Carole Radziwill: She's a Real Princess!

[KungFuBunny]

14 minutes ago, Jel said:

Is the operator standing to the side, pausing, looking pensive and then asking "Are you going to eat the rest of that burger?"

Adam is there? Where?

[film noire]

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I would have liked Bethenny's response to Carole's "Can we be done with Jason yet?"

No mystery there...

Edited August 6, 2018 by film noire

[Jel]

1 minute ago, KungFuBunny said:

Adam is there? Where?

That's who I meant. I shoulda capitalized The Operator.

(Carole's having an existential crisis and Adam's main concern is if there's anything free to be had.)

I will not be quitting my day job to pursue a career in comedy. 

[KungFuBunny]

5 minutes ago, Jel said:

That's who I meant. I shoulda capitalized The Operator.

(Carole's having an existential crisis and Adam's main concern is if there's anything free to be had.)

I will not be quitting my day job to pursue a career in comedy. 

The Vegan is at Carole's apartment watering the plants and boinking Michaela in her bed

[Otherkate]

4 hours ago, Jel said:

I don't have a side really either except underneath it all -- the egos, butt-hurtedness, emotional immaturity and unresolved childhood damage (so way, way underneath) I think they're both good, kind people.

Pollyanna signing off.

No one has ever accused me of being a Pollyanna but I tend to agree with you. I think they both have their issues, but are kind people at their core.

3 hours ago, ryebread said:

I agree with you, rap. I don't think calling Adam an operator was all that. I think Carole has a whole lot of other baggage stored between those be-feathered ears of hers, that got stuck in her craw.

 

Same. I think Bethenny meant Adam is an operator with regards to getting what he wants but doesn't worry about what someone else might need (ie, getting comp'd trips, pretending Baby is a service dog and who cares what that means for anyone else). I think what Carole heard was Adam is an operator JUST LIKE HE WAS AN OPERATOR WHEN HE USED YOU TO GET WHAT HE WANTED YOU OLD HAG. 

I just don't think that's what Bethenny was saying.

I do think Carole has an insecurity about her relationship with Adam and Bethenny triggered it hard with the word operator and all that it implies. It doesn't even mean I think it's true, our insecurities are not always based in reality at all.

Edited August 6, 2018 by Otherkate

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, Jel said:

Life is funny.  Interestingly, Bethenny didn't say anything about that -- gunwas loaded, all she had to do was pull the tweet trigger.  She showed some restraint there.  And unsurprisingly Carole didn't say anything about it either.

I don’t think that ever get mentioned in the news? It basically was someone on a private FBwho noticed it on his INstaStory and posted the screen cap (he deleted it not long after he posted it) and then got posted here so I doubt that she pays that close attention to Adam. 

[jaync]

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I'd talk with my friend but I'd also try to see what motivated it. I like my friends. I try not to lose them over petty stuff.

I still don't see it as a friendship ending remark, not over a guy that was already out the door.

I wish Carole had picked this and not the "he's an operator" remark as her hillside to die on. 

Again, we don't know that the Carole/Beth friendship ended because of Beth's opinion of Adam. Hell, neither Carole nor Beth can seem to pinpoint the exact reason for the demise of their relationship, so I'm not sure how anyone else can purport to know.

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As twisty as Frankel's colon ; )

Heh. Carole finally dislodged herself from Beth's rectum, and the skinnybowels went all to hell.

Edited August 6, 2018 by jaync

[Rap541]

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Hell, neither Carole nor Beth can seem to pinpoint the exact reason for the demise of their relationship, so I'm not sure how anyone else can purport to know.

I looked back over my posts and no where have I said that I know with certainty what went down but since you're making the point that you think I've been claiming that - No. I've just been musing and offering my own opinion based on what the show and various articles and social media areas have presented. I don't 'purport to know', this is all just my opinion. 

[KungFuBunny]

Even when home, Carole is sure to put an edgy outfit together, you never know who (Please let it be Adam!) might drop by.

Have you been wondering what "other things" Carole is busy with?

Here is Carole on her re-upholstered couch Watching Wet Paint Dry

[Mozelle]

That is the life. Being able to have enough money that you don't need to work, that you can chill in your home, wake up after 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock or what have you. Of course, EYE don't have that luxury lol (these student loans won't pay off themselves), but being mad that someone has the means not to work? If Carole's busy includes waking and baking, rolling in between the sheets with Adam or Red Scarf Guy, going to a personal training session then hopping on a plane to visit friends across the country then by all means.

