S09.E05: The Proof Hurts

[Jel]

1 minute ago, charming said:

Rinna is obsessed with LVP. I can't believe that haggard leather faced blowfish lipped bitch had the nerve to age shame LVP and mock how she looks. 

Instead of Erika and Dorit talking about LVP and why they're perfect wives- they should discuss their financial issues. Come on, ladies, you can't hide behind LVP for the whole season.

Rinna is delusional. Maybe her wig is too tight. 

[Door County Cherry]

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[nexxie]

1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Her anus lips kinda look like a target?

Who else saw the RHONJ scene where Margaret says Jennifer’s lips look like a monkey’s asshole - and thought of Rinna?

[tranquilidade]

I get the feeling no amount of evidence will change the way Kyle and Dorit feel about LVP because for them this is not about the dog story.   They just hate her now.  The preview for next week makes Teddie even more unlikable for me and I didn't think that was possible. 

[renatae]

Accountability Teddi, the queen of revisionist history.

It's hard to believe someone so vehemently defending herself as mostly innocent could twist the truth with practically every sentence. And now John B. confirms what LVP has said all along.

This is the "wait till you see how it turns out" that was supposed to convict Lisa and exonerate Teddi. Okaaaay.

Also loved Dorit proclaiming her complete innocence of any wrongdoing with PK as her cheerleader.

[Jel]

Every episode Kyle tells us what a great friend she is. Sorry Kyle, I'm still not convinced.

[Marley]

I believe Teddi now. But still don’t like Dorit. LVP is starting to look bad to me and I was thinking she wasn’t last week. The whole plan is becoming so obvious and it seems def set up by LVP or at least she has a part and I did not believe that before.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Dorit - "I've ridden horses all over the world."

Really don't need to hear about her sex life with PK. 

Horse Shaming!

[TattleTeeny]

I was very distracted during the Dorit/PK conversation due to PK's glass suddenly changing from a skinny one with white in it to a round one with red.

[Kiki777]

I wish there were more scenes of Erika at home.  No, I don't give a crap about her, I just wanna see more of her dog.  He is so handsome!!!!!

Loved the scenes at college.  I'm not a fan of Kyle or her bratty kids but I love her dogs and husband.

No words on PuppyGate.  Even posting about it would bore me.

tl;dr Dogs and Mauricio are awesome!

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

Nah. It's clotted cream.

Her gynecologist gave her an RX to clear it up.

Are you sure?

I heard it was a re-occuring issue as she has to give it up to Old Goat Cheese Balls bi-annually

Edited March 13, 2019 by KungFuBunny

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, chewycandy said:

Was Dorit expecting the early bird special?

Yes I think it was the the 4:30 PM special or was it the 4:06 PM?

[Keywestclubkid]

did you text Dorit Teddi knows? 

Yes

how did you know that Teddi knew?

I didn't know at the time.....

What the what? Then how did you know to and why did you text her Teddi knows? If NO ONE told you that Teddi knew? So Lisa pulled a thats so raven and magically knew that Teddi knew without her telling anyone to tell Teddi or being told that Teddi knew? lol Lisa just admit you knew and MOVE THE FUCK ON ....Let this die its now becoming super annoying 

Edited March 13, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[enchantingmonkey]

On Watch What Crappens Live, Kyle says that we're only seeing the texts (texas, lol) that make Teddi look guilty and there's more to them that we haven't seen, yet.  

Fear not, friends, this storyline has more mileage to it!

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

Kyle is trying to muddy the waters. Creating her own "Gotcha!" moment. 

Her inquiry of how LVP knows Teddi was informed was so transparent. LVP looked at her like a dumbass because she just told you Blizzard told her he was talking to Teddi.

[charming]

Does Teddi have a text from LVP giving "the order" about the dog? If not then give up the dream of dethroning LVP. It's not going to happen off this lame takedown especially in "defense" of Dorit over something that she is solely responsible for creating.

It's frustrating how Dorit has been characterized as some type of victim in this scenario and everyone has to "prove" their innocence to her. 

[Reality police]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Dorit - "I've ridden horses all over the world."

Really don't need to hear about her sex life with PK. 

Dorit - "I've ridden a jack ass all over the world."

There, fixed that for you. 😆

[Steph J]

45 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

And, I wondering how good a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, well done steak could possibly be.

It made me think of this.  Like, don't even bother ordering steak if that's what you're going to do to it.

