Season 7 Discussion

[Token]

Well, I guess Kirstie Allie isn’t a paid shill for Jenny Craig or whatever nonsense she used to be on TV commercials for.

There’s something really missing in this show.  It went on for way too many seasons.  It’s just the same stuff over and over again.

[proserpina65]

The JTP was, as per usual, the highlight of the show.  They make even a somewhat dull retread episode like this better by their mere presence.

23 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

I love JTP so much, they can make an episode for me. "Yeah, bro, I'm pretty sure you might be a drug mule." "I think I am in real trouble!" 

The JTP needs its own show.

[Mabinogia]

On 10/10/2019 at 2:18 PM, tennisgurl said:

I love JTP so much, they can make an episode for me. "Yeah, bro, I'm pretty sure you might be a drug mule." "I think I am in real trouble!" 

At this point I'd rather watch a JTP spin off than this show any more. Adam is too old to be "cute", Erica has been circling the drain for a while now, they have no idea what to do with her, Beverly's smothering has been done to death. I still like the 80s nostalgia, because I was a pre-teen to teen in the 80s but the show has run out of ideas. 

[Token]

I never understood why they went with Lainey for the spinoff, a character I never cared for and whose show I watched a few times then stopped because it was so bad.

[Eataton]

9 hours ago, Token said:

I never understood why they went with Lainey for the spinoff, a character I never cared for and whose show I watched a few times then stopped because it was so bad.

I agree about Lainey but I'll still give Schooled another chance because I like some of the other characters. So far, the writing seems better than last year. Maybe they're still tweaking it. We'll see.

[Mabinogia]

24 minutes ago, Eataton said:

10 hours ago, Token said:

I never understood why they went with Lainey for the spinoff, a character I never cared for and whose show I watched a few times then stopped because it was so bad.

I agree about Lainey but I'll still give Schooled another chance because I like some of the other characters. So far, the writing seems better than last year. Maybe they're still tweaking it. We'll see.

I love Glascott and Mellor so Schooled works for me. I think they needed Lainey only in the sense they needed someone from the "teen in the 80s" generation to work into the "now it's the 90s" theme. The teachers it wouldn't make a difference, 80s/90s, Glascott and Mellor look and act exactly the same regardless of decade. I dont' love her or hate her, she's always just been kind of there for me, so I'm fine with her in Schooled and I'd be fine if she left. lol It's all about Mellor for me. I love that guy so much!

[readster]

On 10/10/2019 at 7:00 PM, Token said:

Well, I guess Kirstie Allie isn’t a paid shill for Jenny Craig or whatever nonsense she used to be on TV commercials for.

There’s something really missing in this show.  It went on for way too many seasons.  It’s just the same stuff over and over again.

The problem is, even when the supporting characters are calling out problems with the main characters isn't a good sign. I mean, Bev has really gone overboard now with Adam, not that she hasn't before, but this is getting pretty painful now. Same goes with Adam's principals, I get they want to highlight this teacher isn't like the rest of them. However, You would think by now they would be: "Seriously, just don't take this the wrong way, but if you do anything to think it WON'T bring in Beverly Goldberg, we are not renewing your contact next year!"

[Aryanna]

Have you guys noticed that ABC shows tend to fall into ruts rather quickly?

• Goldbergs - Bev smothers the kids, kids are rude to Bev, they both learn something by the end of the episode. Bev wants Murray to do something, Murray is apathetic, Murray learns by the end of the episode. Pretty much every episode for the last few years.
• Schooled - Coach is pushed to accept something new, coach resists and then sees the error of his ways but then takes it too far. Laney does something based off of a movie or TV show.
• Fresh Off the Boat - Jessica is hard nosed and unaccepting of something but learns something by the end of the episode.
• American Housewife - Katy gets mad at someone about something but then softens on the point by the end of the episode. This series isn't as bad about it as the other shows but is getting there.

So far Single Parents is the only ABC show I watch that hasn't fallen into this yet. But shows I watch on other networks, like Brooklyn Nine Nine don't seem to fall into this pattern.

