S10.E04: All's Fair in Glam and War

[jewel21]

After an awkward invitation, Lisa Rinna and Garcelle opt out of Teddi's fitness and wellness retreat, which is far from relaxing for the other ladies. Kyle and Erika question Dorit's all-about-me behavior. Denise is upset when her backyard dinner party takes an R-rated turn in front of her kids. The ladies are shocked when Kyle becomes inexplicably emotional.

Airdate: 05/06/2020

Spoiler warning:  Please do not talk about future storylines that have not yet occurred on the show even if they have been discussed in the press.  (i.e. why Denise stopped filming.)

[Legalbeagle421]

Let’s be real, Dorit just doesn’t want to be at the retreat. I do like this version of Sutton though. I hope her and Teddi maintain the civility. 

[FlyingEgret]

I am really surprised at the abundance of liquor and food and lack of accountability logs at Teddi's retreat...

Edited May 7, 2020 by FlyingEgret

[Axie]

Dorito, I don’t know why this would ever happen but since I don’t like you, I hope someday you have to go to the DMV everyday for a month.

[Emmeline]

Ahhhhh Rinna, that guy looked like a tourist.  I never saw paparazzi with a camera like that.

I will also add that every makeup trend does not work on everyone.  Lisa’s bright magenta eyeshadow on the inner corners of her eyes in her TH looks hideous.

Edited May 7, 2020 by Emmeline

[Legalbeagle421]

I hate to be this person, but the scenes with the children are so boring. 😴

[TexasGal]

8 minutes ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

I hate to be this person, but the scenes with the children are so boring. 😴

Agree.  More pets, less kids.

I’m surprised Mauricio didn’t just go ahead and give Kyle a great big yawn while she was telling the Dorit story.  He did not care, and was not even pretending.

[LibertarianSlut]

I don’t see the appeal of Teddi’s event.  Why wouldn’t people be able to work out, eat lunch and get a spa treatment in LA, and without Teddi barking about “free time”?  Why would they have to go to Orange County for that?  This seems...boring.  I could see this for someone who lives in a gritty, dirty city and needs a break, but this just seemed like a microcosm of their everyday lives.  

What was the point of them going if they were going to skip meditation and hole up in a hotel room with French fries?  It probably had something to do with the alcohol.  How does alcohol work with meditation anyway?  Wouldn’t they cancel eat other out?

At least Sutton apologized. And Teddi got her event televised.  

Kyle, those camouflaging leggings...ain’t camouflaging much. 

I don’t care about Amelia.  It’s hard for me to understand how she’s a working model.  Delilah, yes, Amelia, not so much.  Maybe she photographs well...she can’t speak, so she would never get a commercial or anything.  And I’m willing to bet money that it was Lisa who called the paparazzi in the first place. 

Denise is such a bore.  She has PTSD about the soot that affected her rented home last season?  This is all set up to tell us how she is soooo tired of Malibu, but she just caaaan’t leave Malibu because of the kids’ schools.  I’m sure they go to private school, and I’m sure she could move to Calabasas.  Name-dropping Malibu when you have a very average rented house shouldn’t be allowed on the same show that gave us this:

[bosawks]

I hope Denise paid the bartender well because you know he just pulled that “we’re all gems” theme out of his ass.

[Hangin Out]

Geeze .. can Denise get thru one episode without talking about Aaron’s penis?  You know what they say about people who continue to talk about sex?  They’re not getting any!  She is so damn boring.

[Mr. Miner]

13 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Agree.  More pets, less kids.

I’m surprised Mauricio didn’t just go ahead and give Kyle a great big yawn while she was telling the Dorit story.  He did not care, and was not even pretending.

He was watching River being silly. More pets! Less kids!

[Keywestclubkid]

What an ass thing to say.  She doesn’t want you talking about fucking in front of or around her kids. RESPECT that for the love of god 

[Axie]

I love how Denise is so concerned with what the kids can overhear when she says, “Can we just fucking wait until these kids are done eating?”

[Kiki777]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

He was watching River being silly. More pets! Less kids!

You know what’s funny?  I can easily remember the names of Kyle’s dogs, but not her kids.

[TexasGal]

Garcelle thinks “glam workout Barbie” or whatever Kyle said are fighting words?  Meanwhile, Dorit is like - HEY THANKS!  Weirdos.

[Rhetorica]

I just can't stand Kyle anymore. She's so entitled and assumes her position in the group is at the top...

[Legalbeagle421]

2 minutes ago, Axie said:

I love how Denise is so concerned with what the kids can overhear when she says, “Can we just fucking wait until these kids are done eating?”

I was kind of surprised that she was so concerned about it since I highly doubt she filters herself when the cameras are off. I'm sure her kids have heard a lot from her. I guess maybe she was worried because their friends were there. Why she would invite random children to a RH filmed event is beyond me lol. 

