The View: Week of 6/21/2021

[falltime]

Monday, June 21 – Drew Barrymore (“Drew” magazine); “View Your Deal” with hottest items at affordable prices

Tuesday, June 22 – The Political View with Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.); once homeless track-stars, the Sheppard sisters, make a return visit to “The View”(“Sisters on Track”)

Wednesday, June 23 – Day of Hot Topics

Thursday, June 24 – Leslie Odom Jr.

Friday, June 25 – Sinéad O’Connor (“Rememberings”); Margaret Cho (“Good on Paper”)

[Bronzedog]

Not Drew Barrymore!  Make it stop!

[tableau vivant]

Ecchhh!  Drew Barrymore ?  Thanks, but no thanks.

She'll be promoting "Drew Magazine" ?  She thinks she's Oprah now ? 

The last self-indulgent talk show host to try to imitate Oprah with her own magazine was Rosie when she took over 'McCall's'. And we all know how that turned out before the magazine ink had a chance to dry. 

Please, EPs...book some INTERESTING guests for a change !

[TheGreenKnight]

Love Val Demings! Same with Cho, and I like Barrymore fine. *shrug*

[RealHousewife]

Drew is a sweet person, but I'm surprised she's coming out with a magazine. I loved magazines when I was younger, but with so much stuff being online, I only buy them if I'm traveling now. Anyone else still have subscriptions? 

I've also noticed the price of magazines has gone way up from when I'd grab one at Barnes or wherever. Paperback books are around the same, but lots of magazines cost several bucks or more. 

[Haleth]

Does Drew still have a talk show?  Is the magazine an additional venture or a replacement?

Love, love Val Demings. It is my greatest hope that she will be successful in her Senate bid.

Love, love Leslie Odom Jr. He could sing the phone book and I’d listen for hours. 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Haleth

[sugarbaker design]

13 hours ago, Haleth said:

Does Drew still have a talk show?  

Yes.

[ForumLou]

oh what wacky hijinks are we in for this week?

[HerkyJerky]

That depends on whether MeAgain has taken her meds or not!😏

[Axie]

Meghan, ain't no way none of your millions of friends have ever had an abortion. Just saying.

[BuckeyeLou]

Oh Good Grief: Megan states "Abortion is Murder"...goes on her Rant about being a "Pro-Lifer"...attacking Pres. Biden for his support of abortion rights...Arggg

[Axie]

Meghan must have been warned about interrupting people because Joy and Whoopie are both talking longer than they ever have.

[Haleth]

Meg, “grace” and “compassion” are not in your vocabulary. (As evidenced by your abortion = murder stance.)

People will quickly get over cave syndrome once they start to get out more. I spent the weekend in Chicago and it was almost back to normal. Crowds everywhere, few masks being warn. It was ok. 

[Tammy12]

Drew gives even Meghan a run for her money in long windedness 

[2JEWELL]

Drew Barrymore cast herself as one of the Angels when she produced Charlie’s Angels. She may not be as big of an asshole as MeAgain, but her sense of self importance is just as large.  I’ve only ever liked her one movie- and it wasn’t ET

[Picture It. Sicily]

11 minutes ago, 2JEWELL said:

Drew Barrymore cast herself as one of the Angels when she produced Charlie’s Angels. She may not be as big of an asshole as MeAgain, but her sense of self importance is just as large.  I’ve only ever liked her one movie- and it wasn’t ET

She's an actress. Why wouldn't she cast herself? 

[Axie]

I feel you, Whoopie.  Sciatica isn't fun.

If anyone ever wants time to stand still and The Rachel Ray Show isn't on, watch Drew's show because OMG it's boring.

