S16.E12: Week 12

[saber5055]

4 minutes ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

I thought it was odd, like the guys were told to be in that main room, and the guy coming from the FS date was told to go there too. They are working so hard to get controversy and drama. I'm glad the guys aren't falling for it. At least not now that Bennett and Noah are gone. And even those two weren't any fun, it was all so forced and scripted.

[dirtypop90]

7 minutes ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

Did it last year with Peter and his final three.

[Madding crowd]

I feel sorry for the men because they have to be so bored just sitting around the boring hotel. I also think Tayisha ends up with no one but I can’t figure out why. She and Zac both said they loved each other so something must happen between the fantasy date and the ending. 

I think she really liked Brendan too and I wonder if they will end up dating each other after this is over. I really like Ivan , but Tayisha doesn’t seem crazy about him.

Edited December 22, 2020 by Madding crowd

[Arkay]

Brendan's been my favorite from the beginning. He probably told his producer that he wasn't sure about proposing; ergo, he gets the lousy Neal Lane date. Then he can be shown to gulp while staring at engagement rings and wedding bands. I'll bet that if Brendan had that fun art date, he would have stayed for the Fantasy Suites.

That said, from what we are shown, Tayshia's  relationship with Zac seems the most sensual. He has a better sense of humor than the other guys, and seems more down-to-earth than Ivan and Brendan. 

I'm not crazy about Ben coming back. It also couldn't have been a surprise to Chris, because he said "I heard you had something on your mind," or something like that.

Sometimes Tayshia strikes me as so beautiful, but at other times she makes a certain expression that really makes her large jaw very noticeable. Overall though I think she's one of the prettier Bachelorettes. 

 

[Irlandesa]

Ben coming back disappointed me.  It felt like such a production move.  "Want to be a part of Bachelor in Paradise or perhaps lead in the future?  Come back and express your love."  I don't really think Tayshia cares. I think she knew her F1 and made some strategic eliminations as long as the producers let her. 

And I hate production moves. I actually have very much enjoyed this season, especially given some of the more intimate conversations we've gotten that we don't normally get.  Even tonight.  Producer shenanigans have been the least interesting part of the season for me. They've just gotten in the way.

What made it worse is that I've liked Ben up to this point.  I've worried for him because I felt like he was vulnerable and was probably too soon out of some recent troubles to be able to weather the craziness that is this franchise.  But in this episode?  He just felt off for some reason.  A little zombie like?  Maybe even a little creepy. 

Brendan's date was a failure but if he couldn't find fun in that kind of date, then he's not ready.  And a few more days isn't going to make him ready.  I think Zac and Tayshia's wedding picture date had the potential to be just as awkward--and even started out that way--but both threw themselves into the silliness of it all and it was fun to watch. 

I think Brendan's issue is that I don't think he was ever fully into Tayshia and therefore, didn't feel prepared to marry her. 

I think it's really interesting to look at the body language with Ivan, especially compared to when she's with Zac.  When they were on the bed, she was laying next to Ivan, on her back, with just one hand on his body when they were kissing.  When she was Zac, her whole body was turned towards him when they were kissing in addition to being on top of him/him on top of her.

I can believe she slept with neither. I can believe she slept with Zac.  But I would be shocked to find out she slept with Ivan.

Speaking of Zac's date, I like that they showed a more light hearted side to him.  I found myself smiling during that date. 

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Irlandesa

[chocolatine]

5 hours ago, saber5055 said:

Ice bath? Oh, no thanks. NO WAY IN H.E.L.L. It's colder than frit in my house right now and I have no interest in even washing my hair at the moment. Hypothermia, anyone?

If it really was 120F in the desert like they said, I'm sure the ice bath wasn't so bad.

5 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Who the hell is Big Paulie? This is not a Bachelor Nation favorite. I’m sorry to this man. But we do not know you. 

Apparently he does security and other odd jobs for the production.

2 hours ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

That started last season with Peter's final three, and I absolutely hate it. It strips away the last shred of dignity from "the process."

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

What made it worse is that I've liked Ben up to this point.  I've worried for him because I felt like he was vulnerable and was probably too soon out of some recent troubles to be able to weather the craziness that is this franchise.  But in this episode?  He just felt off for some reason.  A little zombie like?  Maybe even a little creepy.