People get really agitated when they know that someone isn't running themselves ragged all in the name "hustling."

[Rap541]

Then, if Carole is so happy doing nothing, does she make the point of mentioning how she'll be returning to journalism?

Don't get me wrong - I see NOTHING wrong in enjoying one's self and not feeling the need to constantly hustle. My plan is to retire before I am forced to and I am well on my way so please don't assume I am mocking the easy breezy lifestyle of being independently wealthy but Carole seems to not be ok with being labeled as a someone who doesn't work.

[ShawnaLanne]

I'd respect Carole a lot more if she'd just cop to not being interested in the hustle anymore. She can travel from friend to friend, she lives in the heart of NYC, and she knows a lot of interesting people. Her apartment looks shoebox sized, but it would be big enough for me. That sounds like my dream life. 

But, much like Sonja, Carole keeps throwing out schemes that are either underwhelming, like her magazine article, or just never materialize, such as her scripted show/movie. So her goodbye notice was not only petty and condenscending, but her stating that she would pursue other opportunities sounds like b.s.

[Mindthinkr]

5 minutes ago, Rap541 said:

but Carole seems to not be ok with being labeled as a someone who doesn't work.

Someone has either put a worm in her ear or she bases her self worth on being productive...Carole sized(teeny weeny)

[Mozelle]

Returning to journalism doesn't have to mean returning to the hustle and bustle of a news room. She may want to write more and/or produce, which are things she can do in between living a slower paced life that may include some or many of the things I listed above already.

What I'm remarking on is the idea that people feel that others need to be in "go" mode all the time. There are folks who thrive off of that then turn around and get bothered that others don't want to be in "go" mode at all hours of the day, minus the hours they sleep. Like, if you actively made a decision to be in a career or field where you constantly are moving about, save your snide remarks about the next person who also made an active career choice that affords them (sorry for the dreaded business lexicon) "work-life balance" lol.

(I may or may not be talking about a friend right now who has made comments here and there over the years about my work lol. But it's, like, girl, you chose a career field that put you hundreds of thousands in school debt for learning and training, and you feel the need to be dismissive about the work that I do because I'm not running myself ragged.)

[OnceSane]

If you've expressed your opinion on the Carole and Bethenny break up, it's time to move on.  The horse is dead, the implements are bloody.

[KungFuBunny]

32 minutes ago, Rap541 said:

Then, if Carole is so happy doing nothing, does she make the point of mentioning how she'll be returning to journalism?

Don't get me wrong - I see NOTHING wrong in enjoying one's self and not feeling the need to constantly hustle. My plan is to retire before I am forced to and I am well on my way so please don't assume I am mocking the easy breezy lifestyle of being independently wealthy but Carole seems to not be ok with being labeled as a someone who doesn't work.

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

[Rap541]

Really? Thats... I'm not even sure how I feel about that....

[WhoaWhoKnew]

11 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

I hope she's really as "cool" as she lets on.

Otherwise, this is just...unfortunate. 

[biakbiak]

17 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

Are they dating now because that video is two years old when he was with Carole.

[biakbiak]

Oops.

Edited August 7, 2018 by biakbiak

[KungFuBunny]

They didn't go public because Carole needed her story line - Adam wants her back, he goes over to her place for coffee everyday.

This is the Union Square Farmer's Market - it is open 4 days a week. They have been spotted there often - together

[BodhiGurl]

17 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

I struggled to get past 30 seconds of this video... oy... :( . 

[biakbiak]

Just now, KungFuBunny said:

They didn't go public because Carole needed her story line - Adam wants her back, he goes over to her place for coffee everyday.

This is the Union Square Farmer's Market - it is open 4 days a week. They have been spotted there often - together

She used to have a hot boyfriend I wonder when they broke up.

[BodhiGurl]

1 minute ago, KungFuBunny said:

They didn't go public because Carole needed her story line - Adam wants her back, he goes over to her place for coffee everyday.

This is the Union Square Farmer's Market - it is open 4 days a week. They have been spotted there often - together

woah... "Boyfriend" for hire? 

[Mozelle]

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

It’s from two years ago.

