happy to excuse a bully out of dislike for Sutton because awkward is worse than fighting to keep the money/gifts from the orphans.  Fuck Crystal not forever and always but certainly for her accumulated display since the LA times reveal.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, byrd said:

 I just kind of feel that Erick just did not reveal all the details of his injuries for whatever reason.

She lied there is no way he had all those injury's and went to work right after like she said he did ... That looks even worse that she "withholds" the truth .. again a good lawyer will point that out to a jury that she hides events and things .. still points to her being untrustworthy ... She is doing herself no favors being on this show contradicting herself all over the place .. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Keywestclubkid

[stacyasp]

13 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

Which is embarassing, that they'll need that. But they probably will.

Why is so hard for them to admit Erikas story don’t add up!  She’s lying and she’s more concerned about being called a liar than knowing that 20 million she spent on hair, make-up, buying venues to perform her shitty no talent can’t sing shows ...should have gone to people for a traumatic event that was life changing for them!

[Mar]

55 minutes ago, blixie said:

agree but then, what's Crystal's excuse? I will say I am really looking forward to the reunion where all these women backtrack like a mofo, but that assumes Andy isn't in Erika's hip catsuit pocket. Asshole.

Whereas Real Housewives of New York City is going to barely be able to dredge up one reunion episode, I think we need about a six-part reunion for this season of Beverly Hills. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

19 minutes ago, blixie said:

And after reading the LA Times (which understood as well as Sutton)  and continues to justify Erika at every turn, up to including minimizing Me Too issues to prop up siding with Erika, mostly because Erika is in conflict with Sutton who she doesn't like. It's gross she absolutely deserves the criticism, especially given that unlike Rinna Erika has not dirt on her, she's just happy to excuse a bully out of dislike for Sutton because awkward is worse than fighting to keep the money/gifts from the orphans.  Fuck Crystal not forever and always but certainly for her accumulated display since the LA times reveal.

I didn't say she doesn't deserve criticism. IMO, she does. I don't like her defense of Erika, which I think mostly comes from the fact that Chrystal had conflict with Sutton earlier in the season and from the fact that right now most of the other women are sticking with Erika. But I do think she's very much a minor player in all of it, and as such, I think some of the focus on her is a bit overstated. But that doesn't mean that I think she's right to defend Erika. She isn't, IMO. 

[Thumper]

9 hours ago, Mar said:

https://ew.com/tv/recaps/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-season-11-episode-16/
 

great recap of tonight’s episode!

Loved this recap!  
 

About Garcelle’s dinner: (Bolding is mine) 😂😂😂

“The place looks amazing, the food looks even better, and these women really do not deserve it! Well, mostly just Rinna who keeps exclaiming that she "actually ate fish," like she deserves a reward when she had the nerve to scold Garcelle earlier for not texting her a second thank you for the time that Harry served her pasta in a Fiestaware bowl.”

[CatMomma]

15 minutes ago, byrd said:

What I heard her say is that he did break his ankle, as well as the head injury , I just kind of feel that Erick just did not reveal all the details of his injuries for whatever reason. I don't think she was lying , just being evasive with details. She did not tell anyone about the accident when it happened. I am sure there are reasons why she did not share the information sooner.  Ericka was under Tom's thumb . I feel there is a difference  in what you chose to reveal rather that lying.  

But, her story is that he was driving, went off a cliff by the house, suffered multiple injuries, was unconscious for 12 hours, then she found him. Wait, no. He called her for help.  HER. Not 911. She also didn't wonder why he was missing because he was having an affair.

She didn't admit to lying. But, that is one hell of a story. A man in his 80's drove off a cliff, had a head injury and was out for 12 hours. When he finally woke up (from his head injury) he called Erika. Maybe. Or, she found him. 

Those aren't lies by omission. When someone is telling the truth, their story doesn't change. 

 

[CatMomma]

6 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I didn't say she doesn't deserve criticism. IMO, she does. I don't like her defense of Erika, which I think mostly comes from the fact that Chrystal had conflict with Sutton earlier in the season and from the fact that right now most of the other women are sticking with Erika. But I do think she's very much a minor player in all of it, and as such, I think some of the focus on her is a bit overstated. But that doesn't mean that I think she's right to defend Erika. She isn't, IMO. 

