S08.E17: First Comes Love...

[ByTor]

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Jovi and Elvis wait for Yara at the altar; it's day 90 for Mike and Natalie; Amira reaches her breaking point with Andrew; Stephanie is ready to start over with Harris; Jovi and Yara welcome their new baby.

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[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Serious question. Has Jovi's dad been in one scene without a beer? 

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Serious question. Has Jovi's dad been in one scene without a beer? 

Serious answer:  no.

[RealReality]

Andrew is such a stereotype in nor. Cal.  So many of these guys with some weird overinflated ego who just talk so....grandiose.  

Its hard to describe it.  But like as soon as I realize I'm on a date with one its such a turnoff.  

You all will throw internet tomatoes at me but I also think that part of this can be attributed to being raised only around women who coddled him.  

He never looked more greasy and disgusting than he did this episode.  

Sounds like maybe he was sending Amira money?  Anyways, I hope she goes to school and gets it together.  

She totally dodged a bullet.  

[futurechemist]

So tonight's episode was just 1 hour, then a 1 hour baby special for Jovi and Yara?  

I'm still confused about Natalie's journey over the past 2 episodes:
1 - we're getting married tomorrow!
2 - the wedding is off! I hate you!
3 - I'm getting a hotel near SeaTac airport and flying to Europe tomorrow
4 - The hotel wouldn't take the credit card
5 - [Natalie apparently is replaced with a pod person]
6 - I have no choice but to go back to Mike
7 - Mike is such a sweet guy, I'm glad we're getting married tomorrow
8 - Generally sweet and simple wedding where the officiant makes a pointed reference to forgiveness and Uncle Beau is dressed to the nines.

[endure]

Andrew and his Mother both really bother me, I completely agree with RealReality Amira dodged a bullet.

[endure]

4 minutes ago, futurechemist said:

So tonight's episode was just 1 hour, then a 1 hour baby special for Jovi and Yara?  

I'm still confused about Natalie's journey over the past 2 episodes:
1 - we're getting married tomorrow!
2 - the wedding is off! I hate you!
3 - I'm getting a hotel near SeaTac airport and flying to Europe tomorrow
4 - The hotel wouldn't take the credit card
5 - [Natalie apparently is replaced with a pod person]
6 - I have no choice but to go back to Mike
7 - Mike is such a sweet guy, I'm glad we're getting married tomorrow
8 - Generally sweet and simple wedding where the officiant makes a pointed reference to forgiveness and Uncle Beau is dressed to the nines.

OMG what do you even see in him Natalie?  They’ve painted a horrible picture of what people are like in Washington.  Did Mike put that same old ring on her finger?

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

Harris is playing this just right. He knows what Stephanie wants, and is offering it to her.

That bitch at Jovi and Yara's wedding can fuck right off with her "year and a day" crap. Either be happy and supportive, or don't come to the wedding.

[cynicat]

FWIW, I really liked the Elvis wedding, and Yara had a great sense of humor about it.  My heart melted when Yara was so overcome by her daughter and she said something like, 'I can't believe it's possible to be so deeply in love this fast.'  I'd like to think that Jovi will become more adult and that his heart grew 3 sizes that day, but I don't hold out much hope.  He'll be back to the strip clubs as soon as Mylah starts teething.

Run Amira, run like the wind and never look back.  Andrew is one tiny step away from being a serial killer.

[EtheltoTillie]

Jovi’s mother seems great!

[steff13]

Yara looked really beautiful at the wedding.  And the Elvis wedding was fun.  I don't have high hopes for them, but I want their marriage to work out. 

Maybe Natalie and Mike deserve each other.  He's been such a douchcanoe lately, but I can't forget her calling him fat and saying he has a low IQ, etc.  Neither of them is an amazing person. 

 

[IllLitShips]

7 hours ago, RealReality said:

Andrew is such a stereotype in nor. Cal.  So many of these guys with some weird overinflated ego who just talk so....grandiose.  

Its hard to describe it.  But like as soon as I realize I'm on a date with one its such a turnoff.  

You all will throw internet tomatoes at me but I also think that part of this can be attributed to being raised only around women who coddled him.  

He never looked more greasy and disgusting than he did this episode.  

Sounds like maybe he was sending Amira money?  Anyways, I hope she goes to school and gets it together.  

