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S09.E05: The Proof Hurts


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1 minute ago, SheTalksShit said:

Does anyone else recall when Erika went crazy on Eileen because Eileen said, offhandedly, “It’s not like she killed your child!” 

Then she turned it into, “Well, my son is a police officer, he really could get killed!” Umm ya everybody’s child could get killed, not just your son. That irritated me. And it was obvious that’s not really what she was upset about, what she was really upset about was that Eileen was no longer taking her side. 

Wasn't that the first time we saw Erika's weird, unwarranted rage? Maybe not completely unwarranted, given what was happening at that time, but extremely disproportionate.

She never did really apologize for it, either.

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3 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Big sis Kathy is 10 years older than Kyle. Two of Kathy's four kids have attended college; only one graduated. Though 3 of Kathy's four kids have had serious substance abuse issues. When Kyle is at her most obnoxious, I still kind of like her because she and Mo have raised some decent, if slightly spoiled, kids. The Hadidn'ts are insufferable. Someone did a good job with Erika's son Tommy, but it sure as shit wasn't her. Anyway given the current celebrity college scandal, remember Alexia started at University of Arizona, but transferred to a college in Boston. This is what happens with normal kids. This is where Kyle is her most down to earth.

In the real world, one would fire John Blizzard for what he admitted to doing and not have that weird stilted conversation. He still works for VanderPups.

Yes, and Mauricio has a lot to do with it. That man stays hungry and good for him!

Kathy and Kim married into wealthy dynasties.   On Paris show, Kathy was really down to earth and cool like Kyle.

Kyle married for love and middle class. Mauricio is a hustler and finally came into his bit of paradise.  The Umanskys are finally enjoying their rewards from patience, love and never giving up. Lots of networking for those house listings! 

Their daughters have grown up around tremendous wealth with their cousins and Farrah is BFF with Dorothy Wang. 

It is nice to see the Umansky girls  get theirs, too.....and, making  a college degree top priority. 

I don’t have  a problem with Kyle.  I like her for the show. Kyle & LVP make the show feel genuine.

I am even kinda looking forward to watching Kim come around!

so, ready for less Rinna and Dorit.

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11 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Big sis Kathy is 10 years older than Kyle. Two of Kathy's four kids have attended college; only one graduated. Though 3 of Kathy's four kids have had serious substance abuse issues. When Kyle is at her most obnoxious, I still kind of like her because she and Mo have raised some decent, if slightly spoiled, kids. The Hadidn'ts are insufferable. Someone did a good job with Erika's son Tommy, but it sure as shit wasn't her. Anyway given the current celebrity college scandal, remember Alexia started at University of Arizona, but transferred to a college in Boston. This is what happens with normal kids. This is where Kyle is her most down to earth.

In the real world, one would fire John Blizzard for what he admitted to doing and not have that weird stilted conversation. He still works for VanderPups.

I'm going to sound like an apologist for LVP, but she does seem to have a soft spot for young guys who like to gossip (look at all the chucklefucks on Vanderpump Rules - they've all been given chance after chance after chance - even though they're not that young anymore, they all still gossip like the old neighborhood ladies across the backyard fence).  

I'm completely agreeing with you, and if I were LVP, he would have been fired.  

I think that LVP had an inkling of what was going on, but she is still trying to protect her reputation, as well as the reputation of Vanderpump Dogs, or whatever it's called.

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The scenes in the dorm at Georgetown. I guess Georgetown really wanted the publicity. Interesting that there was not one other person in the dorm that we saw. Was it really move in weekend or was the whole trip staged for Bravo filming? I hope Sophia got admitted there through her own hard work. 

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28 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Big sis Kathy is 10 years older than Kyle. Two of Kathy's four kids have attended college; only one graduated. Though 3 of Kathy's four kids have had serious substance abuse issues. When Kyle is at her most obnoxious, I still kind of like her because she and Mo have raised some decent, if slightly spoiled, kids. The Hadidn'ts are insufferable. Someone did a good job with Erika's son Tommy, but it sure as shit wasn't her. Anyway given the current celebrity college scandal, remember Alexia started at University of Arizona, but transferred to a college in Boston. This is what happens with normal kids. This is where Kyle is her most down to earth.

In the real world, one would fire John Blizzard for what he admitted to doing and not have that weird stilted conversation. He still works for VanderPups.

With all that has gone down, it would be a very bad move, strategically, to fire John Blizzard. Even tho I don’t believe LVP was the main one behind all this, JB could easily turn on her if fired for this and LVP knows it. It’s a much better strategy to simply get JB to appear on camera and back up her side of things...and LVP is nothing if not strategic. 

