Season 6 Discussion

[arc918]

3 hours ago, Mothra said:

And the thing is, Reading Terminal Market is the kind of place where you can ask for a taste!  For free!!!  Such a shit Eric is.

They could have gone to town on samples of the Amish beef jerky!

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, sconstant said:

Yes.  And then yes again.  (And when we say "try a pretzel" we are talking not about the traditional Philly street cart fare, but a "we JUST made this and buttered it for you" thing which actually made of a slice of cloud mixed with sparkles, manna, and ambrosia, rolled out and then baked.)

You ain't said nothing but a word.

25 minutes ago, Sterling said:

In the spirit of beating a cheesesteak story to death.....

I've been to Reading Terminal many times.  Awesome place!

Let's just say Eric wanted everyone to just have a few bites, to "taste" Philly.  Would it have killed him to hand everyone a napkin and a bottle of water?

And if it's all about just a few bites, why not add a donut (can't remember the name of the amazing donut place), a pretzel, maybe a few more things?

Give a sampling of foods to the table.  

And yeah, bro, bring some plates, some sodas, and forks.

Beiler's. 

Did Colt tell Larissa not to fat-shame his cat?

[KateHearts]

4 hours ago, Lady Iris said:

I was so put off by Kool-Aid just sitting there looking ahead blankly as her father interrogated Asuelo. I mean, at least look like you're invested, hold his hand, cajole your father. She just checked out during that whole conversation.

She did the same thing when the poor guy got emotional and broke down on the beach.  She kind of sat there and looked a little uncomfortable.  In her TH she said, "it breaks my heart to see Asuelu cry," but I didn't see much emotion at all.  I mean, at least take his hand or something.

3 hours ago, Empress1 said:

She may want a pool because it's so damn hot! I would! I've commented on the House Hunters forum that if I had to live in the desert or somewhere where it's hot year-round, I'd want a pool. I'd use it, too - love the water.

When our family members lived in desert Arizona, it was so hot out during the day that you could not go in the pool; you had to wait until the sun went down. Otherwise you'd sear your feet on the pool decking. It was miserable. There are companies out there whose sole purpose is to refill pools because the water in them evaporates so quickly in the dry heat.  

[gonecrackers]

57 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

Did Colt tell Larissa not to fat-shame his cat?

Not sure; she didn't like the cat though because she's fat. She needs to give the poor kitty a break; her name is Cookie Dough for crap's sake.

Edited November 6, 2018 by gonecrackers

[Neurochick]

The reason I don’t buy Auselo’s oh shucks act,mis because years ago, I used to have a boyfriend who’d tell me, “if I ever got you pregnant, I’d Matt you.”  Sounds like a guy who wants to do the right thing huh?  Then I realized that he wanted to marry me because I had a union job with benefits, including free tuition.  

I wonder who suggested Asuelo come to the United States, he or Kalini?

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Forty years ago my cousin went to Israel, lived on a kibbutz and met an Israeli teacher, she kept inviting him for coffee, he kept saying he did not drink coffee, this went on for a few weeks till a buddy of his enlightened him to the Israeli cultural meaning of going out for coffee, he accepted the next time she asked and now they have been married 38 years with kids and grandkids. 

Sometimes you need to be told about the culture you are living in so you can understand how you are percieved.  Larissa probably has no idea that she upset Debbie by not eating the bith phtew.

I don’t believe that. If Debbie came to Brazil and Larissa cooked a meal for Debbie and she abruptly turned her nose up at it, Larissa would be bitching to Colt that Debbie was rude.  Simpler still, Debbie could have outright rejected.the Larissa breakfast special and let Larissa get a taste of what it’s like. Instead she was gracious and ate it without making a face. Common Courtesy...: it doesn’t take a lot of effort. 

I don’t think we’ve been filled in on just what kind of a lifestyle Larissa had in Brazil, she’s 31, so she can’t use immaturity as an excuse for her rudeness. I think she needs to spend some time one on one with Debbie and get to know each other. 

It could be that the lifestyle Larissa is so  unsatisfied with, is only possible due to Debbies contribution. 

[queenjen]

4 hours ago, eatsleep said:

IDK but I think many of those American dishes are available and popular in other countries. 