She totally dodged a bullet.  

I agree with your comment about how his behavior is from being raised only by women and coddled. They're so confident and have nothing to offer,  but their moms have told them how great they are their entire lives.

 

 

 

 

[Bugfrey Von]

7 hours ago, endure said:

OMG what do you even see in him Natalie?  They’ve painted a horrible picture of what people are like in Washington.  Did Mike put that same old ring on her finger?

Yes, the same ring he insisted on her giving him back. There’s obviously a lot more to the story than we’re being given, but I think that one resounding fact is that they are both hot garbage and deserve each other. I think Natalie looked fine, but it tickles me that it looks like she’s packed on some weight after giving Mike grief about needing to lose 20 kilos. Miss fitness is barely fitting’ in this dress! A mean joke but she’s such an asshole, I cannot with her. “You look beautiful.” “I know.” Who does she think she is? Han Solo? Did he even take off his Bluetooth for the wedding? Was it his best man? Uncle Beau in a white tank top just tickled me. He gave the ceremony the gravitas it deserved.

5 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

Harris is playing this just right. He knows what Stephanie wants, and is offering it to her.

That bitch at Jovi and Yara's wedding can fuck right off with her "year and a day" crap. Either be happy and supportive, or don't come to the wedding.

Is that the same girl from the pedicure place? She has the hots for old tooths. Speaking of which, he looks like the character of Nick Birch from Big Mouth. Look it up and thank me later.

1 hour ago, cynicat said:

FWIW, I really liked the Elvis wedding, and Yara had a great sense of humor about it.  My heart melted when Yara was so overcome by her daughter and she said something like, 'I can't believe it's possible to be so deeply in love this fast.'  I'd like to think that Jovi will become more adult and that his heart grew 3 sizes that day, but I don't hold out much hope.  He'll be back to the strip clubs as soon as Mylah starts teething.

Run Amira, run like the wind and never look back.  Andrew is one tiny step away from being a serial killer.

He really shows his ass this season. 

1 hour ago, GussieK said:

Jovi’s mother seems great!

Gwen has been the one breath of fresh air this season. 

[Opine]

Uncle Beau won the day!  

I am excited the tell all's going to be available for us lowly non Discovery plus people.  Frankly, if we didn't get the tell all, this was going to be my last season.  

[Mean Jeanne]

Are we just ignoring the fact that Sequim was covered in snow the day Natalie fled to Seattle for her flight home, and then just two days later (supposedly) they’re having a wedding in a springtime meadow next to Mike’s house? So some miracle of nature allowed such a change in the weather that Natalie was able to wear a dress with bare shoulders, and Uncle Beau resplendent in a clean white wife-beater? Mmkay...

Loved how Jovi finally revealed that he does have a heart with the birth of his baby. Liking Yara so much more these last few episodes, and how lucky they are to have kind and supportive Gwen in the mix.

[steff13]

19 minutes ago, Mean Jeanne said:

Are we just ignoring the fact that Sequim was covered in snow the day Natalie fled to Seattle for her flight home, and then just two days later (supposedly) they’re having a wedding in a springtime meadow next to Mike’s house? So some miracle of nature allowed such a change in the weather that Natalie was able to wear a dress with bare shoulders, and Uncle Beau resplendent in a clean white wife-beater? Mmkay...

Loved how Jovi finally revealed that he does have a heart with the birth of his baby. Liking Yara so much more these last few episodes, and how lucky they are to have kind and supportive Gwen in the mix.

I'm not saying there weren't some producer shenanigans going on, but here in the Cincinnati area it was 73* last Tuesday, and there was 2" of snow on the ground when I woke up Thursday morning.  

[Mrs. Hanson]

8 hours ago, RealReality said:

You all will throw internet tomatoes at me but I also think that part of this can be attributed to being raised only around women who coddled him.  

He never looked more greasy and disgusting than he did this episode.  

No, I completely agree with you!  Jorge reminded me of this as well.   Andrew has an ass licking mom and sister who defend his poor choices and poor behavior.  He needs to show them the texts where he was intimidating her.  I stand by my theory that I shared in the live chat that he wanted to get her pregnant ASAP to control her and isolate her.  "You talk to your dad too much - that needs to stop.  You went to the store - where is the receipt?  There is ten minutes unaccounted for.  WHERE WERE YOU?"