[jmonique]

1 minute ago, Aryanna said:

So far Single Parents is the only ABC show I watch that hasn't fallen into this yet. But shows I watch on other networks, like Brooklyn Nine Nine don't seem to fall into this pattern.

One of the Single Parents showrunners is married to Mike Schur, one of the Brooklyn Nine Nine co-creators. I'm assuming like may attract like in that instance.
Adam F. Goldberg really does seem to be on auto-pilot: Movie knockoff + someone takes someone for granted --> Someone learns a lesson. "The thing about..."

[bad things are bad]

4 hours ago, Aryanna said:

Have you guys noticed that ABC shows tend to fall into ruts rather quickly?

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So they killed the excellent Kids are Alright, because it wasn't predictable enough, I guess

[tennisgurl]

As always, the JTP is the freaking best. "This isnt a real dred, its a clip on I found and you dont wanna know where!" The JTP could have its own spin-off and I would watch the absolute crap out of it. JTP!

So instead of a "Beverly is a smothering mom" plot, we get a "Murray needs to learn to get off of the chair and love his family" plot. So next week, it`ll be time for Beverley the smother to return, rinse and repeat. And what was all that stuff about Murray being so excited for his kids to leave come about? We literally just did a whole episode where he sabotaged Barry and Erica's attempts at living on campus because he would miss them so much! Do the writers have the memory span of a goldfish!?!

I did like the cameo from the Animal House guys, and the ending with the futures of the various characters. "Died in a speedboat accident." "Is a Supreme Court Justice." "Really did become a doctor. Really."

[One4Sorrow2TooBad]

JTP!  Poor ol' Matt Bradley always gets slammed,lol.  I hear what you're saying about the writing,but I still enjoy every episode, especially about the real people being written about.

[rmontro]

12 hours ago, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

JTP!  Poor ol' Matt Bradley always gets slammed,lol.

Makes me wonder if the real Matt Bradley had to put up with that.

[proserpina65]

23 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

As always, the JTP is the freaking best. "This isnt a real dred, its a clip on I found and you dont wanna know where!" The JTP could have its own spin-off and I would watch the absolute crap out of it. JTP!

So instead of a "Beverly is a smothering mom" plot, we get a "Murray needs to learn to get off of the chair and love his family" plot. So next week, it`ll be time for Beverley the smother to return, rinse and repeat. And what was all that stuff about Murray being so excited for his kids to leave come about? We literally just did a whole episode where he sabotaged Barry and Erica's attempts at living on campus because he would miss them so much! Do the writers have the memory span of a goldfish!?!

I did like the cameo from the Animal House guys, and the ending with the futures of the various characters. "Died in a speedboat accident." "Is a Supreme Court Justice." "Really did become a doctor. Really."

I actually enjoyed Beverly's time with Murray's friends, though.

I also loved the ending, but I believe it was "killed by a speedboat in his own driveway".

As always, the JTP made the episode, and I always appreciate an appearance by Dave Kim.  Except more Dave Kim means more Adam, so . . .

[One4Sorrow2TooBad]

And more Carla, the girlfriend who reminds all of us, of someone we knew in high school,lol.

[Jediknight]

9 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I actually enjoyed Beverly's time with Murray's friends, though.

Yeah, that was funny.  You knew it was coming, but it didn't make it any less funny that Murray's friends actually got into what they were doing with Bev.  And the Ghost reference.

JTP was great.  Poor Naked Rob, everybody gets naked, so it's not special anymore.

[msrachelj]

On 9/25/2019 at 10:37 PM, MrsEVH said:

Was that Christie Brinkley or a look a like?

After all the plastic surgery she is a look-a-like of herself!

On 9/26/2019 at 9:50 AM, Robert Lynch said:

I did not recognize Christie at all.

Plastic surgery.

[Keywestclubkid]

wait are they rewriting Erika at college?? she just said this new blonde chick is her first collage friend..umm what about her drummer roommate last year?

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

wait are they rewriting Erika at college?? she just said this new blonde chick is her first collage friend..umm what about her drummer roommate last year?

