S10.E04: All's Fair in Glam and War

[Hiyo]

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Brandi and Garcelle can’t even be compared to one another. Garcelle is a very accomplished actress while Brandi was only cheated on by her semi-famous husband. 

Plus, Brandi spend a few semesters at The Tamra Judge Academy of Dramatic Shit-Stirring before joining (where she was roommates with a certain Kenya Moore).

[Pondlass1]

I was a bit jolted when they suddenly jumped to a flashback of Kyle from a few years ago. She looked liked a completely different woman.

[howivesforever]

5 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I was a bit jolted when they suddenly jumped to a flashback of Kyle from a few years ago. She looked liked a completely different woman.

Ha she was!!!!!!😂

[The Ringo Kidd]

Kyle is just now finding out what a loyal and upstanding friend Dorito is to people who have stuck up for her. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bitch.

Goodbye Kyle.

[RealHousewife]

9 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Kyle is just now finding out what a loyal and upstanding friend Dorito is to people who have stuck up for her. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bitch.

Goodbye Kyle.

Honestly I thought Dorit showed a lot of patience with Kyle. 

[Hiyo]

Dammit Kyle, stop making me side with Dorit!

I really could care less how people feel Kyle did Lisa Vanderpumpenhosen wrong, the biggest crime is making me feel bad for Dorit.

Edited May 7, 2020 by Hiyo

[The Ringo Kidd]

They are crabs in a bucket and will be scratching and clawing at each other until they pick the one they will unite to destroy.

Now we know that they will pick the participant who has the partner with the prodigious pecker.

Say that ten times fast I dare you.

[funnygirl]

Kyle starts sh*t and talks sh*t, but whenever she's confronted she cries and plays the victim. Every time. And without Vanderpump to deflect to, people are starting to see Kyle for who she really is. Vile.

Garcelle is the best. 

[suomi]

27 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I agree with this.  I was super uncomfortable at how everyone just ignored Denise when she tried to remind them about the children nearby.  She made several attempts.  Come on, people!

In her own home!

Kyle was giving off an "I'm slumming it" vibe from the moment she plodded into the scene like she was wearing waffle stompers. Her sense of superiority and self-importance was on full display, ie: her phony attempt at appearing bewildered by the ice sculpture.

The real Kyle is the mean bitch who, along with her vile hag of a sister, went from zero to sixty with Brandi, shrieking and finger-jabbing two on one.

If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[UsernameFatigue]

12 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

Dammit Kyle, stop making me side with Dorit!

I really could care less how people feel Kyle did Lisa Vanderpumpenhosen wrong, the biggest crime is making me feel bad for Dorit.

This episode was either really badly scripted, or really badly edited. Kyle loses her shit over the fact that Dorito didn't make it for the morning boxing exercise. Which Teddi knew was going to happen, and wasn't bothered by. But then Kyle doesn't go to the meditation part of the retreat? Dorito told Teddi that she wasn't going to go, but if Kyle did we never saw it. (Same with Erika not going). So why did Kyle not feel the need to support Teddi for the meditation hour? Why did no one call her on that? It's like this show has too many writers/producers/editors and no one knows what the others are doing. I feel like I am watching a poorly produced high school play. 

Edited May 7, 2020 by UsernameFatigue

[Haute Messe]

3 hours ago, JustDuckie said:

Lisa Rinna is a one-upper. Especially with her own daughters.

Not cute, not fun, not hip. Kind of annoying IMO.

But she OWNS it, honey!!!

2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

Uh-oh! "Refreshing" is the exact word people used nonstop for Brandi back in the TWOP (I think?) days!

It sure isn't the word that I ever used. She was a horrible fit in every way for the BH franchise. Same with Taylor.

[TattleTeeny]

2 hours ago, howivesforever said:

Brandi and Garcelle can’t even be compared to one another. Garcelle is a very accomplished actress while Brandi was only cheated on by her semi-famous husband. 

I never compared them--no one has to convince me that Brandi's a garbage. But that's the word that was used ad nauseam back then when she appeared.

[HeddaGabler]

I'm not defending any of these women, I just get the feeling that Kyle was frustrated that Dorit was a no-show because they perhaps had something planned during the morning. Like, shit-stirring stuff that Kyle can't bring up in front of the camera. So, they were planning to shit-stir, but Dorit stayed home and selfied for hours instead, and Kyle was mad but can't say specifically why, and then gets extra frustrated when Dorit plays this wide-eyed, surprised-at-Kyle's-meanness response. But, Kyle is not smart enough to manage this -- especially coming up against con-artist Dorit.