[Mr. Miner]

Did y’all know that Aaron has a big dick? 🍆

[LibertarianSlut]

I couldn’t help but compare the scene between Lisa and her daughter and Garcelle and her sons.  Garcelle seemed natural and normal and comfortable with her kids.  Lisa was just fully determined to comment on TV that she was getting her daughter into USC without setting her up on a rowing machine.  Ooh, that Lisa, she’s so topical!  And!  Edgy!  Baby!

Does anyone get the impression that PK is getting some strange in London?  

I don’t know why, but I’m not mad at Dorit for the glam photos.  She is just so thoroughly Dorit, the way Lisa is Lisa, and I don’t expect anything other than them being fabulous, flaming obnoxious assholes, so I think it’s par for the course.  Also, what would Teddi and Kyle have to fret about if there was no Lisa or Dorit?  This is one of the reasons I have a high tolerance for Sutton.  We need some friction here.  

I don’t even think Denise should joke about someone letting themselves go.  It draws too much attention to the matter.  Denise is so worried about her kids overhearing lesbian stories, but she can confirm that their stepfather still has a big dick?!?

I hope Erika enjoyed that threesome, because it doesn’t seem like she’s getting the dick laid down anymore.  

This ‘glam’ look fight is about the stupidest and most petty thing that’s ever happened on this show, and that’s saying so much.  Kyle is really trying to do the most.  She called Denise a ragamuffin though.  That was such a perfect description of her.  

I don’t think Dorit insinuated that Kyle and Teddi are having a lesbian affair.  She was saying that they speak for each other, as the film reel clearly showed.

So...because of Dorit and Lisa, respectively, Kyle lost her best friend and her sister?  Get off the cross, Kyle, you’re in Malibu and the wood could be stained with ash.  

I’m the last one to defend Denise, but Kyle seemed drunk, and she wasn’t being very nice to Denise, when it has been her MO to pretend to be “the nice one” going back as far as at least season three.  I am so prepared for Kyle to just become a bitch again, like she was season one, because I think she’ll have a much tougher fight on her hands than her drunk sister, a sedated divorcee, and a drunk anorexic (Kim, Camille, and Taylor for anyone keeping track).  But if you are going to become the bitch...own it, baby!  Don’t stomp off with your stoner husband like some victim.  

[Axie]

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

[Hangin Out]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Did y’all know that Aaron has a big dick? 🍆

Maybe next episode she’ll tell us exactly how many inches.  Or bring a tape measure.

2 minutes ago, Axie said:

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha .. Canada?

[Saltgypsie]

Im just glad that Kyle is finally getting her moment in the shit seat.  I've never liked her since she hid Brandis crutch.  The mean girl is finally gonna get hers!  Bring it on! Oh..and enough of Faye! She's looking a little like Michael Jackson with all her plastic surgery!

[janiema]

Too much Kyle this episode. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Denise doesn’t have her children watch this show . So her talking about “adult things” around adults on this show wouldn’t matter. I’m not understanding the outrage for her not wanting her kids to hear this and asking the ladies to please wait until they had left. And it looked like more then just her girls were there ..... to take offense for a parent not wanting to have  adult women talking about fucking with them feet away with their friends .. I think that would be any parent’s reaction 

[DivaLasVegas82]

I was very annoyed with Kyle this episode. WTF does she care so much that Dorit spent time in glam or taking pictures on Instagram? Teddi didn't care, and it was her event. I'm thinking Kyle is carrying around some residual anger towards Dorit because she blames her for her and LVP not being friends anymore. But Kyle chose to go against LVP. Dorit didn't make her do that.

13 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Denise doesn’t have her children watch this show . So her talking about “adult things” around adults on this show wouldn’t matter. I’m not understanding the outrage for her not wanting her kids to hear this and asking the ladies to please wait until they had left. And it looked like more then just her girls were there ..... to take offense for a parent not wanting to have  adult women talking about fucking with them feet away with their friends .. I think that would be any parent’s reaction 

I agree. Denise had every right to try to control the conversation in her home if she felt it was inappropriate. But given that Sami and Lola's father is Charlie Sheen, there's no telling what inappropriate things they've already heard or been exposed to.

[DivaLasVegas82]

23 minutes ago, Axie said:

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

I get the feeling that he doesn't really want to be on the show. Same with Tom.

[Guest]

Sorry, Teddi.  I forgot the show was on and missed your retreat.  Didn't show up until Denise's dinner.

It was really strange that a table full of parents didn't give a shit about the topic of conversation when a bunch of kids were eating dinner a few feet away.  Even if their own kids are grown or not there, I'd think that enough would take a hint at some point to shut up the others.  I wonder how liquored up they were at that point. 

