S09.E12: The Ultimate Ultimatum

[Stats Queen]

49 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

What the hell is Dorit wearing?

A question her neighbor must ask daily.

[Chit Chat]

5 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Kyle is unbelievably needy in ALL her relationships.

I've never heard of "attachment parenting," but it's obvious that she's the one in need of attachment to other people.  Serving the child breakfast in bed?  Seriously?  In my house it was get your ass down here to the table and eat your breakfast!  Just kidding, but I never served my kid breakfast in bed.  He was perfectly capable of getting ready for school and eating what I fixed, and without me dressing him too!  Ridiculous. 

I laughed when Erika said that at least Rinna admits her mistakes.  It's because she makes so damn many of them that she's in constant apology mode!  Shut your damn mouth, Rinna, and you wouldn't have to apologize so much. 

[Beachdreamer]

I don't like the Kemsleys much, but I actually have a sneaky feeling PK understands that all this began with an error on their part as far as the dog, and that his wife is going too far with it all.  It's nothing he has said outright, but just a feeling I have.

I think there is some desperation there that may have money and power undertones over losing this friendship, but I also think he gets that all of this is really stupid and overblown, and that the first one to step wrong here was Dorit/PK.

[nexxie]

1 minute ago, Stats Queen said:

A question her neighbor must ask daily.

[njbchlover]

46 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I don't believe in blind loyalty. If my friend swore on her children's life, I would believe her though, and I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who sold a story about me either.

What I do wonder about Lisa, is why she said she didn't properly read the article or contact Dorit.  

That's true, but there was already the hurt involved with the real situation of Lucy and the shelter, and all the drama that ensued with that at Camille's birthday party, so Lisa may have been still hurting from that.

On the flip side, if Dorit was such a "great friend" of Lisa's, and she had these suspicions about her "great friend", why didn't Dorit call Lisa to discuss her doubts and feelings, instead of first running her mouth off to all of the other women?  

If I have an issue of trust with a friend, I discuss it with her first and foremost.  Then, from that conversation, I go with my gut.

Edited May 1, 2019 by njbchlover

[Mr. Miner]

I really enjoyed the scene when the two wankers told the other two wankers they weren’t going to be friends anymore. 😊

[Lady of nod]

56 minutes ago, endure said:

Woe Kyle sure is a know it all, she seems to think her word is the final yet she's talking a lot of BS just to be heard.

Yes. Kyle is really feeling herself since she's helped to alienate LVP from the pack. I can see her rubbing her hands together as she plots to become the new queen bee. 

And wtf is she now the official narrator of this show? Seems like she had a TH every five minutes. I don't need you to splain things to me Lucy

Edited May 1, 2019 by Lady of nod

[Kiki777]

I too think this is it for Dorit.  I don't see any other way for this show to continue - this storyline has been beaten to death and will continue to be for as long as she stays.

[njbchlover]

14 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Dear Kyle, it’s too much! 

(And trimming your man’s nails is WAY too much!)

I was grossed out by that scene with Kyle and Mauricio - I mean, Mauricio is a really good looking guy, but he's got some gnarly looking toenails!  Get yourself to a podiatrist or a good manicurist, man!!!  

[Callaphera]

Aside from an appearance from my favourite accessory this season - Zesty Cheese Dorito's CHA and NEL earrings - and Denise being a functional alcoholic on camera - she always seems hosed during any on-camera dinner or gathering - this one was actually pretty dull.

Was I supposed to care about Kyle bed-sharing with a 10 year old? I mean, one of her daughters thinks flushing the toilet is cleaning it. I'm not expecting much from this family and that's pretty much what they deliver: not much. 

[tranquilidade]

And why did he need his toenails trimmed for the photo? Oh I know, just another way to prove she is indispensable.

Edited May 1, 2019 by tranquilidade

[RealHousewife]

I know Kyle may seem too much, but when many women in her position would have nannies, and there are so many "regular" parents who don't care what their kids eat, make them be little adults as soon as possible, want them out at 18, or raise kids who end up in all kinds of trouble, I can't personally knock her parenting style. All her kids seem to be doing well, and that is saying something since they are Hollywood kids. They could have ended up like their cousins or the Kardashians, but her girls have had no scandals and go to school. I love how close her family is, and if I were to pick a RH mommy, I'd pick Kyle. 

[wheresmypizza]

The hot minute they cut to the Indian party at SUR was the most entertaining thing of the night.