And yes, I was openly mimicking her with her lisp.  And I. Don't Care.

[Baltimore Betty]

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

[Mrs. Hanson]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

I am so sorry for your loss.  You will have high quality snark here, my friend!  You will laugh out loud, I promise!

[gotta watch]

So Stephanie just basically bought Harris from his current/real girlfriend?

[Stuckathome]

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1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Andrew has an ass licking mom and sister who defend his poor choices and poor behavior.  He needs to show them the texts where he was intimidating her. 

 

Yeah....except he won't ever show them the texts because deep down, these coddled douchecanoe men KNOW where they went wrong....they just don't want to face it. Even if he did show them those texts, I am sure Mom and Sis would be "oh well, it wasn't THAT bad....she totally read into that and blew that out of proportion." Either he imports a bride from a very impoverished country, or Andrew will be living at home and working for Mom the rest of his life, lamenting how good guys don't get a fair shake from women. Amira, you dodged a bullet and I am sure with the boost from your appearance on this show, you will find a lot of suitable guys sliding into your DMs. ANYONE is more suitable than Andrew. Hell, I would take Big Ed over Andrew. 

 

Yara looked amazing in that dress and I thought it was very appropriate for the venue. Gwen wins 90 day fiance mom of the year for her comment about handing Jovi off to Yara and how she stepped up and helped Yara when she was alone and pregnant during Covid and Jovi was stuck out of the country. I don't have much hope for them long term unless the baby really makes him stop his party boy ways, but I wish them all the best. And screw you to the bitch that made the comment about a year and a day....I think that was the "friend" who went to the nail salon with Yara. Probably banged Jovi a few times in the past when he was drunk and pined away assuming one day when he was ready to settle down she would be "the one." Jovi, keep her far away from your sweet family. 

 

Stephanie...oh boy, Harris tells her just what she wants to hear and Emma is all on board. "Better as friends".....meaning, yeah, we are still in love but this is our one shot to get some $$ and a better life for our kids so I will suck it up and send him off to take care of this drunk, rich white lady. 

Natalie/Mike.......I think they signed some papers in his kitchen on day 90 and re-enacted the garden wedding later for TLC. Guessing it is in the contract that if you do get married, we get to film the wedding. I am sure they are FUMING at how Andrew/Amira played out. 

[mamadrama]

At this point I am #TeamHarris Stephanie is a sex tourist but Harris just wants to provide a better life for his family. At least his intentions are understandable. 

I am loving Yara. Whenever I see a woman give birth I simultaneously want to push and cross my legs.

Well done Mother Jovi. What she did was incredibly kind and thoughtful. 

So Mike and Natalie had to be a reenactment, right? Her boobs, earrings, and hair kept changing. 

Andrew is creepy AF but while Amira might not be the brightest bulb to be screwed, at least she walked away. I envy her hair. 

I am more excited about the Tell Off than I should be. 

Edited April 5, 2021 by mamadrama

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Yeah....except he won't ever show them the texts because deep down, these coddled douchecanoe men KNOW where they went wrong....they just don't want to face it. Even if he did show them those texts, I am sure Mom and Sis would be "oh well, it wasn't THAT bad....she totally read into that and blew that out of proportion." Either he imports a bride from a very impoverished country, or Andrew will be living at home and working for Mom the rest of his life, lamenting how good guys don't get a fair shake from women. Amira, you dodged a bullet and I am sure with the boost from your appearance on this show, you will find a lot of suitable guys sliding into your DMs. ANYONE is more suitable than Andrew. Hell, I would take Big Ed over Andrew. 

Yep, he will forever be the guy who is never married, always single, never wanting to work on why he is alone, having friends and coddle him.  When the mom said "Do we even know she had an anxiety attack?  I wanted to punch her in the throat, too.  I had one, once, in 1995 and it was HELL.  It felt like I had a belt tightening around my waist, I could not breathe, I was sweating profusely, and I was sitting on the ground, rocking.  It was horrible.

Harris:  Dude, you are sitting on the beach, watching your kids swim.  Fine.  But you had your arm around her!  I was not about having my ex touch me in ANY form after our divorce.  But hey he is upfront:  "Who says no to free money?"  Stephani's cat look terrified.  

