2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[SmpIsimon]

30 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I had a thought about Victoria.  Brennan was her boot buddy; is it possible Brennan was a good influence on her & helped her a tad with the immaturity issues? 

Possible, but it didn’t happen. 

[ByTor]

9 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Possible, but it didn’t happen. 

Well that's disappointing 😞 

[Sillisusu]

On 8/16/2019 at 4:19 PM, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Ooh Savannah might have to delete that like Bridget did. Lol

What did Bridget have to delete?

[LynneH]

I was surprised that Judy commented that Katy was not ready this year for the team.  She's everything I consider a "cheerleader" to be.  She can do the DCC moves & kicks, she has a happy smiling face, she seems to have fun, she has the hair that TPTB seem to love.  I mean sheesh, what more could you want, besides losing a few pounds?    Maddie, Bridget, and Katy have the perfect "cheerleader" performer personalities.  

Also, I'm a bit confused with Christina, I don't have anything against her, I'm just curious, as she didn't appear to do well in the solo nor the interview, so I don't understand why she is on the team.  During deliberations Kristi said she's great on the podcast.  Which is fine, but let's be real, the podcasts are completely run by the DCC and are basically scripted material: Here are the questions I'm going to ask....  If they keep someone like her on the team to just be used as an ambassador, why didn't KF bring her to those TV interviews instead of Maddie?  

Third question: How often are these cheerleaders even interviewed on the fly?  I mean sure fans are going to run up and gush over them but that's not being interviewed.  TV/newspaper interviews provide you with the topics they are going to bring up so you can prepare/provide the cheerleader with a script to follow.   

[KatieC]

1 hour ago, JessG29 said:

That is the freestyle part of auditions but we were reiterating that this clip wasn’t shown on tv. And I standby by that because I didn’t see ANY of this at all. And I remember watching it and thinking “I don’t remember it being that bad” because I seen that IG post before the show even started airing. I DON’T think it was great and the cane was a really bad decision. But I for sure don’t think it was terrible.  She stated that she was “open to being molded into whatever they want her to be” so she had a positive attitude about it. She didn’t cry or throw a tantrum when she forgot her piece. Which is why I don’t see why people are saying she’s over the top because she jokes a lot or is animated.  To some that could really be a breath of fresh air in such a stressful environment. She already impressed who she needed to impress because she’s on the team. So I’m guessing she made some tremendous improvement in TC.  Its always kinda been A thing  here in Charlotte that the honeybees had a habit of picking girls because of their looks. And it was like a joke that NFL girls actually had to work their butts off.  Because a lot of the honey bees would ace those auditions but fail miserably when trying to join the Carolina panthers. So it’s nice to watch an NBA dancer learn the difference.  But I do not disagree that she has a lot to learn. I just enjoy that she’s open to it.

We didn’t see that particular clip on the show and it probably was a bad edit as far as her solo goes. Still I stand by what I said—she did the exact same combo that was in that solo clip as she did during her freestyle dance. And I’m still not impressed. Hopefully she did improve during TC since she did make it. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by KatieC

[Reveala]

8 hours ago, Dal8las said:

I think this vid is relevant to this post, because it has 4 girls still on the squad...but this was my favorite group two seasons ago Jenna's Group 1 yas

Jenna - slaying and I think pushed these girls to dance hype. Even stiff Amy was kinda getting it.

This is where I saw Alexis and Lexie killing the dance...i dont know who Alexis leader was this last season, but she didn't seem to give as much as she did here.

Maddie was eating this choreo..see this is the stuff I can see why she on the squad. I am here for this.

Last, I was like damn Savannah was getting it back in the corner.....Its Kalyssa regardless of what she doing now..She had it! She is a star.

Kerya another wronged girl 

Maggie always the baddie and Steph was finally showcased. She came up big time this year. 

This is probably a video techical problem, but the music and dancing weren't in synch. The dancers were slightly off the beat. Jenna is the only one who caught my eye, and she seemed to hit the moves a nano second quicker than the others. 

[hathorlive]

7 hours ago, Leia1021 said:

Not trying to be insensitive or inflammatory, are white people not allowed to do hip-hop? Is it always considered cultural appropriation?