Edited June 21, 2021 by Axie

[HerkyJerky]

You would think that since Drew has her own talk show that she should know that the perfect guest would be succinct and concise. LOL 

[TheGreenKnight]

I’ve always thought Drew Barrymore seemed really sweet? I think of her more for her comedy films, although I always loved Ever After with her and Anjelica Huston. I’m surprised to see she's controversial. Oh, well. I don’t watch her show though. It’s nothing against her, I’ve just never been determined enough to keep up with fluff shows, even when I like the host (same way with Kelly, Ellen, Queen Latifah, The Real, etc.). Those types of shows I only see when I happen to catch them at random rather than seek them out like I do with this show for Joy.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Meghan, Please do Take a HEAPING DOSE of STFU and chew slowly and swallow.

[2JEWELL]

58 minutes ago, Picture It. Sicily said:

She's an actress. Why wouldn't she cast herself? 

It wasn’t the action of casting herself,  it was the project she chose that bugged me.

[Clawdel]

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

Meg, “grace” and “compassion” are not in your vocabulary. (As evidenced by your abortion = murder stance.)

As a Catholic, I'd like to invite The Princess of Arizona to STFU. I'd like to add something even more crude, but in the interests of grace, I'll leave it at that. 

 

[ifionlyknew]

So Meghan says as a pro lifer she fights for the rights of the unborn. 

No you stupid twit. You are fighting to take away the rights of women you don't know.  Mind your own business.

[AryasMum]

1 hour ago, 2JEWELL said:

Drew Barrymore cast herself as one of the Angels when she produced Charlie’s Angels. She may not be as big of an asshole as MeAgain, but her sense of self importance is just as large.  I’ve only ever liked her one movie- and it wasn’t ET

It’s not an uncommon tactic. Katharine Hepburn famously procured the rights to, The Philadelphia Story, in order to play the starring role. She had been declared box office poison, and her move revitalized her career. 

[Pearson80]

The ladies except Me-again were awesome in talking about abortion rights President Biden and the importance of the separation of church and state.  The Catholic church is just something else, I would think with everything going on in the world, they would have other things to worry about and like Joy said they are just using culture wars in order to maintain their power. 

[bannana]

This article points out that MeAgain doesn't know what she is talking about.

https://jezebel.com/meghan-mccain-and-her-ponytail-are-very-concerned-about-1847141378

Another good one.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2021/06/just-the-worst-im-sorry-but-she-is-internet-slams-meghan-mccain-for-claiming-biden-doing-grave-spiritual-harm/

[After7Only]

9 minutes ago, ifionlyknew said:

So Meghan says as a pro lifer she fights for the rights of the unborn. 

What got me is that she also said fighting for the rights of the unborn is as old as the Catholic church itself......  I don't think St. Peter had much to say about the unborn....  But she seems to forget a what he (and Jesus) says about how to treat the poor and those with less privilege.     

What I hate about this current format with MM involved is that everyone just states their spiel and there is very little direct interaction.  Like they could have all taped their spiels separately last week and we wouldn't tell the difference.   I realize it's because MM does not know how to discuss anything without attacking or feeling attacked.    

 

[Rainyhawk]

7 minutes ago, bannana said:

This article points out that MeAgain doesn't know what she is talking about.

https://jezebel.com/meghan-mccain-and-her-ponytail-are-very-concerned-about-1847141378

Another good one.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2021/06/just-the-worst-im-sorry-but-she-is-internet-slams-meghan-mccain-for-claiming-biden-doing-grave-spiritual-harm/

The second really nails it…especially the various tweets that pull no punches.  Loved the one that pointed out if, should they get to the pearly gates, she and Ben will have to answer for the fact that they seem to support white supremacists(I guess ben gets funding from one).   Also, I’m curious as one article said she can’t give a sermon in her church so what religion does she follow?  Haven’t ever heard what church she attends.  

[AryasMum]

11 minutes ago, bannana said:

This article points out that MeAgain doesn't know what she is talking about.

https://jezebel.com/meghan-mccain-and-her-ponytail-are-very-concerned-about-1847141378

Another good one.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2021/06/just-the-worst-im-sorry-but-she-is-internet-slams-meghan-mccain-for-claiming-biden-doing-grave-spiritual-harm/

Good articles, but I’m extremely disappointed that Jezebel used the term, “Pro-abortion”.  

