Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

[Maharincess]

The house flipping is funny because I just watched Amber's 16 and Pregnant episode and she and Gary were putting their 15 dollar crib together and she told Gary "we don't got no screwdriver, here's a butter knife".

I feel bad for whoever buys that house. You know Matt and his " contractor" used dirt cheap materials so they could scam more money. They probably found stuff at the side of the road and used that.

[SPLAIN]

The house flipping is quite odd. Matt doesn't own a hammer, he puts up Christmas lights with tape, yet he and his ex-boss are whipping run down houses into shape and making a tidy profit? Also, it wasn't that long ago that MTV had to write a check to Amber's landlord to prevent her from being evicted, and now she's bankrolling a house flipping business? There's something fishy about the whole storyline.

Amber was four months behind on her rent.

She bounced a check. She was apparently a college student,too...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/teen-mom-amber-portwood-home-eviction-mtv-pays-rent/

Does Amber own her home or does she rent? It would be funny if she is putting her money into flipping and selling houses while she RENTS.

Edited February 28, 2016 by SPLAIN

[Cosmocrush]

Does anyone else find it odd that MTV didn't film ANY of the house flipping stuff? I mean, it's not like Amber has this riveting storyline to begin with. Each conversation she has with Matt or anyone else production brings into the house (or restaurant) is just a rehash of every other conversation that's already been had. You'd think they'd be jumping at the idea of having something new to film yet we saw NOTHING of the process. I realize MTV wasn't there that long in the scheme of things but the whole thing just feels off to me. 

It is odd because I'd think MTV would jump at the chance to film Amber off the couch. We had to see them tape up the Christmas lights, LOL.      But then her and Matt watching other people paint and pound nails etc. isn't the same thing as Amber and Matt actually working. 

 

I don't think Amber is a dumb as she seems, I think she must know Matt is a rotten creepy deadbeat but she's so lonely she's decided she'd rather be in denial than be alone.   Of course if she got off the couch and left the house and got a real job or went to school she probably could meet someone decent.  Heck, even if she just got involved in Leah's activities she could probably meet some other mothers/women besides Cousin Crystal but no one is going to tell her that, least of all Cousin Crystal or Matt.  

 

I hope she's at least smart enough to stay on her birth control although I don't think Amber really has any interest in another child; she barely has any interest in the child she already has and she knows Matt certainly isn't capable of being a responsible parent.    I really don't like Gary but I think that thanks to his mom at first and then from Christina he really has managed to take pretty good care of Little Leah Leanne since he's had her full time.  

[evilmindatwork]

The house flipping is quite odd.  Matt doesn't own a hammer, he puts up Christmas lights with tape, yet he and his ex-boss are whipping run down houses into shape and making a tidy profit?  Also, it wasn't that long ago that MTV had to write a check to Amber's landlord to prevent her from being evicted, and now she's bankrolling a house flipping business?  There's something fishy about the whole storyline.

Haha. I am seeing multiple comments on the Christmas lights thing? How does one put Christmas lights up? I ask because I am NOT handy (but, smart enough to avoid flipping houses), and also never grew up with Christmas lights at my house for whatever reason. Genuinely curious. 

[NikSac]

Amber was four months behind on her rent.

She bounced a check. She was apparently a college student,too...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/teen-mom-amber-portwood-home-eviction-mtv-pays-rent/

Does Amber own her home or does she rent? It would be funny if she is putting her money into flipping and selling houses while she RENTS.

The last thing I read said she was still renting although I don't know if that's still the case. I figured at very least she could move into her first flip house.

[NikSac]

Haha. I am seeing multiple comments on the Christmas lights thing? How does one put Christmas lights up? I ask because I am NOT handy (but, smart enough to avoid flipping houses), and also never grew up with Christmas lights at my house for whatever reason. Genuinely curious.

Not with tape (says the person who spent hours scrubbing glue off the house from the previous owners, still burned into my brain 15 years later). :) There are various ways but the easiest to me are the gutter hooks, little plastic things that clip into your rain gutter on one side and the lights clip into a spot on the outside edge. Or nails if you can put them in and string the lights over those.

[starfire]

SPLAIN, on 27 Feb 2016 - 9:36 PM, said:

Amber was four months behind on her rent.

She bounced a check. She was apparently a college student,too...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/teen-mom-amber-portwood-home-eviction-mtv-pays-rent/

Does Amber own her home or does she rent? It would be funny if she is putting her money into flipping and selling houses while she RENTS.