It's not about white people doing hip hop.  It's about white people doing hip hop badly and other white people acting like she's bringing the tablets down the mountain to share with the people.  It goes back to the "never finding diversity if you never look for it".  Except this year we had someone literally killing hip hop and Maddie being praised extensively for something that was performed at a lower level.  I'm sure that Charlotte has never seen real hip hop.  That would require her to go out some place different and look for something different.  And as we've established, the DCC does not do that. 

So no, white people can do hip hop.  Just not this white person.  BTW, I'm the whitest person in the world. I literally am so pale I scare small children when I don't wear self tanner.   But I live in a city with a great music scene.  And I've seen kids waiting for the bus dancing that slay.  The majority of dance circuit kids doing "hip hop" are being taught watered down routines that are more jazz than true street dancing.  They've created their own genre that bares no resemblance to the real thing.  And then look at the choreographers that SYTYCD and DCC bring in.  Nappy Tabs? They are emblematic of this problem. 

There's a great article called "Modern Blackface: The Cultural Appropriation Of Rap" that discusses this much better than I can.  

"Striking a balance between taking part of a culture that didn’t originate from your community and colonizing that culture can be a challenging endeavor. There is a very clear distinction between “paying homage” to something you admire and culturally appropriating it. The act of paying homage becomes cultural appropriation when a dominant culture attempts to take a subculture entirely for their own devices, leaving nothing for the subculture." 

Maddie is using hip hop as a costume, she puts on the finals outfit and adopts a persona that she only knows from the watered down appropriated studio dance style, then takes it off, having added nothing to the style or genre and making no attempt to understand the culture that created it. And then Charlotte and Kelli ohhhh and ahhh about how awesome it is, perpetuating the fakeness.  That is appropriation.

[Christineelgene]

16 hours ago, chabelisaywow said:

IMHO - they wanted to take the Louisiana Tiger Girl a few years ago but her look was very ... severe.  Kat is like that girl but a diet version of her (I want to say "lighter" but I don't mean skin tone wise).  Louisiana Tiger Girl was a really good dancer - but friends with Kersten?  I don't know if that didn't help her either.

Kat is annoying as F.

I know Kelli was a former DCC - but what dance background does she have? By the way she describes VK - it's like she frigging blind.

Kellie was a Modern Dance major at TCU.

[Jazzmom]

9 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Re-watching solos - Rachel W and Amber are so supportive for everyone.  Can't wait to see how they do this season.

Too bad they won't do a split screen of VK and Kelcey - both in red, both doing lyrical, one doing beautiful turns.

She was like a proud grandma pointing out Maddie to Charm who was like, uh huh yeah right girl!!

Yes, last year the opinions of K&J ( sorry, J was quiet) were all over the episodes telling anyone who would listen that VK is a great dancer & performer, big, bold, etc.  Examples speak louder than opinions, yet they showed us absolutely zero examples of this wow factor.  Their opinions certainly didn’t match the examples of the stickers given out to the TCC.  

It would be great to have side by side comparisons. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Jazzmom
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[Reveala]

7 hours ago, sATL said:

I need more details on her draft production job - doing what exactly? I'm still a little foggy on what she does professionally... the draft is only 3 days - and once it is over , its onto the next.

I do think the draft was a good production show/event, as I enjoyed it myself - kuddo to Nashville. I guess I thought the event was more of a ABC/NFL/ESPN based (who has their own experienced production staff) nature, each club only had a small part of it. The cowboys didn't pick until round 2. ( link ).

The NFL draft may last only 3 days but producing it takes far longer. It appears that ESPN & the NFL Network shared the production team (cameras, audio, etc), as they were basically showing the same shots. They brought their own team for the announcing crew. Producing such a show involves a lot of pre-planning, and because it happens only once a year, everyone needs to be reminded and updated on what to do.  Who are likely top picks? Where will we position him? Who is he seated with? What's his back story. When it's done well, we think everyone is winging it.  But truth is, live shows with high stakes can take weeks of planning before you artive on sight and extensively once they arrive with the sets and equipment.  I look forward to Shelly's take 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Reveala

[Reveala]

32 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

"Maddie is using hip hop as a costume, she puts on the finals outfit and adopts a persona that she only knows from the watered down appropriated studio dance style, then takes it off, having added nothing to the style or genre and making no attempt to understand the culture that created it. And then Charlotte and Kelli ohhhh and ahhh about how awesome it is, perpetuating the fakeness.  That is appropriation."