[bannana]

I found MeAgain's comments really quite offensive today, and I know that is not saying much based on her record of offending. 

What bothered me is that she spouted religious views as if they were the law or something. Who is she to say Biden is going to have reconcile his views/actions with his "creator".  Is she now some kind of religious zealot? Cause that doesn't jibe with her shootin', drinkin', cursin', gamblling bad-ass persona. 

MeAgain knows that Whoopi has had an abortion so every time she says it is murder she is accusing Whoopi of murder. She's lucky that Whoopi was probably on some pretty strong drugs for her pain; otherwise I think we would have seen Whoopi react a lot more strongly.

It was also quite offensive to say that Biden "claims" to be a devout Catholic. The implication is that he is not. Her contempt for Joe Biden is the most baffling thing. She didn't have this kind of contempt for the previous President who personally attacked her family.

[ifionlyknew]

1 minute ago, Rainyhawk said:

 Haven’t ever heard what church she attends.  

As far as I can tell she doesn't attend any. I have never once heard  her say she goes to church. One doesn't have to attend church to be religious but Meghan hasn't even said what denomination she considers herself to be part of.

[Rainyhawk]

Also loved Whoopie response at the end of the abortion discussion pointing out how these same people don’t seem to care about the kids that are born who live in poverty or have no parents, are in foster care, etc.  They only care about the fetus and, once it’s born, it’s not so important any more.  That needs to be said every time these conversations occur.  
 

just googled her religion and found this…she’s supposedly now very faith oriented??  It says he’s Anglican which is basically the Church of England..didn’t think Americans belonged to that particular church here but would instead identify as Episcopalians. If so, Episcopalians are some of the most progressive church goers, so that just doesn’t jibe. 
https://www.faithwire.com/2019/10/30/meghan-mccain-opens-up-about-faith-how-her-husbands-christianity-has-drawn-her-closer-to-god/

Edited June 21, 2021 by Rainyhawk

[Pearson80]

13 minutes ago, bannana said:

I found MeAgain's comments really quite offensive today, and I know that is not saying much based on her record of offending. 

What bothered me is that she spouted religious views as if they were the law or something. Who is she to say Biden is going to have reconcile his views/actions with his "creator".  Is she now some kind of religious zealot? Cause that doesn't jibe with her shootin', drinkin', cursin', gamblling bad-ass persona. 

MeAgain knows that Whoopi has had an abortion so every time she says it is murder she is accusing Whoopi of murder. She's lucky that Whoopi was probably on some pretty strong drugs for her pain; otherwise I think we would have seen Whoopi react a lot more strongly.

It was also quite offensive to say that Biden "claims" to be a devout Catholic. The implication is that he is not. Her contempt for Joe Biden is the most baffling thing. She didn't have this kind of contempt for the previous President who personally attacked her family.

She is disgusting and I wanted to reach into the television set and slap her hard.   Who is she to judge someone else's faith in God. MeAgain's hatred of Joe Biden given her history with him has left me confused and I don't understand it at all.. I doubt even MeAgain can articulate her reasons for hating him so much. 

Edited June 21, 2021 by Pearson80

[ifionlyknew]

4 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

. I doubt even MeAgain can articulate her reasons for hating him so much. 

He beat her team. I really think it is that simple.

[pinguina]

Regarding President Biden's "stance" on abortion/MM's sudden preaching against abortion -

When did MM become an expert on spiritual matters specifically the Catholic faith?  I was offended by her words.  We are not a country founded in religious tenets but on the rights of its citizen and includes separation of Church and State.  President Biden cannot (and should not) force his own personal religious beliefs on the country (although it seems that some Republicans think they can, apparently MM included)