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It is like watching two different shows. 

One the pre-show for Vanderpump Dogs and the other regular RHBH.

The thing is ...... NOBODY invited Rinna to read a part for VPD.  

She is the one that auditioned on her own BIG TIME in the Bahamas.

Got the other ladies involved, too.

Now, Rinna is on the social media crying she is going to sue if she is being used to spin-off....VPD.

hahahahahhaha!  Rinna loses again!

Rinna is the one that removed the pin on the VPD grenade. 

LVP just wanted to expose the Puppy Dumpers and give ‘em  hell.

If I remember correctly, when NY found out Bethenny was getting a spin off it was Jill who went to the other girls and told them not to talk about it on HWs or go on her show.  Jill was trying to kill B’s show.

Well, we all know what happened!

LVP might become Bethenny’ish....but, Rinna will always be The Jill!

The Jill...is still the lowest of the lowest. 

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24 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

Oh LVP is so much more clever and smooth than Bethenny. Much calmer, much less high strung, much cooler, much more strategic, much less impulsive, much more mentally stable. 

The 2 don’t even compare, IMO. 

I cant stand Bethenny. LVP, despite her flaws, is someone I respect and enjoy watching. Bethenny, ugh, no. 

Hahahahah!  I agree.  Nothing alike. 

Didnt mean the person.....the situation. 

That people and Bravo will always side with LVP and not Rinna.

Even if LVP loses a few fans.....it doesn’t mean Rinna is going to gain them.

LVP has all the HWs fans and all the young kids watch her VPR shows.

She is solid.

Rinna is the Jill! Don’t go against the Queen!

This reunion is gonna be lit!

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5 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

Oooh LVP fucked up. 

She knows exactly who Faith is, how can she not? I’m wondering why she’d say that, surely she knows fans remember Faith from last season of Vanderpump Rules. 

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Probably sarcasm.

 Wasn’t Faith a friend of her son? Isn’t this how she got on the show.  (If it is the same girl I am thinking about)

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2 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Probably sarcasm.

 Wasn’t Faith friends with her son? Isn’t this how she got in the show.  (If it is the same girl I am thinking about)

No, this is definitely not sarcasm lol. Look at what she’s responding to. I wonder why LVP would even respond to that, it gives it a platform. 

You are obviously a big LVP fan, I get it. I like her. But she fucked up here. 

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Oh now she remembers. She didn’t recognize the name? She must not have bc had she known, she had to know fans would know who Faith is. 

I think LVP is feeling very defensive right now and not thinking before she responds. 

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6 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Probably sarcasm.

 Wasn’t Faith a friend of her son? Isn’t this how she got on the show.  (If it is the same girl I am thinking about)

Faith worked at SUR during season 4, Max was fucking Faith during season 4, Faith was the recipient of Sandoval's old couch (the Kristen/Jax hookup one), and Faith was who Jax slept with when he cheated on Brittany.

LVP was probably being sarcastic and shady, but a simple "Who?" or "I don't know her" would have sufficed.

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49 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Faith worked at SUR during season 4, Max was fucking Faith during season 4, Faith was the recipient of Sandoval's old couch (the Kristen/Jax hookup one), and Faith was who Jax slept with when he cheated on Brittany.

LVP was probably being sarcastic and shady, but a simple "Who?" or "I don't know her" would have sufficed.

I think Faith was on The Challenge.  MTV.

I think she slept with people on there, too. Lol

Maybe Faith was talking about the cheating Jax-Brit storyline.

Faith  could have slept with Jax for real......but, on the show it sounded scripted to me........to make it TV worthy.

Maybe LVP tried to manipulate the timeline for the shows sakes. Faith didn’t like it because it made her look bad.

You know because Brit has to win! They had that spin off and a wedding is happening soon.

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I saw Kyle was n WWHL and I think she has completely misread the situation. She thinks this will all blow over and she will be best buddies with Lisa again after the reunion. 

This one feels different. Lisa’s tone and her statements are too forthright and clear. She is done with Kyle. So for her to so vigorously defend Teddi is a big mistake.

Kyle should know that rats are supposed to run off a sinking ship 🚢 

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1 hour ago, SheTalksShit said:

No, this is definitely not sarcasm lol. Look at what she’s responding to. I wonder why LVP would even respond to that, it gives it a platform. 

You are obviously a big LVP fan, I get it. I like her. But she fucked up here. 

I am a LVP fan, yes.