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, HeddaGabler said:

frustrated that Dorit was a no-show because they perhaps had something planned during the morning. Like, shit-stirring stuff that Kyle can't bring up in front of the camera. So, they were planning to shit-stir, but Dorit stayed home and selfied for hours instead, and Kyle was mad but can't say specifically why, and then gets extra frustrated when Dorit plays this wide-eyed, surprised-at-Kyle's-meanness response. But, Kyle is not smart enough to manage this -- especially coming up against con-artist Dorit.

Dorit told everyone when she would be arriving, Kyle only got pissed when she saw she was glammed up and had done the IG photos. 

[beaker73]

So, I don’t think Kyle was mad that that Dorit was late--it was the reason she was late.  The rest of the ladies got up at 5am to be at the scheduled event for their job.  If Dorit legitimately couldn’t be there until 1pm because she had to take care of her kids (yeah, right) then that’s one thing. However, it seems like she was late because she had her glam squad curate her “workout” look complete with a wig and that stupid off the shoulder jacket and then followed that up with a photo shoot for Instagram.  And then on top of it, she says she’s thinking of leaving out early while the other women would be staying for dinner.  So, yeah, I get that Kyle was annoyed by that.  Did she overreact? Sure.  But I understand her being peeved. 

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, beaker73 said:

So, yeah, I get that Kyle was annoyed by that.  Did she overreact? Sure.  But I understand her being peeved. 

Why? It wasn’t her event and Teddi didn’t give a shit. She had no cause to be upset or peeved about Dorit’s behavior.

[Hangin Out]

Hmmmmm..Aaron’s Penis size.  Compared to who’s?  There probably has been sooo many.  Terrible, I know, lol.

[Mar]

19 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Kyle, those camouflaging leggings...ain’t camouflaging much. 

😂😂😂

[NewGranny]

32 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Why? It wasn’t her event and Teddi didn’t give a shit. She had no cause to be upset or peeved about Dorit’s behavior.

Right.  And she told Teddi that she was going to be late, so the "why" shouldn't matter to Kyle at all.  Kyle was just pissed that she had to get there early because her and Teddi are besties.  If I was Erica I would be pissed that I didn't think ahead like Dorit since she had to get up early to ride with Kyle.

[Mar]

19 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

couldn’t help but compare the scene between Lisa and her daughter and Garcelle and her sons.  Garcelle seemed natural and normal and comfortable with her kids.  Lisa was just fully determined to comment on TV that she was getting her daughter into USC without setting her up on a rowing machine.  Ooh, that Lisa, she’s so topical!  And!  Edgy!  Baby!

Rinna 🤮🤢And she of course had to laugh at her own statement

[beaker73]

37 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Why? It wasn’t her event and Teddi didn’t give a shit. She had no cause to be upset or peeved about Dorit’s behavior.

I think because the housewives are more or less obligated to attend events for the show and Dorit rolled in when she wanted for a b.s. reason. I think it's kind of like when Rinna was getting pissed at Yo for flaking out on all kinds of events.  The wives who show up to everything on time start to resent those who don't.  I dunno.  It's just a theory.  

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, beaker73 said:

I think because the housewives are more or less obligated to attend events for the show and Dorit rolled in when she wanted for a b.s. reason. I think it's kind of like when Rinna was getting pissed at Yo for flaking out on all kinds of events.  The wives who show up to everything on time start to resent those who don't.  I dunno.  It's just a theory.  

But clearly they aren’t because Lisa, Denise, Garcelle didn’t show and everyone was fine with Dorit being late. If Kyle is upset because she felt pressure to go to her bffs event that’s on her not Dorit.

[Mar]

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

I want to see a gang up on Rinna. She's out of control. Her daughters are void of any personality. You can't compete with a loud mouth phony mother like Rinna. 

Gang-up? Yes yes yes yes yes yes please. I think they’re all afraid of her because they know she will stop at nothing to bring people down

[Hiyo]

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because Lisa, Denise, Garcelle didn’t show and everyone was fine with Dorit being late

Hell, Denise only showed up for dinner, and nobody gave a crap.