6 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I am more excited about the Tell Off than I should be. 

Me too.

[CrazyInAlabama]

Any woman that marries Andrew is a fool. 

[endure]

33 minutes ago, gotta watch said:

So Stephanie just basically bought Harris from his current/real girlfriend?

Is he planning to marry her then off her?  That was just creepy and dark.  Maybe I watch too much Dateline.

[Pondlass1]

Is Jovi adopted? Where did he get those teeth, those lips? Dad doesn’t even have lips.

I, too, call shenanigans on the Mike/Natalie wedding. But uncle Beau stole the show.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Just now, Pondlass1 said:

Is Jovi adopted? Where did he get those teeth, those lips? Dad doesn’t even have lips.

I, too, call shenanigans on the Mike/Natalie wedding. But uncle Beau stole the show.

Rumor is the guy he calls dad is his stepdad.  

 

11 minutes ago, endure said:

Maybe I watch too much Dateline.

I DO watch too much Dateline, and I am not sorry.

[Opine]

59 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

At this point I am #TeamHarris Stephanie is a sex tourist but Harris just wants to provide a better life for his family. At least his intentions are understandable. 

I am loving Yara. Whenever I see a woman give birth I simultaneously want to push and cross my legs.

Well done Mother Jovi. What she did was incredibly kind and thoughtful. 

So Mike and Natalie had to be a reenactment, right? Her boobs, earrings, and hair kept changing. 

Andrew is creepy AF but while Amira might not be the brightest bulb to be screwed, at least she walked away. I envy her hair. 

I am more excited about the Tell Off than I should be. 

My heart breaks for Harris.  He seems like a good guy who loves his family and wants to help them by going to the USA with aged Barbie.  He is either going to get here and become a slackass or desperately miss the fam and head back home.  That is assuming the aged Barbie can get a second K1.  

Mother Jovi sadly reminded me of my sis in law.  The day before her wedding to an ex-con, his parents called her over for a visit and basically said he's your problem now!!!  And he was a problem.  Who'd a thunk that the ex-con she married turned out to be a thief and a wife beater?  I don't think Jovi's that bad, but as many have said before, I am betting some $$ has been paid to get Jovi out of his drunk problems.

 

[candall]

On 4/5/2021 at 8:07 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

Well, you'll want to catch the nuptials at the Elvis Wedding Chapel in Vegas--which has incorporated giant letters into their official sign to announce that FAMOUS ROCK STAR JON BON JOVI WAS MARRIED HERE.

And who can blame him, because you get maximum Elvis bang for your buck at this joint.  Fat Elvis will sing and play guitar while escorting the bride down the aisle, then flip the script and assume center stage to officiate the wedding.  He's also available to throw the bouquet or rip that garter off with his teeth for a nominal additional fee.

 

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by candall

[Doublemint]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

Oh, Betty, I'm so sorry for your loss.  Your Father loved you and helped make you who you are.  You carry him with you.

[Shauna]

Clearly Natalie is a sociopath as she is BRUSHING her curly hair. 

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[Nancybeth]

1 minute ago, Shauna said:

Clearly Natalie is a sociopath as she is BRUSHING her curly hair. 

I said, out loud, to no one by my dog, "Oh no girl, what are you doing??" Also I think she needed a bra in that dress. And what was up with the sneakers? And Uncle Bo's outfit? That whole thing was strange.

Jovi and Yara had a lot of guests at their wedding! Who were all those other people? 

[Scarlett45]

@Baltimore Betty I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my godmother last month, and yes the posts here have been a comfort, everyone's posts make me laugh. I have been following along this season but havent posted much.

 

Has anyone else watched Auntie's Advice on Youtube? I found her via My600LBS Life but she reviews this series and she is hilarious. She was cracking me up regarding Harris/Stephanie. I def think Harris and his GF are planning this together, he wants to make his family's life more comfortable, but his eyes freak me out- wouldnt mess with Harris.

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Harris:  Dude, you are sitting on the beach, watching your kids swim.  Fine.  But you had your arm around her!  I was not about having my ex touch me in ANY form after our divorce.  But hey he is upfront:  "Who says no to free money?"  Stephani's cat look terrified.  

