S03.E10 The Last Seven Weeks

[Lady Calypso]

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01/15/2019 (09:00PM - 10:01PM) (Tuesday) : Randall's campaign comes to a close. Kevin meets someone from Zoe's past. Kate and Toby get ready for the baby.

[Armchair Critic]

Ugh of course Randall won, I feel like I am bombarded with political stuff all the time and I don't want to see it here too.

But thankfully Kevin has been so cute lately. Maybe it's because I recently saw Justin Hartley in that Bad Mom movie..... ;)

I was kind of bored with Toby and Kate but him building that stadium was sweet.

And Nicky is alive as we surmised before.

[greekmom]

Back on the hate train for Kate. No one sells 1979 Star Wars action figures and for 10 bucks!!! She cannot be that stupid. I would have slapped that snot nosed kid who wouldn’t give them back and then called his mother.  Toby is a saint for not being overly upset at Kate then building that stadium for her. 

Interesting turn of events – Jack knew Nicky was alive. Wonder why he kept it a secret.

Sucks that Randall won. Wish they would have moved on from that storyline.

[Lady Calypso]

Well, no surprise Randall won. Of course everything comes up Randall. I knew that they couldn't have Randall not win the damn election. 

So, this cues Randall moving his family to Philadelphia. I feel bad for his girls. 

[Spartan Girl]

I'm glad Randall and Beth made up, but I'm still kind of worried now that he won the election...

Aw come on, Kate, Star Wars collectibles are NOT just toys!

[ams1001]

Hey, Tobes, maybe if that box was so important to you you should have actually written out the words "DO NOT SELL" instead of expecting Kate to know what your abbreviation meant.

Hey, Randall, maybe you look like "a family man without a family" because your family lives effing two hours away! (Oh, yeah, and so do you!) 

Hey, show finally realized that Alpine is two hours, not one, away from Philly.

Of course, Randall sob-stories his way to a blueberry pie.
And Kate sob-stories her way to...nothing! lol (I can't be the only one who cheered Gabe, can I?)

Okay, the stadium was cute and very sweet.

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[chitowngirl]

Kate's been around Hollywood for quite some time. There is no way she didn’t know what those collectibles were worth! $10! Really?! I knew what was going to happen and I laughed when the buyer couldn’t care less about a Pearson monologue. 

[mtlchick]

"And I want John Stamos back."  Don't we all?

The good: the stadium, and me cringing when Kate said the Star Wars action figures were just "toys."  You NEVER say that and I don't even like them!

The bad: Randall won.  UGH.  

I mentally tuned out of the episode a lot, which says a lot as to what they have been given as of late.

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, greekmom said:

Back on the hate train for Kate. No one sells 1979 Star Wars action figures and for 10 bucks!!! She cannot be that stupid. I would have slapped that snot nosed kid who wouldn’t give them back and then called his mother.  Toby is a saint for not being overly upset at Kate then building that stadium for her. 

Sad thing is that it's totally realistic. My mom and my grandmother do not understand why my father and grandfather, respectively, keep boxes of baseball cards. My grandmother has even tried to get my grandfather to sell all of his cards. I am on Toby's side but I also think Kate's reaction is realistic.

I was about to protest how everything comes up Randall while Kevin gets shit on yet again by not getting the girl once more, but I'm glad he worked things out with Zoe. I am getting invested in their relationship. 

[Katy M]

OK, when Kate started telling that kid why he had to give the stuff back (and no he didn't by the way), I rolled my eyes and said "not another Pearson sppech."  But, I ended up loving it for two reasons.  First, because it didn't work.  SEcond, because about 3 seconds into it, Kate seemed really self-aware of what she was doing.  Yes, she continued, but I think it's the first time any of these people have realized how ridiculous their speechifying is.

Toby, it doesn't take that much effort to write "do not sell" instead of DNS.  Plus stick it in the closet away from where all the stuff you are going to sell is.

All in all, I was pretty happy with their story.  kate made a mistake and tried her best to make it right instead of just blowing it off.

I'm glad that Randall didn't use the drunk driving thing, but I rolled my eyes so hard that it was even a thing in the first place.

And, I am just so offended by that church.  You do not go to church to be seen and you do not go to church to find out who to vote for and the minister shouldn't be telling you that anyway.