 

I wouldn't be so sure. In Australia, breakfast burritos are virtually unknown as a breakfast item at home , Mexican food is around but hasn't made it's way into our daily life, except in the most basic of ways (taco kits that no self respecting Mexican would recognise). As for the Cheesesteak? No idea. Never had one, they are not an option in foodcourts in malls etc. Some specialty burger places MIGHT have them, but I'm totally unaware. I still don't know what it is. I THOUGHT because we have a product called 'Philadelphia Cream Cheese' here, a Cheesesteak must be a big lump of this fried and stuck in a breadroll. But the photo circulating fromm 90DF on this board doesn't fit that description? 

Further, in Asian countries,  Indonesia for example, milk is not that common. It's just not used or eaten like it is in the West. The times I've travelled in South East Asia, it's UHT milk if you want a coffee anywhere outside of a major city and by the time I was returning home, the first thing I wanted to eat was a toasted cheese sandwich. In Bali (which is in Indonesia), I stayed in a village for weeks, where the breakfast options were black rice porridge and fruit. This is what Leida is expecting. When she says 'chicken porridge', it's probably made of a sticky rice with chicken bits. And those chicken bits!!! there's never anything I can identify from the chicken. Not saying 'it's not chicken', I'm just saying, they use EVERYTHING.

And I've had some weird food experiences where the cook/chef tries to use CHEESE but just doesn't understand it's properties. I had a crab dish that had cheese melted all over it for lunch one day and that was...different. My brother got stomach issues for days after! As for me, the only dairy I ate in Bali was the occasional iced treat that resembled (branded same) the chocolate coated vanilla ice cream centred treats called "magnums' here in Australia. But there was a subtle difference: they WERE the same brand, but these were made in Indonesia. I DID get sick from this. It was the same time that China got into big trouble for additives in milk formula for babies, some kind of indigestible plastic powder, or something. Vanilla ice cream is made of milk, and i wondered if some of this 'filler' had made it's way into my icecream. Anyway. Dairy doesn't feature in the Indonesian diet as it does in ours.

[Starlight925]

Larissa keeps referring to the Vegas she sees on t.v., and how it just doesn't look like that.

Actually, Vegas looks exactly like it does on t.v.  You have to go out to the places they film on t.v. to see that, but I'd be willing to bet that Colt has never set foot in a nice casino, a great Vegas steakhouse, or seen a wonderful Vegas show.

He should have arranged for a true "Vegas night" within her first week.  Could have started with an afternoon of shopping at Caesar's or Venetian, a spa treatment at Aria, and an evening on the strip, the millions of lights, the casino noise, the fun crowds.

Instead, she's stuck on floor 2 of the most depressing, plainest house, with an obese cat (yes, they do need to put that poor cat on a diet), where mother Debbie Downer made dog food look good next to her beef stew.

Oh, and homes with pools are very rare in Vegas.  10 or so years ago, it was mandated that homes are not even allowed to be built with yards, only pebble/rock landscaping, due to water supply issues.  So pools.....nope, go to the strip.  Oh wait, Colt doesn't realize Vegas has a strip.

Edited November 7, 2018 by Sterling

[queenjen]

3 hours ago, iwasish said:

3 hours ago, sconstant said:

Yes.  And then yes again.  (And when we say "try a pretzel" we are talking not about the traditional Philly street cart fare, but a "we JUST made this and buttered it for you" thing which actually made of a slice of cloud mixed with sparkles, manna, and ambrosia, rolled out and then baked.)

 

But they’d have to share it.

I’m  calling in sick and leaving first thing in the morning and getting me some of those pretzels ....  I might even get extra for Sunday night.. I doubt I’ll sleep a wink thinking about them. 

I'm calling in twisted too, from Australia, and coming to Reading Terminal Market. If Eric can find it, I know I can. 

[lucy711]

Colt's relationship with his mother makes me sad.  It's not healthy, but I kinda get why they are like that considering he is an only child and his father died.  My mother passed when I was in college.  I am an only child as well, and it killed me when I moved out shortly after (I went to live with my fiancee- now husband- and he couldn't afford the place on his own).  I beat myself up over it and wondered if I did the right thing.  In the end it was all fine, but I was very upset that my father "lost" (in a way) his daughter so soon after he lost his wife.  If I hadn't been engaged, I might have stayed home longer than would be healthy, leading to the two of us becoming dependent.  Happily, he remarried a few years ago!  I think Colt's mother needs some therapy, and hopefully Larissa will have a softer touch than we have seen.

[Morgalisa]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:23 PM, Toaster Strudel said:

YES!!! You can see the gradual shift from fantasy to reality to responsibility on her face.

Yes, but then she thinks about the D and she's drawn back in again. There will come a time when the D is not sufficient.

[Morgalisa]

Shag, marry, kill: Eric, Colt, Jay.

