S10.E22: Reunion Part 3

[dosodog]

2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

That Skinnygirl as a brand is kinda over? I wholeheartedly agree!

I used to think Skinny Girl Margaritas didn't exist.  I stopped expressing that because it seemed to irritate people and then they'd send me links on where to find it.

Well.  It does exist!  At my local QFC!

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by dosodog
Hint.....it's by the coffee liqueur.

[ShawnaLanne]

12 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

I still find it interesting that the only NY Housewives that Bethenny hasn't had issues with/fallen out with are Aviva and Cindy.

The only two that weren't on the show when she was.

Hmmmmm...

I'd like you to name two housewives from any franchise who have been on more than three seasons, who don't have the same track record.

The same can be said of Carole for that matter. The only person she hasn't beefed with is Heather and weren't they only together two seasons?

Edited September 6, 2018 by ShawnaLanne

[UsernameFatigue]

On 05/09/2018 at 6:00 PM, Gem 10 said:

Carole needs a new hair stylist.  She looks like Sir Lancelot.

OMG, I had compared Carole's look to a shrunken apple head doll, but yours works too. Her dress does look like a suit of armor. 

I love that Carole kept insisting that she only went after Beth in her blogs after she saw the season air, but they kept cutting to Carole being nasty about Beth during the season. The only truthful thing Carole said during the whole reunion was that only 2 people read her blog. 

Watching the part again of Tins jumping off the couch, I am back to hearing her tell Carole "Take your hands off me!" But regardless, whether she said that or "What is wrong with me?", Carole comes off looking like the bitch she is. 

Interesting that Beth is fine with all the women other than Carole. Kind of negates the narrative that Beth doesn't get along with anyone. Ramona in part one of the reunion backed down and admitted that she and Beth are somewhat alike. Beth and Sonja are fine, and Sonja even thanked Beth for talking to her about her drinking. We know that Lu and Beth are fine as Beth was part of the intervention team that got Lu back into rehab. Beth was very nice to Tins when she talked about her frozen eggs, even saying that she understood that Tins viewed them as what might be. Dorinda was in tears over Beth apologizing for calling her a drunk, to the point of needing to hug her. Heck, Beth was even nice to Bitch Carol when she commented that at least Carole finished the marathon when Carole said she thought she finished last. 

Then there is Carole. She humiliated Tinsley in an effort to once again be Fight Right Carole where Beth is concerned. No regard at all for Tins' feelings. The Dream Team deserted her. Ramona told her that she doesn't see how she looks. Dorinda deserted her by dissolving into tears and hugging Bethenny. Sonja doesn't care about Carole one way or the other. Or I imagine Lu, after she would have seen Carole's glee at her downfall. 

I would imagine all the other women at this point are yelling "Booya, Bitch" to Carole too. And "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." I know I am. 

Edited September 7, 2018 by UsernameFatigue

[poeticlicensed]

28 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Amen.  That was exhausting.

I may have nightmares about Ramona’s face and whatever was happening there.  The Moanerbot hit a glitch?

Of course she had to get up and stretch bec of a cramp.  Just a coincidence that no one was paying any attention to her before she did it.

Super minority opinion, apparently, but I really liked Carole’s dress.  Not the ankle sock weirdness or the rest of her look, but just the dress.

I liked Carole's dress too. I'm a sucker for a dress with good vertical lines and I like tea length. It looks classy. Beth looked ridic in her pretty pretty princess dress by contrast

[DelicateDee]

2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

I wonder if you could bake 'em in like chocolate chips?

Just like Bethenny lied last week about the amount of texts she sent Carole?

B claimed one, Carole proved otherwise.

When Bethenny claimed one text, she was referring to one thread of texts, going back and forth. 

And am I the only one who keeps wondering just what kind of bruise Ramoana has on her cheek, the one she didn't want facing the camera (as If it's not on full display anyway)?  It looks dented.  How do you dent your cheekbone?   

[RedDelicious]

20 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Lastly, with Beth's incredible resume, why does she feel the need to be on a reality shit show.

If Bethenny is so accomplished and so influential, she shouldn't need the exposure, right? Besides, where DOES she even find the time? Her products are terrible. Sonja's clappy hands over the SG jeans was so childish. 