Yup. Clearly all three are friends now, and Carole and Adam were friends with Mikaela when the two were in their relationship.

[CharlizeCat]

Uh ... WTH was that? That video looked like three hipsters got stoned and decided to play with their food because it sure wasn't a video that explained how to make the dish. If that's all the better that collaboration can muster, it really is for the best that they didn't produce a cookbook. The cheesy porn-like background music didn't help either.

Too bad Carole quit her day job after all. (j/k)

Edited August 7, 2018 by CharlizeCat

[KungFuBunny]

8 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

woah... "Boyfriend" for hire? 

For Carole yes,

[ShawnaLanne]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

 

My initial feeling was profound sadness. Maybe she thinks this makes her look like she doesn't care, but it in fact makes her look pathetic.

[biakbiak]

7 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

My initial feeling was profound sadness. Maybe she thinks this makes her look like she doesn't care, but it in fact makes her look pathetic.

Given that Adam and Carolewere dating in April of 2016 when the video was posted I don’t see what is pathetic about getting a thank you in the video. 

He has been working with Mileala on various projects for years, she used to make sexy salads with him.

Edited August 7, 2018 by biakbiak

[ShawnaLanne]

Just now, biakbiak said:

Given that AdamandCarolw were dating in April of 2016 I don’t see what is pathetic about getting a thank you in the video. 

I would rather burn myself than finance my ex and his next girlfriend's aren't they so cute vanity project. Talk about trying too hard.

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I would rather burn myself than finance my ex and his next girlfriend's aren't they so cute vanity project. Talk about trying too hard.

 Well there is no indication that she financed it which would have been about $15 of produce since Adam owns a lot of cameras and filmed and edited it himself but the point is that the video is not new and he wasn’t her ex when he made it.

Edited August 7, 2018 by biakbiak

[SCS]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Carole produced and financed Adam's cooking video

Adam & Mikaela (his girlfriend)

Carole has no self esteem

 

Looks like bright pink play-doh turds.

[Happy Camper]

Carole leaving the show reminds of Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill lyrics:

"I was feeling part of the scenery
I walked right out of the machinery"

When illusion spin her net
I'm never where I want to be
And liberty she pirouette
When I think that I am free
Watched by empty silhouettes
Who close their eyes but still can see
No one taught them etiquette
I will show another me

Today I don't need a replacement
I'll tell them what the smile on my face meant"

Go Carole.

[Sunnykm]

kinda off topic...and I'm new to posting here...but what happened to the episode post?  I can't find it (I know so lame).

[Mozelle]

6 hours ago, biakbiak said:

 Well there is no indication that she financed it which would have been about $15 of produce since Adam owns a lot of cameras and filmed and edited it himself but the point is that the video is not new and he wasn’t her ex when he made it.

Right. This was posted on YouTube and filmed with whatever camera(s) Adam already owns. What outside financing would Adam need for that? 

[Diane Mars]

Changing subject, but regarding the "Adam is an operator" comment, knowing that Bethenny choses her words carefully, I can imagine that Carole undersood it as in : "You're so stupid ! You were nothing for him, you old woman ! I noticed it, you didn't ! He used/uses you, etc..."

... And that would have put me totally off if I were Carole...
 

[ryebread]

I don't know if Adam was thanking Carole for funding the video as much as he was thanking her for being his partner in that other business they tried to get off the ground. Remember the indoor herb garden? You can see one of the little pods in the video that he snips the herbs off of.

Now if he ever needed funding, it was then. The Kickstarter Program they used to raise money failed to reach its goal.  They needed $60,000 to start the business and they fell short by 25 thousand dollars.

I wonder why more of Carole's A-list friends didn't throw in a couple bucks.

[walnutqueen]

9 hours ago, SCS said:

 

Looks like bright pink play-doh turds.

That were shat out of a torturous colon.

[bagger]

Home sick as a dog and I’m watching Cartagena and I just need to fast forward through carol. She’s just not interesting or likeable to me.

[Ki-in]

As much as I don't particularly care for Carole I don't like the idea of someone being bullied or forced off the show. She might be boring but she has earned her place as HW and as boring as she is she has as much of a "storyline" as any of them (is it reality or do we need a storyline)?