 Frankly, any DCC dancing like that is a pleasant surprise, and Maddie brings the funk. I say this as a Black woman who appreciates the effort and the positive impression she leaves. But I also know neither Charm, Nick or any similar choreographer would  likely hire her as a dancer. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Reveala

[sATL]

4 hours ago, Reveala said:

The NFL draft may last only 3 days but producing it tajes far longer. It appears that ESPN & the NFL Network shared the production team (cameras, audio, etc), as they were basically showing the same shots. They brought their own team for the announcing crew. Producing such a show involves a lot of pre-planning, and because it happens only once a year, everyone needs to be reminded and updated on what to do.  Who are likely top picks? Where will we position him? Who is he seated with? What's his back story. When it's done well, we think everyone is winging it.  But truth is, live shows with high stakes can take weeks of planning before you artive on sight and extensively once they arrive with the sets and equipment.  

Right. That's why I was thinking most, if not all, of the work was done by the producers  and all of their current staff at ABC/ESPN/ NFL  Networks. Then add in the mass of ex-NFL players and the big name college coaches /universities. Lastly- add in all of the residents of the Nashville ( country music capital/doing stage and shows since 192x)  ,the Titan officials and surrounding communities who helped with production, ever since it was announced they would be the host city. Sorry- still at a loss at to why/what Malena was sought after, who I guess was in Dallas most of the time, was asked to lend her experience to do.

If Malena managed to get a assignment/position with this group -wonderful. She does seem to have a nack or knows who to ask  , going from one high profile position to the next. She must have one hell of a resume.

Edited August 18, 2019 by sATL

[ElenaFR]

7 minutes ago, Reveala said:

 Frankly, any DCC dancing like that is a pleasant surprise, and Maddie brings the funk. I say this as a Black woman who appreciates the effort and the positive impression she leaves. But I also know neither Charm, Nick or any similar choreographer would  likely hire her as a dancer. 

All I can say, Charm did not look impressed watching her solo. 

[hathorlive]

3 minutes ago, Reveala said:

Appreciate your explanation, but it does that mean that white people doing hip hop badly is cultural appropriation, but if she nails it, it's not? Frankly, any DCC dancing like that is a pleasant surprise, and Maddie brings the funk. I say this as a Black woman who appreciates the effort and the positive impression she leaves. But I also know neither Charm, Nick or any similar choreographer would  likely hire her as a dancer. 

It's probably in the eye of the beholder, lol.  I think if there's an effort to be authentic, it's accepted better.  The sad fact that this passes as hip hop and we are "happy" to see someone not doing shirt clutching lyrical says it all.  But this goes back to the lack of diversity of the DCC.  And the really, the question I'm left with is what style does Maddie do?  I can't really remember anything outside of her last two solos.  Has she "made hip hop" her own because she sucks at lyrical floor wallowing compared to the other barbies?  Maybe she just can't hold her own at lyrical, so she took on hip hop to be different? 

[Mercurialsteph]

4 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

It's probably in the eye of the beholder, lol.  I think if there's an effort to be authentic, it's accepted better.  The sad fact that this passes as hip hop and we are "happy" to see someone not doing shirt clutching lyrical says it all.  But this goes back to the lack of diversity of the DCC.  And the really, the question I'm left with is what style does Maddie do?  I can't really remember anything outside of her last two solos.  Has she "made hip hop" her own because she sucks at lyrical floor wallowing compared to the other barbies?  Maybe she just can't hold her own at lyrical, so she took on hip hop to be different? 

She actually used to do lyrical/contemporary and does it well. She won barbies for that precious years and she was one of Travis Wall’s favorites in contemporary. I think she does it because she likes it and it does make her stand out next to the sexy jazz and lyrical girls? 