[ShawnaLanne]

5 minutes ago, DelicateDee said:

When Bethenny claimed one text, she was referring to one thread of texts, going back and forth. 

And am I the only one who keeps wondering just what kind of bruise Ramoana has on her cheek, the one she didn't want facing the camera (as If it's not on full display anyway)?  It looks dented.  How do you dent your cheekbone?   

Maybe that's why her pupils we're so wonky.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Good grief, Bethenny's repeating "narrative" was annoying & obnoxious -- whether you hate Carole's guts or not.  It was really snotty.  And man, her self-importance now -- especially when she bragged about her renovations?  You know, it reminded me of when she first met Kelly & she wise-cracked that Kelly was Madonna.  Guess we can say that about Bethenny now, eh?  Bitch thinks she's Madonna.

[diadochokinesis]

2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

And there it is.

Carole just said that she was done with Beth after she saw all the confessional interviews.

Beth did have a particularly nasty streak running through her talking heads this year. I'm betting the others aren't particularly happy with the things she said.

But they don’t see the confessionals until they see the edited show. So, it doesn’t explain why she was acting so horrible to Bethenny in the moment during the season. She is just lying. 

2 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Carole has shown she has a tenuous relationship with facts and truth. Even when seeing it with her own eyes. She even denied the texts. She's insane.

She is a great example of how a person sees what they want to see. She has a narrative in her mind and will distort everything to fit that narrative. Which actually makes me question her effectiveness as a journalist. Journalists are supposed to be objective and truthfully tell a story despite their personal beliefs and feelings. She can’t manage that. 

1 hour ago, whydoievencare said:

Really, I don't think Carole tried (with Bethenny).  She was busy crapping on her all season.  

She didn’t. She didn’t try at all. She was done before the season started filming but her behavior got worse as the season progressed. 

46 minutes ago, ryebread said:

That might have been the most entertaining part of the night for me. Carole trying with all her might, to make her voice quiver, and squeeze out a tear.  She only did that because everyone else, over the course of this three-parter, had moments of forgiveness and self-reflection. And Carole had...bitterness. She made Dorinda look warm, by comparison.

I think it was also because Andy called her out on saying he was full of shit. 

35 minutes ago, VioletHues said:

I think Tinsley's eyes were watering during the first part of that whole bit with Carole. Ugly. Ugly.

I felt bad for Tins during that. She really valued her friendship with Carole and thought there was something there. Carole says that she is a ride or die friend but dude, she tossed Tins aside in her attempts to portray B as a liar. Tins is a friend when it behooves Carole. 

[Rosiejuliemom]

10 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I'd like you to name two housewives from any franchise who have been on more than three seasons, who don't have the same track record.

The same can be said of Carole for that matter. The only person she hasn't beefed with is Heather and weren't they only together two seasons?

Heather and Carole were together for three seasons.

Lu and Kelly never beefed that much.

Moaner and Sonja squabble but their issues never last very long.

Jill and Kelly got along pretty well.

I don't recall Carole and Sonja ever really fighting.

Kristen was only on for two seasons, but she never had huge disagreements with Dorinda, Carole, or Sonja.

Other franchises? Cynthia and Kandi have always been friendly. Kandi has also never had big problems with Kenya or Sheree.

2 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Bitch thinks she's Madonna.

So that's why Sonja likes her so much!

[SCS]

1 hour ago, DelicateDee said:

 

And am I the only one who keeps wondering just what kind of bruise Ramoana has on her cheek, the one she didn't want facing the camera (as If it's not on full display anyway)?  It looks dented.  How do you dent your cheekbone?   

 Remember when she showed up for a Reunion with a tomato-red face because she'd had a peel or something and hadn't healed as quickly as she thought she would? Maybe this time it's Injections or filler gone wrong.

 

[howiveaddict]

2 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Ramona cramping. I feel her. Sitting for hours and hours in the Spanx have to be killing them.

 

I get those leg cramps when I sit for hours in seminars.  Horrible

2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

I think it's kinda phenomenal. I couldn't do it and I'm 20 years Carole's junior.

My sister and brother are close to Carole's age. They  both have run several marathons and many half marathons.  That's even how my sister met her husband.  I got the lazy can't run gene in the family.  Never could run. I also know someone who has run the Boston Marathon several times. And my cousin has run the NY Marathon.  None of them had big parties, and award ceremonies way after the fact.