Ben has felt off to me for most of the season. Once he revealed his struggles I tried to chalk it up to that, but having mental health struggles and being a creep are not mutually exclusive things. I hope he doesn't get to stay for the rose ceremony, because it would be really awkward if he's eliminated at two rose ceremonies in a row.

They really did poor Brendan dirty with that date. Even if he had been ready to propose, what kind of guy wants to spend several hours watching his girlfriend try on gaudy jewelry and listening to a weird guy with bad plastic surgery explain that rings are circular? (To be fair to Neal Lane, he did redeem himself a little by saying he was going to "make a toast.") The other two men got to see Tayshia in a bikini and make out with her.

Do Airstreams have air conditioning? Or does the desert at least get cold at night? Because if neither is the case, it must have been one miserable fantasy suite.

Edited December 22, 2020 by chocolatine

[AllyCat7]

Hi all! I have not posted here in years, although I read this forum every single season lol. I felt compelled to jump in tonight 🙂 What I am thinking tonight is how, the more I watch this show, the more the sleeping with multiple people in the FS is really problematic--especially for the Bachelorette franchise. And now that they have the final guys in one room during the FS dates is even more disturbing and gross. This is not the way to add to the foundation of a relationship or to launch a successful engagement or marriage. It's the opposite in fact. It's relationship krypronite or poison. I think this is one reason why Brandan left. He felt deep in his gut how wrong this all is and how it would ruin his trust in this engagement being strong. Him being married before means he didn't want to jump easily into another engagement...so he really thought this through. And he is the only guy who saw things clearly. I hope more bachelors and bachelorettes stop sleeping with multiple finalists. It's so bad for the relationship--especially when Bachette is then lead (call me sexist, but that's human nature). The end 😄

[AllyCat7]

2 hours ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

Agree. No. They didn't used to do this. And yes, it is gross.

[EllenB]

"What I am thinking tonight is how, the more I watch this show, the more the sleeping with multiple people in the FS is really problematic--especially for the Bachelorette franchise."

Hello, 1950! 🙄

[bosawks]

I think we all learned a valuable lesson that if you want to cure someone of the desire to be married have them spend the day with Neil Lane.

[phlebas]

It's good Boner Blake was already gone and didn't get that body painting date. He would have rolled over at some point and screwed himself into the grass like a horny lawn dart.

[alexa]

8 hours ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

They started doing this a couple seasons ago on each of the shows, and I hate it.  It was already weird to have intimate situations with multiple people, but at least before there was some privacy and less awkwardness about it.  

Edited December 22, 2020 by alexa

[JudyObscure]

8 hours ago, Bluesky said:

Why would he [Ben] come back?  Has he no pride?   

Nope, just an overwhelming desire for fame at any price.  Ben is the guy who interpreted, "Paint a picture that reveals something about yourself,"  as,  "Walk out naked holding your junk in your hand."  I hated that!  He tried to play it as showing his vulnerability, but that would only make sense if he had a pot belly or was covered in scars or something.   He was just showing off. 

Ben didn't quite make it in the Army.  Ben has tried to kill himself twice, most recently last year.  Ben once weighed 400 lbs. There's nothing wrong with any of those things except his eagerness to talk about it all  in exchange for air time. Now we're seeing that giant ego that thinks the only reason a woman would break up with him is that she just didn't think he loved her.  

[alexa]

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Brendan's date was a failure but if he couldn't find fun in that kind of date, then he's not ready.  And a few more days isn't going to make him ready.  I think Zac and Tayshia's wedding picture date had the potential to be just as awkward--and even started out that way--but both threw themselves into the silliness of it all and it was fun to watch. 

I don't think very many guys would actually find this type of date "fun" at this stage of their relationship.  This was the last opportunity for her to spend time alone with the guys and she ruined Brendan's date by making him spend it with Neil Lane.  I mean, that is just plain stupid.  Why wouldn't you want to actually have fun and do something normal with the guy you supposedly liked a lot?  

Personally, even if he wasn't ready to marry, I think she blew it, as he seems like a super sweet guy that is worth going at his pace.  And he is very handsome as well... go check out his instagram.  (he also seems nice there as well).  

[Suzysite]

4 hours ago, EllenB said:

"What I am thinking tonight is how, the more I watch this show, the more the sleeping with multiple people in the FS is really problematic--especially for the Bachelorette franchise."