Alternate: Jonathan

[Mainer]

Colt is like Norman Bates he will keep his mother and also listen to her long after she dies...

 

i wonder if colt told Larissa what he has in his savings account, which I’d bet is ALOT, that’s why she says she wants a different house with a pool and flowers, what he probably failed to mention is it doesn’t matter what he has for money cause he’s to cheap to spend any of it

 

the cultural difference between all the couples is obvious but auselo ans kalani are extreme it’s like he popped out of living like they did in biblical times, poor guy it’s gonna be very hard to adjust let alone her famiy being so hateful! 

Edited November 7, 2018 by Mainer

[Neurochick]

Is Colt an only child?  Was that mentioned on the show?

[queenjen]

37 minutes ago, Morgalisa said:

Shag, marry, kill: Eric, Colt, Jay.

Alternate: Jonathan

Shag: Jay (with a vaginal dam)

Marry: Coltee (as a poster above noted, he has the 'bones' for a potential husband if he's whipped into shape. Larissa needs to stage a coup, topple Mother and install herself in this role)

Kill: Eric (no brainer, right?)

Alternate: Jonathong, he and Jay were contenders for Shag, but my gaydar goes off with Jonathong and if this is so, I would suspect performance issues. No one needs that. 

[Kangatush]

2 hours ago, queenjen said:

I wouldn't be so sure. In Australia, breakfast burritos are virtually unknown as a breakfast item at home , Mexican food is around but hasn't made it's way into our daily life, except in the most basic of ways (taco kits that no self respecting Mexican would recognise). As for the Cheesesteak? No idea. Never had one, they are not an option in foodcourts in malls etc. Some specialty burger places MIGHT have them, but I'm totally unaware. I still don't know what it is. I THOUGHT because we have a product called 'Philadelphia Cream Cheese' here, a Cheesesteak must be a big lump of this fried and stuck in a breadroll. But the photo circulating fromm 90DF on this board doesn't fit that description? 

 

A cheesesteak is generally called a steak and cheese sandwich when not in Philly.  It is very thinly shaved steak cooked, covered in cheese, and put into a long thin bread roll.  Sometimes sauteed onion, peppers, and/or mushrooms are added.  Very tasty, but messy to eat.

"Burrito" has become a catch all word for anything wrapped in a tortilla.  What Eric made wouldn't register with actual Mexicans either.  His version was just scrambled eggs, bacon, and sausage stuffed in a tortilla.  Or a standard breakfast made portable.

[sconstant]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I stay at the Marriott across the street about 8 times a year, I park my car and leave it until I have to drive home, walking in the city is great, lot's of things to see and do in every area of the city.  Eric was too lazy to research anything I am sure.  The Franklin Institute would have a been a great place to let the little run around and burn some energy for the ride back to where ever Wisconsin.

Probably there’s also filming permits that are hard to get for filming at some outdoor locations.  RTM is has a management company so you can just get their permission and that’s the end of it. 

[CoachWristletJen]

Maybe I'm just cold, but I didn't feel sorry for Debbie. I saw her as responsible for basically stunting her son's emotional growth and keeping him tied to her apron strings. She was selfish and the relationship that she had with her son was downright creepy. Sure, a mom feels wistful when her kid gets older and doesn't need her so much, but it's her responsibility to LET GO OF HIM WITHOUT LEAVING CLAW MARKS! Instead, Debbie is clinging tight and her tears show that she is thinking about herself. Well, okay, she probably feels bad that her son chose a gold digger who is using him for a green card, basically one of the porn images on his computer screen come to life. But, he doesn't know any better. And, I think mostly, at this point, she's just crying because she's no longer his number one, and she's trying every feeble manipulative tactic she can think of to get her boy's attention. So, do I feel sorry for this soggy mess? No. Pity is the last thing she needs. She needs a pottery class or something.

[Spike]

Why do Cole and Debbie have a fireplace in Vegas?

[iwasish]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

Why do Cole and Debbie have a fireplace in Vegas?

I think temperatures drop sharply at night in the desert. My sister lived in Fallon NV for several years and they had a chimneria on their screened porch to take the chill out of the night air while we sat around and chatted at night.

[Morgalisa]

In Texas a lot of houses and apartments have fireplaces that get used maybe once or twice a year. Sometimes people have a fire going with the windows open to cool.

[StatisticalOutlier]

6 hours ago, Matty said:

Who doesn't have air conditioning in their car in Las Vegas?