I'm just disappointed in her. She seemed to be level headed. I loved that she did not back down with Sutton, even when everyone seemed against her. 

I was really hoping she would call out this bullshit, too. 

I think a lot of viewers were hoping the same thing. Fair? Nope, but I think that's where a lot of the criticism is coming from. 

[janiema]

13 minutes ago, CatMomma said:

But, her story is that he was driving, went off a cliff by the house, suffered multiple injuries, was unconscious for 12 hours, then she found him. Wait, no. He called her for help.  HER. Not 911. She also didn't wonder why he was missing because he was having an affair.

She didn't admit to lying. But, that is one hell of a story. A man in his 80's drove off a cliff, had a head injury and was out for 12 hours. When he finally woke up (from his head injury) he called Erika. Maybe. Or, she found him. 

Those aren't lies by omission. When someone is telling the truth, their story doesn't change. 

 

And, of course, there’s no record of this accident anywhere. If his ankle was treated by a hospital or doctor, did they miss any other damage? They probably cannot comment due to HIPAA but are they required to inform the police?

[chlban]

1 hour ago, byrd said:

What I heard her say is that he did break his ankle, as well as the head injury , I just kind of feel that Erick just did not reveal all the details of his injuries for whatever reason. I don't think she was lying , just being evasive with details. She did not tell anyone about the accident when it happened. I am sure there are reasons why she did not share the information sooner.  Ericka was under Tom's thumb . I feel there is a difference  in what you chose to reveal rather that lying.  

Under Tom's thumb on a reality show, know for it's embarrassment factor,  posing like a porn star on social media and strutting around almost naked on stage. Yeah, that really sounds like a woman under a man's thumb.

[Baltimore Betty]

19 minutes ago, janiema said:

And, of course, there’s no record of this accident anywhere.

Not even a tow truck operator, one would need one to retrieve the car that flipped 47 times down a 500 foot cliff behind their house.  

Erika knows these women smell her BS, she is dancing as fast as she can to deflect, Sutton is the target so now all the women are talking about Sutton and not her.

 

[sistermagpie]

2 hours ago, blixie said:

I agree but then, what's Crystal's excuse? I will say I am really looking forward to the reunion where all these women backtrack like a mofo, but that assumes Andy isn't in Erika's hip catsuit pocket. Asshole.

 

1 hour ago, Lassus said:

I swear I definitely watched this whole episode but I didn't realize Crystal said much of anything to anyone.  I must have missed something because she's certainly getting a lot of Gunvalson-level hate here and she strikes me as more of a cipher.

It looked to me like Crystal, in her bubble on the show, sees Erika as the winning side so chimed in to say she admired how she defended herself, since that's what most of the women are saying. So this was a time when it seemed like she and Sutton got tested and Crystal failed by siding with power without really caring about the truth and Sutton passed with flying colors by refusing to apologize for Erika being a bad liar.

1 hour ago, byrd said:

When did she admit to lying ?   

When she announced her divorce she claimed all those years she was saying they had a great marriage and Tom was nice to her, that she was actually miserable, trying to make money to get away from him but couldn't, that he was cold and not supportive etc. So her whole storyline was that everything she'd led everyone to believe about her life wasn't true.

And nobody would hold that against her if she was just really in an abusive relationship and too afraid or ashamed to admit it, but she can't say that, then follow it up with saying that the time she said her husband had a minor car accident and broke his ankle and was acting like a baby about it she was actually covering up major head trauma and a coma that would make it impossible to act like anything--and then pretend her honor has been besmirched when someone points out that sometimes Erika says things--like for years--and then claims they weren't true. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by sistermagpie

[Cosmocrush]

13 hours ago, Thumper said:

Yeah, I’m sure Kathy Hilton had “another appointment” the day of Garcelle’s dinner!  I wouldn’t want to see that group either.  lol

Strange that she didn't even bother to let Garcelle know though.  

[Pi237]

“That’s not a threat-it’s a Promise!” Is So sixth grade🤣 and everyone knows it’s the same damn thing.  I wish, when Erika said “you want to get sued?!”  Sutton would’ve replied “Go ahead and sue me. I have lawyers too, and mine don’t steal from me!”