Hello, 1950! 🙄

It doesn't have to be 1950 to prefer that the person you might marry not jump in the sack with multiple people right before you get engaged. 

[Bluesky]

23 minutes ago, Suzysite said:

It doesn't have to be 1950 to prefer that the person you might marry not jump in the sack with multiple people right before you get engaged. 

I think worse is the person you might marry telling two other guys she loves them or is falling for them.  

[JudyObscure]

I bet all the women in Brendon's hometown are going to realize their house could use a new roof.  Mine's a little wonky next to the flashing.

[Starlight925]

I must be the only person who doesn't find Brendon attractive.  I find him sort of funny-looking.

I don't love that he went through this whole process, only to then realize he hasn't yet processed his feelings about his marriage.  I don't buy it.  When you look at his IG, there are all these posed selfies, which begs me to consider that he was more after followers, as he calls himself an "artist".  His posed pics look like he's trying to get work as a model.

This wasn't fair to Tayshia, who clearly developed feelings for him.  He didn't suddenly wake up and realize he wasn't over his marriage.  I just don't buy this, sorry.

My favorite has been Ivan for a long time, but I don't think they'll end up together.  If not, Ivan would make a great Bachelor, or maybe find another really sweet girl from the Bachelor franchise.  I'd hate to see him get chewed up on BIP.

As others have mentioned, I don't understand the need to have filmed this in the desert, in the summer.  They couldn't have flown to a resort somewhere cooler?

[DEL901]

9 hours ago, saber5055 said:

Don't give up hope. There's still tomorrow. And truthfully, I thought it was going to be Brendon coming back too.

For me, I hope “the most shocking ending every” is Tayshia realizing that Brendan is who she wants and she realizes he is worth waiting for / going slow with.  

[alexa]

2 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

For me, I hope “the most shocking ending every” is Tayshia realizing that Brendan is who she wants and she realizes he is worth waiting for / going slow with.  

Yes, this!  🙂  

[TiredMe]

23 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

I must be the only person who doesn't find Brendon attractive.  I find him sort of funny-looking.

 

I don't find him attractive or necessarily unattractive on the show. But I did see some of his modeling shots since he is a wannabe actor and model and dayum, he looks good in the modelling stuff.  He'd look better on the show if he wasn't constantly sweating and looking so nervous. LOL

I totally get what Tayshia says about Zac having swag. It makes him more attractive and she is clearly the most attracted to him I think. But I do think he may be too serious/intense for her. 

I get a total friendzone vibe with her and Ivan.

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, JudyObscure said:

Ben is the guy who interpreted, "Paint a picture that reveals something about yourself,"  as,  "Walk out naked holding your junk in your hand." 

Ummmm...what has happened to this show??? Yikes!! 😂

[Bluesky]

6 minutes ago, TiredMe said:

I don't find him attractive or necessarily unattractive on the show. But I did see some of his modeling shots since he is a wannabe actor and model and dayum, he looks good in the modelling stuff.  He'd look better on the show if he wasn't constantly sweating and looking so nervous. LOL

I totally get what Tayshia says about Zac having swag. It makes him more attractive and she is clearly the most attracted to him I think. But I do think he may be too serious/intense for her. 

I get a total friendzone vibe with her and Ivan.

Zac and  Tayshia have matching chins, those poor kids.  But more importantly I couldn’t get past his massive drug use.  This wasn’t a person becoming addicted to painkillers because of an illness.  He was using beforehand and he wasn’t just using medication for pain.  He admits to crack cocaine, heroin, oxy, adderal, alcohol, alcohol, alcohol.  Pretty much anything put in front of him.  Now he’s a “specialist”.   Maybe he will stay sober but why take the chance for that kind of heartbreak.  I don’t believe for a minute that they are in love.  

[peachmangosteen]

This board is for discussing the participants in the show, not your fellow posters. Please keep your comments directed at Tayshia, the men, or Production. 

[LBS]

I wish Neil Lane had a display of relinquished rings from past contestants.  He’s still smarting that Becca and Garret held on long enough to keep it.  <<internal Neil Lane voice MY PRECIOUS >>

I like all the guys and I’m more invested in their relationship with each other rather than with Tayshia.  It shows a lot about their characters that they are all respectful of each other despite being in such uncomfortable situations. I.e having to do man chats after each overnight date.  I remember Shawn being such a jerk to Nick after the fantasy suites like it was somehow Nick’s fault that he had the date.