My problem is her attitude of superiority and the fact she LIES!!!  She says (around the 9:30 mark) in Dating Wishes and Cabaret that she met Rori Sassoon (the matchmaker) a few weeks ago but in this article from 2014 they have just met.  Why would she need to lie about something so stupid especially when it's in print? The article also says that Carole has already dated much younger (pre-Adam) and went through a lesbian phase and see through clothing phase). None of that is a bad thing just giving info on the article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/fashion/carole-radziwill-new-novel-the-widows-guide-to-sex-and-dating.html

 

Re Adam and the trip: First, people keep saying Bethenny asked him to PR, I'm pretty sure it was just a weekend trip to Houston. Adam asked for compensation first, then only when told no there would be none he says that he's got a job lined up. Why didn't he say that in the first place? Would he have dumped his client if a better gig came along thus leaving people who were counting on him in the lurch and scrambling to find another chef? Basically he would dump a client if a better offer came along, and that is not a good or professional look.

 

 

Stumbled upon this. (I love John Waters and my boss got to meet him at a conference a couple of weeks ago-jealous!!!)

Edited August 7, 2018 by Ki-in

[HunterHunted]

7 minutes ago, Ki-in said:

My problem is her attitude of superiority and the fact she LIES!!!  She says (around the 9:30 mark) in Dating Wishes and Cabaret that she met Rori Sassoon (the matchmaker) a few weeks ago but in this article from 2014 they have just met.  Why would she need to lie about something so stupid especially when it's in print? The article also says that Carole has already dated much younger (pre-Adam) and went through a lesbian phase and see through clothing phase). None of that is a bad thing just giving info on the article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/fashion/carole-radziwill-new-novel-the-widows-guide-to-sex-and-dating.html

Do we have any proof that Carole ever talked to Rori after that meeting in 2014? Perhaps they never spoke again until 2018. We only have proof that they met once for 5 minutes in 2014. I'm not ready to call Carole a liar based on that. Maybe Carole doesn't remember it. I used to work in politics. Do you know how many people I've chatted with for longer than Carole talked to Rori that I have no recollection of? Or they have no recollection of me. It's actually the reason that I don't have a Facebook page. I'd spend hours with people and they'd think I was a sympathetic line to my representative and would friend me. I would never give a friend an easy line to my rep, but I also rarely remembered who these random individuals were. I got hundreds of requests like this. And even if Carole remembers meeting Rori, why wouldn't she and her producer shorten it to "we just met a few weeks ago" if they hadn't spoken for 4 years instead of the far more narratively cumbersome "We met in 2014, but hadn't spoken for 4 years. We were actually reintroduced a couple of weeks ago."

[Ki-in]

Seeing as how they are mentioned in an article together I do not think it slipped Carole's mind. Sorry, I don't buy it.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Ki-in

[nexxie]

19 hours ago, jaync said:

So, Beth asked Adam a favor because he was still close to Carole, but at the very same time, Beth dissed Adam because he and Carole were no longer close? I don't know...that seems to be quite a bit of pretzel logic in order to explain/excuse away Beth's behavior.

Bethenny doesn’t do anything without a strategy - even pretending to be kind to a hurt Lu or a vomiting Carole was probably about camera time and changing the narrative from the losing-her-shit Bethenny we’ve seen crying and ranting lately.

[Ki-in]

30 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

 And even if Carole remembers meeting Rori, why wouldn't she and her producer shorten it to "we just met a few weeks ago" if they hadn't spoken for 4 years instead of the far more narratively cumbersome "We met in 2014, but hadn't spoken for 4 years. We were actually reintroduced a couple of weeks ago."

Because it's a reality show, it's supposed to be authentic

[ryebread]

38 minutes ago, Ki-in said:

My problem is her attitude of superiority and the fact she LIES!!!  She says (around the 9:30 mark) in Dating Wishes and Cabaret that she met Rori Sassoon (the matchmaker) a few weeks ago but in this article from 2014 they have just met.  Why would she need to lie about something so stupid especially when it's in print? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/fashion/carole-radziwill-new-novel-the-widows-guide-to-sex-and-dating.html

The same reason she lied last winter when she pretended not to know that lavender could be used in food. Blueberry and lavender ice cream? What's that?

She exclaimed, "Lavender is a spray".