Not a huge Zoe fan.  Although, Ihave to admit I have broken up by phone a couple of times.  But, even that has to be be better than text. Or email. Whichever it was.

[ShadowFacts]

Randall had about three speeches too many, and of course after the one to his staffers, you knew he was going to win.  Kate's really moved on enough to pull the dad died in the house fire card on the college kid, and I am also glad it didn't work.  But I do think Kate and Tobe Babe are really hitting it out of the park with their supportiveness of each other. 

[ams1001]

2 minutes ago, Katy M said:

And, I am just so offended by that church.  You do not go to church to be seen and you do not go to church to find out who to vote for and the minister shouldn't be telling you that anyway.

Then there are those of us who would vote against the guy who makes a big deal of what a pious soul they are. (Not that politicians tend to care about us much.)

[CleoCaesar]

I wish Randall gets run over by a truck at some point this season. I cannot stand his self-absorbed ass. His stupid sappy speeches. His getting the effing blueberry pie after hassling the cashier. His turning off Anderson Cooper – that his family was actively watching – to perform – oh yes! – yet another cheesy monologue. I suppose his enormous self-absorption makes sense, from his constantly being fawned over by Rebecca and Jack in childhood and by Beth in adulthood. For what, I do not know.

And of course he won. How could Randall Pearson, saint that he is, son of even bigger saint, NOT win an election in a district he doesn't live in?

 

At least I loved that the guy who bought Toby’s collectibles wasn’t even a little bit moved by Kate’s cringy guilt trip monologue to get them back. (Then again if the writers are self-aware about the repetitive emotionally manipulative monologues they write, maybe they should stop writing them.)

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, Katy M said:

Toby, it doesn't take that much effort to write "do not sell" instead of DNS.  Plus stick it in the closet away from where all the stuff you are going to sell is.

That whole situation was ridiculous. Toby, spell out DNS. Kate, DNS is not an abbreviation for Donations. If other boxes that you've been taking to donate do not have DNS written on it, why would one random box? Both of them were super dumb.

I also gotta reiterate how dumb it is for Randall to have won. He had seven weeks to convince people, yes, but he was only knocking on doors for about five of those weeks. I'm pretty sure he wasn't knocking on doors prior to Thanksgiving. That shouldn't be enough to convince over 50% of the community that he's the better choice. Also, he even took a week off from doing anything because he was overcompensating with family stuff! At least, that's how I interpreted it. I'm just really irritated by this political storyline. The only hope is that the show drops it by the season 3 finale and Randall finds his new seasonal project for the likely renewed season 4. 

Also, Beth shouldn't have forgiven Randall THAT quickly and I don't think she should have apologized to the extent that she did. Randall was such an ass to her right after their big fight. He basically accused her of not supporting him and threw the whole stay-at-home-dad-without-complaining stuff at Beth. When, HELLO, Beth was a stay at home mom while working part time for ten years prior and not complaining! 

It's not that I don't think Beth and Randall can't work things out. I just think Randall needs to be grovelling a bit more and Beth should be holding out a little bit on forgiving him so quickly. But I'm annoyed that Randall gets away with everything just because he Randall-fies everything with some big-ass speech. 

[Amethyst]

That kid made it through a treacly Pearson monologue, complete with dead father, pregnancy, and a burned down house.  He deserved to keep the collectibles.  I feel bad, but Kate's stunned look at the end just had me laughing.  She really thought he would buy that manipulative crap.

Damn, we were so close to being done with this political mess.  I hated Beth apologizing to Randall and I hate that this stupid plot is going to continue.

I did like the stadium Toby built for Kate.  It felt like a nice blend of old and new.

[Neurochick]

Ugh, I wanted Kate to slap that kid.  I hate disrespectful kids.

So what Randall won?  People win elections all the time and move their families, happens in politics.  I don’t think Randall should grovel, damn.  Sometimes it’s better to be happy than to be right.

Glad Zoe let down her walls.  

Edited January 16, 2019 by Neurochick

[Katy M]

4 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I also gotta reiterate how dumb it is for Randall to have won. He had seven weeks to convince people, yes, but he was only knocking on doors for about five of those weeks. I'm pretty sure he wasn't knocking on doors prior to Thanksgiving. That shouldn't be enough to convince over 50% of the community that he's the better choice. Also, he even took a week off from doing anything because he was overcompensating with family stuff! At least, that's how I interpreted it. I'm just really irritated by this political storyline. The only hope is that the show drops it by the season 3 finale and Randall finds his new seasonal project for the likely renewed season 4. 