This is the first season I’m not spoiled which has been fun!  I’m thinking Zac is the one.

Edited December 22, 2020 by LBS
Spelled her name wrong.

[peachmangosteen]

29 minutes ago, Bluesky said:

Zac and Tayshia have matching chins, those poor kids.  

I howled!

I like Tayshia and I like a lot of the guys, but man this season just feels very phony to me. I don't see anything between Tayshia and any of the guys. I mean, I'm sure she likes all of them and they like her, but I don't get anything deep or potentially lasting with any of them. 

[LuvMyShows]

1 hour ago, Starlight925 said:

My favorite has been Ivan for a long time, but I don't think they'll end up together.  If not, Ivan would make a great Bachelor, or maybe find another really sweet girl from the Bachelor franchise.  I'd hate to see him get chewed up on BIP.

So for us old-timers from this franchise, two people who were considered the nicest guy and girl from awhile back, did end up getting married (they were introduced by a mutual Bachelor franchise friend)...Peyton and CCC (Cape Cod Chris).  I wonder who would make a good match for Ivan?

26 minutes ago, LBS said:

I wish Neil Lane had a display of relinquished rings from past contestants.  

I was stunned that he said former contestants proudly show him that they still have the ring, cause I am guessing that the vast majority end up getting a ring that they each actually want and like, and have some input into.  Maybe the married former contestants, when they are going to an event where Neil might be, haul out their old Neil Lane ring and wear it specifically for the occasion!

9 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Apparently he does security and other odd jobs for the production.

Yes, again as an old-timer, I first became aware of him in the infamous Roz 'scandal' mentioned in the article.

[Lamb18]

I'm watching now. One thing I've noticed is how nice these three guys are to each other and they seem to like each other, too. It makes the whole setup weirder as it's so removed from how a relationship would work in real life.

I liked her time with Ivan, but now that I've just watched her greet Zac I can see the difference on how she is with them. She really likes Ivan but she sparkles with Zac.

[Alexander Pope]

1 hour ago, Lamb18 said:

I'm watching now. One thing I've noticed is how nice these three guys are to each other and they seem to like each other, too. It makes the whole setup weirder as it's so removed from how a relationship would work in real life.

I liked her time with Ivan, but now that I've just watched her greet Zac I can see the difference on how she is with them. She really likes Ivan but she sparkles with Zac.

I agree with everyone that she has the most chemistry with Zac.  But I have never seen anyone play the show's game so completely by telling us repeatedly how much she can imagine herself with all three of them.  After practically going into the x-rated zone with Zac on the painting date, and telling him "I love you too," not "I'm falling in love with you," she tells us that she thought Brandon was the one all along?  Is she the perfect Bachelorette robot?  I am really confused!

Edited December 22, 2020 by Alexander Pope
edited for grammar

[Recyclorette]

2 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

I bet all the women in Brendon's hometown are going to realize their house could use a new roof.  Mine's a little wonky next to the flashing.

Haha!  He's from Massachusetts, so make sure you have some Sam Adams on ice so you can offer him a nice cold one!  I bet that would charm him more than that awful Neil Lane date.

[saber5055]

10 hours ago, chocolatine said:

If it really was 120F in the desert like they said, I'm sure the ice bath wasn't so bad.

Yeah, I thought of that afterward. I used to like watching Deadliest Catch when it was 120 degrees here.

Was Neil Lane playing the piano? I sort of blocked that entire "date" from my memory bank.

[Crashcourse]

13 hours ago, saber5055 said:

Hey, Bennett got to come back, not that that wasn't some bullshit too!

Oh I agree, that was bullshit as well, but I was just referring to this episode and Ben. 

[catrice2]

3 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

I agree with everyone that she has the most chemistry with Zac.  But I have never seen anyone play the show's game so completely by telling us repeatedly how much she can imagine herself with all three of them.  After practically going into the x-rated zone with Zac on the painting date, and telling him "I love you too," not "I'm falling in love for you," she tells us that she thought Brandon was the one all along?  Is she the perfect Bachelorette robot?  I am really confused!

@Alexander Pope. I think Tayshia is a producer's dream. She says all the right things at the right times.  I see nothing really authentic about her. She seems to be a nice girl that is playing a role..and I think she  probably does that in real life. In that respect I think she and Ben are similar.  They project what people want to see, especially to be accepted, while not quit knowing who they really want to be.  I think that is where they connect. 