 

[Vanderboom]

12 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I really don't blame Sutton for crying - at least she waited until she had left the table.  I can't imagine anyone who would not have started crying when faced with the she-devil, Erika.  Regardless of what we say here, Erika is an intimidating person.  Her height, stature and size, along with her bitchiness and coldness is enough to intimidate anyone, and her threats and nasty words just add to it.  I agree, Sutton is brave, at least she had the nerve and backbone to say what she's thinking to Erika.

I'm an angry cryer, so I know how frustrating it is to burst into tears when you want to hulk out in rage. I hope Garcelle and Sutton (and Dorit, to a lesser extent) resist the pressure to coddle Erika.

 

11 hours ago, lawrbk said:

That really did it for me. Crystal is underwater with me on her approval rating. I’ve gone back and forth on her but was disgusted she congratulated Erika on her response to Sutton. 

Crystal should be embarrassed by her toadying. She was in the right in her earlier conflicts with Sutton, and she should recognize the playbook Erika is using because Sutton used it against her; force dramatic confrontation, then deflect and play victim to dodge accountability. She's so eager to sit with the Cool Kids at Sutton's expense that she ignores Erika's lies, threats, and inconsistencies. Not a good look!

 

7 hours ago, gingerella said:

So, how could Erika threaten - sorry PROMISE - that Tom would sue Sutton for talking shit about Erika if Tom has, yanno, dementia and doesn't know what's going on, on account of his car accident where he rolled his car and then was thrown from the car while also crawling out of the car while also calling Erika for help but also laying in a coma for 12 hours? I'm just sorta curious about that...

Seems like she's used to leveraging Tom's reputation to rain destruction on her enemies. Or at least threaten promise to.

[CatMomma]

32 minutes ago, janiema said:

And, of course, there’s no record of this accident anywhere. If his ankle was treated by a hospital or doctor, did they miss any other damage? They probably cannot comment due to HIPAA but are they required to inform the police?

If someone drove off a cliff and an ambulance was called, then yes. The police are absolutely called to investigate. 

So, I guess I see 3 possibilities. 1: Erika is lying. 2: Erika is a comic book super hero who dragged Tom up a cliff, made the car disappear, and nursed all of his wounds without medical help or 3:the police threw out the report so there was no record.

I'm going with 1. 3 is a possibility, though I doubt it. 

 

 

[bencr]

1 hour ago, byrd said:

Ericka was under Tom's thumb . 

Even P. T. Barnum , who said there's a sucker born every minute, couldn't fool the people with Erika's story.

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by bencr

[Cosmocrush]

18 hours ago, njbchlover said:

It cracked me up when the chef asked Rinna if she had ever been to Haiti.  Rinna's reply - "No, but I've been to the Bahamas."  World of difference there, Rinna!!!  I wish these women would have done some reading up on Haiti's recent history

I've never been to Haiti or the Bahamas  but I've been to Haitian restaurants here (Seattle)  and actually eaten the food unlike Rinna.   I'm sure there are a few in L.A. as well but Rinna isn't an eater.  By the way, I noticed foodie Crystal's face lit up at the idea of authentic Haitian food, which was cool.  Also, conch is a practically a staple in Florida restaurants. 

The women who can't be bothered to read a story in the LA Times aren't going to read up on Haiti.  I bet Rinna can't even find it on a map. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[oakville]

16 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika thanks for showing the world the real you. The nasty vile person you were trying to hide to play victim. 

I doubt Erika's lawyers are happy with her performance on the show.

[bichonblitz]

3 hours ago, SassyCat said:

Then there the ever inappropriate screaming  bell ringing, dancing asshole at the dinner table Lisa Rinna. A loud and obnoxious guest, no matter what gathering she is at.

Perfect description of Rinna. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I've been to the Bahamas and I've had conch fritters. And they are good! Basically, conch to me is like clams or muscles or even soft-shelled crabs - they're just another shellfish. So if you like shellfish, you are probably going to like conch.

I wasn't particularly interested in hearing about Dorit's first date with PK (though good on her for catching the vibe that she was getting a little long-winded). But I would have liked to know more about the kind of food her parents cooked!