S18.E08: Sheer Genius

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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The designers face a one-day challenge using sexy, sheer fabrics; staying in the game becomes more and more difficult for several designers who are reaching their personal limits and question their ability to make it to the end.

Original air date: 1/30/20

[nb360]

Sergio describing his design (rough translation): "My design is yet another story of how I'm going to appropriate another person's narrative and demonstrate their amazing political courage."

[jacksgirl]

Color me confused. These models walk down the runway in swim suits. Why is sheer more revealing? I mean, I get it, sheer is see-through, but with are we gonna see nakid models? Prob not on the TV.

[LennieBriscoe]

Drat. I was hoping for Alan. 

[Archer27]

Christian told Victoria what most have been thinking...same dress design over and over. Her response, "Life is cruel." Huh? 

[nb360]

I'm sorry, but I'm with Delvin on this one:  Victoria does not need to be coddled. 

Edited to add: Okay, so Sergio has one deeming quality in helping Nancy. 

Edited January 31, 2020 by nb360

[TexasGal]

Victoria’s model reallllllly didn’t care to hear her sob story about having nothing because she almost quit blah blah. 

Delvin’s skirt is so pretty.

[NYGirl]

Why oh why did they have to coax her back.  We were so close to getting rid go her!!! 

[jacksgirl]

No way Sergio is going home. He has had no screen time.

[Archer27]

Just now, NYGirl said:

Why oh why did they have to coax her back.  We were so close to getting rid go her!!! 

I was shouting at my tv, "Let her leave!"

[Archer27]

I love Geoffrey's, Devin's and Nancy's. Sergio's dress did not need the fringe.  

[Angeleyes]

Everyone should have said to Victoria, “Okay, bye now!” It was such an obvious attention grab. She wanted everyone to beg her to stay because she was mad that Christian called her out for once again trying to ignore the challenge and make the same damn dress. If she had questions about sheer then she should have gone down the aisle at mood Christian tried to direct her to or ask him questions. 

[Thumper]

Or she could have googled the word “sheer.”

[Rhetorica]

I like Sergio. I think he is sincere when he offers help to others. Yes, he does have a great deal of self confidence, which doesn't mean he's wrong about his creations. 

[Archer27]

What the heck is Nina talking about? Victoria's dress is AWFUL!

[CherryMalotte]

Sergio needs a big spoonful of humble shoved somewhere...geez.  But I did like his dress, it did look fab on the model. 

Okay, now is Victoria blaming her lack of understanding for her poor garment, because I'm calling bullshit on that.  Christian is there at mood to help you and he pointed out aisle after aisle of sheer fabrics for cripes sake.  It's time to cut her. 

[Thumper]

Oh good lord, they are going to keep Drama Queen Victoria ...

[Archer27]

Just now, Thumper said:

Oh good lord, they are going to keep Drama Queen Victoria ...

It seems that way...and I guess Chelsea will go. Ugh

[Archer27]

I just cannot stand Sergio! He is so darn smug and arrogant.

[Rhetorica]

Well crap, Victoria stays!!!!

[MrsClaus]

The judges need new glasses.

[Nidratime]

God, I hate this. Victoria is such a self-centered, little pain in the a$$. Can't stand her. She was in the bottom one time and she was so insulted that they couldn't see her repetitive genius, she couldn't take it. That woman better not win.

[nb360]

16 minutes ago, Rhetorica said:

I like Sergio. I think he is sincere when he offers help to others. Yes, he does have a great deal of self confidence, which doesn't mean he's wrong about his creations. 

I won't be a hater: Props to Sergio for the win😘

[Angeleyes]

It’s such BS. Victoria is once again given the green light to ignore the challenge so that she can make whatever she wants. She does this every week. She ignores the challenge and is either highly praised by the judges or she claims a lack of translation if she is critiqued. No mention from the judges this week that her garment was not sheer at all. Chelsea’s garment had issues, but it’s because she changed her design at the last minute to make it more sheer. She should have been given another chance. 
  
I thought overall the designers did a good job this week given the time constraint. I was sad to see Da’Young go, but she made the best decision for her health. 
 

I don’t like Sergio’s personality, but he did produce a beautiful garment. I was surprised that Geoffrey wasn’t in the safe group and Brittany in one of the top looks.  

[CherryMalotte]

What a dumb ass decision.  It would have been better to tell her to get the hell out now rather than let her linger.

[hookedontv]

Victoria is the WORST! She’s like a kid that flips over the Monopoly board and walks away because she’s losing. 
 

And no way Victoria didn’t understand “sheer”. What a crock of Moldavian bullshit. Can’t believe she’s still in the competition. 

[njbchlover]

36 minutes ago, Archer27 said:

I love Geoffrey's, Devin's and Nancy's. Sergio's dress did not need the fringe.  