As for Zac, I think Tayshia thinks older means more mature and stable and that is something she has lacked in past relationships.  I think she has convinced herself that Zac is the type of man she SHOULD  be with, and if she chooses that type of man it will be different than her past relationships. the fact that he lives near New York and she has thought about living there is a bonus 

Ivan -unpopular opinion- but I think Tayshia appreciated that Ivan was Bi racial and he gave her something she'd never had before on a deep level.  He was an experiment for her to see if she could date a MOC although I think she liked him a lot.  Truth is she was just not as comfortable because he was not her usual. Nothing wrong with that, but she also knew he adored her and she kept him until she got the ILY she wanted from the people she wanted, then he became expendable.  No way she didn't know before fantasy suites that he was the weakest link and that is why he got an ice bath and RV.   She also thinks he is someone she "should" be with because he is so dependable and seemingly sincere...and she kept him for optics being a bi-racial Bachelorette in the wake of the recent cries for diversity and social justice.  She may not have even realized that was what she was doing, but I can see some producer manipulation with that too. 

Brendan- Probably shouldn't have been here, but since he was I think the final straw for him was that he didn't go first. I think after being married before the idea that she would sleep with other guys was not something he was into, and I can't blame him.  I honestly think he felt as if he was first she would not want to be intimate with someone else.  I also think the producers knew he was having doubts when they planned that date which is horrible. On one hand I think, "why are you here, you know the show," and on the other hand I think we all THINK we can do something, but when it comes to it sometimes can't...like when I went skydiving.  It just became e overwhelming to me.  He also confirmed on a podcast he had NOT watched the show. I always have respect for people who walk away. 

I would be very surprised if any relationship from any of these men works out for her.  Now my friend tells me she has a sister that is training to be a fighter pilot or something.  THAT is the kind of girl Ivan needs.  He is way too much of a thinker for someone like Tayshia.  I think she is a smart girl, a nice girl, but someone who talks a lot about "faith" yet has never really explained what that means or how that would play out with the men.  I also wonder about her family dynamic if her sister is more educationally accomplished than her. She just comes across as a woman who is too dependent on her relationship with a man and has no idea who she is on her own.   JMO 

Edited December 22, 2020 by catrice2

[MoreCoffeePlease]

At first I didn't think Brendon was that attractive either, but he won me over with his sweet personality. Searching for photos, he photographs very well.  

Back to Jojo, for the love of god, what did she do to her face? I assume multiple fillers, Botox, etc. WHY?!?!  She was so pretty to begin with. Doctors who do this should be ashamed of themselves.  

 

[FlyingEgret]

Based on Brendan's reaction when they were first introduced, I believe he had no idea who Neil Lane was and that makes me like him even more...

[chocolatine]

1 hour ago, MoreCoffeePlease said:

Back to Jojo, for the love of god, what did she do to her face? I assume multiple fillers, Botox, etc. WHY?!?!  She was so pretty to begin with.

Not "to begin with" because she'd already had extensive work done by the time she first appeared on the franchise. I agree that she was much prettier then and should have stopped at that point. If you remember her HTD on Ben's season, her mother also looked like she'd had too many procedures, so that vanity definitely runs in her family.

Edited December 22, 2020 by chocolatine
Removed a question because I found the answer.

[alexa]

Brendan just posted on instagram.  It is a very sweet post....

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHBGiRgxEB/

 

[Kiss my mutt]

1 minute ago, chocolatine said:

Do you have any sources for that? On Tayshia's HTD on Colton's season there were only her parents and a much younger brother, no sister.

Not "to begin with" because she'd already had extensive work done by the time she first appeared on the franchise. I agree that she was much prettier then and should have stopped at that point. If you remember her HTD on Ben's season, her mother also looked like she'd had too many procedures, so that vanity definitely runs in her family.

She’s going to end up looking like her mother before too long and nobody wants that! 