However, the summer before, she was quoted in a magazine saying she had lavender honey gelato and a butter sablee for dessert.  Pick a lane.

https://people.com/food/real-housewives-carole-radziwill-food-diary-diet/

That's my major malfunction with her. Or any woman who is smart and purposely acts like a dum dum because she thinks it's cute. Then doubles down with a lie.

[Mozelle]

54 minutes ago, Ki-in said:

Seeing as how they are mentioned in an article together I do not think it slipped Carole's mind. Sorry, I don't buy it.

 

From the NYT piece:

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“They’re geniuses in their professional lives, but in their personal lives they’re disasters,” Ms. Sassoon said.  “They lack the skill set or the time to find the right partner. So that’s what we do.”

“Fascinating,” Ms. Radziwill said. “I’ll call you.”  

But the quizzical look on the author’s face gave a fairly clear indication that she would not.

 

You don't think people hand off cards to Carole often? And that she would remember every single time the person who gave her a business card (especially four years prior and whom the writer of the article makes clear that Carole looked like she wouldn't be keeping in contact)?

20 minutes ago, ryebread said:

The same reason she lied last winter when she pretended not to know that lavender could be used in food. Blueberry and lavender ice cream? What's that?

She exclaimed, "Lavender is a spray".

However, the summer before, she was quoted in a magazine saying she had lavender honey gelato and a butter sablee for dessert.  Pick a lane.

https://people.com/food/real-housewives-carole-radziwill-food-diary-diet/

That's my major malfunction with her. Or any woman who is smart and purposely acts like a dum dum because she thinks it's cute. Then doubles down with a lie.

Yes, and Carole who lives a very short distance from Chinatown acted like she didn't know what dim sum was. And she acted like she didn't know that lavender could be used in food. And she told Aviva that she specifically smoked pink cigarettes because they don't give you cancer. All of that sounds to me like Carole is pulling a leg, particularly of the people who she knew would react all aghast at the idea (Bethenny, she of "Do you get my sweater?! 'Rolling with my snowmies'? Get it! Get it!" and Aviva who acted like she couldn't breathe air without Reid by her side). 

Carole's sense of humor isn't Bethenny's but it's there in different way where I always knew she was being a smart ass who knew she could take the Avivas and Bethennys on a ride because they take themselves too seriously. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Mozelle

[Ki-in]

4 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

From the NYT piece:

You don't think people hand off cards to Carole often? And that she would remember every single time the person who gave her a business card (especially four years prior and whom the writer of the article makes clear that Carole looked like she wouldn't be keeping in contact)?

 

Yes, people probably do hand her cards often. But how many of those people are mentioned by name in an article about them? Especially with a memorable name (Sassoon isn't that common and it is memorable). I don't believe it escaped the famed journalist's mind for a second.

[LilaFowler]

32 minutes ago, ryebread said:

The same reason she lied last winter when she pretended not to know that lavender could be used in food. Blueberry and lavender ice cream? What's that?

She exclaimed, "Lavender is a spray".

However, the summer before, she was quoted in a magazine saying she had lavender honey gelato and a butter sablee for dessert.  Pick a lane.

https://people.com/food/real-housewives-carole-radziwill-food-diary-diet/

That's my major malfunction with her. Or any woman who is smart and purposely acts like a dum dum because she thinks it's cute. Then doubles down with a lie.

God, I love when someone provides receipts for how inauthentic Carole is! Golden post.

[ryebread]

3 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

And she told Aviva that she specifically smoked pink cigarettes because they don't give you cancer.

I can buy that Carole was joking about pink cigarettes not causing cancer. Because nobody can be that stupid. 

[Mozelle]

6 minutes ago, ryebread said:

I can buy that Carole was joking about pink cigarettes not causing cancer. Because nobody can be that stupid. 

Lol. Except for Aviva who reacted with shock and horror. And Bethenny who reacted with shock and horror that Carole (supposedly) had never had dim sum or lavender-flavored foods. Don't the Brits call that "taking the piss"?

Which reminds me of a thought I had last week, I think, that if Carole were English she would probably be received differently. She wouldn't be accused of being "cold" or "emotionless"; she would be said to be practicing that "stiff upper lip" thing the Brits are know for. And her sense of humor would be considered "dry wit" rather than being taken literally at every turn. Lisa Vanderpump gets away with a lot because of her accent and where she's from.