What President Biden believes personally and actually practices (eg. if HE got pregnant he would not get an abortion) and his representing the people he has sworn to serve (all Americans) are not really in conflict.  I personally believe that abortion is wrong, my faith (I am Catholic) says that if I am asked about something that I believe is wrong I must in good faith share my opinion.  I had a friend years ago who was pregnant and not in the best place to have a baby.  She asked me what I would do, I answered I would not have one.  She really thought about and went on to have an abortion.  I did not condemn her nor judge her (that is NOT my place) and she continued to be my friend until we went on to separate places in our lives.  So unless every single woman who is contemplating an abortion comes up to me and asks my opinion, it is NONE of my business.  I also believe that God gave us free will, we are in charge of the choices we make in our lives (I've made wrong choices/decisions and regret quite a few, others were lessons in life, some a test of my beliefs).  FREE WILL - meaning we are in charge of our choices which includes our bodies.  So if God can give us and trust us with the ability to choose what to do with our bodies why can't some GOP's and right wing people?

I hope I did not go off topic.

[RealHousewife]

19 minutes ago, bannana said:

I found MeAgain's comments really quite offensive today, and I know that is not saying much based on her record of offending. 

What bothered me is that she spouted religious views as if they were the law or something. Who is she to say Biden is going to have reconcile his views/actions with his "creator".  Is she now some kind of religious zealot? Cause that doesn't jibe with her shootin', drinkin', cursin', gamblling bad-ass persona. 

MeAgain knows that Whoopi has had an abortion so every time she says it is murder she is accusing Whoopi of murder. She's lucky that Whoopi was probably on some pretty strong drugs for her pain; otherwise I think we would have seen Whoopi react a lot more strongly.

It was also quite offensive to say that Biden "claims" to be a devout Catholic. The implication is that he is not. Her contempt for Joe Biden is the most baffling thing. She didn't have this kind of contempt for the previous President who personally attacked her family.

All this. One of my pet peeves is when folks spout their religious views as law. Those are YOUR believes sweetie. 

It's really disgusting Meghan constantly accuses Whoopi of murder. 

Meghan talks about Biden as if he's personally wronged her. It's really bizarre. It almost reminds me of a romantic relationship where she was so fond of him when she thought he treated her well (comforted her during her time of grief). Then he "cheated" on her (beat her team as @ifionlyknew said), and now she hates his guts.

Meghan always talks about having all these friends who are so different from her. When she was single, she even said she'd date men who have different politics. How can her friends who've had abortions feel comfortable being close to her? Without going into my own politics, I am not political the way Meghan is, and I don't even date men who have opposite ideology of me. It's annoying enough getting into debates with coworkers, acquaintances, and such. I do NOT want it in my own home. How the heck did Meghan date democrats when she lives and breathes politics and thinks so much of the country is full of baby killers or hate America or whatever? Does arguing politics get her off? I'm not even kidding. She has so much, but she's SO angry when a lot of the issues that get her worked up will never affect her. Another thing that annoys me is she talks a lot about how the left doesn't understand right-wingers and portrays them all as bad people, but she spews so much ugliness about the left. Does she ever put herself in the shoes of a young woman without much money or emotional support? Has she ever thought how much harder pregnancy and child birth is for women who've had sexual trauma? Many struggle with eating disorders and want to disappear, the last thing they want to be is pregnant. Has she ever considered some women and girls couldn't handle pregnancy and motherhood the way she could for a plethora of reasons? Sounds like she just writes them off as horrible people to me, and she forgets vast majority of American women do not have her level of privilege. 

[Picture It. Sicily]

I don't want to hear what the catholic church has to say about any damn thing as long as we continue to uncover their mass graves at residential schools (Canada), Magdalene (slave labor) laundries and homes for unwed mothers (Ireland) filled with babies and children and keep hearing about priest being bounced from parish to parish to cover up their child rapes (Boston, Philly, everywhere else).

Edited June 21, 2021 by Picture It. Sicily

[kitkat68]

40 minutes ago, ifionlyknew said:

As far as I can tell she doesn't attend any. I have never once heard  her say she goes to church. One doesn't have to attend church to be religious but Meghan hasn't even said what denomination she considers herself to be part of.

I know she's said she went to Catholic School, but I've never heard her come out and say she was Catholic, or any other denomination. Perhaps she feels she's an expert on Catholicism since she attended their school? Who knows...

