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5 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Toms River is a Super Fund site?

My friend Google tells me, "Ciba is one of two Superfund sites in Toms River; the other is Reich Farm, located off Route 9 in the Pleasant Plains section of town. Ciba-Geigy, initially called Toms River Chemical Co., made millions of pounds of industrial dyes and resins on its property from 1952 until all manufacturing operations ceased in 1996."

Here's an article:

https://www.app.com/story/news/local/land-environment/2018/04/12/clean-up-toms-river-superfund-site-wont-finished-decades/506912002/

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Yikes. Sharon got a face full of fillers.

 

I think Heather Tom would be better as poor little rich girl Victoria again instead of AH. 

That portrait of Victoria is just all kinds of awful.

Moses actor is adorable but has a voice like an 8 year old.

 

Ashland actor did a nice job with story about his past. Nick is such a judgy dunbass. Like he wouldn't have done the same. Or worse.

 

 

 

 Lol Bobby DeFranco from Jersey. Typical stereotype. But funny.

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22 minutes ago, seasons said:

 

 

 

 Are the three inch dark roots supposed to be part of Mariah's meltdown?

I noticed that too and I hate it. I loved her light auburn locks! I did love Victoria's lilac dress.

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49 minutes ago, seasons said:

Lol Bobby DeFranco from Jersey. Typical stereotype. But funny.

Umm, yeah.

This is the reward I get for not FFing? In the Genoa City milieu, does Italian/Mediterranean spell dubious/lower-class, perhaps mobby? Have they checked out Gianni Agnielli? Oh why do I ask?

You know, I accept the enduring block-headedness of show--it's Anglos Ahoy and Aspirational as hell--or are they just levelling the assumed-identity levels for "foreigners", what with Victor being originally German and all.

And I accept and acknowledge that DOOL with DiMeras [Italian] and Kyriakoi [Greek--remembering that plural made my head hurt] and GH with Cassidines [Greek] work off the corrupt Old World vs New World thing. Mind you, where does possession fit here, enquiring minds want to know? But...GC is überAnglo, and Ashland Locke is pure soap Anglo naming.

Okay, rant over.

But that was a revelation? The culmination of months of turgid crap?

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2 hours ago, Julyolo said:

Ashland's Bobby DeFranco back story is giving me "The Talented Mr. Ripley"  vibes.

Or Don Draper. I suspect it might go like that Viggo Mortenson movie History of Violence??? where a guy gets outed and his crime family (that he ran from) comes after him years later (Like he stole enough to buy a station or two) Also that creepy Nicole Kidman movie with no sets, where she was a criminals daughter hiding out. Dog town?

1 hour ago, seasons said:

 

That portrait of Victoria is just all kinds of awful

The head is tooo big for the size - you often try to keep the head regular size or below unless it's a huge picture 

1 hour ago, seasons said:

 

Ashland actor did a nice job with story about his past. Nick is such a judgy dunbass. Like he wouldn't have done the same. Or worse.

 

 

 Lol Bobby DeFranco from Jersey. Typical stereotype. But funny.

Lots worse. Tony Contralto? 

8 minutes ago, rcc said:

Richard Burgi is one fine actor as he showed today. This show is lucky to have him. 

Big fan here. The other actors will probably be happy to see him go - hope he gets a good ending.

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13 minutes ago, crowsworks said:

Or Don Draper. I suspect it might go like that Viggo Mortenson movie History of Violence??? where a guy gets outed and his crime family (that he ran from) comes after him years later (Like he stole enough to buy a station or two) Also that creepy Nicole Kidman movie with no sets, where she was a criminals daughter hiding out. Dog town?

The head is tooo big for the size - you often try to keep the head regular size or below unless it's a huge picture 

Lots worse. Tony Contralto? 

Big fan here. The other actors will probably be happy to see him go - hope he gets a good ending.

Yeah, if true then the two bad actors in his scene today will be happy. They both looked so bad in comparison.

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1 hour ago, seasons said:

Yikes. Sharon got a face full of fillers.

Ooof ... When is she going to stop going to the 2 for 1 sale at the estheticians?

And her roots could be seen from space.

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I think Heather Tom would be better as poor little rich girl Victoria again instead of AH

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She's doing nothing on B&B.

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That portrait of Victoria is just all kinds of awful.

Victor glowering from above the mantel was no prize either.

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Moses actor is adorable but has a voice like an 8 year old.