[nexxie]

3 minutes ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

Kyle is trying to muddy the waters. Creating her own "Gotcha!" moment. 

Her inquiry of how LVP knows Teddi was informed was so transparent. LVP looked at her like a dumbass because she just told you Blizzard told her he was talking to Teddi.

Or Kyle had seen the additional texts she just mentioned on WWHL.

[Jel]

6 minutes ago, enchantingmonkey said:

On Watch What Crappens Live, Kyle says that we're only seeing the texts (texas, lol) that make Teddi look guilty and there's more to them that we haven't seen, yet.  

Fear not, friends, this storyline has more mileage to it!

I'll keep an open mind, but so far all the stuff that's supposed to incriminate Lisa and absolve Teddi has done the opposite. I'm not confident that Teddi or Kyle posses the critical thinking skills to understand when the argument is not going their way. 

I did notice something over the past couple of episodes -- Teddi talking about how she doesn't lie, isn't a liar, never has lied, never would lie etc. Ironically, talking like that is considered a tell for lying behavior.

[Dance4Life]

37 minutes ago, Door County Cherry said:

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Sorry!   But, what does this mean? 

Also, Half this ......Goofy Lucy I am very Juicy ......escandalo is being played out on social media right now. 

We cannot discuss this?

[missyb]

Kyle is on the edge of being defensive on WWHL. Thom seems pretty pro LVP, even thought he has known Dorit before she had a English accent.

I am a little curious how LVP gets out of this mess, I just dont think anyone will believe her and I would not be a bit surprised if she did set it up. It just doesn't bother me LOL.  They all try to control the narrative. I think Lisa RInna and Erika got Teddie all wound up and they are the ones who set her up.

I am sorry LVP and Kyle have split over this but, I get the impression that Kyle thinks it is just for now.

Edited March 13, 2019 by missyb

[Dance4Life]

3 minutes ago, Reality police said:

Dorit - "I've ridden a jack ass all over the world."

There, fixed that for you. 😆

Then she said, Israel.

She is Israeli.  HA!

[njbchlover]

3 minutes ago, Reality police said:

Dorit - "I've ridden a jack ass all over the world."

There, fixed that for you. 😆

Dorit - "I've ridden a boiled ham all over the world".

There, fixed it again!  😉

[Rosiejuliemom]

6 minutes ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

Kyle is trying to muddy the waters. Creating her own "Gotcha!" moment. 

Her inquiry of how LVP knows Teddi was informed was so transparent. LVP looked at her like a dumbass because she just told you Blizzard told her he was talking to Teddi.

Kyle's willful misunderstanding of that whole thing was making my eye twitch.

Lisa said that John Sessa told her that Blizzard was talking to Teddi.

Kyle kept using Lisa's insistence that she hadn't talked to Blizzard as proof that Lisa's story didn't add up.

Nah, it still adds up just fine. Blizzard tells Teddi. Sessa knows about it and informs Lisa. Lisa texts Dorit to tell her that Teddi knows. Easy peasy.

Do all of her kids take a chunk of Kyle's brain with them to college?

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

11 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Or Kyle had seen the additional texts she just mentioned on WWHL.

So why didn't she bring it up instead of feigning deafness when LVP answered her question

[Dance4Life]

Where is Juicy Lucy’s rehome Dumper???

Have they come forward?  And, say that Dorit is telling the truth?

During WWHL, Andy asked Dorit about it and she said...she was keeping her name confidential.

Do y’all think Dorit had someone dump Lucy at the shelter?

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Nah, it still adds up just fine. Blizzard tells Teddi. Sessa knows about it and informs Lisa. Lisa texts Dorit to tell her that Teddi knows. Easy peasy.

but that all falls apart when Lisa says she didn't know that Teddi knew when she texted Dorit that Teddi knew.so was she lying to Dorit? and if she was lying to dorit why? that would just cause more problems between them if it was a lie  ... then how did she know to text dorit that Teddi knew if no one told her? just admit some one told me and I texted her dont lie and say you had some kinda vision and that told you to text her.. this whole thing is just stupid now and annoying at this point It doesn't matter who did what just end it good god 

Edited March 13, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[howiveaddict]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Isn't this dog storyline pretty much the same as the Munchausen storyline a few seasons ago?  It seems awfully familiar.  Where's my Bambi?  Have we seen her this season?

Bambi refuses to film unless LVP is in the scene. She's on her side too.