[tinkerbell]

The problem with Meghan's judgmental stance on abortion is that she has obviously never been i the place where she was so desperate that she contemplated ending a pregnancy.  A girl or woman being pregnant by rape;  a disabled woman not understanding pregnancy, a woman who needs medical treatment to save her life, but cannot have the treatment because she's pregnant; a woman pregnant with a baby with a severe defect that would mean no brain function; a woman who has no financial means to support a baby - these are all situations in which a woman would CONSIDER ending the pregnancy.  but if abortion is illegal, it's not just that she can't have an abortion, it's that she cannot even CONSIDER it - she has no option.  

That is the thing Meghan doesn't understand.  When in a difficult situation, women need to have the power, to make the choice that suits their circumstances.  The choice can be to continue with the pregnancy, or to end it.  there is a huge difference between carrying on with a pregnancy because you choose to and doing so because you are forced to.  Women need to be able to make these tough decisions. It's easy for someone like MEghan to say that in any of these situations, she would choose to have the baby.  Good for her.  but she's never actually HAD to make that choice. 

[ifionlyknew]

44 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

The problem with Meghan's judgmental stance on abortion is that she has obviously never been i the place where she was so desperate that she contemplated ending a pregnancy.

This is part of her narcissism.  Since she says she would never have an abortion then she doesn't think any woman should have one.  She said something today which was a word salad but I interpreted it as when people say if you don't believe in abortion then simply don't have one. And she said for someone who thinks it's murder they can't understand that.    Meghan let me break it down for you.  I can't understand your love of guns. I won't own one but I can't stop you from owning one.  See how easy that was. You get to live your life the way you want. Now please afford all of us the same courtesy.  

[catlover79]

It's not so much what Meghan says, but how she says it. At least the other four ladies gave their viewpoints in a calm way. Even if one doesn't agree with everything they say, at least they are respectful of others. 

Whoopi, I think you meant to say "a total 180", not 360. Joy, I think you mean "fully vaxxed", not "double vaxxed".

I'm glad they brought up "cave syndrome". I have suffered from anxiety for as long as I can remember, so I was suffering from this syndrome way before the pandemic. It's nice to see this condition get mainstream attention.

Edited June 21, 2021 by catlover79

[Vanderboom]

1 hour ago, kitkat68 said:

Perhaps she feels she's an expert on Catholicism since she attended their school? Who knows...

That's the problem.  Meghan feels she is an expert on so many things because she has a tangential relationship with them.  It's as if I declared myself a wine expert because my mom's garden includes grapes.  The result is a shallow and ill-informed self-absorption that prevents her from speaking about these topics with sincerity or insight.  Meghan and Her Friends For Every Issue may judge Biden, but as so many people have said, he's President of the United (and Not Necessarily Religious) States.  It would be inappropriate and unconstitutional for Biden to impose his religious beliefs on others. 

I also love how the Bishops are so upset over something relatively tame.  It's not as if Biden was proposing new pro-choice laws or anything; they're mad at him for . . . not being as against it as they think he should be.

[Sharper2002]

2 hours ago, ifionlyknew said:

He beat her team. I really think it is that simple.

I agree. I was also thinking because her hubby strongly suggests she should.

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

It's really disgusting Meghan constantly accuses Whoopi of murder. 

And if Whoopi lays into MeAgain, I bet she’s the one who has to apologize. 

I wish someone could ask MeAgain to quote (without referencing) her favorite verse in the Bible. Because for her to be such an authority on who is more faithful, I’m willing to bet she’s barely read it. Has she studied it? Interpreted and debated the meanings behind the stories? No, because she doesn’t strike me as a person who possesses an iota of intellectual curiosity. 

[Badbea99]

If memory serves me correctly, I believe MeAgain has stated her family was/is Baptist.  I have never heard her reference attending church. That would interfere with her love of guns, whiskey and selfie taking.

I also recall her stating several times on the show during the past several years that Ben and his family are Evangelical.  I'll leave it at that.