He's okay. Moses and Faith are badly written: their special date was dinner at a Top of the Tower (a restaurant set we haven't seen in 10+ months) private room for filet and serenaded by a musician.

What teenager wants to go out like their parents celebrating their anniversary?

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Ashland actor did a nice job with story about his past. Nick is such a judgy dunbass. Like he wouldn't have done the same. Or worse.

The only thing salvaging The Locke-ness Secret Story is Richard Burgi dramatization.

Nick shouldn't throw stones about youthful indiscretions ... JT, anyone?

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 Lol Bobby DeFranco from Jersey. Typical stereotype. But funny.

That was not good.

Show gaining speed as it goes downhill.

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1 hour ago, pearlite said:

Umm, yeah.

This is the reward I get for not FFing? In the Genoa City milieu, does Italian/Mediterranean spell dubious/lower-class, perhaps mobby? Have they checked out Gianni Agnielli? Oh why do I ask?

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But that was a revelation? The culmination of months of turgid crap?

My guess with NotBilly and Nick disinvited to the wedding, they will team up and research in earnest (because earlier attempts to discover Locke-ness' background wasn't serious) where Locke-ness money came from. That's how the Katzenjammer Mafia are discovered as Locke-ness financial backer, and the merger with Newman Enterprises is an avenue to wash their illegal proceeds.

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4 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

What teenager wants to go out like their parents celebrating their anniversary?

Is there anyone in the writers room who wasn't born before the Truman administration??  I'm waiting for Moses to ask Faith if she wants to cut a rug.  Maybe he'll teach her the Foxtrot while the cook prepares their Baked Alaska.

Just wait till he slips her a Metamucil mickey.

Worst teen scene ever - except for any scene involving Dummer.  

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20 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

 

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Hi Zemiar!

Hey Cupid Stunt!

I've changed my username to my old TWoP name from Zevim. I doubt that it'd ring a bell though, as I mostly lurk with a quick comment every once a in while.

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19 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

I don't mean to keep harping on the real Toms River, but I coincidentally came across this info in something I was reading.

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There also has been childhood cancer associated with Toms River.  Today Toms River is a nice community on the Jersey Shore and it’s considered a safe place to live. 
 

New Jersey has a few toxic sites plus gas refineries. There was one owned by Hess in Elizabeth, NJ or what is known as exit 13 on the New Jersey Turnpike.  There was an old joke about Elizabeth, NJ. You can see it for a mile and smell it for 2. There is even a cult movie about a “fictional” NJ town. It was called The Toxic Avenger. It’s about a mild mannered boy that falls into a vat of toxic waist and turns into a monster. 

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Robert DeFranco aka Ashland Locke had a very credible story but the ass hole that is Banana Breath is still skeptical. If I remember correctly didn’t Banana Breath via Victor cover up that a girl was paralyzed at one of Banana Breath’s pool party. Maybe Victor wasn’t physically abusive of Banana Breath but mentally abusive so Banana Breath really wanted nothing to do with Victor and his company.   Basically the same for Olive. She has been trying to distance herself and being at odds with Victor to prove her self worth.  With Olive and Banana Breath the comparison is not Apples and Oranges it more like Red Apples and Green Apples. 

Banana Breath’s only hard choice was who he should fuck next and Nostrils only hard choice was to bluff or fold. Lying and cheating is not a foreign concept to neither Banana Breath nor Nostrils.  I also don’t believe that’s a foreign concept to Olive either. Olive is no angel either. 

And there you have Sharon fucking up Mariah’s recovery. Maybe Mariah doesn’t want to talk about it but there is Sharon acting more like a 5 cent therapist than a concerned mother.  Than there is Sharon trying to help but she just can’t keep her big mouth shut.  Tessa came to Sharon in confidentiality but Sharon just had to say something about having a baby.

Talk about comparisons. Comparing Mariah’s and Sharon’s acting ability is like comparing an Oak Tree to an acorn.  

So the Top of The Tower still exists and you still need a reservation to eat there unlike Society. Now the question becomes if the Top of The Tower still exists than why wasn’t the Newman Media launch party held there?  

Today’s master class in acting came from Ashland and Mariah with a yeoman’s class from Tessa and Olive. We also has a master class, from Banana Breath, in being a prick. Sharon was just her idiotic self. 

 

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Wait, Ashland is Bobby D? Oh, not *that* Bobby D. Phew! 😉

Abby finally got a nanny. It's a miracle. Tater must be so relieved to get a break from her smothering.