1 hour ago, Pop Tart said:

And she said that she was bothered by Bethenny’s crying because she felt threatened by it or it was aggressive or words to that effect. Huh? Bethenny’s crying could have been to get attention or sympathy, that I’d accept as a reason to be put off by it, but poor little bullied Carole is “threatened”?

And she's not a hugger.  Sounds like  then, how did she handle being around the grieving Casandra Grey?  Wouldn't she feel threatened about that?

14 minutes ago, DelicateDee said:

When Bethenny claimed one text, she was referring to one thread of texts, going back and forth. 

And am I the only one who keeps wondering just what kind of bruise Ramoana has on her cheek, the one she didn't want facing the camera (as If it's not on full display anyway)?  It looks dented.  How do you dent your cheekbone?   

I wonder if the bruise and wonky eye are related to some recent cosmetic procedure. And I tried to make one of my eyes look down and the other straight ahead. I couldn't do it and it gave me terrible eye strain.

Ok, someone beat me to the same conclusion. Maybe she had some botox situation that caused some kind of eye paralysis?   

Also, I forgot to mention poor Tinsley. How many people go on non work trips with people who are NOT your close friend?  I think Carole is a user and found someone different to use now.  And I think that Cassandra has talked shit about all the howives and put a bug in Carole's ear.  I'm sure she had some nasty things to say about ex it girl Tinsley.  It couldn't be the jail record because hasn't Cassandra's girl friend also been in jail too?  

Carole is just a user who obsorbs the personality and traits of the person she gloms onto and then drops them cold when someone better comes along.

Edited September 6, 2018 by howiveaddict

[Mozelle]

1 minute ago, diadochokinesis said:

But they don’t see the confessionals until they see the edited show. So, it doesn’t explain why she was acting so horrible to Bethenny in the moment during the season. She is just lying. 

 

My understanding is that their particular producer--the one who is present asking them about the goings-on for that particular week or weeks--clues them in about things that might have been said/done by the type of questions they ask. And, again, it's clear to see where Carole's THs change: it's when she's realizing that something is going on with Bethenny, particularly after their first spat.

[Jel]

20 minutes ago, dosodog said:

I used to think Skinny Girl Margaritas didn't exist.  I stopped expressing that because it seemed to irritate people and then they'd send me links on where to find it.

Well.  It does exist!  At my local QFC!

 

That's the grown up version of Where's Waldo!

(prominently displayed behind the shelf divider. Oh dear)

[Bronzedog]

1 hour ago, Jel said:

HER HIPPOCAMPUS IS IN THE 99TH PERCENTILE!

;)

Right there is something she can slap on her resume.  On the line right after her address.

[Rosiejuliemom]

Just now, howiveaddict said:

And I tried to make one of my eyes look down and the other straight ahead. I couldn't do it and it gave me terrible eye strain.

I can do it if I don't have my glasses on.

Damn lazy eyes.

[Martinigirl]

6 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

I get those leg cramps when I sit for hours in seminars.  Horrible

My sister and brother are close to Carole's age. They  both have run several marathons and many half marathons.  That's even how my sister met her husband.  I got the lazy can't run gene in the family.  Never could run. I also know someone who has run the Boston Marathon several times. And my cousin has run the NY Marathon.  None of them had big parties, and award ceremonies way after the fact.

And she's not a hugger.  Sounds like  then, how did she handle being around the grieving Casandra Grey?  Wouldn't she feel threatened about that?

I wonder if the bruise and wonky eye are related to some recent cosmetic procedure. And I tried to make one of my eyes look down and the other straight ahead. I couldn't do it and it gave me terrible eye strain.

She looks like Marty Feldman

[ShawnaLanne]

3 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

I can do it if I don't have my glasses on.

Damn lazy eyes.

Yeah, I'm thinking you don't look so glossy eyed. My HS BFF has a lazy eye and we did lots of recreational substances together and she never looked like that.

[Rosiejuliemom]

WWHL?

Xanax cookie time!

Lu looks good.

 

[Neeners]

Who says, "I'm a very, very, very sane person."? Also, didn't someone in one of these threads already prove that Carole is indeed a hugger? Whatever. I'm still laughing at Bethenny calling her a shmoron. I still don't like either of them and I'm glad Carole is out. I hope Bethenny is out soon, too, but I think hell will freeze over before that happens.