Well, obviously he Pearson-speeched the minister and the minister basically told his whole congregation to vote for him, and since they apparently have no minds of their own, that's how it went down.

[PepSinger]

Heh, this was my favorite episode of the season so far. I loved the Zoe/Kevin storyline. I was reminded of the Randall that I loved in season one. The only thing I didn't like was Beth apologizing. I almost didn't mind Randall winning.

Toby having that stadium built made me tear up. I have had several things that were dear to me lost in a fire, and I can't imagine how I would react if I could get those items back.

Edited January 16, 2019 by PepSinger

[Katy M]

1 minute ago, Neurochick said:

Ugh, I wanted Kate to slap that kid.  I hate disrespectful kids.

So what Randall won?  People win elections all the time and move their families, happens in politics.

Glad Zoe let down her walls.  Sometimes it’s better to be happy than right.

What did he do that was so disrespectful?  He bought something on eBay (I presume or something like it anyway), and paid for it.  It is now his. Kate asked to buy it back.  He said no fairly politely.  She persisted.  He said no again.  She gave him a long speech and then maybe he got a little attitudey, but by that time I can't blame him.  He did nothing wrong.

[Lady Calypso]

6 minutes ago, Amethyst said:

That kid made it through a treacly Pearson monologue, complete with dead father, pregnancy, and a burned down house.  He deserved to keep the collectibles.  I feel bad, but Kate's stunned look at the end just had me laughing.  She really thought he would buy that manipulative crap.

It's better when you know that she went back AT LEAST once more to try it again and he STILL didn't budge.

3 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Ugh, I wanted Kate to slap that kid.  I hate disrespectful kids.

I don't see him as being disrespectful. Kate tracked him down when he was at a New Years party. He listened to her speech and told her that he would not sell her the collectibles back. He recognized how valuable they were. Then she went back to ask for them back again, even after he said no. She tried, but he was not disrespectful. He got those collectibles fair and square. 

[balmz]

eh ok episode

was amused when kate's speech didn't work, also that was stupid of both of them, toby for not labeling the box clearly and kate for selling it and telling him he had to sell his stuff

no surprise with the randall plot but i thought at the end when he got the call that the consuelman was going to be dead from a  drunk driving accident, also i agreed with randall's manager, if he was stupid enough to drive drunk and bribe people to cover it up rather then face the consequences like an adult then he deserves to have his campaign ruined

Was expecting randall to give on of those speechs to the bakery and then of course they would bake him a pie right away

 

kevin and zoe plot was ok

[ams1001]

16 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

 he Randall-fies everything with some big-ass speech 

Since they all do it, I move that we call it Pearsonification.

Edited January 16, 2019 by ams1001

[WhosThatGirl]

That was boring.

Also To ugh time, a few things I mumbled to people I was watching with “I mean.. I hate this political storyline so I don’t care how it ends but he will probably win because it’s this show. I just wish it was over. It’s stupid and boring. I mean he’s probably going to win and I think we are supposed to be surprised that he ends up winning but we are?”

Also I still don’t know how I feel about the Nicky is Alice twist. I write a paragraph about my feelings on it in the last episodes thread and don’t feel like doing so again but it explains my feelings perfectly. And I don’t know how I feel about Jack knowing the whole time. It just bothers me because unlike the first two seasons where it seemed like the writers formed a cohesive plot structure for two seasons that had good, sometimes great storytelling, this season feels like they just threw something together for dramatic effect. Maybe I’m wrong and I’m just projecting how I’m viewing it but it doesn’t feel cohesive to me and anything like the first two seasons. 

[tennisgurl]

Of course Randall wins the election. Of course he does. So now do they have to leave their town and school and house to move to their new neighborhood? I am sure the girls, who are all already going through stuff, will just LOVE that. I hate that Randall gets off the hook after one stupid speech. It wasn't even a very good speech by Pearson standards.

I cant believe that Kate sold 70s Star Wars action figures for $10! I bet that kid was like "What a dumbass! Score!" when he saw those! I mean, they both screwed up on that one. Toby should have marked the package more clearly, and Kate should have realized that you dont sell stuff like that, and that DNS obviously does not stand for donate! And her "its just toys" reaction just made things worse. Like, read the room, Kate!