[Irlandesa]

12 hours ago, AllyCat7 said:

What I am thinking tonight is how, the more I watch this show, the more the sleeping with multiple people in the FS is really problematic--especially for the Bachelorette franchise. And now that they have the final guys in one room during the FS dates is even more disturbing and gross. This is not the way to add to the foundation of a relationship or to launch a successful engagement or marriage. It's the opposite in fact. It's relationship krypronite or poison. It's so bad for the relationship--especially when Bachette is then lead (call me sexist, but that's human nature). The end 😄

The standards for modern dating these days is that exclusivity is more of an open conversation than an assumption. With the Bachelor franchise, exclusivity isn't even going to be an option until they get engaged. People know that going in even if they haven't watched the franchise before. Whether or not the lead sleeps with multiple people is up to the lead and not something the audience is ever going to know unless the lead chooses to disclose.  Fantasy Suite use doesn't necessarily mean sex.  It's also used to discuss things they might not want on camera or to keep up the suspense.

Given that the Bachelorette franchise has a better success rate than the Bachelor for such a crazy process, I don't see the fantasy suite as a problem.  At least they're actually given a room for privacy.  I think in the pre-fantasy suite days, the leads had to sneak around.

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I think this is one reason why Brandan left. He felt deep in his gut how wrong this all is and how it would ruin his trust in this engagement being strong. Him being married before means he didn't want to jump easily into another engagement...so he really thought this through. And he is the only guy who saw things clearly. I hope more bachelors and bachelorettes stop sleeping with multiple finalists.

He's not the only guy who sees things clearly. If he were the type to think things through, he wouldn't be doing this show. I think a rational choice when doing this show is a commitment to the idea that it's some sort of bizarre "this is how we met" story and an engagement is akin to a "let's be exclusive and get to know each other better."

I respect that he reached a point where he didn't feel like he could continue but that doesn't make him  more evolved, more rational or more clear eyed than the other people on the show. It makes him a guy who wasn't gaga enough about Tayshia to go to the end and offer up an alternative to engagement if proposing were the real issue.

4 hours ago, LBS said:

I wish Neil Lane had a display of relinquished rings from past contestants.  He’s still smarting that Becca and Garret held on long enough to keep it.  <<internal Neil Lane voice MY PRECIOUS >>

He's the one who set the two year limit.  For the kind of publicity he gets, he should just let go of the time limit; although I guess that'd guarantee a 100% proposal rate.

3 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

I agree with everyone that she has the most chemistry with Zac.  But I have never seen anyone play the show's game so completely by telling us repeatedly how much she can imagine herself with all three of them.  After practically going into the x-rated zone with Zac on the painting date, and telling him "I love you too," not "I'm falling in love with you," she tells us that she thought Brandon was the one all along?  Is she the perfect Bachelorette robot?  I am really confused!

The producers probably love her because she is playing the part perfectly and are willing to say things like being all in with Brandon which was probably true after their first one-on-one but things changed.  And talking head clips mixed voice overs can help craft a suspenseful narrative.  The fact that Brendan left with basically no drama said more than any voice overs did, in my opinion.

At the same time, I think she was pretty strategic in her choices.  Other than Zac, I don't think she brought people to the final three that she was most into or who were the most into her. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Irlandesa

[dirtypop90]

Tayshia was on Colton season not Ben’s. She is college educated like her siblings. She’s the oldest of four. She has two younger siblings who are or were military. And a middle school aged brother. I believe her father goes government contracting work. 

[chocolatine]

10 minutes ago, dirtypop90 said:

Tayshia was on Colton season not Ben’s. She is college educated like her siblings. She’s the oldest of four. She has two younger siblings who are or were military. And a middle school aged brother. I believe her father goes government contracting work. 

Thank you! I just found this article about Tayshia's family. The two middle siblings didn't appear on her HTD on Colton's season, only the youngest brother, so I had previously assumed he was her only sibling. (Maybe I was also projecting because my parents had me at a young age and then waited 14 years to have my brother. 🤣) 

[catrice2]

59 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

Do you have any sources for that? On Tayshia's HTD on Colton's season there were only her parents and a much younger brother, no sister.

Not "to begin with" because she'd already had extensive work done by the time she first appeared on the franchise. I agree that she was much prettier then and should have stopped at that point. If you remember her HTD on Ben's season, her mother also looked like she'd had too many procedures, so that vanity definitely runs in her family.

I am not good at or into social media, but she said it was on her Instagram.   I want to say she said fighter pilot, so if @dirtypop90 is correct about military that makes sense, or it was someone who is "like a sister" to her, I don't know.  Maybe her other siblings were just not at home that season if they are older.  I seem to remember her telling Ivan that her "siblings" always had it easier...which implied more than one. 