And I noticed in this episode that Colt had his window up.  Yes, it's loud and annoying to drive in heavy or fast traffic with the windows down, but given a choice between that and dying of heat stroke, a sensible person takes the noise and wind.

He must really be used to the heat.

[endure]

On 2018-11-05 at 2:24 AM, endure said:

Asuelu these people, they’re not like you, please go back to Samwa and stay your happy loving self. But now you are bonding with your son, you may need to take Kalani and your baby boy back with you. Get away from her delusional sister she thinks she’s the baby’s Daddy and your father in law is threatening  you, please don’t stay here.

Maybe i was a bit hasty here, last night i read a bit of an explanation from Kalani regarding her father that I wasnt aware of. He is Samoan and originally from there himself!  She had mentioned that her father wanted his girls to marry white men, apparently not Samoans, as Samoan men put themselves in a higher position in life than their women and he didn’t want that for his daughters.  I think that is why he stressed to Asuelo that he must always respect her or he would be hearing about it or something to that effect. https://www.romper.com/p/who-is-kalanis-dad-from-90-day-fiance-hes-in-hot-water-for-offensive-comments-13084639

Edited November 7, 2018 by endure

[politichick]

13 hours ago, Mainer said:

Colt is like Norman Bates he will keep his mother and also listen to her long after she dies...

 

i wonder if colt told Larissa what he has in his savings account, which I’d bet is ALOT, that’s why she says she wants a different house with a pool and flowers, what he probably failed to mention is it doesn’t matter what he has for money cause he’s to cheap to spend any of it

 

the cultural difference between all the couples is obvious but auselo ans kalani are extreme it’s like he popped out of living like they did in biblical times, poor guy it’s gonna be very hard to adjust let alone her famiy being so hateful! 

I'm betting Colt's savings account is huge, too, because, as everyone agrees, he is cheap as fuck. And yes, Asuelo is like he was living in biblical times, LOL!!!

[DaphneCat]

19 hours ago, Mothra said:

Couldn't find "avionics mechanic," but avionics technician in Baraboo WI average salary is $55,270. https://www.sokanu.com/careers/avionics-technician/salary/wisconsin/#how-much

This is a decent salary for small town Wisconsin.  Not saying he's rich (he is paying child support - but only for one child) but he is not exactly living in poverty.  I could be VERY wrong, but I suspect he doesn't actually "need" the rent money from his daughter.  He strikes me as one of those who feels that once his kids are 18 and out of high school they are adults.  No more parental support.  Therefore, if you live with me, you pay rent like anyone else would.  As I said, I could be wrong, but to simply tell your kid to move out implies a bit of "you're on your own."

[funky-rat]

17 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I think she's just flat out rude.  I don't think it's a cultural thing at all.  Of course, there's a lot in that sitch to be rude about, but in my view she was rude.  I agree with your comments on Debbie; she is obviously not mentally all there, but I did feel sorry for her too.  She basically knows the score with that relationship.  I think she hoped Larissa would arrive and she'd be something other than what she suspected -- a woman out of her son's league using him for a green card.  And then Larissa opens her mouth and it's clear that she's going to either use her son or break his heart.  Then she hurt Debbie's feelings in the process.

I'm not sure.  She's so much like my husband's jackass ex-boss, also from Brazil, that it's scary.  I blamed some of his boss's assholery on the fact that he's just an asshole, but some of it I do believe was cultural, and it just makes for a shit-storm of douchebaggery, and mental abuse.

16 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Did Colt tell Larissa not to fat-shame his cat?

Yep.  She was mean to poor Cookie Dough.  :'(

15 hours ago, queenjen said:

 As for the Cheesesteak? No idea. Never had one, they are not an option in foodcourts in malls etc. Some specialty burger places MIGHT have them, but I'm totally unaware. I still don't know what it is. I THOUGHT because we have a product called 'Philadelphia Cream Cheese' here, a Cheesesteak must be a big lump of this fried and stuck in a breadroll. But the photo circulating fromm 90DF on this board doesn't fit that description? 

Invented in Philadelphia, it's thinly sliced or shaved/chipped steak meat fried on a flat-top grill, topped with cheese (either liquid or regular - I don't like the liquid), and served in an Italian hoagie roll.  You can often add marianara sauce, sautéed onions, peppers, and mushrooms (I like mine with sautéed onions, and occasionally sauce, if I know it's good sauce).  Some people do them "garden style", with mayo, raw onion, tomato, and lettuce (I can't stand garden steaks - blech).  The juice from the steak makes the inside of the bun soft, and it's pure heaven if it's done correctly.