The football stadium was quite cute though, although this whole mess started out because of a mistake that KATE made, even if they really need a system for marking boxes. I cracked up when the kid didnt go for the Pearson speech. He was just like "sorry...no...those are paying off my student loans, lady". 

Really enjoyed the Kevin stuff, although I worry about where he and Zoe will go. I like Zoe, and I can get why she has issues, and so does Kevin, and I like them together, but I still worry that Kevin will get his heart broken. I mean, an email? Damn girl, that is cold. 

Edited January 16, 2019 by tennisgurl

[lavenderblue]

5 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Also I still don’t know how I feel about the Nicky is Alice twist.

This is a fantastic typo and I'm now surprised the show didn't go there for extra drama while they were at it.

[Lady Calypso]

9 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

Really enjoyed the Kevin stuff, although I worry about where he and Zoe will go. I like Zoe, and I can get why she has issues, and so does Kevin, and I like them together, but I still worry that Kevin will get his heart broken. I mean, an email? Damn girl, that is cold. 

I'm hoping that this storyline is growth for Zoe as much as it is growth for Kevin. I like that they're explaining that Zoe's past history with relationships is for a specific reason but that doesn't mean she's still that girl now that Kevin's in her life. She's showing that she's willing to change as well, much like Kevin has changed. He used to be the guy who shut off his feelings and emotions up until last season. We know Kevin did some shitty things in past relationships, so Zoe breaking up with a long term relationship via email is still about the same as Kevin cheating on his now ex wife and continuously breaking her heart, along with how his other relationships have ended. I think them showing how similar Zoe and Kevin are, but also the legit reason for Zoe's issues, is what helps me like the couple, and Zoe, more and more.

[CleoCaesar]

57 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Back on the hate train for Kate. No one sells 1979 Star Wars action figures and for 10 bucks!!! She cannot be that stupid. I would have slapped that snot nosed kid who wouldn’t give them back and then called his mother. 

Wait, what? The guy bought them fair and square on eBay. They're his lawful possessions. What exactly did he do to warrant being called snot-nosed and hypothetically slapped? Calling his mother for what?

[WhosThatGirl]

14 minutes ago, lavenderblue said:

This is a fantastic typo and I'm now surprised the show didn't go there for extra drama while they were at it.

Ha. I feel like an idiot. 

But honestly I’m really over the show and I hate this twist with Nicky. It truly feels like they just threw this in because drama and it feels like such a strange turn as if they didn’t have a good plan unlike the past two seasons that were quite good.

[chocolatine]

4 hours ago, ams1001 said:

(I can't be the only one who cheered Gabe, can I?)

 

You're not! I wanted to high-five him through the TV.

3 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Ugh, I wanted Kate to slap that kid.  I hate disrespectful kids.

 

He bought the action figures from her fair and square, and refused to sell them back, which was completely within his rights. It's not his problem that Toby is too lazy to write three full words to secure his most treasured mementoes and that Kate has been living under a rock and doesn't know how valuable Star Wars action figures are.

I'm so mad that Randall won the election. He's grown so insufferable over the past season-and-a-half that a big dose of humility was the only thing that could have redeemed him. Instead he gets the win - and the last blueberry pie - handed to him (seriously, he didn't even offer to reimburse the reverend for the pie!!!)

Does Zoe have to be tedious every single time she interacts with Kevin? I want to see them have some lighthearted fun and banter together, otherwise it's really hard to see *why* Kevin loves her.

The fact that Jack kept a big secret from his family and took it to his grave is a million times more interesting than all the Saint Jack crap we've been getting.

Edited January 16, 2019 by chocolatine

[Eaglemama]

I actually enjoyed the show.  I was thrilled and surprised that Randall won without using the dirt on his opponent.  Kevin was fun to watch caring for Zoe with out pushing too much.  The Nicky story is puzzling

[Dreamboat Annie]

Oh, the geek references tonight were awesome!  Star Wars (an original Boba Fett!), Game of Thrones, Clark Kent.  But.. accuracy police here.  Gabe the geek having a cool party?  Nope.  Not gonna happen.  Who would go?* 

The election.  So predictable.  Was anyone else sitting there when Beth and Randall were snuggling in bed, all tired and cute, and thinking (or saying out loud like me) "Okay.  That phone is going to ring.  He's going to answer it.  He will look all serious.  He will thank the caller, turn to Beth and say 'I won'"? 