[ShawnaLanne]

Just now, Rosiejuliemom said:

WWHL?

Xanax cookie time!

Lu looks good.

 

With a Ramona Pinot Grigio chaser.

[Straycat80]

Lu looks great on WWHL. Poll said Bethenny looked the best on the reunion. 

[Frances]

35 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I'd like you to name two housewives from any franchise who have been on more than three seasons, who don't have the same track record.

The same can be said of Carole for that matter. The only person she hasn't beefed with is Heather and weren't they only together two seasons?

 

Yes to this!! 

I have this theory that RHONY has fundamentally become a game of "Who can take Queen B down?"  It started with Jill, who is known to have planned the whole thing, and she got burned. That set the precedent. Kelly thought she was smarter and cooler and saner and "up here," and that she could just waltz in and take Bethenny down, and it backfired in a big way. Then Bethenny left for a few seasons, and the first thing that happened when she got back is Luann openly said "let's take Bethenny down," and Bethenny went right back at her. Then Luann kind of took herself down with Tom. Next season, Ramona decides that she's going to have a go...and it backfires. I think that one lasted two season. Losing track at this point. This season, maybe Carole got tired of being the sidekick, and her brand of "I'm not really reality TV trash, but a cool intellectual journalist princess doing a zany experiment for research" was starting to wear thin after six years. So she got a dream team together and decided to have a go herself...

Just a theory, but if it's even a little bit right, then, yes, Bethenny has had beef with everyone, but that could be because someone is always trying to usurp the Queen.

Theories aside, I do think Bethenny knows her character on the show, and, flattering or not, she plays it very consistently.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Frances

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

2 hours ago, Jel said:

B: is that what you all do?

C: (Sarcastically, dismissively) Yeah, that's what we all do

Cut to tape of Carole and her friend doing that.

You cannot make this stuff up!

Two 50-something 1%-ers taunting a 40-something 1%-er. 

I came to the tv and began to play the DVR,

I saw without sound it was just shouting over shouting,

I conquered by erasing the sorry mess and coming over here to enjoy the REAL show: The Snark!!!

Carry on, my wayward ones!

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

With a Ramona Pinot Grigio chaser.

 

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Lastly, with Beth's incredible resume, why does she feel the need to be on a reality shit show.

I know this is rhetorical but Bethenny is on this show because she is contractually required to promote Skinny Girl and whatever popularity bump she had from the first round wasn't sustainable outside of this reality show. 

[KittyKat133]

Well, now we know Carole didn’t “choose” to not come back. Andy would have fired her ass for saying “oh Andy are you afraid of her too??” 

Ooooooffffffhhhh! Carole! How dare you bring Andy into it and expect an invitation back! Talk about bite the hand that feeds you! 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Beth should stop doing "impressions." They may be amusing, but she rarely sounds like the person she's imitating.

[eta: It just comes across as her paraphrasing someone else in the most obnoxious, b- - - -y, whiny tone of voice.]

(But she did a good Jill Zarin.) 

Cassandra seems very cool.  

Edited September 7, 2018 by hoodooznoodooz

[QuinnM]

34 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Then there is Carole. She humiliated Tinsley in an effort to once again be Fight Right Carole where Beth is concerned. No regard at all for Tins' feelings. The Dream Team deserted her. Ramona told her that she doesn't see how she looks. Dorinda deserted her by dissolving into tears and hugging Bethenny. Sonja doesn't care about Carole one way or the other. Or I imagine Lu, after she would have seen Carole's glee at her downfall. 

Right now Carole is on twitter saying neither Tinsley nor Bethenny are friends.  She has declared Duff a true friend and Beth Stern.  And she says that we should all follow them.  I guess because their her friends.

[Rosiejuliemom]

2 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

I know this is rhetorical but Bethenny is on this show because she is contractually required to promote Skinny Girl and whatever popularity bump she had from the first round wasn't sustainable outside of this reality show. 

Yup.

Skinnygirl sales dropped 26% in the first year and Beam was not happy.

A decent chunk of Beth's payout is contingent on promoting it and her talk show wasn't doing the job.

She knew she had to come back.