[dccfan321]

51 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

It's not about white people doing hip hop.  It's about white people doing hip hop badly and other white people acting like she's bringing the tablets down the mountain to share with the people.  It goes back to the "never finding diversity if you never look for it".  Except this year we had someone literally killing hip hop and Maddie being praised extensively for something that was performed at a lower level.  I'm sure that Charlotte has never seen real hip hop.  That would require her to go out some place different and look for something different.  And as we've established, the DCC does not do that. 

So no, white people can do hip hop.  Just not this white person.  BTW, I'm the whitest person in the world. I literally am so pale I scare small children when I don't wear self tanner.   But I live in a city with a great music scene.  And I've seen kids waiting for the bus dancing that slay.  The majority of dance circuit kids doing "hip hop" are being taught watered down routines that are more jazz than true street dancing.  They've created their own genre that bares no resemblance to the real thing.  And then look at the choreographers that SYTYCD and DCC bring in.  Nappy Tabs? They are emblematic of this problem. 

There's a great article called "Modern Blackface: The Cultural Appropriation Of Rap" that discusses this much better than I can.  

"Striking a balance between taking part of a culture that didn’t originate from your community and colonizing that culture can be a challenging endeavor. There is a very clear distinction between “paying homage” to something you admire and culturally appropriating it. The act of paying homage becomes cultural appropriation when a dominant culture attempts to take a subculture entirely for their own devices, leaving nothing for the subculture." 

Maddie is using hip hop as a costume, she puts on the finals outfit and adopts a persona that she only knows from the watered down appropriated studio dance style, then takes it off, having added nothing to the style or genre and making no attempt to understand the culture that created it. And then Charlotte and Kelli ohhhh and ahhh about how awesome it is, perpetuating the fakeness.  That is appropriation.

I mean, you just got my whole life together!! Yes times a million.

[M1977G]

37 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

There is a very clear distinction between “paying homage” to something you admire and culturally appropriating it. The act of paying homage becomes cultural appropriation when a dominant culture attempts to take a subculture entirely for their own devices, leaving nothing for the subculture." 

Maddie is using hip hop as a costume, she puts on the finals outfit and adopts a persona that she only knows from the watered down appropriated studio dance style, then takes it off, having added nothing to the style or genre and making no attempt to understand the culture that created it. And then Charlotte and Kelli ohhhh and ahhh about how awesome it is, perpetuating the fakeness.  That is appropriation.

This is what makes it cultural appropriation. Props and thanks to @hathorlive for this clear articulation and for bringing scholar Nicole Phillips to the table to offer insights into what is a complex matter and, as Phillips and others note, a fine line between homage and appropriation. I am sure that Maddie has no consciousness of what she's doing as being problematic, and I think part of the issue here--to leave the politics and long history of African American cultural appropriation aside--is that Maddie doesn't do it that well. She's good at her version of hip hop lite, but she's not great at it. And she definitely is one who does the same tricks year after year. I'd think that, after all this time, she'd be able to point her feet while doing so.

[parrotfeathers]

4 minutes ago, M1977G said:

Props and thanks to @hathorlive for this clear articulation

Yes, thank you very much.  I am so glad I now understand the "why" behind the subject in general.  And appreciate the person who said something about white girls and hip hop.  I was afraid to broach the subject.

[go4luca]

35 minutes ago, Mercurialsteph said:

She actually used to do lyrical/contemporary and does it well. She won barbies for that precious years and she was one of Travis Wall’s favorites in contemporary. I think she does it because she likes it and it does make her stand out next to the sexy jazz and lyrical girls? 

Just my two inconsequential cents...

Based on some who have been given Barbies over the years, they don't mean that much to me. 🙅‍♀️

As for Travis Wall, I take much of what is said on the show with a grain of salt. We all know some are asked to say things or are scripted by CMT.  Take Kitty for example, who is supposedly over being told by CMT what to say or what persona to put forth.

[PrincessLeia]

I’m wondering if Charlotte could be a reason Julia eventually gets cut. She wasn’t a fan of her look at finals. Grasping at straws here because Julia is the total package and I’m still not over her cut and no one seems to have any good information as to why she was cut. 