2 hours ago, JennyMominFL said:

The biggest scandal of all. One filet, really really really well done.

Have been to paid business dinners where co workers have ordered their prime filets well done. The chef had to butterfly them to cook them that way. Criminal!

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

I’m on Kyle’s side: ‘let’s move forward from this’. But they won’t, it’ll be Lucygate all season long, and I’m so confused about this whole storyline. All I understand is that Dorito should have just given the dog back to LVP in the first place. The rest is boring as hell. 

Kyle and Rinna do not want to move on.  They want to destroy LVP.

My theory is that Dorit took the dog (or had a minion take the dog) to the shelter. She was going to say that the dog ran away until the shelter contacted the rescue place.

Edited March 13, 2019 by howiveaddict
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[princelina]

1 hour ago, langford peel said:

Carlton was a prior year's Teddi and she had a house blasphemously decorated with religious symbols.

Another loser who went after Lisa and ended up on the trash heap with other designated haters. 

If Teddi wants to see her future she just has to check out that season.

Did Carlton go after LVP?  I mostly remember that she hated Kyle.

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

I honestly don't think whether LVP or Teddy made the Dorit thing public should be everyone's main focus.  Why does that even matter?  Dorit gave the dog to a kill shelter, violated the contract and is lying through her teeth.  That should be the main focus.  And, everyone should have been made aware that she's a lying puppy dumper.

I agree totally, and I think it might have if LVP could just admit she was pissed at Dorit.  Even if Ken originally didn't want her to, it's out now so she should just "own it".  Her "why would I be upset with Dorit?" comment from last week is what will keep me from ever believing her in this "storyline".
 

8 minutes ago, missyb said:

I am a little curious how LVP gets out of this mess, I just dont think anyone will believe her and I would not be a bit surprised if she did set it up. It just doesn't bother me LOL.  They all try to control the narrative. I think Lisa RInna and Erika got Teddie all wound up and they are the ones who set her up.

Rumor has it that Ms. Can-dish-it-out-but-not-take-it just stops filming with them 😄

[njbchlover]

Just now, Dance4Life said:

Where is Juicy Lucy’s rehome Dumper???

Have they come forward?  And, say that Dorit is telling the truth?

During WWHL, Andy asked Dorit about it and she said...she was keeping her name confidential.

Do y’all think Dorit had someone dump Lucy at the shelter?

If John Sessa (or Blizzard - I'm too confused at this point to remember or care!) is to be believed, he said that he received a call (or text) from the shelter and the shelter said that a reality celebrity dropped the dog off.  So, it could possibly have been Dorit, herself.

[Rosiejuliemom]

12 minutes ago, missyb said:

I am sorry LVP and Kyle have split over this but, I get the impression that Kyle thinks it is just for now.

Kyle's still backpedaling.

It wouldn't surprise me if she leaves Dorit and Teddi flapping in the wind at the reunion and tries to slither back to Lisa. I dunno if Lisa will ever let her get close again, though. She seems genuinely over Kyle's BS.

[Dance4Life]

1 minute ago, njbchlover said:

If John Sessa (or Blizzard - I'm too confused at this point to remember or care!) is to be believed, he said that he received a call (or text) from the shelter and the shelter said that a reality celebrity dropped the dog off.  So, it could possibly have been Dorit, herself.

Yea, I thought Dorit was smarter than that.  Dorit with the stupid fake accents stands out.

Shall be interesting to see how this plays out, too.

Instead, on the Puppy Dumpers chatting pool side....they should have that lady come on the show and talk to LVP. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Ewww. Creepy, lecherous photographer from Yolanda’s modeling show. 

[njbchlover]

2 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Yea, I thought Dorit was smarter than that.  Dorit with the stupid fake accents stands out.

Shall be interesting to see how this plays out, too.

Instead, on the Puppy Dumpers chatting pool side....they should have that lady come on the show and talk to LVP. 

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Dorit did it herself (the shelter was in Orange County).

Hard to have someone who is imaginary speak to someone who is alive.  (Maybe Dorit can have a dinner party and invite Alison Dubois to help out with all of this!)

[Lady of nod]

50 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

I get the feeling no amount of evidence will change the way Kyle and Dorit feel about LVP because for them this is not about the dog story.   They just hate her now.  The preview for next week makes Teddie even more unlikable for me and I didn't think that was possible. 