Ashland was using his Batman voice again today. Lol, for Halloween I think he and Victoria should go trick or treating as the Dark Knight and Vicki Vale.

Funny how Sharon's being all mama bear now but most of the time Mariah was missing she was pretty much useless. 😑

Did Ashland have plastic surgery? Once he became a famous business mogul how did his parents not recognize him on TV or in magazines? Sigh, his story has more holes than pasta strainer.

Sharon, the Chancellor mansion is not Mariah's home. What part of "temporary" do you not understand? She wasn't going to live there forever. You're so stupid. 🙄

Moses said Devon has a new singer named Audrina. Are we supposed to know who that is?

At least Nick beat Billy to the punch on Ashland's big secret. Except for the part where Ashland got his startup money, anyway. OCD Billy will probably stay on the case. Bleh.

Bravo, RB. You brought your A+ game today.

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Let's not forget if they're pushing the "criminal Italians" trope that the wedding is in Tuscany! Maybe revenge will be meted out to Bobby De Franco/Ashland in the Homeland. Jesse Gaines and his daddy could have been legal facilitators for Ashland's mob denizens roaming the mean streets of Tom's River. Another loose end seems to be the siblings or parents of Ashland Locke. Did they never notice that some mogul had the  identical name as their runaway son?

 

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6 hours ago, seasons said:

Moses actor is adorable but has a voice like an 8 year old.

I think he has the voice of a middle aged woman.

4 hours ago, SiouxB said:

Anybody else think of the DeFranco family from the 70s ?

🎵Heartbeat.... it’s a love beat🎵
 
oh god

Every time I heard his name!

6 minutes ago, Julyolo said:

Let's not forget if they're pushing the "criminal Italians" trope that the wedding is in Tuscany! Maybe revenge will be meted out to Bobby De Franco/Ashland in the Homeland. Jesse Gaines and his daddy could have been legal facilitators for Ashland's mob denizens roaming the mean streets of Tom's River. Another loose end seems to be the siblings or parents of Ashland Locke. Did they never notice that some mogul had the  identical name as their runaway son?

 

Didn't Ashland say that the "real" Ashland was all alone in the world? Even though he was a teenager? I dunno, there seemed to be holes in that story, no matter how passionately RB delivered it. And I have to question this - Ashland had previously stated that his parents both passed away, right? So was he telling the truth, or was he telling the "real" Ashland's truth, and the DeFranco family is alive and well (and still singing)?

And I wonder, will Reed go to Tuscany for his mom's big wedding? The closer we get, the more I'm wondering if there really will be a wedding.

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Y'all are saying Bobby DeFranco and I'm sitting over here saying Bobby DiFranco, yo! You fucking jerkoff! As in hard core Jersey Italian. I was thinking Assland was headed towards a reveal that his daddy dearest worked for the mob and he had to hide his identity for fear of what his father and father's friends might to him if they found him. That would have allowed an entire impending mobster story line to unfold. But nope. Assland is just little Bobby DiFranco from Joisey (what exit?!?), *yawn*  And not for nothing but for the love of god why didn't MOP tell Dickolas to not say anything to notBilly? He's going to run with this shit.

So are there other skeletons in the Ass closet, what thinketh us?

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I think the sound is bizarre on most TV shows. Like the mics are so powerful that you have to talk really soft. And for Ashland, it comes out as a whisper most times. It is annoying. 
 

His story is good but we still don’t know why he was being blackmailed or where he got the money to buy the TV stations. 

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5 hours ago, Zemiar said:

Hey Cupid Stunt!

I've changed my username to my old TWoP name from Zevim. I doubt that it'd ring a bell though, as I mostly lurk with a quick comment every once a in while.

Good to see another former TwoPer on the forum. Don't be a stranger Zemiar.

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2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

 

And I wonder, will Reed go to Tuscany for his mom's big wedding? The closer we get, the more I'm wondering if there really will be a wedding.

I'm only sure there will be a wedding because of that dress Sally is making.  Somebody has to wear it and Adam doesn't have the hips to carry it off.

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I've always pretty much disliked Nick, but now I straight up just want something awful to happen to this self righteous buffoon.   Then again, he does have Phyllis, so maybe...

Poor Tessa.  She was put in a horrible situation and absolutely needs someone to talk to about this.  It's not Mariah's fault, but she's not thinking straight and isn't exactly receptive to what Tessa's saying.  What a fuckup Sharon is.  She's like an anti-psychiatrist.  