But, these people are on a reality show. They are not shooting scenes. So, the show is how it turns out on the final edit.  True or  not true.

 Don’t like it....do not sign the contract.

I think Faith was on The Challenge.  If it is the same girl (I am not going to bother with google) she looked bad on there, too.

When they look bad the first thing they do is blame others.

Blame a bad edit. Blame a set up.  Blame favoritism.

They will even blame their own parents!

We saw Brandi do this, btw.  When she called her dad a naked pot smoking hippie on the show.....for her fucked up ways.........he stopped talking to her. 

I even think Brandi called her dad a drug dealer..???

(tell me if I am wrong.  Going by memory and not fact checking these twats!)

Faith is also on Ex on the Beach airing now.  

Looks like she has done VERY well for herself swimming naked in LVPs pool!

Jus’ Sayin’! 😘🏊🏼‍♀️💔

A little heartbreaker that one, I tell yah! 

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5 hours ago, snarts said:

 The episode needed more Camille.

It really did. I feel like I say that most weeks though. More cowbell and more Camille. But I do sometimes think she’s so great because we see so little of her. That’s really the key to liking any housewife: limited exposure. 

I loved Sophia saying goodbye to River. It reminded me of saying goodbye to my childhood dog when I left for GW. It actually made me a little emotional to watch. Saying goodbye to my old dog was much harder than saying goodbye to my parents.

I also had to laugh when Kyle talked to Sophia about cleaning toilets. When I started at GW, we actually had maids that came once a week and cleaned our personal bathrooms and floors, replaced the toilet paper, etc. Then they got rid of it and everyone was really pissed. We were absolutely totally spoiled brats, but I did love my time there and am grateful for the education and the experiences the school (and the location) provided.

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Because Sophia is not Alexia. I know the names of Kyle’s dogs better than those of her daughters
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5 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Dorit's dress at Lisa's house was cute. Lisa V could have at least had someone slice her an apple or something. 

No, no, no! That’s a trap! Lucy Lucy Apple Juice. Can you imagine if she did serve her an apple? That would be so passive aggressive! And another set up! To be safe, LVP should never mention fruit again.

3 hours ago, Pickles said:

The scenes in the dorm at Georgetown. I guess Georgetown really wanted the publicity. Interesting that there was not one other person in the dorm that we saw. Was it really move in weekend or was the whole trip staged for Bravo filming? I hope Sophia got admitted there through her own hard work. 

*GWU, not Georgetown. And I say this with tremendous love for my alma mater, but I believe they would absolutely be happy to help coordinate a shoot for Sophia’s move in and love the publicity. 

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I like Denise’s personality, but her fiancé is a bit too much. I was rolling my eyes when he was going on about infinity and the number 8. Also, He’s a guy who looks hot from far away but close up he’s too over plucked, and veneered to be considered handsome. He’s looks like those airbrushed pretty boys that grace the cover of romance novels. 

Rinna looks like a toothpick with hair. Sorry to skinny shame, but she looks ridiculous with the bolt-ons. Thank god we did not get a view of her snatch. It would be like looking at “sleeve of wizard.” 😂

Dorito, and PK: see also, the family grifters. PK looks like a lumpy poorly dressed former B-movie villain that didn’t quite make the cut because of sheer laziness. The man literally sits on his arse all day with a glass of wine, probably viewing porn, but complains he’s  so tired from “working.”  Dorit is his wide-eyed malfunctioning fem-bot who instead of shooting bullets from her bolt-ones bastardize’s the English language so badly that people walk away with fewer brain cells, and damaged ear drums. 

Ericka’s “like a prayer” confessional was a disappointment. I was waiting for Mikey to gleefully jump out and yell, “Pat The Puss!”

Teddi: Yawn...Next.

Kyle. No shade. They seem like a tight knit family However, Sophia seemed kinda vapid with a bit of a snotty attitude. Kyle needs to take her to a roadside truck stop and enter the bathroom to see how pristine an uncleaned toilet looks like. 

LVP: I love her home. I want to visit the ponies, look at pink roses, and sip wine in the garden. 

I’m not mentioning the text or Puppygate, because to quote Detox from RPDR: “I HAD IT, officially!”

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3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I'm going to sound like an apologist for LVP, but she does seem to have a soft spot for young guys who like to gossip (look at all the chucklefucks on Vanderpump Rules - they've all been given chance after chance after chance - even though they're not that young anymore, they all still gossip like the old neighborhood ladies across the backyard fence).  