Am I having amnesia or wasn't it just last year that Erika was having several goes at Teddy and bringing her to tears, and Teddy and Dorit were at each other all season?  And wasn't LVP standing up for Teddy?  So it makes perfect sense to me that she would be happy to expose Dorit's puppy dumping. Until she saw the tide going against LVP and along came Rhinna and Erika giving her an out telling her it was a setup. At that point bells went off in her tiny brain and she saw a chance to get on what she perceived to be the winning side. At least in numbers. She really didn't gel with anybody but Lisa last year.

and I'dnever trust anyone who says they've never lied. 

[SheTalksShit]

I have to admit, Teddi has a point here: 

Quote

 LVP to Blizzard: “I don’t care if you tell Donald Trump.” So LVP isn’t worried that Blizzard told me, just that he told me she wanted him to tell me. But back in the Bahamas, she agreed with Denise that Blizzard never should have said anything, period. So, which is it? 

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/season-9/blogs/teddi-mellencamp-arroyave/teddi-2

I think maybe she was exhausted by Sessa's relentless talking about it and wanting Dorit held accountable, so she said, "Fine, tell whoever, I don't care if you tell Donald Trump, FFS!" But then later changed her mind when she realized her husband, Ken, was adamantly against putting it out there because he and Dorit's husband, PK, are close friends. 

It seems obvious, at this point, that John Sessa was the one who really wanted this story out there, he's the one who hand-reared the puppy, so he's the one who had the most emotional investment in the puppy and what happened. I think everyone else just kinda went along with it because he was relentless about holding Dorit accountable. 

[Dance4Life]

I feel Erika has outgrown that house.  So, stuffy.

She should be living in a fab high rise penthouse fully staffed in the middle of BH.

That Chapel room....dreadful! 

Erika Jayne....would never! She is too cool for The Valley.  😎

[Jel]

8 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Kyle's still backpedaling.

It wouldn't surprise me if she leaves Dorit and Teddi flapping in the wind at the reunion and tries to slither back to Lisa. I dunno if Lisa will ever let her get close again, though. She seems genuinely over Kyle's BS.

I hope she is over her. Enough already.

[charming]

2 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

I feel Erika has outgrown that house.  So, stuffy.

She should be living in a fab high rise penthouse fully staffed in the middle of BH.

That Chapel room....dreadful! 

Erika Jayne....would never! She is too cool for The Valley.  😎

I don't think they can afford it. Lawsuits, ya know.

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, SheTalksShit said:

I have to admit, Teddi has a point here: 

I think maybe she was exhausted by Sessa's relentless talking about it and wanting Dorit held accountable, so she said, "Fine, tell whoever, I don't care if you tell Donald Trump, FFS!" But then later changed her mind when she realized her husband, Ken, was adamantly against putting it out there because he and Dorit's husband, PK, are close friends. 

It seems obvious, at this point, that John Sessa was the one who really wanted this story out there, he's the one who hand-reared the puppy, so he's the one who had the most emotional investment in the puppy and what happened. I think everyone else just kinda went along with it because he was relentless about holding Dorit accountable. 

That's pretty much what she said on the bus to the airport and in her blog. She didn't give a shit who said what about it, she just wanted the dog out of the shelter.

[Dance4Life]

4 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Am I having amnesia or wasn't it just last year that Erika was having several goes at Teddy and bringing her to tears, and Teddy and Dorit were at each other all season?  And wasn't LVP standing up for Teddy?  So it makes perfect sense to me that she would be happy to expose Dorit's puppy dumping. Until she saw the tide going against LVP and along came Rhinna and Erika giving her an out telling her it was a setup. At that point bells went off in her tiny brain and she saw a chance to get on what she perceived to be the winning side. At least in numbers. She really didn't gel with anybody but Lisa last year.

and I'dnever trust anyone who says they've never lied. 

Teddi is also being used by the other side because Rinna just want to make LVP look bad.

They don’t give two hoots about her.

[SheTalksShit]

1 minute ago, Dance4Life said:

Teddi is also being used by the other side because Rinna just want to make LVP look bad.

They don’t give two hoots about her.

Rinna really has it out for LVP, for some reason. I'm not sure why, maybe because she's been in the industry much longer than LVP, yet LVP still remains queen on the show? Maybe because of the whole Munchausen's thing from a few seasons ago? Or maybe a combination of both, IDK, all I know is that it's obvious Rinna has it out for her. 