[Pepper Mostly]

9 hours ago, endure said:

Maybe i was a bit hasty here, last night i read a bit of an explanation from Kalani regarding her father that I wasnt aware of. He is Samoan and originally from there himself!  She had mentioned that her father wanted his girls to marry white men, apparently not Samoans, as Samoan men put themselves in a higher position in life than their women and he didn’t want that for his daughters.  I think that is why he stressed to Asuelo that he must always respect her or he would be hearing about it or something to that effect. https://www.romper.com/p/who-is-kalanis-dad-from-90-day-fiance-hes-in-hot-water-for-offensive-comments-13084639

I do not buy Kalani's damage control for one solitary second. Papa Kalani's actions showed that he considers himself the superior of his wife and daughters, no one dared to make a peep when he was verbally abusing Asuelu.  Daddy dearest doesn't want his daughters out from under his thumb. He wants control over who they see, what they do, and when (and if) they marry at all. I'm sure Kalani is the one chosen to remain at home and care for her parents as they age. Kolini is mad because if Kalani gets married and leaves the family home, she'll have to be the caretaker.

[Raja]

8 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

This is a decent salary for small town Wisconsin.  Not saying he's rich (he is paying child support - but only for one child) but he is not exactly living in poverty.  I could be VERY wrong, but I suspect he doesn't actually "need" the rent money from his daughter.  He strikes me as one of those who feels that once his kids are 18 and out of high school they are adults.  No more parental support.  Therefore, if you live with me, you pay rent like anyone else would.  As I said, I could be wrong, but to simply tell your kid to move out implies a bit of "you're on your own."

I agree, he probably said I was at boot camp when I was your age 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

On 11/5/2018 at 11:22 PM, Stacee said:

And guess what she'd spell out for the bathroom. 

[Drogo]

39 minutes ago, funky-rat said:

Invented in Philadelphia, it's thinly sliced or shaved/chipped steak meat fried on a flat-top grill, topped with cheese (either liquid or regular - I don't like the liquid), and served in an Italian hoagie roll.  You can often add marianara sauce, sautéed onions, peppers, and mushrooms (I like mine with sautéed onions, and occasionally sauce, if I know it's good sauce).  Some people do them "garden style", with mayo, raw onion, tomato, and lettuce (I can't stand garden steaks - blech).  The juice from the steak makes the inside of the bun soft, and it's pure heaven if it's done correctly.

IMO, they're better at the Jersey Shore than they are in Philadelphia now. 

[eatsleep]

17 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I think she's just flat out rude.  I don't think it's a cultural thing at all.  Of course, there's a lot in that sitch to be rude about, but in my view she was rude.  I agree with your comments on Debbie; she is obviously not mentally all there, but I did feel sorry for her too.  She basically knows the score with that relationship.  I think she hoped Larissa would arrive and she'd be something other than what she suspected -- a woman out of her son's league using him for a green card.  And then Larissa opens her mouth and it's clear that she's going to either use her son or break his heart.  Then she hurt Debbie's feelings in the process.

But what reason would anyone have for being deliberately rude to her future MIL upon their first meeting? Surely even a calculating whore (not saying she is!) would know to play her role at least for the 90 days, right? I'm trying to recall if other foreign fiancees on the show had ever been rude to their American inlaws. I do recall Paola parading around in skimpy lingerie in Russ's parents' house. But that's all I remember. 

 

15 hours ago, queenjen said:

Further, in Asian countries,  Indonesia for example, milk is not that common. It's just not used or eaten like it is in the West. The times I've travelled in South East Asia, it's UHT milk if you want a coffee anywhere outside of a major city and by the time I was returning home, the first thing I wanted to eat was a toasted cheese sandwich.

Ohhh but they do wonders w/ that powdered and condensed milk (if that's what you mean by UHT) in their coffee! I love Indonesian and Thai and Vietnamese coffee! Esp iced.

 

13 hours ago, Kangatush said:

A cheesesteak is generally called a steak and cheese sandwich when not in Philly.  It is very thinly shaved steak cooked, covered in cheese, and put into a long thin bread roll.  Sometimes sauteed onion, peppers, and/or mushrooms are added.  Very tasty, but messy to eat.

"Burrito" has become a catch all word for anything wrapped in a tortilla.  What Eric made wouldn't register with actual Mexicans either.  His version was just scrambled eggs, bacon, and sausage stuffed in a tortilla.  Or a standard breakfast made portable.