 

* With people outside and being loud, I did not get that they were playing Magic the Gathering. 

[tennisgurl]

Oh, I forgot Kevin using a Game of Thrones allegory to get information from the woman at the VA, only for her to Game of Thrones him right back! That was so great, it got a full on laugh out of me. 

That college kid shutting down a classic Pearson speech was something else. Now I just imagine all of these side characters getting together to bitch about ridiculous Pearson antics. Like the group chat that the in-laws all have, but even bigger! I mean, what does this kid care about the backstory of this random person? Of course, of all the Pearson's, Kate really is the queen of over sharing with random strangers. 

I still am amazed that Kate, who worked in Hollywood for years, has no clue how much those Star Wars figures are worth. Or even thought that these old things in their place might just have sentimental value. 

Edited January 16, 2019 by tennisgurl

[Pop Tart]

50 minutes ago, lavenderblue said:

56 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Also I still don’t know how I feel about the Nicky is Alice twist.

This is a fantastic typo and I'm now surprised the show didn't go there for extra drama while they were at it.

Yes! I was like wait, Nicky is transgender and is now Alice? How’d I miss that? Then I realized typo for alive, and was like yeah hate that too. Had all those thoughts in the space of about two seconds, and then thought, meh, show truly could have gone either way for the dramatic shock value.

[Ms Blue Jay]

31 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

Does Zoe have to be tedious every single time she interacts with Kevin? I want to see them have some lighthearted fun and banter together, otherwise it's really hard to see *why* Kevin loves her.

LOL!  Agree!

[zillabreeze]

36 minutes ago, Dreamboat Annie said:

Was anyone else sitting there when Beth and Randall were snuggling in bed, all tired and cute

I didn't see them as snuggly and cute.  Randall was blathering on and on AGAIN.  I swear these people just speechify at each other.  Once one starts talking they don't shut up until the next commercial break.

[camom]

Neither Randall nor Beth has had a job for quite a while, right?  What are they living on?  I'm sure they had savings, but neither one seems the least bit concerned about money.  I guess now Randall will be getting paid by the city of Philadelphia.  I assume they'll have to move there, which will be really hard on the girls.

[WhosThatGirl]

28 minutes ago, zillabreeze said:

I didn't see them as snuggly and cute.  Randall was blathering on and on AGAIN.  I swear these people just speechify at each other.  Once one starts talking they don't shut up until the next commercial break.

Seriously, Randall just kept talking. And talking. And talking. 

[kissedbyarose]

I’m not sure how long I can stick with this show if TPTB insist on doubling down on this political storyline. I can’t find one thing enjoyable about it and it seems (maybe because I hate it that much) that its taking up large parts of this show and I just... 

 

Please show. Give it up. None of it makes sense anyway.  

 

PS. While I’m here, can we give up the longwinded speeches too? Kate’s to the college kid and Randall’s... well I’m counting three right off the top of my head (in this episode alone!) were especially cringeworthy. 

[Drumpf1737]

3 hours ago, ams1001 said:

  2 hours ago, Katy M said:

And, I am just so offended by that church.  You do not go to church to be seen and you do not go to church to find out who to vote for and the minister shouldn't be telling you that anyway.

Martin Luther King Jr was a minister of a church who talked a lot about politics from the pulpit. Voting and politics are part of the church for Black people because elections have real consequences in our community. 

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Oh, I forgot Kevin using a Game of Thrones allegory to get information from the woman at the VA, only for her to Game of Thrones him right back! That was so great, it got a full on laugh out of me. 

The most awesome moment in television this year--calling it now.

Kevin and Zoe were my favorite part of this episode.

[WhosThatGirl]

20 minutes ago, kissedbyarose said:

I’m not sure how long I can stick with this show if TPTB insist on doubling down on this political storyline. I can’t find one thing enjoyable about it and it seems (maybe because I hate it that much) that its taking up large parts of this show and I just... 

 

Please show. Give it up. None of it makes sense anyway.  

 

PS. While I’m here, can we give up the longwinded speeches too? Kate’s to the college kid and Randall’s... well I’m counting three right off the top of my head (in this episode alone!) were especially cringeworthy. 