That money wasn't free, it was payment for services rendered. I am not worried about Harris though, he can handle himself.

 

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Well done Mother Jovi. What she did was incredibly kind and thoughtful. 

I like Gwen too, I think she is nice.

[Shauna]

12 minutes ago, Nancybeth said:

I said, out loud, to no one by my dog, "Oh no girl, what are you doing??" Also I think she needed a bra in that dress. And what was up with the sneakers? And Uncle Bo's outfit? That whole thing was strange.

Jovi and Yara had a lot of guests at their wedding! Who were all those other people? 

I was screaming at the tv:  WHY ARE YOU BRUSHING YOUR HAIR? 

Only people with curls with understand this.

She absolutely  needed a bra.  How did her boobs get so big?  Is she preggers or is it the good ol American diet?

Sneakers, I think were for ease of walking, but a flat sandal would have done the job, too.

Yeah, I was thinking that all those people at the Elvis wedding were guests waiting to be married by Elvis, but they turned out to be Yara's and Jovi's guests. 

Finally, I can't with Yara's lips.  Why do women do this to themselves??????

[Mellybelly]

Did anyone catch the kiss from Harris to the baby-momma ex?  They are totally still together.  Harris looked extremely deflated and disgusted on the phone with Steph and acted like he didn't want her talking to his "ex".  He's totally pimping himself out to get to the US.  And regardless of his reasons, that's just sad.  Steph knows it too.  She now LOVES Harris when a week ago she "loved" Ryan?  Not buying it.

And yeah, that girl at Yara and Jovi's wedding was totally glaring during the ceremony and obviously unhappy about it.  Was she, in fact, the one who took Yara to the nail salon and told Yara about Jovi and his love for stripper joints?

 

 

[Back Atcha]

41 minutes ago, Nancybeth said:

Also I think she needed a bra in that dress. And what was up with the sneakers? And Uncle Bo's outfit? 

Uncle Bo could have used a bra too.

[Back Atcha]

12 hours ago, endure said:

Andrew and his Mother both really bother me, I completely agree with RealReality Amira dodged a bullet.

Andrew is a weak loser with hygiene deficiencies, but his mother is dangerous.  She understands little but is angry about it all. Instigator Supreme!  If she believed she was going on television to portray a supportive parent, she needs to read the contract and script again.  Can you IMAGINE what those poor kids at her daycare center go through?

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Is Jovi adopted?

"Prolly" not.  Those parents are BioMom and StepDad.

2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Where did he get those teeth, those lips?

The teeth?  Pacifiers for too long...too long every day and too many years.   Actually, the teeth look good, white and healthy.  They're just there...ALWAYS THERE!!  And he's always smiling.  Those lips?  BioDaddy Dearest?

2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Dad doesn’t even have lips.

 Well...StepDad doesn't have lips.

[Back Atcha]

5 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

I think Natalie looked fine, but it tickles me that it looks like she’s packed on some weight after giving Mike grief about needing to lose 20 kilos. Miss fitness is barely fitting’ in this dress!

She doesn't have a car.  Perhaps she can get groceries only when Mike takes her...OR maybe Mike buys the groceries (and perhaps some fast foods) on his way home from work.  She TRIED to "eat healthy" when she moved in.

5 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

A mean joke but she’s such an asshole, I cannot with her.

He out-assholes her in every way.   She's been at a relationship/country/laws disadvantage 85% of the time.

5 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

“You look beautiful.” “I know.” Who does she think she is?

It could be a difference in culture or language.  Here I'd say, "Thank you."   Maybe in her country THEY would ask, "Who does she think she is?"

[Uncle JUICE]

Both my wife and I thought Stephanie's cat was long dead and had been taxiderm-ed. It's like it had some weird defense mechanism when she touched it, its cat soul basically escaped its body until she put it down. I've never seen such a lifeless look from an animal. Not disdain, not resentment, not joy...just "if I stay totally still this will be over sooner." 

[endure]

27 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

Andrew is a weak loser with hygiene deficiencies, but his mother is dangerous.  She understands little but is angry about it all. Instigator Supreme!  If she believed she was going on television to portray a supportive parent, she needs to read the contract and script again.  Can you IMAGINE what those poor kids at her daycare center go through?