Me, too!  I didn't mind the fringe on the sleeves, but the bits of fringe in odd places on the skirt were just not good, imo.  Other than that, though I'm loathe to admit it, Sergio's dress was beautiful and very, very well executed, from fabric choice to finishing.  

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by njbchlover

[Jordan Baker]

OK, I've heard the expression "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph." And I've heard of the group Peter, Paul, and Mary. But I've never heard of, as Brittany said, "Jesus, Peter, Mary, and Joseph."

[CraftyHazel]

I’m telling y’all again...Victoria is this year’s Hester Sunshine.  The viewers don’t like her, but the judges find something so wonderful about her that it doesn’t matter what she sends down the  runway.  She will be in the finale, I’d bet on it.

[Ms.Lulu]

Does anyone else hate Brittany?  She is many of the things we complain about when we discuss Sergio.  She has an inflated ego, she is dismissive of others' talent, and she has the personality of a pancake.

I am ready for both Brittany and Victoria to clean up their work spaces and leave.

 

 

[jacksgirl]

Christian hated the fabric, but Nina and Elaine liked it. Crazy. Plus her look was not sheer. This was absolutely a producer-driven decision. 

[WatchrTina]

Ugh, what a terrible episode.  I hate the winner (he's so damn smug) and wasn't crazy about this design.  I think Victoria should have been eliminated.  But since she wasn't I hoped Christian would use his one "save" to rescue the designer who lost.  (Yeah her design was bad but not as bad as Victoria's and I like her and would like to see more from her.  Maybe Christian WILL save her but we won't find out about it until NEXT week.)

I'm also sorry about the designer we lost due to illness but the one who came back did well so I'm glad for him.  (Also his and the blonde's stunned reactions back stage to the announcement of the winner was the best moment of the show.)

 

[njbchlover]

4 minutes ago, CherryMalotte said:

What a dumb ass decision.  It would have been better to tell her to get the hell out now rather than let her linger.

They should have said "Well - you want to leave so badly, we won't stop you - your garment sucked, your attitude sucks and you've been eliminated."

Victoria didn't even seem happy, relieved or humbled by the fact that she was kept on, basically on a sympathy vote, and because she chose a yellow fabric that looked gorgeous (fabric, not design) on her model.

[Nidratime]

Since these tasks are so trying on the mind and body, why don't they have the contestants get a physical beforehand. It's clear Da’Young wasn't up to this from almost day one. She clearly isn't well and hasn't been for a while. Think of all the designers they must have turned down to include her?

 

[Archer27]

I loved when Victoria walked to the designers' lounge after she was saved, and none of the other designers congratulated her. 

[nb360]

8 minutes ago, PDXlulu said:

Does anyone else hate Brittany?  She is many of the things we complain about when we discuss Sergio.  She has an inflated ego, she is dismissive of others' talent, and she has the personality of a pancake.

Yes, she has been working my nerve for some time now. There was usually someone else who irritated me more so she's been flying under the radar, in some ways.

I wish she and Delvin did not say some of things they said while the top/low designers were on the runway.

[NYGirl]

10 minutes ago, jacksgirl said:

Christian hated the fabric, but Nina and Elaine liked it. Crazy. Plus her look was not sheer. This was absolutely a producer-driven decision. 

I thought this season was not going for the drama.  Boy was I wrong.  It makes me sad that they would keep her after that atrocity.  It was like they were looking for an excuse to keep her.   Really Nina?   The color is nice?
 

[NoThyme]

Last season I stopped watching about halfway through do to the overly obvious Hester love. I was really enjoying this season but it just turned a corner with the compliments and upbeat comments given to Victoria. No save for Chelsea. I'll give it one more week.....so producer driven. 

[Kdel1079]

I’m kind of tired of all the oohs and ahhs when Karlie appears on the runway. She’s a model, she looks good in everything, we get it! 🙄

[jaybird2]

2 minutes ago, Marmiarmo said:

I’m telling y’all again...Victoria is this year’s Hester Sunshine.  The viewers don’t like her, but the judges find something so wonderful about her that it doesn’t matter what she sends down the  runway.  She will be in the finale, I’d bet on it.

if she is eliminated before the final Christian will save her.  Actually, that's what I thought would happen tonight.  Ugh, can't stand the phony drama queen.  I would have sent her home regardless just because she threatened to quit

[pasdetrois]

So they rewarded the spoiled quitter and axed the one who listened to a critique and tried to revise her design. Allrighty then.

And then we are treated to Oprah-fied speeches from the judges.

The competition is wired. Victoria's dress was a travesty. Marquise's was clumsy.

All the designers know what's going on.

There was a weird whiff of attention-seeking from Dayoung. There's a story there. I really wanted to see her collection.

Delvin's and BBrittany's were my favorites.

 

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, Archer27 said:

I was shouting at my tv, "Let her leave!"

You and me both. If Victoria wants to go, let her go! She’s a pain in the ass!