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, Hiyo said:

Hell, Denise only showed up for dinner, and nobody gave a crap.

I blocked out that she even showed up for that! 

[hoodooznoodooz]

How cute was River, just standing under that table? Why don’t they film Kyle’s dogs for an hour? I’d watch that. 

Edited May 7, 2020 by hoodooznoodooz

[Hangin Out]

17 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Denise was defending Dorit getting glammed up for Teddi's event by saying, essentially, "Who the fuck cares?" and Kyle being Kyle took it personally because Denise is the least glam of all of them so she went for that super deep insult of ragamuffin. I'm sure that one burned. Denise is laying in bed with that echoing in her head as she's trying to fall asleep. Ragamuffin, ooh. 

Why are they all in each other’s business in the first place?  Don’t they all have enough to go without watching what the others are doing?  Kyle is the worst.  Worry about your husband and your own backyard.  Too much blabbering.  I wish Dorit would change her hairstyle, it’s giving me a headache pulled back that tight.

[Axie]

12 hours ago, lizajane said:

 

Same place PK is? I think PK will be keeping a low profile due to thèir sketchy financial situation - no loss there. Harry wants nothing to do with any of this crap.

 

Sometimes having a selective memory is a good thing!  I forgot all about fat, greasy, sweaty PK!

[Door County Cherry]

5 hours ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

I also just don't see the point in having the kids' friends over for this particular gathering when Denise knows fights break out during filming. I

I know.  Creating drama or trying to be interesting at these things is literally their job.  I don't know why Denise didn't have a babysitter or something if she was so worried about protecting their sensibilities. 

In fact, for all her faults, Teddi knows this is part of the job which is why she was hesitant for the others to come to her retreat.  She may have laid it on Rinna for putting that thought in her head but Rinna wasn't wrong and Teddi wasn't wrong to realize Rinna wasn't wrong. 

48 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

But clearly they aren’t because Lisa, Denise, Garcelle didn’t show and everyone was fine with Dorit being late. If Kyle is upset because she felt pressure to go to her bffs event that’s on her not Dorit.

I don't know what the rules are but I do believe they're probably required to show up to a certain number of events and can bow out of events if they have a legit conflict (which the show may or may not want to cover in itself).  So if Denise says "I'll come but I have things going on all day but can be there for the alcohol and fighting" no one is going to be upset if that's what happens.  But if another housewife says she'll be there the whole day--and then shows up late because she just felt like sleeping in, then I can see other housewives resenting it.  

It makes it harder for them to do their jobs (creating interesting conversations or drama) if they're basically the only one there.  Teddi was busy.  Sutton is kind of new.  Rinna, Garcelle and Denise had other things going on.  Then again, if Dorit had been on time, there would be no drama for the ep. 

[LibertarianSlut]

1 hour ago, beaker73 said:

I think because the housewives are more or less obligated to attend events for the show and Dorit rolled in when she wanted for a b.s. reason. I think it's kind of like when Rinna was getting pissed at Yo for flaking out on all kinds of events.  The wives who show up to everything on time start to resent those who don't.  I dunno.  It's just a theory.  

If this is true—and I’m sure there is some truth in it—fine, Kyle has been in North Carolina and New York, and that has interfered with her filming, so, yeah, if this is a work requirement, Kyle should have to show up before Dorit.

I said the same thing about Erika last year—if she is going to be touring so much that she had to miss Camille’s wedding, etc., I said she should be a former Housewife.

But even if this is all true, they should be professionals about it.  Someone said the downside of this show is that there are so many actresses on it (which I hate; I tune in to see the rich, not the famous, but that’s neither here nor there) and they are here to do a job, and if something is happening offscreen, they need to make the convincing argument that someone is doing something in the moment that is bothering them.  It makes for bad TV for someone to be mad about something they can’t talk about.  They should put the show above all else.  So if Kyle is going to make this her hill to die on—that Dorit was late to Teddi’s event—then she gets to be called petty and nosy and all sorts of things.  

I don’t even have a dog in this fight.  Aside from one cast member who I just really don’t enjoy, I like/dislike them all roughly evenly, and I think Kyle looked dumb here.  If Lisa Rinna was mad at Yolanda for not filming—if that’s the Munchausehen’s season, I block it out, because it was literally impossible for me to understand—then Lisa Rinna was being the asshole there. 