 

She posted on Twitter within the past few weeks that Matt is on the lease with her....so yeah, she/they rent.

[ghoulina]

Also, she shouldn't sell these houses.  She should keep them as rental properties.

 

That's what I would do. But Amber is way too lazy to be a landlord. "Oh, you have a burst pipe? Sorry, I just got into the perfect spot on my sectional and Matt just made me some hamburgers. I'll have him come look at it after he cleans the kitchen and puts Leah to bed". 

 

Does anyone else find it odd that MTV didn't film ANY of the house flipping stuff? I mean, it's not like Amber has this riveting storyline to begin with. Each conversation she has with Matt or anyone else production brings into the house (or restaurant) is just a rehash of every other conversation that's already been had. You'd think they'd be jumping at the idea of having something new to film yet we saw NOTHING of the process. I realize MTV wasn't there that long in the scheme of things but the whole thing just feels off to me.

 

No, I find the entire thing very odd. She says in the podcast that it's not easy, but it sure looked effortless to me. They bought a house and had it turned around and ready to sell by the next episode? They only put $15k into it? I just think something entirely shady is going on.

[qtpye]

Does anyone else find it odd that MTV didn't film ANY of the house flipping stuff? I mean, it's not like Amber has this riveting storyline to begin with. Each conversation she has with Matt or anyone else production brings into the house (or restaurant) is just a rehash of every other conversation that's already been had. You'd think they'd be jumping at the idea of having something new to film yet we saw NOTHING of the process. I realize MTV wasn't there that long in the scheme of things but the whole thing just feels off to me.

 

 

I bet you Matt would not let them film it, because it would expose all the shady things he is doing and all the corners he must be cutting.

[Tatum]

No, I find the entire thing very odd. She says in the podcast that it's not easy, but it sure looked effortless to me. They bought a house and had it turned around and ready to sell by the next episode? They only put $15k into it? I just think something entirely shady is going on.

 

My guess is this- I would bet Amber and Matt formed an LLC to purchase these properties (owned 50/50, but with a resolution that either can sign without the other) and Matt "sold" it to his partner who will then turn around and resell it on the open market at a much greater profit to which Amber has no access. Ten bucks says Amber never even glanced at the closing statement, and any proceeds from the sale were deposited into a joint checking account which Matt will keep emptying to either purchase additional houses or claim to be using to purchase materials or pay contractors. At 50% he's equally liable for taxes and bounced checks, but he has no assets and probably poor credit so what does he care- a lien or judgment against him will just be one more in a long line.

 

In fact, as long as he has signing powers, he may have left himself off entirely as an owner of the LLC, which may give Amber a false sense of security. All that's really doing though is removing himself of any liability while siphoning off all of the assets. Amber is just so fucking stupid.

Edited February 29, 2016 by Tatum

[qtpye]

I think at this point we could have video evidence of Matt doing something horrible dated from yesterday and Amber would whine "He has totally changed since then.. its like he is a totally different person...why do you keep bringing up the past?"

 

I just hope when he bleeds her dry we will no longer get "Why does this always happen to me..." bullshit from her.  She can not blame addiction, youth, or Gary on this bad decision.  She is going into this with both her eyes wide open.

 

Of course expecting a Teen Mom from this show to take responsibility for her own actions, is like expected gold coins to rain down from heaven...just not going to happen no matter how hard you wish for it.

[gunderda]

They are "doing really good"  but only on their 2nd flip.  Ohhhhhhkayyyyyyyyyyyy  lol 

[Elizabeth9]

They are "doing really good" but only on their 2nd flip. Ohhhhhhkayyyyyyyyyyyy lol

Well, it does take time to stand around and watch other people do the work. Oh, hell, they probably supervise remotely from the sofa, who am I kidding?

[AdorkableWitch]

Matt has been accused of sexual assault by an ex.

 

Gary the Hairy Fairy needs to file for full custody right now.

[Lemur]

That's what I would do. But Amber is way too lazy to be a landlord. "Oh, you have a burst pipe? Sorry, I just got into the perfect spot on my sectional and Matt just made me some hamburgers. I'll have him come look at it after he cleans the kitchen and puts Leah to bed". 

 

Not only that, she and Matt have to get the hell way from the undoubtedly shit job they did fixing those houses up.  If she were to hold onto them for a long-term investment, she'd be putting a ton more money into them.