17 minutes ago, nb360 said:

Yes, she has been working my nerve for some time now. There was usually someone else who irritated me more so she's been flying under the radar, in some ways.

I wish she and Delvin did not say some of things they said while the top/low designers were on the runway.

I’m with you re: Brittany. I am on the record as disliking her announcement that she was an attention hog as a child, and now I’m noticing a mean streak I don’t like.

I’m glad Marquise is back but I hate that Chelsea is gone. I especially hate that she went over Victoria.

As much as I dislike Sergio, and I do, I thought his gown was gorgeous.

[Ladyrain]

27 minutes ago, Angeleyes said:

I don’t like Sergio’s personality, but he did produce a beautiful garment. I was surprised that Geoffrey wasn’t in the safe group

I completely agree.   Sergio's smugness is maddening.   In his head, he's already won.   But his design was beautiful, and apparently extremely well-made.   So we're stuck with him.   And as much as he irritates me, I'm always anxious to see what he puts out on the runway.

I especially loved Christian this week.   He tried and tried with Victoria, but Special Snowflake was not having it.   Has she never received criticism in such a cutthroat biz??

[mightysparrow]

Chelsea showed more grace in losing than Victoria has shown in the whole fucking competition.

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, hookedontv said:

Victoria is the WORST! She’s like a kid that flips over the Monopoly board and walks away because she’s losing. 

Actually - adults do that too - I've witnessed it.  Also -- great analogy.

I like Marquise as a person but I thought his outfit was a disaster.  It was like a horrific version of Nancy's.

I like Geoffrey very much and I liked his outfit too.

I'm so sad Dayoung left.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[Callaphera]

It's clear I could never be a fashion person. I wasn't feel the nipple swag that Marquise put on the dress, I thought Nancy's dress looked like a prom disaster with a side of ho that was inspired by old Dynasty reruns, and I was not feeling the fringe at pube level from Sergio's dress. Yes, okay, "editorial" but nipple swag. I wouldn't even put a swag on the top of my curtain rod.

And since I'm going in on them, why does Stephanie (she of Marquise's nipple swag) always look like she's two seconds away from bursting into tears but darn it, she has a Brave Little Toaster smile to hide it. And why do they keep putting Thijin in a high neck because then she pushes it forward and makes her look weirdly turtle-ish.

It wasn't all bad: DD is everything for me and I enjoyed the Brittany and Delvin exasperated snark session on the couch. 

But seriously. Nipple. Swag. 

[nb360]

52 minutes ago, nb360 said:

I wish [Britanny] and Delvin did not say some of things they said while the top/low designers were on the runway.

Spoiler

https://www.bravotv.com/project-runway/season-18/episode-9/videos/nancy-volpe-beringer-overhears-the-other-designers

 

[Plums]

I'm just relieved I didn't cringe too much about Sergio this week. He was acting like an almost normally confident person for the majority of the time, which was a refreshing change of pace. It started to turn into awkward narcissism towards the end of the design day when he knew he nailed it, but for the most part, he was fine. And I did think his dress was beautiful, including the fringe. he's much easier to take when his overconfidence is somewhat justified. It just doesn't happen a lot. 

I didn't like Marquise's dress and was shocked that he was on the top along with Britney and Delvin. I don't think he deserved to be on the bottom, but I think I would have had him swap places with Delvin. 

I personally find Nancy tiresome, but I like her designs for the most part. It's interesting that she's apparently friendly with Sergio, which you'd never guess after watching the rest of the season. I think there's definitely some storyline and deceptive editing going on.  

Victoria is doing herself no favors by broadcasting to the entire fashion industry that she can't handle stress or criticism. She strikes me as the type of person who probably hasn't ever had to deal with constructive criticism, so it doesn't surprise me that she flew off the rails and didn't know what to do the second she was on the receiving end of it. 

[dbell1]

What does Victoria have on the judges? She does the bondage cutout too tight same design every week. And how many challenges in a row has she ignored the instructions? Ugh.

I liked Sergio’s design, but that pube fringe was wrong on all levels.

Guest judge was useless except when she called out the Moldova Mess. I’d auf anyone who said they spent 90 minutes sulking. 

[leocadia]

1 hour ago, jacksgirl said:

Christian hated the fabric, but Nina and Elaine liked it. Crazy

I took their comments on the fabric as trying to find something positive to say about the outfit even though it was a disaster.  They may have told her that she needed to suck it up, but it felt like they were still "coddling" her by praising the color and the way the garment showed off her model's body.   Her "poor me" tears had their intended effect.

I don't usually care for Elaine's contributions to the judging, but I loved that she told Geoffrey that he won her respect by standing by his garment.  I think it was less about him and more a lesson for Victoria to stop making excuses.

Still hate Sergio's overall entitlement attitude but I did like his dress.  Of course, if I'm being cynical, it looks similar to a lot of the looks in his "collection" so it was probably easier for him to execute.