It’s just like a movie or TV.  They said that Shannon Dougherty and Jenny Garth hated each other IRL when they were filming Beverly Hills 90210, and the camera would go up and they would have to pretend to be best friends.  I think they should be able to break the fourth wall and Kyle should just be able to say to Dorit, “I was filming longer than you and I hate it and I’m mad that you got to skate,” and I think that’s the future of reality TV, but short of that, if you’re going to have a beef with someone, either make it make sense, or paste on a smile, realize that Dorit is probably in for a world of hurt in the greater scheme of things, and move on.  

[Marley]

The issue is Dorit is a fake bitch. Her photo shoot with her workout gear made me laugh. She’s so fucking phony. Also she has like four nannies so enough with her I need to take care of my kids shit. Unless her broke ass had to fire the nannies lol.

Why were Denises kids even at the party? Also they aren’t 5 I’m sure they’ve heard the types of things before the ladies were talking about.

Rinna is a bitch. She was brutal with Kim Richards so she can fuck off with her comment.

Meh to Denise really. 

Edited May 8, 2020 by Marley

[Raiderred]

The Denise and A-A-ron's(tip hat to Key&Peele)"secret life" discussion at dinner was one of the best scenes of all the HW's!  Those two are high, drunk or both at all times!  Soooo embarrassing but so fun to watch!  

[Keywestclubkid]

39 minutes ago, Marley said:

Why were Denises kids even at the party? Also they aren’t 5 I’m sure they’ve heard the types of things before the ladies were talking about.

Because it was her party at her house. Kyle has parties at her house with her kids all the time. Teddi and dorit all have. And it shouldn’t matter if her kids are 5 or 17 if she doesn’t want her kids hearing adult women talk about sleeping around isn’t that her right has their parent? Shouldn’t that be respected even if it wasn’t in her own home? Shouldn’t everyone respect her rules with her children especially when you are in her home 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[dmeets]

7 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

I want to see a gang up on Rinna. She's out of control. Her daughters are void of any personality. You can't compete with a loud mouth phony mother like Rinna. 

I thought some gears were starting to turn amongst Kyle, Dorit and Erika when Teddi brought up that she wasn't feeling weird about the text invitations until Lisa got into her head in the car, but not sure anythings going to come of it.

I chuckled at Erika's : "Gee, I thought we were at Wild Things' house." 

Edited May 7, 2020 by dmeets

[GonnahearmeRoar]

Funny Dorit talking about others accent when she created her British accent - she is from the states. Kyle said she was joking w/ Dorit at first until Dorit said I have a life. Pissed her off. 

Not sure what’s going on with Denise but she placed a cease and desist on Brandi. Brandi must’ve been inappropriate about what’s coming up later this season. 

LV I miss her so much! I know Kyle does for sure. 

[suomi]

The flames were ten feet high when LVP uttered the words "younger woman" when Portia was in the room but a table full of kids hearing Eriika bray "one penis and two vaginas" is A-OK. Got it.

[65mickey]

29 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Because it was her party at her house. Kyle has parties at her house with her kids all the time. Teddi and dorit all have. And it shouldn’t matter if her kids are 5 or 17 if she doesn’t want her kids hearing adult women talk about sleeping around isn’t that her right has their parent? Shouldn’t that be respected even if it wasn’t in her own home? Shouldn’t everyone respect her rules with her children especially when you are in her home 

Yes everyone should respect Denise's request to stop with the sex talk in ear shot of the kids. But let's not forget  that Denise on every episode since joining this show has talked and braged about her sex life and goes into way to much detail. Her 2 oldest kids are teenagers not young children. They have heard their mother every week bring up things that would make most kids want to run away from home and change their names. And no, I don't for one minute buy it when the housewives say their kids don't watch the shows. Oh they do and so do their friends and their friend's parents. So Denise stop with the pearl clutching. The cat's already out of the bag.  

[Keywestclubkid]

9 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Yes everyone should respect Denise's request to stop with the sex talk in ear shot of the kids. But let's not forget  that Denise on every episode since joining this show has talked and braged about her sex life and goes into way to much detail. Her 2 oldest kids are teenagers not young children. They have heard their mother every week bring up things that would make most kids want to run away from home and change their names. And no, I don't for one minute buy it when the housewives say their kids don't watch the shows. Oh they do and so do their friends and their friend's parents. So Denise stop with the pearl clutching. The cat's already out of the bag.  