Started to get nervous when Devon was ruminating about "helping" Mariah.  Please, dude, don't even think about what you're probably thinking about.  

 

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23 minutes ago, boes said:

I'm only sure there will be a wedding because of that dress Sally is making.  Somebody has to wear it and Adam doesn't have the hips to carry it off.

You KNOW that Slimey Sally will sabotage Mop's wedding dress and just happen to have a back up in her suitcase...

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9 hours ago, gingerella said:

Sally will sabotage Mop's wedding dress

You mean that toga that Lauren tied on her like the sheets you see thrown over the furniture in old timey haunted houses? I hope so!

Hey mop, how would you like a nice Hawaiian punch? (the red flavor, of course!)

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Give me a break Olive Oyl who Ashland really is. That was 40 years ago and your still going to hold that over his head?  Olive you were no angel and you did very questionable things. Does Ashland land know all about you past indiscretions?  Banana Breath, you horrible piece of shit,  who gave you the right to judge Ashland. You’re not above reproach either. 

Nikki is going to be in a major quandary in defending her son or standing with her daughter. The lesser of two evils, Olive, would be my choice but it seems that Nikki is on her son’s side.  Nikki is the essence of  Judgey Judy. Why is it that Nikki and others can’t remember things in their past but judge people on their past. I don’t think Nikki ever told Victor about the son, Det Deadwood, she had with Paul.  Nikki is a killer and Ashland is not. 

Banana Breath feels he’s Olive’s knight in shining armor when it comes to her relationship but where is Banana Breath’a knight to ward him off from Rodan. By the way Rodan’s middle name is Betrayal.  Of all people Rodan should keep her CAW CAW to herself. Maybe Ashland took the identity of a person who was already dead but Rodan tried to make two people dead. Rodan also succeeded, maybe not intentionally, of making one person dead. 

I’m a little miffed at Mariah today. Tessa is 100% correct about Mariah having a knee jerk reaction but Mariah is not listening. Tessa gave you love and understanding to be a surrogate but Mariah has to understand if Tessa doesn’t want to be pregnant at this time.  In my humble opinion it’s better to wait until Mariah can get pregnant again. Mariah is the one that needs to be pregnant more than Tessa. The pregnancy and birth would give Mariah more intimacy with the baby as she shared with Bowie. The interactions between Mariah and Tessa are the best Y&R has to offer bar none. 

Jack’s and Ashland’s interactions would be exceptional also if they had better characters to interact with.  Jack and Sally come close as does Jack and Tracy. 

For me personally LOVE is LOVE. When you love someone that deeply, it doesn’t matter what was in the past. It’s the present that is ultimately the most important.  If you let a persons past effect you, than it’s not unconditional love.  

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Poor Jabot jet pilot. The flight plan to Milan has changed 93 times in a 24-hour period. 🤯

The right thing, Nick? FOH. It wasn't your job to mess up your sister's life, especially after she told you to leave it alone. You and Billy are heroes in your own minds.

Were Tessa's eyelids red from crying or was that red eyeshadow? 🤔

And now the weather over the Atlantic has turned bad. Yeesh, Jack could've already been in Italy by now if he hadn't been futzing around with Phyllis and Nick and their drama.

Whee, Nikki gave Ashland her patented, "Don't make have to kill you" look. If he don't know he better ask somebody.

So now Traci's going to be on the Jabot jet too? The pilot will probably quit when Jack calls him with yet another change to the flight plan.

Aw gosh, Mariah pretending to be asleep while Tessa was talking. That likely doesn't bode well. 😕

I see you, Show. Trying to make sense out of why Jack would be taking counsel from GhostDina now instead of GhostJohn. Nah, not buying it. IMO Jack shouldn't be listening to romantic advice from the woman who's largely responsible for his abandonment issues.

Re the previews: but wait, THERE'S MORE? Good grief, Ashland, can you just cough up the whole story once and for all? I mean, you are seriously wearing out your long welcome. 😐

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Olive is in the wrong in berating Nick for trying to help.  He appears to really care for his sister and the idea she could be getting herself into real trouble if she marries someone  who could be a Soprano’s New Jersey mafia dude.  And, why did Grandpire give Olive the Tuscany villa?  What does Nick, or Abby or Adam get?  Bupkis?  