[go4luca]

1 hour ago, hathorlive said:

It's not about white people doing hip hop.  It's about white people doing hip hop badly and other white people acting like she's bringing the tablets down the mountain to share with the people.  It goes back to the "never finding diversity if you never look for it".  Except this year we had someone literally killing hip hop and Maddie being praised extensively for something that was performed at a lower level.  I'm sure that Charlotte has never seen real hip hop.  That would require her to go out some place different and look for something different.  And as we've established, the DCC does not do that. 

So no, white people can do hip hop.  Just not this white person.  BTW, I'm the whitest person in the world. I literally am so pale I scare small children when I don't wear self tanner.   But I live in a city with a great music scene.  And I've seen kids waiting for the bus dancing that slay.  The majority of dance circuit kids doing "hip hop" are being taught watered down routines that are more jazz than true street dancing.  They've created their own genre that bares no resemblance to the real thing.  And then look at the choreographers that SYTYCD and DCC bring in.  Nappy Tabs? They are emblematic of this problem. 

There's a great article called "Modern Blackface: The Cultural Appropriation Of Rap" that discusses this much better than I can.  

"Striking a balance between taking part of a culture that didn’t originate from your community and colonizing that culture can be a challenging endeavor. There is a very clear distinction between “paying homage” to something you admire and culturally appropriating it. The act of paying homage becomes cultural appropriation when a dominant culture attempts to take a subculture entirely for their own devices, leaving nothing for the subculture." 

Maddie is using hip hop as a costume, she puts on the finals outfit and adopts a persona that she only knows from the watered down appropriated studio dance style, then takes it off, having added nothing to the style or genre and making no attempt to understand the culture that created it. And then Charlotte and Kelli ohhhh and ahhh about how awesome it is, perpetuating the fakeness.  That is appropriation.

If there was a way to light this post up in marquee chaser lights, I would.

Thank you!

[Jennv]

7 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

No, Maddie just isn't particularly good at it. I think a lot of her accolades for hip-hop stem from the fact that she is a white girl from Utah and thus, isn't expected to be fluent in hip-hop. The fact that she does it, gets people's attention because it doesn't fit their expectation---but when you break it down, it's mediocre.

Maddie doing hip-hop is like Vikkie trying to do turns. Just because they can, doesn't mean they have the technique for it. 

Like the Beastie Boys as rappers

[Lexusprincess]

After watching the show Friday

Malena needs to move on.  This is not for her because she will never get the choreography, she will always struggle, and she does not have the fortitude to handle the pressure when she performs.  

Also one who needs to not try out again was Madi from the Alien Angels.  She will never have the right feet.  Her performance at semis was terrible.  She did not get the routine.  It's great to have a dream but one needs to know when it's truly one you can reach.  Would she look good in the uniform...absolutely.  Will she ever be a powerhouse dancer.  Nope.

Christina.  How this vet who is considered the weakest made it back I will never know.  She bombed the interview and her solo.  Hopefully Christina will move on next year.

Gabby-a pretty girl who added diversity to the team.  Sad but it's been said she spent a lot of the season on WW, then lost weight for the calendar shoot and then gained it back.  I believe when they have struggled most of their rookie season and still cannot come in at their best those get cut.  The other ones mentioned Meredith, Megan C, Ronnie had more years under their belts.  Meredith and Megan C were show group and amazing in the kick line and dancing.  Meredith was also well spoken.  Kashara at times looked soft and then would lose it.  She's curvier but looked great in the uniform.  I believe weight is one factor balanced against what else they bring.

Kat and Gina C how they made training camp is a mystery?  Kat makes the team.  Hopefully we see Kat doing better.  The girl is beautiful and at times looks good but her solo was a disaster along with the rest of her final audition.  Kitty would have got rid of the cane and told her she needed a different costume.

VK looked good.  Lily looks good.  Lily's faces when she is not performingI believe are from stress.  Good for Kristen.  I like this year's Meredith but please keep her from speaking or give her some speech class.

Compared to last years rock stars, this rookie class might not be as strong but I do not think they are terrible.

Maddie's solo may not be true hip hop but it was different from the rest and cute.  Let's be real.  Most of the vets do a similar routine each year.  Lacey got. a Barbie every year for pretty much the same old thing.  This is not a hip hop team.