LVP needs to be off this show. She doesn't need it. The show, however, needs her. Kyle isn't interesting without her. Dorit and PK are irrelevant without her. If LVP doesn't return, her absence is all they'll have to talk about. Snooze. That's all they have to talk about now.

[AttackTurtle]

I’m Team LVP always and she does a much better job putting into context in her talking heads than in person.  I would not understand staying friends with someone who outright thinks I’m a liar and refuses to even consider anything different.  Why would anyone be in that friendship?

And sorry Kyle, but you’re comments that PK is only willing to believe LVP must be due to some hidden dark embarrassing secrets says a lot more about Kyle than PK or Lisa.  What a bitch.  

And honestly, Lisa wasn’t exactly shedding tears over Dorit it PK.

I love LVP, but I would ditch the show and let them turn on each other.  Kyle does not have the smarts or charm to be Queen B on her own and Teddi may just be the one other chick that is more dumb than Kyle.  

Edited May 1, 2019 by AttackTurtle

[Reality police]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

I know Kyle may seem too much, but when many women in her position would have nannies, and there are so many "regular" parents who don't care what their kids eat, make them be little adults as soon as possible, want them out at 18, or raise kids who end up in all kinds of trouble, I can't personally knock her parenting style. All her kids seem to be doing well, and that is saying something since they are Hollywood kids. They could have ended up like their cousins or the Kardashians, but her girls have had no scandals and go to school. I love how close her family is, and if I were to pick a RH mommy, I'd pick Kyle. 

I have always thought that Kyle is a great mom. This season I have some issues with that. She does need to teach them some independence or they will have some rough awakenings in the future. All children need some responsibilities to mature. 

[Kiki777]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

I know Kyle may seem too much, but when many women in her position would have nannies, and there are so many "regular" parents who don't care what their kids eat, make them be little adults as soon as possible, want them out at 18, or raise kids who end up in all kinds of trouble, I can't personally knock her parenting style. All her kids seem to be doing well, and that is saying something since they are Hollywood kids. They could have ended up like their cousins or the Kardashians, but her girls have had no scandals and go to school. I love how close her family is, and if I were to pick a RH mommy, I'd pick Kyle. 

Hey now, Kim K is studying to be a lawyer ;-)

i do agree that it's nice to see her cook for them - that breakfast looked so nice - but the bed sharing? Eek.  

Damn I'm gonna make egg-in-the-hole tomorrow.

[howiveaddict]

1 hour ago, JD5166 said:

Is Teddy able to put her arms down? I am going to call her t-rex from now on. Kyle walk like a freakin duck. 

I bet Erica strips down all of her glam to “camp”. (Not) 

Teddy's man hands are bigger than t rex hands, though.

1 hour ago, TexasGal said:

Dorit and PK are meeting LVP and Ken for lunch at Pump but Pump isn’t open for lunch?  I mean...ok, one more shot of your restaurant I guess LVP.

They had to go somewhere since Lisa's kitchen is being remodeled.  Plus a closed restaurant would be easier to film in.

55 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I do like how bored Erika looks over the whole conversation.

I feel your pain Erika, I feel your pain....

Probably because she isn't the center of attention.

[njbchlover]

7 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I know Kyle may seem too much, but when many women in her position would have nannies, and there are so many "regular" parents who don't care what their kids eat, make them be little adults as soon as possible, want them out at 18, or raise kids who end up in all kinds of trouble, I can't personally knock her parenting style. All her kids seem to be doing well, and that is saying something since they are Hollywood kids. They could have ended up like their cousins or the Kardashians, but her girls have had no scandals and go to school. I love how close her family is, and if I were to pick a RH mommy, I'd pick Kyle. 

That is a very good point.  She does seem to have raised the older girls well, and they are all thriving.  I think, though, she may be holding on a little too tight and going a bit overboard with Portia, as Portia is her "baby" and Kyle's way of holding on to motherhood.

I just wish that maybe Kyle wasn't so over-the-top with taking care of her kids.  But, Kyle is kind of over the top about everything, so it's no big surprise.

Edited May 1, 2019 by njbchlover

[TenaciousWarrior]

Ken and LisaV sound like members of the mafia laying out their “rules” for resuming the friendship. “Either say you believe us, or no friendship! Those are the terms! Nothing else will do!” I was glad Dorit stood her ground. I, too, believe it was someone from Lisa’s camp or Lisa herself who leaked it to RadarOnline. LisaV and Ken want obedience, not friendship.