I would be so happy if they forgot she ever existed! 

[biakbiak]

Didn’t Erika learn the lesson of valuing her mother because a close friend didn’t have that several seasons ago because of Lainey and her mom never being there for her?

[Robert Lynch]

8 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

wait are they rewriting Erika at college?? she just said this new blonde chick is her first collage friend..umm what about her drummer roommate last year?

I guessed they read the social media complaint and decided to dump the character entirely.

The whole Adam subplot play was ridiculous.

[alexa]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Didn’t Erika learn the lesson of valuing her mother because a close friend didn’t have that several seasons ago because of Lainey and her mom never being there for her?

She has learned it 500 times because apparently that storyline must repeat itself.  Ugh.  Another Beverly being devalued episode?  Just what we need.  I wanted this show to remain on the air, but now I don't if we have to do that every single week.  There are so many other things they can do.... but I guess they are out of ideas.

[rmontro]

4 hours ago, Robert Lynch said:

The whole Adam subplot play was ridiculous.

So was the parent's weekend plot.  Beverly buying Barry a refrigerator, a pinball machine, a snowmobile, plus all the other stuff?  That is insane.  Plus the whole "I hate mom smothering me, but I'll learn to appreciate her in the last five minutes" thing - again.

Didn't Dana just put Adam in the friendzone a week or two ago?  Now she's jealous of him?  Oh well, high school, I guess. 

Thought there were some funny lines in the play subplot (which escape me now, since I've slept since then).  But also very ridiculous, as you say - turning Romeo and Juliet into a platonic office drama?  An interracial kiss in the '80s was far from groundbreaking, but still a little spicy for the times.

[Aryanna]

I noticed Melissa Joan Hart directed this episode. How cool.

So last week Dana just needed Adam to be a friend. This week she seems to want to be more than friends. Adam has the chance to get exactly what he wants with her but instead chooses to pursue someone he's never shown an interest in before because of stage chemistry. Stupid.

How many times have we had the kids don't appreciate Beverly and hurt her feelings only to realize their mistake and reconcile by the end of the episode? Seriously, how many times? I'd really like to know. 75? 100?

[proserpina65]

9 hours ago, Robert Lynch said:

I guessed they read the social media complaint and decided to dump the character entirely.

The whole Adam subplot play was ridiculous.

The play subplot was ridiculous, but there were some good Dave Kim lines, and I liked Murray's interaction with his friend, so it was okay.  This was a bit of a placeholder episode, but okay enough.

[blondiec0332]

2 hours ago, Aryanna said:

How many times have we had the kids don't appreciate Beverly and hurt her feelings only to realize their mistake and reconcile by the end of the episode? Seriously, how many times? I'd really like to know. 75? 100?

There has been 146 episodes so I'm going to say 146 times.

[Jediknight]

8 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

The play subplot was ridiculous, but there were some good Dave Kim lines, and I liked Murray's interaction with his friend, so it was okay.  This was a bit of a placeholder episode, but okay enough.

The JTP and Murray's friends you can usually count on to deliver.  The constant recycled plots on the other hand.

[Robert Lynch]

That's why I liked The Wonder Years better. I know they had lessons and all, but they didn't hit you over the head with the same repeated pattern that plagues shows like what Fresh Off The Boat and The Goldbergs are doing. Overprotected moms with sons pushing in their later teens or early 20s is not a win win chicken dinner. That is just lazy writing. 

[Kiddvideo]

On 10/24/2019 at 9:50 AM, rmontro said:

Thought there were some funny lines in the play subplot (which escape me now, since I've slept since then).

Agreed, with the goodbye handshake the coup de grace!

Barry Bostwick is in next week’s Halloween episode. We’re doing the time warp, y’all!

Controversial opinion: I hated “Rocky Horror” and walked out of the movie. The soundtrack is fun, though.

[mojoween]

What was the complaint about Other Erica?  I thought she was funny at times.

This entire season is a retread.  It’s getting annoying.

[Guest]

So the college is just cool with Geoff living in Erica's dorm room and following her everywhere?