I will truly miss Kashara and Lacey.  The triangle just won't be the same.  I wonder who they are going to use to be the spokesperson now.  I saw one interview with Maddie and she needs work.  I love Maddie and thought her comeback was amazing.  Public speaking is just not her wheelhouse.  The others Tasha and Kelli I liked but thought it was time for them to retire and move in with real life.    Khalyn is gorgeous but seemed to be injured a lot.  Jessika and Yuko it was time.  Lauren I am sad to see go but it's not fair to anyone for someone to come in injured.  Retiring is better than being cut.

Happy our girl Gina is back and poor thing she had to be a victim of such random gossip and hype.

[go4luca]

2 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

Maddie's solo may not be true hip hop but it was different from the rest and cute.  Let's be real.  Most of the vets do a similar routine each year.  

Maddie's solo this year looked way too much like last year's.  Including that bad side arial with bent legs into a deep plie in second.  Only difference, is this year's didn't have nearly the same impact and fell flat.  At least for me.  Apparently Charm too.

[hathorlive]

4 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

Maddie's solo may not be true hip hop but it was different from the rest and cute.  Let's be real.  Most of the vets do a similar routine each year.  Lacey got. a Barbie every year for pretty much the same old thing.  This is not a hip hop team.

I will truly miss Kashara and Lacey.  The triangle just won't be the same.  I wonder who they are going to use to be the spokesperson now.  I saw one interview with Maddie and she needs work.  I love Maddie and thought her comeback was amazing.  Public speaking is just not her wheelhouse.  The others Tasha and Kelli I liked but thought it was time for them to retire and move in with real life.    Khalyn is gorgeous but seemed to be injured a lot.  Jessika and Yuko it was time.  Lauren I am sad to see go but it's not fair to anyone for someone to come in injured.  Retiring is better than being cut.

Happy our girl Gina is back and poor thing she had to be a victim of such random gossip and hype.

It's also not a lyrical team, so should they not be judged on technique when they do these routines?  Maybe they need to say "bring a power pom solo" so we can see who has the actual technique needed on the field. Not arguing, just pointing out that a lot of the "technique" they love will never been seen "in boots" on the field doing their choreography.

Projection, power and punch.  Judge them on that and not double turns with bad technique that are spinning out of control, but "so emotional and powerful". 

Gina- I can't believe her solo was not shown. I guess it makes VK look bad when someone who can actual dance puts on a clinic for the rest of the ladies?

Kashara- perhaps the most real DCC ever. I feel like what you see is what you get with her.  Oil changing and all.  She does have the ability to gain weight that is noticeable, but still look good in the uniform.  She gains weight well, which is a skill I also don't have. 

On a side note, I was happy there was no focus on Brennan.  Usually they have one second year vet that the judges talk about.  Did she grow? Was she better this tryout? I expected there to be some conversation about her and was pleased that she wasn't much of a concern.  Did they show her in the solo round? I saw a girl in black but as has been stated before, some of the plastic surgery work has made some of the girls blend together.

[PrincessLeia]

18 minutes ago, RockYou said:

Julia was cut on how she came across on Media day. She is a reporter on a local station of some sort and a question was asked either from the rival station or about them.

She did not answer or handle the situation in the way they deemed best.

Maybe she was set up for this, or maybe not. She may have just answered confidently and it came across wrong. They don’t like confidence if they think it can be arrogant.

Im positive whatever was said was easy to edit in a horrible way too . This MTT show is grossly over edited. 

But they seem to love arrogance if the candidates are a little funny or less intelligent , is just my opinion.

Sounds like we may never know exactly how it went down due to editing. Would love to know exactly what the question was and exactly what she answered. 

[cgloss]

Could someone remind me who earned Barbies this year? Thank you!

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, cgloss said:

Could someone remind me who earned Barbies this year? Thank you!

[Opine]

15 hours ago, GeorgiaPeach11 said:

My theory as to why they cut Julia is that Charlotte expressed her dislike during finals so she probably didn't have a chance. I couldn't make out exactly what she said about Juilia but it was negative. Did anyone else hear what she said during deliberations?