But its not around her kids .... she is not screaming about dick with her girls standing there next to her ... it doesn't matter what she talks about when she isn't around her girls .... so by this thought process porn stars should have sex in front of their kids I mean they do it anyway its out there ... do you see how that argument falls apart?  they arnt doing it around their kids its separate from their children ... I think everyone should respect her rules with her children 

Edited May 8, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[The Ringo Kidd]

5 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But its not around her kids .... she is not screaming about dick with her girls standing there next to her ... it doesn't matter what she talks about when she isn't around her girls .... 

Where was Teddy in this discussion? She should have weighed in about how she felt.

Doesn't feel very accountable to me.

Bitch.

 

[howivesforever]

55 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Because it was her party at her house. Kyle has parties at her house with her kids all the time. Teddi and dorit all have. And it shouldn’t matter if her kids are 5 or 17 if she doesn’t want her kids hearing adult women talk about sleeping around isn’t that her right has their parent? Shouldn’t that be respected even if it wasn’t in her own home? Shouldn’t everyone respect her rules with her children especially when you are in her home 

Thank you!!!! All these excuses for bad behavior! Denise clearly asked them not to have the conversation while the kids were out there.

[tinderbox]

22 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Mauricio loves the camera.  He even took his shirt off, haha.  Wait until Fredric Ecklund comes on.  Can’t wait.

Wait.  What?  When?  How?  Why?

[Thumper]

Just starting to watch the show and Dorit is driving me crazy with regard to Teddi.   I don’t care that she was late.  She twists everything to make herself a victim.

I would love to see Kyle, Dorit, and Rinna go at each other this season.

[Bronzedog]

I wish someone would point out to Kyle that she destroyed her friendship with LVP.  Not Rinna, not Dorit, Kyle.  You can't  destroy someone else's relationships without their cooperation.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Bronzedog

[tinderbox]

44 minutes ago, tinderbox said:

Wait.  What?  When?  How?  Why?

My questions are about Fredrik.  Is he really coming in this show?

[Door County Cherry]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But its not around her kids .... she is not screaming about dick with her girls standing there next to her ...

I might be confusing the earlier dinner I'm pretty sure she did bring up Aaron's big dick at that table.  And his big muscles.  

 

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Door County Cherry said:

I might be confusing the earlier dinner I'm pretty sure she did bring up Aaron's big dick at that table.  And his big muscles.  

 

She leaned into the new girl and said it she wasn’t announcing it to the whole table so the kids could over hear 

[heatherchandler]

15 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

“Regular” people had to cough up $4650

What????  Does that include the room and food?

 

9 hours ago, link417 said:

I liked seeing Garcelle’s parenting — that’s the kind of parents I grew up with! “Oh, you want Gucci? Then you need to start making Gucci money.” LOVED when she said it would be obnoxious for her kids to have Gucci anything at this age.

 

Oh whatever Garcelle, the kid was wearing a Supreme sweatshirt.  They retail for around $200-250 but are so hard to get they resell (with tags) for around $1,200.  Who is she trying to fool??

[stcroix]

Kyle acts off to me this whole season-- like her mind is somewhere else and she's all edgy and cranky.  I wonder if it's because Mauricio has been partying some since she's been away?  She's suddenly snapping at him on camera and making comments about him being high.  Not a lot of 'honey' this and 'honey' that this year...  I dont wish them anything wrong because I know how that feels and does tend to make you tense and cranky.  But it could be an answer.

IF Kyle is perceived by Rinna and the others to be damaged by something and therefore weakened then watch them come circling like the buzzards they are.  This dinner was pretty obviously a trial takedown by them.  She saw it and leaves it looks like.  Hey, what goes around comes around Kyle! Somewhere in a pink and white mansion I can hear a British cackle in front of a tv.

[Thumper]

Yeah, but I vote Rinna goes first.

[Kiki777]

4 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Yeah, but I vote Rinna goes first.

I hope.  She is the worst of the lot.  Normally I hate it when the whole cast piles on one woman, but I would not mind a pile up on Rinna, she sucks that much.

Also it would be fun to see her cry that single soap-opera tear like she did during Blue Bunny-gate.