Kyle just encountered what happens when you go along with removing everyone's enemy/target from the show.  Kyle isn't the saint and good friend she pretends to be and Rinna/Teddi will find any opportunity to do unto others before they do unto them.

[Hangin Out]

6 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I get the feeling that he doesn't really want to be on the show. Same with Tom.

Mauricio loves the camera.  He even took his shirt off, haha.  Wait until Fredric Ecklund comes on.  Can’t wait.

[DivaLasVegas82]

I was LoL when Lisa shouted "Paparazzi" in her scene with Amelia. It was only one or two cameramen out there, yet Lisa was acting like she was being followed by a herd of paparazzi. Like someone said, I think she either called them or her and Amelia went to a restaurant that she knows paparazzi hang out at. A lot of C and D List like Lisa celebrities go to paparazzi friendly places to get photographed.

[nexxie]

47 minutes ago, Axie said:

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

Let’s talk about Harry...

[65mickey]

As for not wanting her children to hear the table conversation Denise knows that when these women drink they don't talk they scream. And the topic of converation is always sex, and the kinkier the better especially from Denise.  As for her children not watching the show her children are teens. Even if they don't watch the show with mom they have computers, smart phones and they watch as much as they want. They are probably not shocked at anything they heard from the adults. I think the reason Denise was freaked out was because there were other people's kids there. And she doesn't want the parents of these kids telling them they can't associate with her kids.  I would not want my teen hanging out at the Richards' house. But once she asked the women to tone it down they should have complied. They have no manners and no class. Would Kyle want her daughters hearing this? 

Edited May 7, 2020 by 65mickey

[eXiled]

53 minutes ago, Axie said:

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

Camping?

[janiema]

I think that the kids at the party are aware of all these things. They just don’t want to know that their parents’ friends are into them.

[DivaLasVegas82]

1 hour ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Let’s be real, Dorit just doesn’t want to be at the retreat. I do like this version of Sutton though. I hope her and Teddi maintain the civility. 

I didn't mind Sutton in this episode either. But that's probably because she wasn't featured very much.

I think all the women should have stayed home like Garcelle did. It's clear none of them wanted to be there...not that I blame them. The retreat looked super boring.

[nexxie]

Denise was so worried about what the kids might hear, you’d think their father was anyone but Charlie WhoBringsHookersToThanksgivingWithTheKids Sheen.

[Rambunctiouscurls]

58 minutes ago, Axie said:

Where’s Harry Hamlin during all these couples dinners?

Let's talk about the husband.

[RealHousewife]

Kyle really needed to back off Dorit. So what if she was late to an event where the host said over and over she didn't even care? Dorit did nothing to Kyle to deserve being picked apart like that. Leave her be! Her glam wasn't hurting anyone. Wasn't one of Kyle's issues with LVP the fact she thought LVP made her out to be a bad friend? Was that not what Kyle was doing to Dorit? Are "selfish" and "shallow" complimentary? And Dorit simply defended herself saying she had a life. Kyle took that as an attack on her, an implication she didn't have a life. She said that she needed to "retaliate." I didn't hear Dorit tell Kyle she didn't also have a life. Sheesh. There are lots of Kyle haters on here. I typically enjoy her, but she was not very nice this episode. I didn't like her comment about Denise's hair either. It was mean girl. 

Jagger is all kinds of adorable. 

I get Denise being concerned about what her kids and their friends hear, but she needs to ease up on her own TMI talk. When the host is AGAIN talking about her husband's ginormous penis at dinner, it's no surprise that everyone forgets there are kids nearby. 

Lisa's USC line was hilarious! 

Edited May 7, 2020 by RealHousewife

[Rahul]

I have no dog in this fight. I detest Dorit, but I also cannot stand Kyle. Let those two tear each other down and look like fools while doing it. I'm all for it!

[Straycat80]

Teddi’s retreat seemed boring but who cares that Dorito was late. Get a life Kyle. 
I like Garcelle as a Mom, ‘you’re not getting anything Gucci’. 
Denise had my type of party, pizza and sundae bar. She was ridiculous about the conversation at the dinner table tho, especially when she constantly talks about her sex life and her husbands penis. 
Kyle has it out for Dorito this season and that’s ok with me because I can’t stand her or PK. 

[MVFrostsMyPie]

2 hours ago, Emmeline said:

 

I will also add that every makeup trend does not work on everyone.  Lisa’s bright magenta eyeshadow on the inner corners of her eyes in her TH looks hideous.

I have yet to find anyone for whom magenta eyeshadow enhances their beauty.

[UsernameFatigue]

Though I think the whole disagreement between Kyle and Dorito was producer driven, I am just glad they are for the moment at least not picking on Teddi. I also like Sutton in this epi - toned way down both in her actions and dress. A big improvement on both fronts. 