LVP doesn't give a fancy flipping fuck about the chucklefucks on Vanderpump Rules. LVP gives them endless chances because her restaurants aren't really restaurants; they are tourist attractions and the chucklefucks are the attractions. In last night's episode, Jax actually refused to make a customer a mojito because he didn't wanna. A customer in a normal restaurant would be livid and would complain to management. Here it's part of the experience; Jax is a shitty bartender--always has been, always will be. And that woman still paid $15 for a crappily made cosmo; a mojito is $13.

However, VanderPups doesn't really work like that. They have to be professional in ways that the restaurants never have to. Vanderpump Rules was built on the complete lack of professionalism.

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Faith was on Ex on the Beach and the Challenge.

Faith could be talking about LVP manipulating the Jax cheating storyline, but LVP wasn't really involved. Furthermore, the cast has revealed that the calculated issue with that was actually a beef between James and Lala about who was going to out the cheating. Faith was on season 4, but LVP's shenanigans with the sex tape were very sketchy. But in all likelihood, Faith is referring to LVP's TomTom mess--refusing to cash the Toms' checks, refusing to give them a term sheet for 18 months, never giving them a partnership contract, and exaggerating about the Toms failing to provide her with a cocktail list for weeks and weeks (i.e. during the month that they postponed production so LVP could mourn). 

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8 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

did you text Dorit Teddi knows? 

Yes

how did you know that Teddi knew?

I didn't know at the time.....

What the what? Then how did you know to and why did you text her Teddi knows? If NO ONE told you that Teddi knew? So Lisa pulled a thats so raven and magically knew that Teddi knew without her telling anyone to tell Teddi or being told that Teddi knew? lol Lisa just admit you knew and MOVE THE FUCK ON ....Let this die its now becoming super annoying 

This.

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This is, hands down, the most infuriating franchise on Bravo.  It's bad enough when the cameras don't catch (or so we're led to believe) important exchanges, but now they're just flat-out ignoring salient details.  Teddi's brother--the one who works at TomTom--is dating Hannah, the trainer at VPD.  I'm not saying that Hannah & Hud filled Teddi in on the whole Lucy situation, but I'm saying it is plausible that she heard something from them prior to either one of the Johns or LVP.  I have no clue, but for the entire cast to act like these people & connections don't exist is maddening.  (For that matter, we should have seen Dorit be accosted by that woman at the resort as well.)

I am certainly no Bethenny fan, but I so, so wish that LVP had handled this dumbass dog story like B handled Sonja's Tipsy Girl cheater brand: LVP should have sat Dorit & PK down in one of her swanky establishments, calmly and methodically laid out how dumping a VPD rescue dog was in violation of their contract and stood as a black mark against her rescue charity's reputation, made them cry for being so stupidly selfish, then banished them and stopped them from filming on trips, relegating Dorit to evergreen scenes of vag rejuv.  Alas, that was not to be.

And, as a side note, I listen to Ben & Ronny too much because when I saw that stuffed buffalo head on the wall of the restaurant where The Wigs Three had lunch, I instinctively said "Puppy!" in MKE's voice. Lol.

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7 hours ago, Pickles said:

The scenes in the dorm at Georgetown. I guess Georgetown really wanted the publicity. Interesting that there was not one other person in the dorm that we saw. Was it really move in weekend or was the whole trip staged for Bravo filming? I hope Sophia got admitted there through her own hard work. 

Not Georgetown U, It was George Washington U.

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3 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

LVP: I love her home. I want to visit the ponies, look at pink roses, and sip wine in the garden. 

She has a fabulous place.  I liked the scene where LVP and Denise were getting massages and LVP told Denise that she should bring her youngest daughter over to see the ponies.  Honestly, I'd much rather hear a genuine conversation about Denise's adopted daughter and how she's helping her.  Didn't she say that there's a chromosome abnormality and the young girl doesn't speak?  I would bet that Denise secretly thinks this whole issue of puppygate is insane compared to the daily issues she faces.  

3 hours ago, MrsWitter said:

Did anyone else notice Erika commenting on her broken doorbell to Teddi? And she said something about everything in the house falling apart.

I noticed that too.  I also wondered how her and Tom's relationship is doing since she mentioned that he likes someone slow and sweet (and I don't remember the other thing she said,) but that she's no longer those things.  They never seem to be together.  Oh well, that's great if it works for them!

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10 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I’m on Kyle’s side: ‘let’s move forward from this’. But they won’t, it’ll be Lucygate all season long, and I’m so confused about this whole storyline. All I understand is that Dorito should have just given the dog back to LVP in the first place. The rest is boring as hell. 