[DangerousMinds]

Matt has been accused of sexual assault by an ex.

 

Gary the Hairy Fairy needs to file for full custody right now.

Unfortunately, the woman dropped the restraining order and he was never charged with anything.

[GreatKazu]

Matt has been accused of sexual assault by an ex.

 

Gary the Hairy Fairy needs to file for full custody right now.

Gary does not need to do such a thing because he has had full custody ever since Amber signed over her rights prior to going to prison. Amber only has visitation.

[ebkitty]

Unreal! I can't even keep up with his crimes any more! I have never seen a person do such horrible things, and never receive any consquences.

I already know Amber won't care, she'll just scream it's in his past, I've known my man for a year, & he was on drugs! It's so frustrating that she doesn't care enough for her daughter or herself, to get away from this loser! Some how Matt & Amber will make this Gary's fault!

[CofCinci]

Is the alleged victim one of his many babymomma?

[ghoulina]

Is the alleged victim one of his many babymomma?

 

I don't think so. It doesn't say as such in the article. It also says that the incident happened just a few months before he started trying to romance Amber. It sounds like they were just kind of dating and he pushed her further than she wanted to go. It's a shame she dropped the charges or the order, but I cannot judge other women for how they handle these situations. 

 

This is one scary dude. When will enough be enough for Amber?

Edited February 29, 2016 by ghoulina

[honeydo7]

Brooklynista

We had major concerns about a family member whose Prince Charming was just like Matt.  A controlling, chronically unemployed, liar, with bad credit & trouble with his ex's. But this sleaze swept her off her feet, claiming they were "soulmates" & that we were jealous of their relationship. He even convinced her to cut ties with us. Now, she's working two jobs to keep a roof over their heads & provide for their kids, while he lays around watching tv all day. Ain't love grand!

 

 

[Tatum]

 

This is one scary dude. When will enough be enough for Amber?

 

When his actions directly impact HER. Amber is a selfish asshole who won't care what he does as long as it doesn't hurt her (and only her- sadly I wouldn't count potentially hurting Leah as hurting Amber).

[Snarky McSnarky]

Matt has been accused of sexual assault by an ex.

Amber will say she knows all about it and the woman is a liarface.

[Brooklynista]

Is there a way for Gary to prevent Leah from having contact with Matt when Amber has visits? Is that anything he can go to court for? I know courts can't get into things like ax having a bad boyfriend but this situation seems like a powder keg that's already on Tick, Tick...

[GreatKazu]

Is there a way for Gary to prevent Leah from having contact with Matt when Amber has visits? Is that anything he can go to court for? I know courts can't get into things like ax having a bad boyfriend but this situation seems like a powder keg that's already on Tick, Tick...

Gary doesn't have to give Amber visitation period. He has full legal custody. He can call the shots the way he sees fit. Gary is giving Amber visitation because that is his child's mother. It appears he drew up some kind of agreement in the last episode, but I am not clear what that entailed as far as the fine details. In the end, Gary has the final say-so. Whether he will set boundaries with Leah being around Matt remains to be seen. The guy has not technically been charged with any crime. His only crime is not providing for his children. Still, Gary can decide if Leah should not be around Matt since he is the parent who has full legal custody. ! If I were in Gary's situation, I would definitely tell Amber she is only allowed supervised visitation as long as Matt is around. If she really wants her child in her life, she would make better choices.

[NikSac]

Unreal! I can't even keep up with his crimes any more! I have never seen a person do such horrible things, and never receive any consquences.

Jenelle of TM2 comes to mind.

[Pdxblonde]

But you guys... Amber has changed soooo much and is just the BEST MOM EVER!!!! Don't you read all the comments on FB and Twitter praising her??

How dare ANYONE think she doesn't love her Boo-Boo! Being a good mom consists of lawling around all day in bed, and then the couch, and then the bed again!

[NikSac]

Is there a way for Gary to prevent Leah from having contact with Matt when Amber has visits? Is that anything he can go to court for? I know courts can't get into things like ax having a bad boyfriend but this situation seems like a powder keg that's already on Tick, Tick...

 

Probably not. The scary thing is I think Matt's the only one who does anything to take care of Leah, too. So if he's not around what does poor Leah do before her "Mom" gets her butt out of bed at 10:30? I think Gary can limit the visits. I hope he does, as he finds out more about Matt. An afternoon at the park with Leah (NO MATT!) is about all Amber seems to be capable of at this point.