I wonder how many parents will remove their kids from their care after seeing these low lifers on TV 😟

Edited April 5, 2021 by endure

[Grifter Lives]

3 hours ago, gotta watch said:

So Stephanie just basically bought Harris from his current/real girlfriend?

Rent to Own, like furniture

[Boo Boo]

I know Andrew is disgusting, but Amira's voice and sing song talk annoys the shit out of me!

[Frozendiva]

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

My condolences.

[Adeejay]

I like Jovi's mom.  She was very kind to Yara while he was gone.  Say what you will about Jovi, but his family and friends are very supportive.  He had a nice crowd at their engagement party, wedding and gender reveal.  

Harris appears to be a family man who cares deeply for his kids.  He is clearly pulling a fast one on Stephanie; I hope he succeeds.

The timeline for Natalie and Mike's reconciliation and wedding seemed wonky.  I noticed that his mom was there.  If they were married on the 90th day, that wouldn't have been possible.  Nice of Uncle Beau to break out his best wife beater.  

[Boo Boo]

@Baltimore Betty I'm so sorry to read about your dad's passing.  Hugs to you.

[Frozendiva]

Even with the language barrier, don’t some of the folks pick up vibes from their love interest? If what the person says or if a behavior is uncomfortable for you, do you not notice it?  And call it out? Or is it fear of no green card and the price of a better life? You can’t change anyone except yourself.

Yara said that if she wasn’t preggers she may have gone back to the Ukraine. She is aware of Jovi’s drinking and party frat boy lifestyle and his immaturity.

Amira caught on to the real Andrew with the Mexico and Serbia disasters. He had a good time in Mexico. She says he is pressuring her for babies when they haven’t even spent much time together. Her friend and her father noticed the bad behavior.

Natalie, Mike isn’t low class, stupid, and fat. He is not going to be a fitness freak. He will be husky in terms of build, he likes his steak. A teddy bear type guy. If you don’t like it, move along. 

Yara did have a nice wedding. She looked beautiful. Too bad none of her friends could show up. Even though his mom was a bit iffy, in the end, she came through for her new daughter and was every bit a mom to her when she needed one.  Good luck with Mylah. Maybe seeing her and bonding with her may start a change for Jovi and force him in to adulthood and responsibility.

Andrew’s mom and sister can take a few seats. Andrew is a big boy and they should be well aware of his issues and not defend his behaviour. He treated Amira badly and was a first class jerk. He is not the victim.  There are more fish in the sea and he may not make the same mistake with the next one(s).

Natalie’s dress and hair kept changing. Bad editing. If Mike did not want her, he should have sent her home within 30 days of arrival. What went on was not cool and being strung along was heartless. Maybe with counseling and work on themselves, they can make it work for a while. Covid and closed borders didn’t help.

 

 

[Frozendiva]

Forgot about Stephanie. Lady, most people are not for sale. You need to cut a deal with Harris. He is also not your property. Burning the K1 Ryan was a bad idea with the dry brush. Hello fire department! You don’t love either of them if you can replace one with the other within a couple of days. Harris is probably lying that his wife of 14 years will let him go for - you. Stop being a means to an end for these men and get some self worth. Nothing wrong with being single.

[heatherchandler]

4 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

 

Harris:  Dude, you are sitting on the beach, watching your kids swim.  Fine.  But you had your arm around her!  I was not about having my ex touch me in ANY form after our divorce.  But hey he is upfront:  "Who says no to free money?"  Stephani's cat look terrified.  

Me too.

The poor little terrified cat having to "kiss" the picture of Harris was some f-ed up shit.

[RealReality]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I have not seen this episode and I am resisting reading the posts, my father died Sunday evening, 94 years old, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure for the last three years...he held on for a week in an end of life way, waited for me to leave the room then he passed away.

I am ok (lots to do for the funeral and other misc. things but I am okay), what I am counting on from all of you on the board is some really good snark and somethings to make me laugh out loud.

 

So sorry.  I'm skimming but I wanted to say that immediately as they wait and make sure I won't faint after this second shot. 

31 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

The poor little terrified cat having to "kiss" the picture of Harris was some f-ed up shit.

If that cat would talk.....

It would probably beg for the sweet mercy of death....

Real talk, I was really that cat spit a fireball in her face as she baby talked it.