This is exactly what I was going to say. They're just local names for pretty common stuff that many people eat. But the raw unhatched chick!??? Would most people the world over eat that? IDK. I personally liked escargot...when I was a flesh eater. So I could not relate to Angela's objection. Unless the specific snail she got was gross in some way. The roasted pig carcass and the chicken feet mehhh

[funky-rat]

45 minutes ago, Drogo said:

IMO, they're better at the Jersey Shore than they are in Philadelphia now. 

I haven't been down the shore since the late 90's.  I love Wildwood by day, but by night?  Nope.  And I'm not big on Ocean City at any time.  Too many drunk idiots.  It's not as bad in the off-season, but half the stuff isn't open.  Loved Asbury Park as a kid, but all of the stuff I loved is gone (The Palace, The Casino, etc).

[StatisticalOutlier]

18 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

Ohhh but they do wonders w/ that powdered and condensed milk (if that's what you mean by UHT) in their coffee! I love Indonesian and Thai and Vietnamese coffee! Esp iced.

UHT is short for ultra-high temperature, and is pasteurization at very high temperatures.  The form factor is the same as regular milk, not powdered and/or condensed. 

UHT is how they have milk sitting on the shelf, that doesn't need to be refrigerated until it's opened.  Or sometimes they have UHT milk in the refrigerator section, and it has a much longer use-by date that regular milk.  Some people can taste when milk is UHT and don't like it, but among the refrigerated (not boxes on the shelf) ones, I can't tell a difference.

Edited November 7, 2018 by StatisticalOutlier

[Lusterleaf]

If Leida was living like a princess in Indonesia, she should have stayed where she was. You know a guy is cheap when he has 4 people split one sandwich.

I felt bad for Asuelu.

[doyouevengohere]

The sisters cognac kardashian should marry each other.   One wants to be her sister's baby's dad for gosh sakes!  Unless Kolanimolani stands by her man, there will be no more men willing to compete with her sister.

 

I really don't think Larrisa was that rude at all.  I was expecting worse and it will probably escalate to that.  But, the first meeting , I thought she was nice to Debbie- they hugged, she did complain but said it was okay now that she was with Colt and mom.  I didn't get the impression that she jilted the beef stew to be rude.  Unless there was more that happened off camera , it was nothing for Debbie to cry about.  I will say she was rude about the house right off the bat, but I'm sorta on her side in the vein that you shouldn't live in such tight quarters with your in-laws when you first marry.  Debbie is an adult and should have realized that - I mean these people have to have some sort of inkling about common sense stuff and she doesn't seem as stupid as Nicole or Angela.

[PamelaMaeSnap]

On 11/5/2018 at 7:44 AM, Cementhead said:

 

Deleting (poorly, obviously) because everyone else had much better and more informative things to say about Reading Terminal Market and Philly cheesesteaks in general than I did. But damn, just looking at the closeup of that cheesesteak made me cry (am on a diet and was nibbling on my carrot sticks while watching). 

Edited November 7, 2018 by PamelaMaeSnap

[firefly]

Kalani may have all of us on a technicality. It may have been her Samoan virginity that she lost. Her belief may be that she has virginity on each continent. For example, if she never goes to Antarctica she will always her have Antarctican virginity intact.

[Granny58]

18 hours ago, queenjen said:

As for the Cheesesteak? No idea.

 

18 hours ago, queenjen said:

some kind of indigestible plastic powder, or something.

I think it was melamine. 

Edited November 7, 2018 by Granny58
nobody needs my thoughts on what a cheesesteak is. I see now it's been covered.

[Granny58]

17 hours ago, Morgalisa said:

Shag, marry, kill: 

Dolt (if he lost weight and grew the beard as he does look nice in some pictures), Asuelo, Leida.

[eatsleep]

15 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Maybe I'm just cold, but I didn't feel sorry for Debbie. I saw her as responsible for basically stunting her son's emotional growth and keeping him tied to her apron strings. She was selfish and the relationship that she had with her son was downright creepy. Sure, a mom feels wistful when her kid gets older and doesn't need her so much, but it's her responsibility to LET GO OF HIM WITHOUT LEAVING CLAW MARKS! Instead, Debbie is clinging tight and her tears show that she is thinking about herself. Well, okay, she probably feels bad that her son chose a gold digger who is using him for a green card, basically one of the porn images on his computer screen come to life. But, he doesn't know any better. And, I think mostly, at this point, she's just crying because she's no longer his number one, and she's trying every feeble manipulative tactic she can think of to get her boy's attention. So, do I feel sorry for this soggy mess? No. Pity is the last thing she needs. She needs a pottery class or something.