[ShawnaLanne]

17 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Heather and Carole were together for three seasons.

Lu and Kelly never beefed that much.

Moaner and Sonja squabble but their issues never last very long.

Jill and Kelly got along pretty well.

I don't recall Carole and Sonja ever really fighting.

Kristen was only on for two seasons, but she never had huge disagreements with Dorinda, Carole, or Sonja.

Other franchises? Cynthia and Kandi have always been friendly. Kandi has also never had big problems with Kenya or Sheree.

So that's why Sonja likes her so much!

But except for Carole and Heather everyone else has had issues with the other women within 3 seasons. Everyone. Except Kandi. She's pretty chill.

[hoodooznoodooz]

"And I hear a story, too," complete with rotating fingers, and neck muscles popping. Beth is deranged. 

[ShawnaLanne]

4 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Right now Carole is on twitter saying neither Tinsley nor Bethenny are friends.  She has declared Duff a true friend and Beth Stern.  And she says that we should all follow them.  I guess because their her friends.

Go Carole! Double down on your shittiness! Yay!

[dosodog]

2 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Right now Carole is on twitter saying neither Tinsley nor Bethenny are friends.  She has declared Duff a true friend and Beth Stern.  And she says that we should all follow them.  I guess because their her friends.

Poor Tinsley.  I'm really surprised that Carole has that opinion. She really seemed to like Tinsley.

Tinsley is crying at this very moment.  That's not snark on my part.  That is hurtful in a huge way.

[ShawnaLanne]

4 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Yup.

Skinnygirl sales dropped 26% in the first year and Beam was not happy.

A decent chunk of Beth's payout is contingent on promoting it and her talk show wasn't doing the job.

She knew she had to come back.

Isn't is great that she can? Whatever works.

[Rosiejuliemom]

2 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

"And I hear a story, too," complete with rotating fingers, and neck muscles popping. Beth is deranged. 

And yet the basketball she had sawed in half and bolted to her chest didn't move an inch.

[Mozelle]

4 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Yup.

Skinnygirl sales dropped 26% in the first year and Beam was not happy.

A decent chunk of Beth's payout is contingent on promoting it and her talk show wasn't doing the job.

She knew she had to come back.

As such, Bethenny can keep this show since it’s the only thing that validates her need to be seen. It’s why she’s signed up for this particular circus yet another year. She knows deep down that outside of this show, no one wants to see her mug on screen.

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Isn't is great that she can? Whatever works.

I'll give her credit for her hustle. She knows how to market her product.

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

17 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

She looks like Marty Feldman

Marty was too cute for that comparison. ;-)

[diadochokinesis]

3 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Poor Tinsley.  I'm really surprised that Carole has that opinion. She really seemed to like Tinsley.

Tinsley is crying at this very moment.  That's not snark on my part.  That is hurtful in a huge way.

I feel so bad for Tins. Sure she is a bit immature and annoying  but she is harmless. She is sweet and kind to pretty much everybody. She doesn’t deserve what Carole is throwing at her. 

[bosawks]

4 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

"And I hear a story, too," complete with rotating fingers, and neck muscles popping. Beth is deranged. 

I was never Beth’s biggest fan, at times I found her rather loathsome, but I always drew the line at deranged.

Then she said “Booyah”.....

[ShawnaLanne]

1 minute ago, diadochokinesis said:

I feel so bad for Tins. Sure she is a bit immature and annoying  but she is harmless. She is sweet and kind to pretty much everybody. She doesn’t deserve what Carole is throwing at her. 

I mean she even apologize d to Sonja for going off on her and hoo boy did Sonja deserve it.

[howiveaddict]

Carole, so Beth and Tinsley are not your friends. I go on vacation all the time with people who aren't my friends.  It's so much fun traveling with annoying aquaintances.

[Caseysgirl]

Andy should be better at controlling these women by now - how many seasons has he been doing this for?  It’s pretty obvious that he’s Betheny’s Bitch but as much as I dislike Betheny, Carole did herself no favors tonight. I don’t think she was fired; I think she was just done so she didn’t care how she came off.

[hoosier80]

I've not watched more than one episode this season.  I think I saw part of the episode where someone had a celebration lunch or dinner for Carole, for her completing the marathon.  Carole bitched about the celebration, because it wasn't enough about her and there wasn't enough in the food or décor to say 'marathon'.    My thoughts were - be thankful someone had an event to celebrate your completing the marathon.  Lots of folks run in marathons, and not everyone has a celebration in their honor.  She came across as juvenile and petty.  