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Olive is in the wrong in berating Nick for trying to help.  He appears to really care for his sister and the idea she could be getting herself into real trouble if she marries someone  who could be a Soprano’s New Jersey mafia dude

Sorry I am going to respectfully disagree. Nick is with Phyllis. Phyllis. She isn't any better than a mafia dude. He has no leg to stand on in judging anyone's much less Victoria's choices in romantic partners.

Plus, Victoria is an adult. She really doesn't need her father, brother and mother 'protecting' her. Lawd.

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5 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Olive is in the wrong in berating Nick for trying to help.  He appears to really care for his sister and the idea she could be getting herself into real trouble if she marries someone  who could be a Soprano’s New Jersey mafia dude.  And, why did Grandpire give Olive the Tuscany villa?  What does Nick, or Abby or Adam get?  Bupkis?  

I don't know with Nick.......maybe he cares THIS time, but he sure didn't mind terrorizing her when he pretended to be JT.  He - and Victor, usually - stick their noses in her life whenever she's involved with a man.  That seems a bit Neanderthal to me.

As to what he gets, I think Victor is leaving him his black teeshirt of virility in his will. He already got half a billion of Victor's money, as did Abby and Victoria in that lawsuit and then gave it away.  Besides, just think what he'd do with an Italian villa.  There'd be a waterslide in the fountain and that Underground sign over the entrance in no time.

Adam just was given a company and Abby has the best gift of all - he leaves her alone.

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On 9/30/2021 at 1:22 PM, seasons said:

Yikes. Sharon got a face full of fillers.

Thanks. I knew she looked...different, but I couldn't quite figure out what it was!

On 9/30/2021 at 2:42 PM, rcc said:

Richard Burgi is one fine actor as he showed today. This show is lucky to have him. 

I hope he's not going anywhere soon. But I'm worried.

On 9/30/2021 at 2:51 PM, peacheslatour said:

Soooo, Moses and Faith dined at the Top of the Tower? And we don't get to see it? Thanks, assholes.

They talked about that damned date ALL WEEK!! WHY?

On 9/30/2021 at 9:02 PM, gingerella said:

I was thinking Assland was headed towards a reveal that his daddy dearest worked for the mob and he had to hide his identity for fear of what his father and father's friends might to him if they found him. That would have allowed an entire impending mobster story line to unfold. 

What you were hoping for was exactly what I feared. We already lived through that scenario with Cane and the Moo Mafia. Don't need to see that ever again.

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Nikki is the latest New Man who really needs to be told off, or worse.  I can't fault her for protecting (or thinking she's protecting) her kids, but there's something just particularly unctuous about her being the Newman family hitlady.  2017 Nikki was so much better on her own, and she was drunk then.  

Cosigning on Saint Dina being part of Jack's problem, not the solution.  

Thought yesterday was bad with Tessa/Mariah, but today was getting heartbreaking.  Sorry, but Mariah needs to pursue another angle of getting help than guilt tripping Tessa into motherhood.  

 

 

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18 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Of all people Rodan should keep her CAW CAW to herself. Maybe Ashland took the identity of a person who was already dead but Rodan tried to make two people dead. Rodan also succeeded, maybe not intentionally, of making one person dead. 

Are you talking about Dr Tim? Because Sasha Green's murder was totally intentional.

LOL on the "CAW CAW".

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3 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Are you talking about Dr Tim? Because Sasha Green's murder was totally intentional.

LOL on the "CAW CAW".

I was talking about Dr Tim. I wasn’t watching when Rodan CAW CAWED on Sasha. Another reason for Rodan to shut her hypocritical beak. 

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1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Isn't he the one that fell victim to her sessay dancing?

I believe that’s correct. Rodan tried to seduce him into keeping quiet about Rodan running down Cricket.  Dr Tim decided to have a heart attack and die instead of playing hide the salami with Rodan.  

On another note, Olive getting the Tuscany Estate is like getting a white elephant. Taxes, upkeep, caretakers etc must be a fortune and I don’t believe Olive has Victor type money even with Ashland liquidating his assets.  
 

Lastly, even if Ashland is Tony Soprano’s son, Banana Breath has no skin in the game to go behind Olive’s back.  Whatever Jesse was blackmailing Ashland for is most likely not related to being in the mob or any connection to the mob. Paying “tribute” would be a hell of a lot more than 300K.  Beside, Olive would not be anymore vulnerable, to the mob or any of Ashland’s nefarious actions, than Tara or Harrison would be. 

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