I'm pretty sure Erica's new best friend is that girl on Now Apocalypse (basically a long-form porno) who winds up selling bottles of her pee to dudes online. All I could think about during yet another preachy Bev subplot was how much weird sex stuff the actress does on the other show. Made for an interesting contrast, lol.

In the writers' defense, falling for a girl in a day because you have to stage kiss her and then assuming you no longer have feelings for the girl you liked three days ago because you felt nothing from your stage kiss is the most high school thing ever.

[paulvdb]

On 10/26/2019 at 5:17 AM, SnarkEnthusiast said:

I'm pretty sure Erica's new best friend is that girl on Now Apocalypse (basically a long-form porno) who winds up selling bottles of her pee to dudes online.

I am very bad with faces, but IMDB confirms that it was Kelli Berglund who I first saw on Lab Rats.

[xander874]

Have they even mentioned other Erica? Maybe just a throw away line about her moving to Paris or something. But, she was annoying, so I guess I technically don't care.

Agreed that the Bev is wronged plot is sooooo tired. Occasionally they have switched it around so a kid is wronged by Bev but it's definitely an 80/20 split. I wish they would go back to Bev and her gang making plans. I liked the cookbook thing or her going back to school. There are so many options, yet they keep pulling from the same well. 

I'm one of the few that doesn't hate Adam, so I didn't mind that plot - it was at least something different for this show and progressed his love life a bit. And I like Ms. Cinnamin. I wonder if we will ever see Asha again. I actually liked her and would rather see her than Carla ever again.

[Robert Lynch]

7 hours ago, xander874 said:

Have they even mentioned other Erica? Maybe just a throw away line about her moving to Paris or something. But, she was annoying, so I guess I technically don't care.

Agreed that the Bev is wronged plot is sooooo tired. Occasionally they have switched it around so a kid is wronged by Bev but it's definitely an 80/20 split. I wish they would go back to Bev and her gang making plans. I liked the cookbook thing or her going back to school. There are so many options, yet they keep pulling from the same well. 

I'm one of the few that doesn't hate Adam, so I didn't mind that plot - it was at least something different for this show and progressed his love life a bit. And I like Ms. Cinnamin. I wonder if we will ever see Asha again. I actually liked her and would rather see her than Carla ever again.

But I could tell the actor must be tired playing a dork that creators want him to remain 12 forever. It doesn't work that way and he is already in his late teens or early 20s. 

Edited October 28, 2019 by Robert Lynch

[Robert Lynch]

Erica did make an excellent Magenta!

[juliet73]

Halloween ep was lame, even as a true story.  The best part of the ep were Adam's Beetlejuice and Weird Al costumes! 

[MMLEsq]

9 hours ago, juliet73 said:

Halloween ep was lame, even as a true story.  The best part of the ep were Adam's Beetlejuice and Weird Al costumes! 

Every time Adam popped up as Weird Al I was surprised how old he looked.

[Robert Lynch]

45 minutes ago, MMLEsq said:

Every time Adam popped up as Weird Al I was surprised how old he looked.

It was the mustache. And he seemed to be bulk up all of a sudden and I could tell from the veins in his neck. 

Edited October 31, 2019 by Robert Lynch

[Madtown]

57 minutes ago, MMLEsq said:

Every time Adam popped up as Weird Al I was surprised how old he looked.

Well, Sean Giambrone is 20, so he should look old..lol

Being an 80's kids, we love this show and my husband and I are on are 5th go around on Hulu, watching from from the beginning. This season though has not been funny. I have barely laughed.

It's the same ole same ole. It feels like the actors are just phoning it in. I hope they don't plan to go until Adam graduates high school. They should've ended it last season with Barry and Erica going off to college. If you watch Schooled, you know how most of the characters turn out anyway.

The one thing that I miss on this show from watching the past seasons, are the gym scenes with Coach Mellor. He's in Schooled, so you know he came back from is wrestling gig, so he should be on the Goldberg's still as well. Most of those story lines were hilarious and I enjoy them in Schooled as well.