I saw the reunion by chance.  No intention of watching it.  I'd read or seen that Carole and Bethenny were fighting, like the RHNY version of the Hatfields and the McCoys.  

Carole came across very badly.  Yeah, Bethenny's a bitch, always been, probably always will be.  Sharp tongued, doesn't hold back one bit.  But Carole, you liked that when she most probably fought battles for you.  You overlooked that as long as you could have her as an ally.  

The whole saying that Tinsley wasn't a good friend really hurt Tinsley.  People have the video online.  I watched it several times.  Tinsley put her head down, looked like she was fighting back tears.  She really thought they were friends.  Turns out, Carole was just using her as an ally for the show.  

Then the comment about Bethenny crying made her feel frightened or it was menacing.  Da fuq?  How does another person crying translate to being menacing?  

Didn't Carole kind of throw Heather under the bus so she could be BFF's with Bethenny?  I thought Carole and Heather were real friends, but seems like Carole was using her too.  

I'd rather have the upfront bitch than the stealth bitch any day. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Narrative. Find another word.”

Tortured. Motley crew. Hobby. 

[Rosiejuliemom]

3 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

I don’t think she was fired; I think she was just done so she didn’t care how she came off.

I don't either. It was pretty clear from the beginning of the reunion that Carole was 1000% done with the show.

3 minutes ago, hoosier80 said:

Didn't Carole kind of throw Heather under the bus so she could be BFF's with Bethenny?  I thought Carole and Heather were real friends, but seems like Carole was using her too.

Not that I can recall. She was friends with both. I think she and Heather are still friends. At least close enough for Heather to film with Carole every season since she left. 

[Pop Tart]

Lu’s legs on WWHL? Like phenomenal. And this is reunion adjacent because she’s wearing the dress she would have worn if she’d been at the reunion. ?

Clearly now that Carole is done being a RH, she’s not only ditching Bethenny but Tinsley too. And I’m sure she’ll be trashing the show from here on out because clearly she was always too good for it. That notwithstanding the six seasons she took the paychecks.

I think what’s made me turn around on Bethenny this season is the way she knows what her job is in regards to being on the show. She uses the show to promo her stuff and keep her name out there and the show uses her to generate energy and drama. I never liked her in the past, though I could appreciate what she was doing as a reality show “performer”. But this season it’s come to me that she may be the “realest” of them all in that she is really always being her truest self. Sure that truest self is a sad, lonely, embittered soul, but she is who she is and that’s what she shows on tv.

Carole’s big mistake has always been in her thinking that she could dip her toe in, but not really have to fully partipate and get dirty. She wanted the perks of attention and paycheck but also wanted to somehow pretend she was still way above all of this. Always the “too cool for school” gal in the city.

[Frances]

30 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Go Carole! Double down on your shittiness! Yay!

Seriously, what does Carole have to gain at this point by proving she wasn't close to Tinsley? Even if Bethenny did make up some big lie about Carole and Tinsley being BFFs -- and let's be clear, I don't even think that's the kind of thing that makes sense to talk about in terms of truth/lies -- who actually cares at this point? All this Tweeting just makes Carole look like an asshole.

She has also said on camera and in writing many times that she was a great friend to Bethenny 100% of the time. But now she says on television that "it had crossed her mind" that Bethenny was a narcissist before this season. I wouldn't consider my awesome friend so awesome if they were thinking I was a narcissist!! And she says she put on the hard hat for Bethenny's brand, but now she's going on Twitter saying that it is misogynistic and skinny-shaming -- is that what she thought before when she was being an awesome friend? And now she's saying on Twitter that they were never that close? Was that part of being ride-or-die?

Edited September 6, 2018 by Frances

[chewycandy]

12 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“Narrative. Find another word.”

Tortured. Motley crew. Hobby. 

I thought her delivery of it was pretty funny as she was looking for the texts. Much like her “you’re welcome” to Ramona.

Lu looked great on WWHL. Still not ready to make nice with Doris. Meme of the night was Ramona’s thousand yard stare: “when the Pinot is noir.” Hee