Edited May 1, 2019 by TenaciousWarrior

[tranquilidade]

I’m trying to make happy memories!     .......bossing everyone around and faking a smile after violently cutting toenails of said husband.  She thinks life is the tv show.

[dbell1]

Well, that was disturbing. I saw Mauricio's toenails, Dorit dressed like a discount hooker, Kyle putting socks on a functioning 10 year old, and Rinna's thousand year old exercise video. I'm going to need to start drinking if I want to continue to watch.

Still team LVP here. And happy we finally saw Kyle's dogs. 

Edited May 2, 2019 by dbell1
Because hookers are different than hooked?

[princelina]

40 minutes ago, endure said:

I wonder if Lisa and Ken are just done with this bunch and really don't care anymore....I get that, I feel the same way!

Who would know because that's how LVP has always presented herself.  I don't like the ganging up on anyone, but as I've said before - I think she brought it on herself with the way she has treated the others over the years.  In addition to being unable to apologize for everything, she also acts all blasé about any conflict with anyone - "Whatever, I don't even care anyway."  Like tonight when she and Kenny decided they were no longer friends with the other two wankers, she was immediately, "The thing about it is, I don't even care."  Since no one on this show is really friends, and different people fight each season, the rest of them at least pretend they give a shit that they are "fighting" with a "friend", but LVP boasts about not giving a care.  Which may make her the queen bee or whatever, but also explains why no one else really likes her.

13 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I've never heard of "attachment parenting,"

I've only heard of it with regard to letting your kids sleep in your bed until they are way too old.  Odd to have her referenced in the same thread twice, but see:  Mayim Bialik 😄 

[tranquilidade]

The sleeping didn’t bother me as much as the carrying and dressing and what appeared to be utter helplessness. That can’t build self esteem and security.

Edited May 1, 2019 by tranquilidade

[PhilMarlowe2]

Maybe I am jaded, but I don't think swearing on your kids' life necessarily means all that much. Just last week, Ramona swore on Avery's life and the editors promptly cut to reveal that she was, in fact, lying.

[njbchlover]

53 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

Camille is loathsome but her read of nobody knowing PK and Dorit in regards to their friendship with LVP until two years ago had me cackling. As long as Camille points her venom at targets I don't like, I don't mind her.

I loved that!!!  I also loved Kyle agreeing with Camille, and Dorit getting all bug-eyed defensive again!!  One of these days, Dorit's going to pop her eyes so much they are going to fall out!  

[Callaphera]

35 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

I think Dorit is headed for splitsville on a fast train

I need to see that divorce settlement. Does Dorit get the CHA earring and PK get the NEL earring?

[breezy424]

Bambi with the tennis ball shot!  The rest of Kyle's dogs!  Romeo escaping!  Best part of the episode.

Yeah, as TenaciousWarrior stated, it did sound like Mafia laying out their 'rules'.  

Why didn't LVP reach out to Dorit before she gave the interview?  Why didn't LVP reach out to Dorit and say the Radar On Line story wasn't true and she was going to refute it???

At least we only had to endure Sessa for a few seconds.  That party didn't get much airtime.  Must have been pretty boring, just like LVP's birthday party.  Of course with the exception of Denise having to wait for LVP to show up.

Kyle is a helicopter mom.  However, those kids are turning out pretty well.  I don't get the breakfast thing or nail clipping thing but I do get shoving the socks and shoes on so your kid can eat something thing.

Yikes.  Camille.....

LVP and Kenny pick countertop and they talk about ROL gate.  Giggy 2.0 pees.  Yawn.

[njbchlover]

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I need to see that divorce settlement. Does Dorit get the CHA earring and PK get the NEL earring?

I don't think either get any of the earrings - they are probably on loan from somewhere, or else they are "Faux-nel"....  😉

[BloggerAloud]

22 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

And why did he need his toenails trimmed for the photo? Oh I know, just another way to prove she is indispensable.

Wasn't the point of that whole stupid toenails thing was the audio to be implying they were having some sort of sexual relation and the gag being she was clipping his toes? A stupid, sitcom-y device.