Randall’s speech was awful. I literally just wanted the show to end. Even SKB seemed to be phoning that speech in with the monotone delivery. Is he over it too?  Seems like it. 

Again I have to say.. they really don’t seem to have a plan for this season. Nicky being alive and jack knowing is not.. good. The political stuff is so dumb and I’m not excited about it. And I wish I could be excited about Kate and Tony’s baby but I’m not. I kind of like Kevin’s story m but I wish that it wasn’t tied up in the Nicky story so much.

Also as much as I adore Mandy and Milo, it’s clear their scenes now in this show are irrelevant. It’s either flashbacks or just standing around in present day scenes for Mandy and this season the flashbacks feel random and out of place in the show. For Milo it’s just flashback scenes and this season most of his consist of the war and I’m not into that, it’s not my thing. And if it’s not that it’s random flashbacks and see what I said earlier. This season like most of the season the show seems to be having a hard time connecting the flashbacks.

They.. tried tonight I guess by having Randall remember his scenes with jack but it still doesn’t flow like it has in past seasons and this time all the flashback did was bring the show down some more by having it intercut with Randall and his monotone voice over. 

[MBayGal]

Oh.  He won. Was anyone surprised?

This Is (un)Us(ually predictable)

[MBayGal]

2 hours ago, camom said:

Neither Randall nor Beth has had a job for quite a while, right?  What are they living on?  I'm sure they had savings, but neither one seems the least bit concerned about money.  I guess now Randall will be getting paid by the city of Philadelphia.  I assume they'll have to move there, which will be really hard on the girls.

Once they sell their lovely home and move into a 2-br, 1-bath in Randall's building, they'll have plenty of money.

As for Kate's speech, if I were Gabe I would have thought she was making all that up to guilt him into giving them up. She sounded so arrogant and entitled, not like someone grieving her mistake. Glad he blew her off!

[Guest]

Of course Randall won and of course instead of maintaining her justifiable anger, Beth forgave him because he’s so amazing. One blueberry pie completely makes up for everything.

I was so glad the kid wouldn’t sell the figures back to Kate, if only because of her insufferable speech. Toby was sweet to build the stadium.

Kevin was also a jerk after the meeting with Zoe’s ex. You knew she didn’t have the greatest relationship history. You pressure her to move in and then act all pissy?

Still don’t care about Jack and Nicky. 

My conclusion this week is that the blood Pearsons  suck but those married in are okay.

[GSMHvisitor]

This is where the show has officially lost me.

I can't believe Randall actually won. This politics storyline is boring, stupid and makes no sense. Plus it makes Randall even more uninsufferable. He started becoming that with the Deja story and the politics story only added to it. And now it still continues? Enough already.

I can't believe they really make Beth cave to Randall's wants all the time? Randall can use his big words and say how his family isthe most important thing to him all he wants, but his actions speak differently and so I don't believe him. What about Beth's professional aspirations? Why is that something nobody cares about? And now they're uprooting the kids for their father's ego trip? Seriously?

I can't believe Jack knew about Nicky and kept it a secret from his entire family all this time. I don't believe you have to tell each other everything in a relationship or a marriage, but this is too big and important a thing to hide. Jack used the dead brother card on his sons when they were fighting in s2 and frankly I find it disgusting.

I can't believe Kate was the one who got a thoughtful present when she was the one who screwed up? How could she not know that Star Wars collectables have lots of value?!? Both for Toby and when she sold them for a dime? Even I know that. Glad the geek kid didn't cave to her speechifying, though.

I can't believe the writers are really sticking with Zoe/Kevin. Her character gives me nothing. The acting is so bland and apart from her stunning beauty I can't see why Kevin would fall in love with her. She just doesn't strike as a warm or loving person at all. She says she's in love with Kevin, but I don't SEE it.

[Arcadiasw]

Not surprised Randall won but I was hoping Beth wouldn’t forgive Randle so quickly.

How can Randall throw being a stay-at-home Dad in front of Beth when HE was the one who quit his job?  Also Beth did it for years while working part time.

On top of calling it junk, I was annoyed with Kate telling Toby he had to sell his stuff in the first place. I understand they have to make space for the kid but it doesn’t mean you have to sell your things unless YOU want to. Put it in storage. I’m on the kid’s side for not giving the collection back to her. I find it hard to believe Kate didn’t realize how valuable Toby’s toys were. Kate’s 38, not 88 and has two brothers who are in the age range of watching the OT growing up on TV and the Prequels when they came out in theaters when they were in their teens and early 20s.  