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, Dance4Life said:

Teddi is also being used by the other side because Rinna just want to make LVP look bad.

They don’t give two hoots about her.

It gives me a sort of sadistic glee to know that Teddi will be discarded by the rest of them as soon as she isn't needed anymore. Erika will go right back to hating her, Rinna is too fond of her space in Erika's colon to risk it for her, Dorit will criticize her stemware, Kyle will deflect everything she can onto her.

And Lisa? She'll give her the s5 Brandi treatment.

[charming]

1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

It gives me a sort of sadistic glee to know that Teddi will be discarded by the rest of them as soon as she isn't needed anymore. Erika will go right back to hating her, Rinna is too fond of her space in Erika's colon to risk it for her, Dorit will criticize her stemware, Kyle will deflect everything she can onto her.

And Lisa? She'll give her the s5 Brandi treatment.

That's if Teddi even comes back next season.

[enchantingmonkey]

3 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

It seems obvious, at this point, that John Sessa was the one who really wanted this story out there, he's the one who hand-reared the puppy, so he's the one who had the most emotional investment in the puppy and what happened. I think everyone else just kinda went along with it because he was relentless about holding Dorit accountable. 

If you look at the bottom of that page of the text exchange between John Blizzard and Teddi, there's a text that reads "This season on Vanderpump Dogs...." followed by a laughing emoji and the dog face emoji.  So, it appears that both Sessa and Blizzard were intent on getting this story on the show.  

I wouldn't be surprised if John Blizzard had a viewing party for his scenes with LVP tonight.  

[Dance4Life]

1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

It gives me a sort of sadistic glee to know that Teddi will be discarded by the rest of them as soon as she isn't needed anymore. Erika will go right back to hating her, Rinna is too fond of her space in Erika's colon to risk it for her, Dorit will criticize her stemware, Kyle will deflect everything she can onto her.

And Lisa? She'll give her the s5 Brandi treatment.

 But, at least Teddi got her exercise video out!  

Right there with husband.

Those two are giving me Tamrat and Eddie vibes.  Hahahah! 🏋🏼‍♀️

Yea, Apollo and Phaedra made a video, too. 

Soooo, original, that boring ass Teddi.

[Rosiejuliemom]

Just now, charming said:

That's if Teddi even comes back next season.

She might be on steadier ground than Rinna, who keeps attacking production and making noise about legal action.

Andy doesn't like it when the 4th wall is breached.

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

Kyle and Mauricio are the best parents.  They have the most grounded family and they are so good to their girls.

They are on their 3rd college educated child.

This is why I like Kyle on HWs.

Big sis Kathy is 10 years older than Kyle. Two of Kathy's four kids have attended college; only one graduated. Though 3 of Kathy's four kids have had serious substance abuse issues. When Kyle is at her most obnoxious, I still kind of like her because she and Mo have raised some decent, if slightly spoiled, kids. The Hadidn'ts are insufferable. Someone did a good job with Erika's son Tommy, but it sure as shit wasn't her. Anyway given the current celebrity college scandal, remember Alexia started at University of Arizona, but transferred to a college in Boston. This is what happens with normal kids. This is where Kyle is her most down to earth.

In the real world, one would fire John Blizzard for what he admitted to doing and not have that weird stilted conversation. He still works for VanderPups.

[SheTalksShit]

7 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Big sis Kathy is 10 years older than Kyle. Two of Kathy's four kids have attended college; only one graduated. Though 3 of Kathy's four kids have had serious substance abuse issues. When Kyle is at her most obnoxious, I still kind of like her because she and Mo have raised some decent, if slightly spoiled, kids. The Hadidn'ts are insufferable. Someone did a good job with Erika's son Tommy, but it sure as shit wasn't her. Anyway given the current celebrity college scandal, remember Alexia started at University of Arizona, but transferred to a college in Boston. This is what happens with normal kids. This is where Kyle is her most down to earth.

In the real world, one would fire John Blizzard for what he admitted to doing and not have that weird stilted conversation. He still works for VanderPups.

Does anyone else recall when Erika went crazy on Eileen because Eileen said, offhandedly, “It’s not like she killed your child!” 

Then she turned it into, “Well, my son is a police officer, he really could get killed!” Umm ya everybody’s child could get killed, not just your son. That irritated me. And it was obvious that’s not really what she was upset about, what she was really upset about was that Eileen was no longer taking her side.