[Callaphera]

7 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I don't think either get any of the earrings - they are probably on loan from somewhere, or else they are "Faux-nel"....  😉

Hmm. FAUX and NEL would leave Dorit lopsided and she'd have her head tilted at a hilarious angle any time she wore them. I very much want her to wear some FAUX and NEL earrings now. 

ETA: I believe that Dorit's head is filled with nothing but air, therefore she has to keep things balanced with the earrings, otherwise she'll get a wicked crick in her neck attempting to do it on her own. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Callaphera

[princelina]

7 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

Wasn't the point of that whole stupid toenails thing was the audio to be implying they were having some sort of sexual relation and the gag being she was clipping his toes? A stupid, sitcom-y device.

Same as LVP sexy-talking the dog last week!

[missyb]

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/episode-12/videos/this-is-why-dorit-kemsley-still

I agree with Lisa, in her portion of this clip, 100%.

If Dorit really wanted to move forward with the relationship, she was told how. You either believe me, or you don't. You dont, so no relationship. But I did nothing wrong ! I still love you. And I think, when Lisa said "I love you too" she thought DOrit would pick up on the fact that she was lying, as Dorit always knew she was. It was irony. 

I once had  a friend , who I adored, but she was a pathologically liar. I had to make a decision that I either ended the relationship, or I went forward with caution, knowing her proclivity for lying. I never called her a liar,I just went forward.

Dorit says Lisa is lying, Lisa says she isn't. Dorit does not want the friendship.If she truly did  she would apologize and more forward more cautiously.

Life is compromises.

I am also amused that Dorit thinks she is so important that Lisa needs to sell a story concerning Dorit Who Kemsley.

[Bronzedog]

What if Portia never wants to sleep in her own bed?  I mean sooner or later Kyle is not going to be able to carry her around, but, how long does the sleeping together, sock dressing go on?

On another note, if I was one of those workers with Lisa and Ken, I wouldn't have appreciated the dog peeing on something I was going to have to pick up later.

[goofygirl]

Dorito's fatal mistake is her refusal to ADMIT SHE THREW AWAY A DOG! PK is just trying to support his wifey but come on, admit your mistake and then go on. Jeebus, these people are just too nutso.

I had a relative whose oldest kid slept in the bed with the parents for  life! OK, the kid didn't live that long but they weren't aware of what was coming when they started the whole "family bed" idea.  Something they do in Scandinavian countries?  I don't know; just always thought how sad it was that the kid could never go to slumber parties or even have a friend spend the night.  

I think Kyle has really shit the bed again.  Dang! She's gonna be the next one to shill for Depends!

Edited May 1, 2019 by goofygirl
As usual, typing!

[missyb]

More details about lucy lucy apple juicy:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/episode-12/videos/dorit-kemsley-reveals-a-surprising

Not sure where to put it !

[JAYJAY1979]

Kyle is exhausting and a professional victim.  I'm wondering if she's over correcting with her kids because of her less stellar childhood.

How dorit is skating by when she started the whole thing fascinates me.

Why is teddi there?

Denise is so sweet and naive..the shine of being a 1st year housewife.

Erika adds nothing but her talking heads are good.

I loved Merge back in the day...

[njbchlover]

I really think that the crux of all of the problems this season is that all of these women, including LVP, are all sooo caught up in their own self-righteousness and selfish need to be correct that they cannot see past that and into another person's viewpoint.

They all are so into proving to each other that they were the one who was "right" that they cannot get out of their own way to realize all of this is so petty.  

And, in their self-righteousness, they have all forgotten (except maybe LVP) this all started because ONE horrible person did ONE horrible thing and turned it all around and away from herself.

And, because of this, we, the viewers, are experiencing a horrible and uncomfortable season of what is usually an entertaining show.

[charming]

These women look like idiots. The look of utter panic over PK possibly trying to mend his friendship with Ken & Lisa is a sight to see. I think PK handled it the only way you logically can if you want to try to repair the relationship and rebuild trust. Last week I posted what do these women want her to do to "prove" her innocence- take a lie detector test and I lol'd when she said that.

Dorit is adamant that she. did. nothing. wrong. and is the true victim in this scenario. Why doesn't anyone demand Dorit admit what she did by dumping the dog at the shelter? For all of her smack talk about LVP never admitting any faults she's much worse.  She couldn't even admit to being an hour late to a lunch she planned. She's the ultimate phony and deflector.  The irony is, none of these other women like her but they made a pact to try to take LVP down and it's too late to back out now.