Her makeup is too harsh said the lady with the thick black eyeliner and way too short skirts.

14 hours ago, RockYou said:

I will would bet my life they told VK ahead of time the question on cutting one of the three. 

Her pause was well calculated and the answer just golden. 

Maddie wearing that same  hip hop costume , again? Ummmm how lame.

Hannahs solo was literally one contortion trick after another. Not dance. Reminds me of little gymnast girls dancing in living room making up routines at a slumber party. 

Abso-frickin-lutely

[Opine]

12 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

There’s always one Charlotte has to be completely bitchy about for no reason. And every year I roll my eyes and think “Charlotte, could I dislike you any more???” Ugh 

Lawd, yes!  How long did it take her to perfect that snotty ass eye roll?  I've said it before, and I will say it again.  Woman needs GRACE.....she has none!!

[Opine]

5 hours ago, ByTor said:

I had a thought about Victoria.  Brennan was her boot buddy; is it possible Brennan was a good influence on her & helped her a tad with the immaturity issues? 

Yeah, probably.  I mean VK was so good at taking diet direction from Jinelle.  She wins the eager to learn award!!!!

[MTTFan]

14 minutes ago, Opine said:

There’s always one Charlotte has to be completely bitchy about for no reason. And every year I roll my eyes and think “Charlotte, could I dislike you any more???”

_______________

Ugh Lawd, yes!  How long did it take her to perfect that snotty ass eye roll?  I've said it before, and I will say it again.  Woman needs GRACE.....she has none!!

I always thought Charlotte was one of the reasons Ann Lux never came back after her second season.

If I had seen the same head shake Charlotte gave Kelli during Ann's second season tryouts , I wouldn't have come back.

Edited August 18, 2019 by MTTFan

[ByTor]

Wait a second...Hannah got a Barbie for that "solo" and Briana did not get one for hers??? #anotherDCCrobbed

[DAthene]

On 8/16/2019 at 7:34 PM, Bellisima08 said:

CMT producer: Ok gals, if you want to get camera coverage you've got to play along with the edict from TPTB. Now smile at Victoria & high five with her!"

All I thought in this segment was bless her heart.  She thinks this is what will make her a good teammate.  

[jlc]

33 minutes ago, Opine said:

Her makeup is too harsh said the lady with the thick black eyeliner and way too short skirts.

Abso-frickin-lutely

Yes, abso-frickin-lutely!  As soon as I heard her answer I thought she was given the question in advance. 

[UT2004gal]

Looking at that picture of the ladies who received Barbies....it’s noticeable that the only first and second group leaders that received one are Gina and Maddie. I question why Maddie got one because her solo was a rip off of her solo last year and not nearly as good. In my opinion, the leaders this year just aren’t that great. Alexis and Miranda aren’t even on show group and won’t be in the front during TS. It’s going to make for a long and boring season. Hopefully most of these girls will retire and make way for those powerhouse second year vets. And whyyyy is Gina not point, or even the triangle?!?! What a blatant screw up Kelli! 

[jlc]

24 minutes ago, Opine said:

Lawd, yes!  How long did it take her to perfect that snotty ass eye roll?  I've said it before, and I will say it again.  Woman needs GRACE.....she has none!!

Well, you know what they say....money can't  buy class!

[dreamcatcher]

34 minutes ago, jlc said:

Yes, abso-frickin-lutely!  As soon as I heard her answer I thought she was given the question in advance. 

I promised myself I wouldn’t comment on VK anymore, but jesus christ. We know they’re only asked 2 questions and all VK got was a question on social media which they wouldn’t have known to ask her about had she not confided into auntie Kelli. True hard hitting question would be even a simple what would you say to the people claiming you’re only here because of your mom, not tell us about how hard is to get negative dms which we assume you get because of reasons. And what was that crap about who would you cut? That was completely random and she would have to be a complete moron to not find an answer on that. Other girls have gotten actually tricky questions or were more or less attacked and yet we should praise VK for saying miss charlotte i haven’t seen you dance. And let’s not forget she’s been around these women all her life. Any other candidate getting that question would be scared to death of offending miss Charlotte (which ain’t that hard to do apparently).The bar is set too low this year for VK.