And isn't it really a parent's job to teach our kids discernment? Maybe she is crying from guilt, watching her son walk, obliviously, into a boobie trap and while she does nothing to rein him in?

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, funky-rat said:

And I'm not big on Ocean City at any time

It is not what it used to be, I steer clear and go to Bethany or Dewey in DE or Avalon in NJ.  

[iwasish]

3 hours ago, Raja said:

I agree, he probably said I was at boot camp when I was your age 

I only disagree due to the fact that he and the daughter were living there together splitting expenses and he pulls the rug out from under her to bring in a GF and HER kid. And the GF isn’t going to contribute to expenses. I wonder if he’d be understanding if the daughter came home and told him she was moving in with her BF and he had to carry the rent on his own. 

[funky-rat]

27 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

 watching her son walk, obliviously, into a boobie trap 

I see what you did there.

[doyouevengohere]

Maybe they are renting for the show; like family Chantel....... There was really nothing personal in the house; it did not look lived in like a family home.

[iwasish]

Looks like Colt and Debbie rented that house in Aug of 2017. So could be truth in what Debbie said about waiting to decorate so that Larissa could pick things out, 

 

i admit I have a soft spot for Debbie, I think her life with Colt is boring and stagnant. But it’s a rut they fell into when the dad died and neither wants to hurt the other. I do think Colt told Debbie a lot of things about Larissa and Debbie was expecting this sweet, quiet girl. In rolls Larissa with her complaints and criticisms and plans to make changes. Debbies dream of a sweet demure respectful daughter in law that she could bond with and   maybe have some fun with(possibly some grandkids would  come along) is shattered. Debbie is scared that she will find herself alone and forgotten.

Between Debbie and Larissa, I just find Debbie more sympathetic. Larissa has 90 days to decide if she wants to live in hot, barren, ugly Las Vegas, in a too small house with 2 cats and her mother in law and drive around in a car with  no A/C. Or go back to Brazil and start over again. Her third option is to make amends and start over with Debbie (and Colt, I don’t think he appreciates the nonstop complaining).

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, doyouevengohere said:

Maybe they are renting for the show; like family Chantel....... There was really nothing personal in the house; it did not look lived in like a family home.

I thought that immediately, beige walls, no pictures on the walls and you know there has to be a 16x20 Sears portrait of Mother Coltee and Coltee with a mullet from the 80's.  

Mother Coltee is probably paying most of the rent with her Social Security check because she wanted Coltee to save his money to buy a woman.

Just wondering, since there were snowmen in the living room, is it even the holiday season?

[Snewtsie]

20 hours ago, Sterling said:

Larissa keeps referring to the Vegas she sees on t.v., and how it just doesn't look like that.

Actually, Vegas looks exactly like it does on t.v.  You have to go out to the places they film on t.v. to see that, but I'd be willing to bet that Colt has never set foot in a nice casino, a great Vegas steakhouse, or seen a wonderful Vegas show.

He should have arranged for a true "Vegas night" within her first week.  Could have started with an afternoon of shopping at Caesar's or Venetian, a spa treatment at Aria, and an evening on the strip, the millions of lights, the casino noise, the fun crowds.

Instead, she's stuck on floor 2 of the most depressing, plainest house, with an obese cat (yes, they do need to put that poor cat on a diet), where mother Debbie Downer made dog food look good next to her beef stew.

Oh, and homes with pools are very rare in Vegas.  10 or so years ago, it was mandated that homes are not even allowed to be built with yards, only pebble/rock landscaping, due to water supply issues.  So pools.....nope, go to the strip.  Oh wait, Colt doesn't realize Vegas has a strip.

I soooo agree with this- he really should have driven on the strip as a way to welcome her to Vegas.  There is so much to see, and I quick drive past the huge properties would have been a great teaser for a future evening out on the town, where they could walk through the casinos and hotel lobbies on foot.  I'd stay away from shopping, though, because we all know he would not buy her a damn thing and those malls you mention have some incredibly pricey designer stores.

That's good info on Vegas homes, but Vegas does have an expansive amount of homes with pools- maybe not built in the last 10 years (I hadn't known about that mandate, but I'm trusting you know this topic well).  I love all the mid-century modern neighborhoods that are in Vegas, and many do have pools.  And plus, even if homes don't have individual pools, wouldn't many of them be built in areas which have a community pool?  I would have to believe Dolt's home is in one of these communities (it looked similar to a neighborhood my friend lived in, located in Summerlin).... no?