I can look it up, but I wonder what Tayshia did before she found fame?  Her ex made it sound as if she was not contributing much to the family income but I consider the source. You can have a degree and still not have a career, or not feel accomplished especially if it is something you are not fulfilled with.  If you have siblings that are more certain in their career paths sometimes that does play with your mind. 

Back in the early days of reality tv my older sister watched the Real World. She always talked about how a lot of people from those shows went on to have real jobs and real lives, like doctors, professors, etc.  I often wonder if that would have been the same if they could have found money in social media fame?  As it was they were always coming back for those Road shows to extend their 5 minutes of fame... she was addicted. 

I think most people look better without facial procedures.. It is crazy to me that they can't see the difference in their faces and see that they have gone too far.

[chocolatine]

3 minutes ago, catrice2 said:

I am not good at or into social media, but she said it was on her Instagram.   I want to say she said fighter pilot, so if @dirtypop90 is correct about military that makes sense, or it was someone who is "like a sister" to her, I don't know.  Maybe her other siblings were just not at home that season if they are older.  I seem to remember her telling Ivan that her "siblings" always had it easier...which implied more than one. 

I can look it up, but I wonder what Tayshia did before she found fame?  Her ex made it sound as if she was not contributing much to the family income but I consider the source. You can have a degree and still not have a career, or not feel accomplished especially if it is something you are not fulfilled with.  If you have siblings that are more certain in their career paths sometimes that does play with your mind.

I did find out more information in the article I posted just a few minutes earlier. The article says the sister has graduated from the Naval Academy as a helicopter pilot, so you were close.

Tayshia was billed as a phlebotomist on Colton's season, but her LinkedIn profile only shows administrative assistant jobs. There's a two-year gap in her resume between 2014 - 2016, but her marriage was from 2016 - 2017, so it seems like she started working again shortly after they got married.

[dirtypop90]

I’m pretty sure the second oldest (brother) made an appearance on coltons season. He was just quiet. The sister did not. The younger brother did as well. 

the second oldest might be done with the military. The pics tayshia posted of him in gear were years ago. So if he’s out I expect him to be on the show. The sister probably doesn’t make it. 
 

 

[SoWindsor]

Compared to Ali with Frank and Des with Brooks, Tayshia did NOT seem even remotely as devastated about Brendan leaving.

To me this implies that he was NOT her F1 and that it’s been Zac for awhile.

[LindaT]

Am I the only one on Team Ben?  

[jade.black]

I cheered when McConaughey lookalike Zac said "Alright alright alright" in his TH. 

He's still my favorite, loved him dancing on the bed in a pink robe and also the end tag with the portrait painting. I think he can find someone more genuine than Tayshia but was really surprised when she said "I love you" to him.

Run, Brendan, run! He gave a great breakup speech.

I was annoyed the second I saw Ben's too-short pants appear on screen.

[nlkm9]

7 hours ago, Bluesky said:

I think worse is the person you might marry telling two other guys she loves them or is falling for them.  

yes. this. I remmeber Trista spending the nite with Charlie (hubba hubba) and wondering how Ryan coped with knowing at the very least Trista made out with another guy all nite before him. yuk.

8 minutes ago, jade.black said:

I cheered when McConaughey lookalike Zac said "Alright alright alright" in his TH. 

He's still my favorite, loved him dancing on the bed in a pink robe and also the end tag with the portrait painting. I think he can find someone more genuine than Tayshia but was really surprised when she said "I love you" to him.

Run, Brendan, run! He gave a great breakup speech.

I was annoyed the second I saw Ben's too-short pants appear on screen.

I loved him dancing on the bed!! lol!! sorry that airstream looked awful. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by nlkm9
typo.

[Kiss my mutt]

I’m just glad they weren’t planning on using the airstream for all the overnights. Ivan really got the short end of the stick here. I wonder what they had planned for Brendan had been stayed. I have nothing but respect that he self-eliminated. 
Please stop trying to make Ben happen. 
 

[Recyclorette]

32 minutes ago, LindaT said:

Am I the only one on Team Ben?  

I was Team Brendan, but I don't dislike Ben.  I'm just concerned about his wellbeing.  I'm a little concerned for Zac, too.  I think Ivan will be OK, but what a good looking couple he and Tayshia would make!  They are stunning together!