If it weren't for Kyle conveniently making the "Is Dorit allergic to dogs" joke in front of Rinna, they'd have moved on long ago.

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My parents were not holding my hand at college like that.  First, I knew how to clean!  And, cook! And, do all my own errands. This is call life. 

I wanted those mushy moments, too. My parents bought me my dream car and then used it against me.

They used to tell me.  We got you that car so you can start doing those things yourself.  We do not have to go with you anymore.

Oh, I can relate! My parents had pretty much no idea where I was even living for the majority of my college career, even when it was out of state! 

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I would seriously watch Mauricio curling Kyle's hair a million times over hearing anything else about Lucygate ever again!  He was too cute!  

I laughed when she was expecting he'd do it wrong and then was like, "Hmm, not bad at all!" My dream is get my BF professional-level blowout lessons for those times I want straight hair (it's so tedious to do it myself and it still doesn't come out the way it does when someone else does it--you need more than two hands, man!).

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Not if you have cats.

And I speak from personal experience.

My one cat doesn't give a shit what way you put it, just that it's there at all. In fact, he attacks it when it's still in the package. Paper towels too.

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4 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

I’m not mentioning the text or Puppygate, because to quote Detox from RPDR: “I HAD IT, officially!”

Same. I refuse to discuss it any more. It's run its course. 

4 hours ago, MrsWitter said:

Did anyone else notice Erika commenting on her broken doorbell to Teddi? And she said something about everything in the house falling apart. Then there was that stilted conversation with Tom earlier in the season about tiles broken around the pool. I fear once Mr. Girardi passes (or leaves her or declares bankruptcy), Erika will be living in that house all Sonja Morgan/Grey Gardens style. Except she will definitely not be as funny or joyful about it all as Lady Morgan. I would die to see Erika duct taping some “pat the puss” shirts up as window coverings.

Her house is just so unappealing, to me. I realize I don't have similar to taste to most of these people. But damn; the Girardi house just seems so stuffy and dated to me. I start to get depressed every time they show it. 

42 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

If it weren't for Kyle conveniently making the "Is Dorit allergic to dogs" joke in front of Rinna, they'd have moved on long ago.

I seriously don't think that was intentional, though. Kyle is often really ditzy and doesn't think before she speaks. LVP was sharing a room with Dorit and joked about bringing a cat in there because of allergies and Kyle just blurted that out about the dog. I have a horrible sense of humor and have been known to say similar things in an awkward situation. 

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9 hours ago, njbchlover said:

If John Sessa (or Blizzard - I'm too confused at this point to remember or care!) is to be believed, he said that he received a call (or text) from the shelter and the shelter said that a reality celebrity dropped the dog off.  So, it could possibly have been Dorit, herself.

CC keeps saying his name is John Cesar.. Do they have it wrong?

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2 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

That's a scary thought, considering this one thinks toilets are self-cleaning. There's going to be nothing left for Portia.

You know, why aren't they? Wouldn't that be lovely?

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23 minutes ago, JennyMominFL said:

CC keeps saying his name is John Cesar.. Do they have it wrong?

Yes.  Mine does the same thing.  It's really Sessa.  Maybe Sesna?  I know it's not Cesar!

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>>CC keeps saying his name is John Cesar.. Do they have it wrong?

Probably because that's how LVP and Ken pronounce it...like "Sesser"  It's the same way they add an "R" to the end of Rinna..."Rinner"

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49 minutes ago, JennyMominFL said:

CC keeps saying his name is John Cesar.. Do they have it wrong?

Yes...his name is John Sessa (LVP's partner at VP Dogs).  The younger guy (event planner who came to LVP's house) is John Blizzard.

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Can I just say i love this recaps ending and agree with it 1000000000% lol

The problem with this fight is now it seems like no one is innocent. Dorit’s original sin was screwing up the dog in the first place, Teddi was definitely scheming to make Dorit look bad (not that Dorit needs any help in that department), and Lisa laid the foundation for Teddi to do this. They’re all awful. It’s all horrible. And yes, we will be talking about the dog for the rest of the season.

https://www.vulture.com/2019/03/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-recap-season-9-episode-5.html#comments

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12 hours ago, nexxie said:

Kyle dared to wear pink to LVP’s house (and commented about not going along with Lisa’s pink rules anymore) - but LVP just could not get herself to compliment Kyle on that suit, as she did Dorit. 

Yeah Kyle's outfit choice definitely (and passive aggressively) said "eff you LVP".

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