[Spisee Hotsos]

17 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Maybe I'm just cold, but I didn't feel sorry for Debbie. I saw her as responsible for basically stunting her son's emotional growth and keeping him tied to her apron strings. She was selfish and the relationship that she had with her son was downright creepy. Sure, a mom feels wistful when her kid gets older and doesn't need her so much, but it's her responsibility to LET GO OF HIM WITHOUT LEAVING CLAW MARKS! Instead, Debbie is clinging tight and her tears show that she is thinking about herself. Well, okay, she probably feels bad that her son chose a gold digger who is using him for a green card, basically one of the porn images on his computer screen come to life. But, he doesn't know any better. And, I think mostly, at this point, she's just crying because she's no longer his number one, and she's trying every feeble manipulative tactic she can think of to get her boy's attention. So, do I feel sorry for this soggy mess? No. Pity is the last thing she needs. She needs a pottery class or something.

I see what you mean, but I also think what Debbie did was out of love. She probably didn't realize that her babying and smothering would result in, well, Colt. I would love to know if he's an only child and what her experience was with pregnancies/other children during her lifetime. Usually codependent behaviour like that does not exist in a vacuum.

For example, their situation reminds me a bit of my grandmother and her only child, my uncle. She married my grandfather when she was in her 30s, and lost pregnancies prior to my uncle's birth. She spoiled him terribly, gave him zero responsibility and overfed him to the point that their family doctor told her to stop or she would handicap him for life. He grew into a socially stunted adult who basically lived at home and barely worked until he was 35. He then smartened up, learned a trade and moved away. He's never had a long-term relationship and has no children. He's a wonderful uncle and has been really good to me over the years, and does not have any of the apparent anger issues Colt seems to have, but I do see shades of a similar situation with he and Debbie. I have a feeling there's a lot of difficult history there.

Colt strikes me as a classic basement dweller. You know; the nerd who spent all his time after school and on weekends in his hovel playing endless hours of video or computer games, not interacting with others, never doing anything physically demanding. The kind of kid whose parents needed to kick his butt outside once in a while and have some rules, chores and expectations for him but for whatever reason just don't, and that kid grows into an adult with poor work ethic, poor character and next to no life skills.

Edited November 7, 2018 by Saje81

[Mothra]

6 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

This is a decent salary for small town Wisconsin.  Not saying he's rich (he is paying child support - but only for one child) but he is not exactly living in poverty.  I could be VERY wrong, but I suspect he doesn't actually "need" the rent money from his daughter.  He strikes me as one of those who feels that once his kids are 18 and out of high school they are adults.  No more parental support.  Therefore, if you live with me, you pay rent like anyone else would.  As I said, I could be wrong, but to simply tell your kid to move out implies a bit of "you're on your own."

I think you might be right about where they live and his salary.  He's ex-military, too, isn't he?  Does he have a pension or other benefits like health care coverage?  I'm not so sure about his not needing his daughter to help with expenses, though.  I think if he didn't need her paying half, he would have moved her out a long time ago.  Plus he is not as forceful as I think he might be about her getting out before his new family gets there (he must know his daughter's presence is really going to upset Leida).  Her share might not be absolutely necessary to his keeping the apartment, but I'm sure it makes a big positive difference in his cash flow.

[StatisticalOutlier]

2 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Maybe they are renting for the show; like family Chantel....... There was really nothing personal in the house; it did not look lived in like a family home.

I disagree.  To me, nothing says family home like a slot machine in the dining room.

 

26 minutes ago, Snewtsie said:

I soooo agree with this- he really should have driven on the strip as a way to welcome her to Vegas.  There is so much to see, and I quick drive past the huge properties would have been a great teaser for a future evening out on the town, where they could walk through the casinos and hotel lobbies on foot. 

When they were at the Las Vegas sign, he said something about how she'd been in town for three hours; I don't remember how he put it, but I didn't get the impression that he meant she'd spent 3 hours in customs at the airport.  And the Las Vegas sign is right by the airport--you can even see planes sitting there across the street, and I thought, "It took you three hours to get to the sign from the airport?"

So I wonder if they DID drive around, maybe even down the strip, and they didn't show it.

 

2 minutes ago, Mothra said:

I think you might be right about where they live and his salary.  He's ex-military, too, isn't he?  Does he have a pension or other benefits like health care coverage? 

You have to have at least 20 years of service to retire from the military, and he's only 40.  He could have 20 years of military service under his belt, but he would have had to hustle.