Like others, I could not care less about anyone's children. And sorry, I do not think Dorito's son is cute at all - poor kid looks just like his dad. 

I would have felt worse for Denise regarding all the sex talk at dinner if she hadn't just referenced Aaron's big penis for the gazillionth time. But honestly, I don't believe for a minute that these women cannot get together for a few hours without rehashing some ridiculous she said-she said scenario. It is obviously seen are part of their job, but it is a boring part to me.

I couldn't understand why Kyle couldn't understand the meaning of the diamond ice sculpture at Denise's party. I thought it was an obvious nod to the diamonds they hold at the opening of each episode. 

[Callaphera]

2 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

I am really surprised at the abundance of liquor and food and lack of accountability logs at Teddi's retreat...

Teddi probably considers it the one cheat day for the year that her All In victims er... customers get to enjoy more than 400 calories a day. No doubt they all got shamed the next day in multiple text messages when they sent in their daily meal picture of one wilted lettuce leaf, one almond, and two carrot sticks that they eat in their car while sniffing the air outside a KFC. 

As you can see, I'm a big fan of Teddi's eating disorder wrapped in a pyramid scheme program. Account this, bitch. 🖕

Edited May 7, 2020 by Callaphera

[UsernameFatigue]

One thing I didn't understand about the retreat. Dorito said that she wasn't going to the meditation part because she couldn't meditate for an hour and a half. But then Kyle and Erika didn't go either? But I guess Sutton did because they didn't show her in the suite with the other three? (Maybe they showed her at the meditation, I don't remember). So was a scene cut where Kyle and Erika decided not to go as well? 

[Momager]

Will someone please explain what Kyle was saying about Denise at the dinner (when Denise got up from the table)?  She came across as a mean girl and it seemed totally unwarranted. I couldn’t figure out what was going on.

[RealHousewife]

2 minutes ago, Momager said:

Will someone please explain what Kyle was saying about Denise at the dinner (when Denise got up from the table)?  She came across as a mean girl and it seemed totally unwarranted. I couldn’t figure out what was going on.

"This one, who's never worn anything but a ****ing mop top ponytail her whole life is all of a sudden like really, ragamuffin." Kyle didn't even feel bad about that because in her confessional she said that ragamuffin wasn't the nicest word, that she could have said worse. It was definitely mean girl. Denise is a beautiful woman. 

[jaybird2]

4 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

"This one, who's never worn anything but a ****ing mop top ponytail her whole life is all of a sudden like really, ragamuffin." Kyle didn't even feel bad about that because in her confessional she said that ragamuffin wasn't the nicest word, that she could have said worse. It was definitely mean girl. Denise is a beautiful woman. 

but what was in reference to....i came in late and it appears that statement came out of the blue...,,am i wrong?

[RealHousewife]

2 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

but what was in reference to....i came in late and it appears that statement came out of the blue...,,am i wrong?

I think she was annoyed that Denise was defending Dorit. 

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

but what was in reference to....i came in late and it appears that statement came out of the blue...,,am i wrong?

Denise was defending Dorit getting glammed up for Teddi's event by saying, essentially, "Who the fuck cares?" and Kyle being Kyle took it personally because Denise is the least glam of all of them so she went for that super deep insult of ragamuffin. I'm sure that one burned. Denise is laying in bed with that echoing in her head as she's trying to fall asleep. Ragamuffin, ooh. 

[Legalbeagle421]

I also found it odd when Dorit was talking about Edwin and Mauricio's cultural backgrounds and how that's bonded Kyle and Teddi. I'm pretty sure neither Mauricio nor Edwin has an accent of any sort. 🤷🏾‍♀️Weird comment from her lol. 

[princelina]

Everything seemed off about this show tonight.

First of all, I've gone from thinking Teddi was worried about them ruining her retreat, to thinking her "retreat" was actually bringing in a few clients who wanted a chance to be on tv in return for a televised event for her to host/film.  Apparently it was a 90 minute boxing class, followed by lunch, followed by 4 hours of free time, meditation, dinner and done.   Wouldn't a real retreat that was her "business" include at least one seminar/talk/teaching from Teddi?  A couple different exercise sessions?  Something about nutrition?   Teddi interacting with her clients/fans?  The whole thing seemed not only fake, but a poorly done fake.

As did Rinna carrying on like an idiot for the "paparazzi" who didn't seem to exist, while her completely unrecognizable daughter held her head in her hands and lamented leaving her sunglasses behind 😄 

Kyle seemed completely unhinged for most of the episode, Dorit's little forehead curl was obnoxious, and Denise can GTFO worrying about her kids/their friends when she talks about her sex life with Mr. Big Dick on every episode of the show.  In her defense, though, she probably was expecting them to snipe about whatever Kyle and Dorit were turning into a "thing" rather than getting caught up in lesbian tryst/threesome one-upping before dessert 😄