Her comments regarding President Biden are despicable.  The man has been nothing but kind and loving to her.  She tweeted last year that he was the only person who helped calm her down when MyFather was passing; she stated neither her mother nor Ben could console her as she was shaking, etc.  I thought at the time that she should be consoling her mother and trying to keep her emotions in check as his death was not unexpected but then again, she's nothing but consistent and had to make it all about her and her feelings.

Not to go off topic, but I hope the man whom she has vilified in every way imaginable since he beat her team (and we all know her little brain can only comprehend wins and losses), doesn't reward any member of her family with a position that will enable this bitch to fuel her sense of superiority and entitlement.  It's all just exhausting.

 

[tableau vivant]

2 hours ago, kitkat68 said:

I know she's said she went to Catholic School, but I've never heard her come out and say she was Catholic, or any other denomination. Perhaps she feels she's an expert on Catholicism since she attended their school? Who knows...

Yes, she went to Catholic schools (which teaches Catholocism to their students). I believe she once said her mother was raised Catholic, and she followed her mother's religion. 

The Jo Biden hot topic was a complete non-issue, never mind non-hot topic. It was really a 'who cares' discussion. I DVR'd  the show, so I was lucky enough to FF through Drew Barrymore. But I got to enjoy VYD over and over and over again, thanks to my rewind button ! 

[RealHousewife]

5 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I’ve always thought Drew Barrymore seemed really sweet? I think of her more for her comedy films, although I always loved Ever After with her and Anjelica Huston. I’m surprised to see she's controversial. 

I didn't know many folks disliked he either. I don't follow her closely, just thought she was known to be one of the nicest actresses. 

[deirdra]

7 hours ago, Axie said:

Meghan, ain't no way none of your millions of friends have ever had an abortion. Just saying.

Her supposed (in MM's mind) BFF Amber Tamblyn was even on the View discussing her abortion a couple of years ago.

MM's favourite things to do in LA were to party w/girlfriends, get wasted, and 'date' a variety of men. The common recipe for unplanned pregnancy.  Her rich friends would have D&C's in lieu of abortions.

Edited June 21, 2021 by deirdra

[Mldyold]

4 hours ago, Picture It. Sicily said:

I don't want to hear what the catholic church has to say about any damn thing as long as we continue to uncover their mass graves at residential schools (Canada), Magdalene (slave labor) laundries and homes for unwed mothers (Ireland) filled with babies and children and keep hearing about priest being bounced from parish to parish to cover up their child rapes (Boston, Philly, everywhere else).

Amen! 

I find it hard to believe that Ms. McCain was Polly Pureheart during her single years.  I do think that once she became married she reinvented herself into the perfect political wife that her husband would adore.  I quickly muted her as she was honking about President Biden's faith as I find her judging opinions just another facet of her ignorance.

As for Drew, I caught a couple of segments of various shows and it appeared too juvenile to have a long run.  She falls out of her chair onto the floor over a comment a guest makes, fawns too much over her guests and sometimes her clothing or accessories are over the top.  More like a high school production than a grown woman hosting a talk show.  She is enjoyable in a movie just not an hour every day unscripted. JMHO

 

[Axie]

8 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I’ve always thought Drew Barrymore seemed really sweet? I think of her more for her comedy films, although I always loved Ever After with her and Anjelica Huston. I’m surprised to see she's controversial. Oh, well. I don’t watch her show though. It’s nothing against her, I’ve just never been determined enough to keep up with fluff shows, even when I like the host (same way with Kelly, Ellen, Queen Latifah, The Real, etc.). Those types of shows I only see when I happen to catch them at random rather than seek them out like I do with this show for Joy.

I don't dislike Drew Barrymore.  I just don't think she's as interesting as she thinks she is.

[babyhouseman]

Drew used to get on my nerves. She always acted so cutesy. But I read her show biz childhood was more horrible than she let on, but she won't talk about it. Now I feel kind of sorry for her. Her family was a mess.