[Fl Mom]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Sorry, both Lisa and Ken are full of shit. They want blind loyalty at all costs.

Not necessarily.  If someone thought I'd swear on my kids lives that I hadn't done something, I'd expect my real friends to believe me.

[breezy424]

16 minutes ago, missyb said:

More details about lucy lucy apple juicy:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/episode-12/videos/dorit-kemsley-reveals-a-surprising

Not sure where to put it !

Thanks for posting the link.  This makes the water even murkier.  I don't like Dorit or PK.  However, it seems like Dorit had been talking to Erika while this all was going on.  And it sounds that Sessa is just as much a famewhore as I've always thought.

[babykin]

2 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

More details about lucy lucy apple juicy:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/episode-12/videos/dorit-kemsley-reveals-a-surprising

Not sure where to put it !

So much bullshit from Dorit it's painful.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

😂

I'm curious about the history of PK's friendship with Lisa and Ken.

I know there are friends I have where there have been gaps in the friendship at times, but technically we do go back many years. My guess is that's the situation with PK and Lisa and Ken. I bet for years Kyle was a much closer friend, but that PK may have been buddies with Lisa and Ken many years ago in London. 

Kyle had a valid point though.

LVP and Ken have been on this show for 10 years? Not once have we seen a shot of Dorit & PK in the background of any of these parties they've been together since 2009 or earlier. Or even just PK if according to Dorit , PK's friendship goes back 30 years.

[Giselle]

[walnutqueen]

25 minutes ago, missyb said:

More details about lucy lucy apple juicy:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/episode-12/videos/dorit-kemsley-reveals-a-surprising

Not sure where to put it !

3 minutes ago, babykin said:

So much bullshit from Dorit it's painful.

THE LIES!  THE LIES!  THE LIES!

How many versions of the story can Dorito tell without including the fact that she dumped the dog (either at a shelter or to a virtual stranger)?

[charming]

7 minutes ago, babykin said:

So much bullshit from Dorit it's painful.

Now she's basically saying she never wanted either of the dogs but was pressured into getting them and were lied to about the dogs behavior? 

Just can't take responsibility for a damn thing. 

[Fl Mom]

Detest LR.  Can't even look at her without cringing.  Calling people who don't like you fat women with lots of cats is offensive.  She is just a foul-mouthed thug as far as I can see.  She harrassed Star Jones so much that Jones had to get lawyers involved.  Not that I like Ms. Jones but, really?? Over losing at Celebrity Apprentice?  She sent threatening texts to Kim Richards which shows me how low Kyle can go. Stopped watching mid-season when Rinna and the other soap opera one came on.

[rustyspigot]

10 minutes ago, Fl Mom said:

Not necessarily.  If someone thought I'd swear on my kids lives that I hadn't done something, I'd expect my real friends to believe me.

Well, Ramona on NY swore on her daughter's life about which table she was at at an event and was lying. This is Housewives, afterall. 

It was rather odd that Ken and LVP both did their "I'm leaving!" routine at their own restaurant.

[Fl Mom]

4 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

THE LIES!  THE LIES!  THE LIES!

How many versions of the story can Dorito tell without including the fact that she dumped the dog (either at a shelter or to a virtual stranger)?

Putting aside everything else, the entire debacle was Dorit's fault.

Just now, rustyspigot said:

Well, Ramona on NY swore on her daughter's life about which table she was at at an event and was lying. This is Housewives, afterall. 

It was rather odd that Ken and LVP both did their "I'm leaving!" routine at their own restaurant.

Ramona's nuts 🙂

[RealHousewife]

11 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Kyle had a valid point though.

LVP and Ken have been on this show for 10 years? Not once have we seen a shot of Dorit & PK in the background of any of these parties they've been together since 2009 or earlier. Or even just PK if according to Dorit , PK's friendship goes back 30 years.

I do think Kyle had a valid point. Just trying to figure out their friendship history. :)

[izabella]

1 hour ago, tranquilidade said:

The sleeping didn’t bother me as much as the carrying and dressing and what appeared to be utter helplessness. That can’t build self esteem and security.

I rarely comments on kids, but I was definitely asking myself wtf was wrong with her.  And Kyle.

I was already skipping past the photo shoot and accidentally stopped on Mauricio's gross toenails and wondered wtf was wrong with Kyle for thinking anyone wanted to see that and for doing it.  Ugh. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by izabella