[Traveller519]

Cool that they got Barry Bostwick, I guess, but as the only one it kinda fell flat. I get this wouldn't move the needle for Susan Sarandon, but Tim Curry and Meatloaf didn't want to earn a paycheck for a half-day's worth of work.

I hate to say it, because the wobbly legs of comedy appear to have finally started to buckle, but I think we're into the home-stretch of content here. Last year's "100% true story" about the living room was a jolt of energy to the show, this year's felt like "Hey remember that time??? Ehhh??? Ehhhh???"

I can only imagine how tough of a project this will be for Adam F. Goldberg to warp up given how personal it is. The connection to his since passed father and grandfather alone, but I feel like it may be time.

[biakbiak]

33 minutes ago, Traveller519 said:

can only imagine how tough of a project this will be for Adam F. Goldberg to warp up given how personal it is.

He is no longer the showrunner or writing on the show so he probably won’t be doing much. 

[Robert Lynch]

1 hour ago, Traveller519 said:

Cool that they got Barry Bostwick, I guess, but as the only one it kinda fell flat. I get this wouldn't move the needle for Susan Sarandon, but Tim Curry and Meatloaf didn't want to earn a paycheck for a half-day's worth of work.

I hate to say it, because the wobbly legs of comedy appear to have finally started to buckle, but I think we're into the home-stretch of content here. Last year's "100% true story" about the living room was a jolt of energy to the show, this year's felt like "Hey remember that time??? Ehhh??? Ehhhh???"

I can only imagine how tough of a project this will be for Adam F. Goldberg to warp up given how personal it is. The connection to his since passed father and grandfather alone, but I feel like it may be time.

I think Tim Curry is wheelchaired bound due to his stroke at this point. There is no way he'll do it under that condition. Ever since 2016, he seems to be done with movies for good. 

Edited October 31, 2019 by Robert Lynch

[One4Sorrow2TooBad]

I really enjoyed this episode, nice homage to TRHPS , and to the costumes everyone had. I could relate to the generation who grew up with TRHPS experience. A lot of people truly embraced spending time going to the midnight  shows every weekend  for years, not sure when that fad ended? Always love the real interviews at the end.

[geauxaway]

My son and I lost it every time Adam or Murray said “the butts.”   I do like the 100% this really happened episodes.

[rmontro]

14 hours ago, Madtown said:

The one thing that I miss on this show from watching the past seasons, are the gym scenes with Coach Mellor. He's in Schooled, so you know he came back from is wrestling gig, so he should be on the Goldberg's still as well. Most of those story lines were hilarious and I enjoy them in Schooled as well.

Yeah, I had expected him to be playing more double duty, appearing on both shows more often.

[tennisgurl]

I do love the "100% true stories" of weird things that happened to the real Adam and his family, you know its a true story when it seems so wild that it has to be made up! This show is clearly starting to lose steam, but we usually do still get a few good jokes or lines. And Adams Beetlejuice costume looked awesome!

[rmontro]

2 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

I do love the "100% true stories" of weird things that happened to the real Adam and his family

Remember that time when the wind blew over the trash can, and Adam had to go out there and pick it back up?  

That's probably the plot for next week  🙂

Jeff Garlin interviews the real Beverly Goldberg at the end of the show:  "Yes, it was a real windy day, and several of our neighbors had their trash cans blown over also.  It was 100% true".

[mojoween]

The credits at the end of Schooled have the cast for both shows and it said Steve Guttenberg was a guest star and I had already deleted this show so I couldn’t go back and check.  Anyone know who he was?

[zoey1996]

Adam as Weird Al was a nice callback to when he & his mom (I think) went to see Weird Al at a concert.  If I’m remembering correctly. LOL!

[Angeltoes]

Steve Guttenberg was Adam's teacher with the glasses.  I can't get over how old he looked. 

Pictures from the episode:

http://www.ksitetv.com/the-goldbergs/tonight-on-the-goldbergs-a-100-true-ghost-story/198927/

Edited November 2, 2019 by Angeltoes