 

6 hours ago, Katy M said:

Well, obviously he Pearson-speeched the minister and the minister basically told his whole congregation to vote for him, and since they apparently have no minds of their own, that's how it went down.

That's how voting is some areas, especially churches. Some people rather have their religious leader tell them who to vote for instead of doing the research themselves.

[debraran]

1 hour ago, Arcadiasw said:

On top of calling it junk, I was annoyed with Kate telling Toby he had to sell his stuff in the first place. I understand they have to make space for the kid but it doesn’t mean you have to sell your things unless YOU want to. Put it in storage. I’m on the kid’s side for not giving the collection back to her. I find it hard to believe Kate didn’t realize how valuable Toby’s toys were. Kate’s 38, not 88 and has two brothers who are in the age range of watching the OT growing up on TV and the Prequels when they came out in theaters when they were in their teens and early 20s.  

 

That's how voting is some areas, especially churches. Some people rather have their religious leader tell them who to vote for instead of doing the research themselves.

Some people have radio hosts do the same thing. I even heard one say "Don't watch the debate, I'll interpret it tomorrow for you" (gag)

I was a bit underwhelmed. The Nicky thing was slow in coming and it seems obvious that he had emotional and mental issues not dealt with. Why Jack would hide that from family, they weren't going to run down and smash down his door, is beyond me. Hiding a relative with mental illness seems odd, just talk about it and say that's how he wants it, and let it go. The scene in preview with all 3 outside his camper is kind of scary, I hope they reached out first.

I thought the Ebay thing was nice but it's not the same. I had someone throw out a Thumbelina doll I loved for years and, many years later, they got the same doll from ebay and I understood the sentiment, but it wasn't my doll. My doll had markings I made, hair was a certain way, I understand the thought, that meant a lot to me and my kids but it's not the same. The love Toby showed though was perfect.

I'm not interested in the election at all but hope the Nicky story will be interesting. I think Rebecca knew too and that was the secret she kept.

Edited January 16, 2019 by debraran

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Wow, Kevin was practically peeing on Zoe's leg to everyone in this episode (the lady at the VA, the congressman who Zoe dated).

Randall continues to be selfish. Even when he's apologizing to his family, he has to interrupt NYE and turn off New Year's Rocking Eve to do it. He couldn't even wait until there was a commercial?

I'm not a fan of the Pearson Speeches to Strangers, so I had to laugh when Kate pulled out every tragedy in her life to convince the guy who bought Toby's Star Wars action figures to sell them back to her and he said no anyway. But I did appreciate that Kate realized she had made a huge mistake and she tried to fix it by tracking down who bought them and trying to get them back.

As for the post above that said Kate should have called the kid's mom, Kate said she sold Toby's stuff to students at her college so Gabe was most likely over 18 which means his mom can't do shit about it either. He bought them fair and square. It's not like he broke into her house and stole them.

I know that Kate is getting a lot of the blame for what happened, but realistically if I were selling a huge collection of stuff like that, I (meaning Toby) would have made a list with the approximate worth of each one so that Kate would know how much to ask for them when she sold them. If he had done that, then Kate would have seen nothing in that box was on the list and logically not sold them until she asked him what they were worth which would have prevented the wacky hijinks.

Ugh, OF COURSE Randall won. Now this stupid storyline will never end. Can we at least keep Jae-won around as a consolation prize?

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7 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Of course, Randall sob-stories his way to a blueberry pie.
And Kate sob-stories her way to...nothing! lol (I can't be the only one who cheered Gabe, can I?)

Okay, the stadium was cute and very sweet.

When Kate started crying about the "toys" I was thinking don't fall for it Gabe, please don't fall for it. Then I cheered when he turned around. 

When I saw the stadium I remembered Kate crying earlier in the episode and figured that was why.  I wouldn't want to be married to Toby, but he can be a good guy many times and deserves someone better than Kate.

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I actually thought Randall was overall tolerable this episode (but I was possibly comparing him subconsciously to his siblings which is bound to make him look good) with a big exception when he said “didn’t I stay home and play superdad for the last year?” Oh, you mean when you threw a hissyfit over fruit and quit without so much as discussing it with you amazing wife who immediately stepped up to support you?