And on a positive note, Ashlee was great! I can see improvement and I hope she sticks around. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by dreamcatcher

[Dal8las]

39 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Wait a second...Hannah got a Barbie for that "solo" and Briana did not get one for hers??? #anotherDCCrobbed

Im with you! 

[Dal8las]

35 minutes ago, UT2004gal said:

Looking at that picture of the ladies who received Barbies....it’s noticeable that the only first and second group leaders that received one are Gina and Maddie. I question why Maddie got one because her solo was a rip off of her solo last year and not nearly as good. In my opinion, the leaders this year just aren’t that great. Alexis and Miranda aren’t even on show group and won’t be in the front during TS. It’s going to make for a long and boring season. Hopefully most of these girls will retire and make way for those powerhouse second year vets. And whyyyy is Gina not point, or even the triangle?!?! What a blatant screw up Kelli! 

A lot of the girls that would have been good GL were either overlooked, cut, quit or left the squad too early IMO. Maggie, Mandy, Cersten, Robin, Tara, Rachel Alexander, Lauren, Kalyssa, Khalyn, Megan C, Holly, Milan.......

Lexie is the only GL/2nd L I am here for she is such a good dancer love her.

[blairwaldorf]

Was Gabby the only veteran cut this year? 

[KatieC]

2 minutes ago, blairwaldorf said:

Was Gabby the only veteran cut this year? 

Yes

[DanceCoach16]

2 hours ago, go4luca said:

Maddie's solo this year looked way too much like last year's.  Including that bad side arial with bent legs into a deep plie in second.  Only difference, is this year's didn't have nearly the same impact and fell flat.  At least for me.  Apparently Charm too.

It’s not a side aerial, it’s called Side Sumi, it’s a hip hop trick. 

[go4luca]

11 minutes ago, DanceCoach16 said:

It’s not a side aerial, it’s called Side Sumi, it’s a hip hop trick. 

Thanks for the clarification.  At least you knew what I was speaking about.  Although I studied dance for over 25 years, hip hop wasn't avail in the form it is today.

Regardless, I still don't enjoy Maddie's style of hip hop.

Edited August 18, 2019 by go4luca

[Ninamags]

7 hours ago, Jennv said:

Like the Beastie Boys as rappers

Eh, I happen to  like the Beastie Boys. 

They have a few Grammys as well. Can’t get more industry or fan validation than that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Edited August 18, 2019 by Ninamags
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[CrazyMoon]

On 8/17/2019 at 11:26 AM, UnicornKicksBack said:

gabby got cut for attitude/snark with weight as the excuse. The end.

Citation on the 'attitude/snark' please...The out of shape was painfully obvious.

[Jazzmom]

1 hour ago, MTTFan said:

I always thought Charlotte was one of the reasons Ann Lux never came back after her second season.

If I had seen the same head shake Charlotte gave Kelli during Ann's second season tryouts , I wouldn't have come back.

Well, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen this scene and I always thought it was the edit.  It seemed to me that Kelli was talking smack about something or someone, and was continuing this behavior.  At this point Charlotte was telling Kelli..no...stop.  🤷‍♀️

[Jennv]

14 minutes ago, Ninamags said:

Eh, I happening to like the Beastie Boys. 

They have a few Grammys as well. Can’t get more industry or fan validation than that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

That’s the point, it’s popular because it’s a novelty act. If they were three black guys everyone would say they suck

[Jennv]

21 minutes ago, Jazzmom said:

Well, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen this scene and I always thought it was the edit.  It seemed to me that Kelli was talking smack about something or someone, and was continuing this behavior.  At this point Charlotte was telling Kelli..no...stop.  🤷‍♀️

Iirc Charlotte didn’t like Jenna the first year she tried out and she and Kelli disagreed about it

Edited August 18, 2019 by Jennv

[hathorlive]

1 hour ago, DanceCoach16 said:

It’s not a side aerial, it’s called Side Sumi, it’s a hip hop trick. 

Actually, the side somi a gymnastic floor/beam element that's been around for 40 years, give or take.  And regardless of who does it, it's always ugly as hell.  But it's a D element, so there you go.

Edited August 18, 2019 by hathorlive