 

(ETA: and I think 10:30 was totally a lie. It's funny to me that Amber thought that sounded good... probably better than the truth. 2:30, maybe?)

Edited March 1, 2016 by NikSac

[truelovekiss]

Jesus H. Christ, Amber. You've broken the space-time continuum. You made JENELLE sound like the rational one in a situation.

This is enough reason to hate Amber forever. I should never be forced to side with Jenelle on anything.

[corgster]

The Ashley is reporting that the woman who accused Matt of sexual assault committed suicide 6 months later. I don't even know what to say anymore.

[ebkitty]

http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/2016/02/29/police-documents-reveal-teen-mom-og-star-matt-baier-was-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-2014/

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Matt Baier was accused of sexual assault. I have a feeling Amber still won't care.

Edited March 1, 2016 by ebkitty

[Lexie]

Is there a way for Gary to prevent Leah from having contact with Matt when Amber has visits? Is that anything he can go to court for? I know courts can't get into things like ax having a bad boyfriend but this situation seems like a powder keg that's already on Tick, Tick...

I think that if push came to shove and Matt was not allowed near Leah, Amber just wouldn't see Leah anymore. I don't see her telling Matt he has to go somewhere else for the weekend or asking him to do anything that would accommodate that. Also she would have to get off her ass and actually care for the kid. Nah. I don't think it would happen.

i don't think she really cares about having Leah. I think all the crying and carrying on is because it really pisses her off that Gary has the control and can call the shots. She said herself that she is fine with Gary having her for school and that he lives close to the school or something to that effect. Well why doesn't she live closer to her kid? They have bought two properties to flip and only rent wherever they live now so why not just move closer? It's not like either one of those deadbeats have a job or responsibilities in the area and she clearly has some money. Gary knows her well, she feels like she has to win and that is the thing that bothers her Imo.

[NikSac]

I think that if push came to shove and Matt was not allowed near Leah, Amber just wouldn't see Leah anymore. I don't see her telling Matt he has to go somewhere else for the weekend or asking him to do anything that would accommodate that. Also she would have to get off her ass and actually care for the kid. Nah. I don't think it would happen.

<snip>

 

Gary knows her well, she feels like she has to win and that is the thing that bothers her Imo.

 

Good points. I don't think Amber wants to have to do ANY of the work involved.

 

And re: your last sentence on Gary I can't forget that smirk/grin she had when she "won" the battle to take Leah to Florida. You're right, and so was Gary. It was all about winning.

[CofCinci]

The Ashley is reporting that the woman who accused Matt of sexual assault committed suicide 6 months later. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Oh my goodness. That poor woman.

Amber will most likely find that out tomorrow. Matt will make an excuse ("she was crazy before she met me") and Amber will not only buy his excuse but buy him a gift too.

[NikSac]

Oh my goodness. That poor woman.

Amber will most likely find that out tomorrow. Matt will make an excuse ("she was crazy before she met me") and Amber will not only buy his excuse but buy him a gift too.

 

Or buy herself one as a "doghouse" gift from him. But, yeah, I agree.

Edited March 1, 2016 by NikSac

[iheartla]

^ Good grief. That poor woman.
 I can see it now, a few years from now after he drains Amber's bank account, MTV is done, she still doesn't have Leah, she will feel hopeless. Amber needs to leave him, like yesterday. 

Let's see if I can make a list

Bullies Teen Moms on Twitter

Flirts with Teen Moms on Twitter

Eviction from apartment

Visits Amber in Indiana, immediately moves in with her. He "sold" his place just to be with her, how romantic.
Punches hole in wall during Vegas trip
Has secret kids
Has not paid child support for secret kids
Wrote a book on child abuse
Has several alias's 
Dated a woman who was on Oprah (trying to weasel his way onto TV)
Sexual Assault, woman commits suicide.

Anything else?

 

[pakalolo]

The Ashley is reporting that the woman who accused Matt of sexual assault committed suicide 6 months later. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Yup, I'm out. I can't comment on this or Amber's relationship with Matt anymore. It just stopped being fun.

I'm still here to talk shit about all the other Teen Moms on other threads though, that will continue to be my daily weird indulgence of superficiality and snark.

Maybe a separate thread can be made for Matt and all his icky stuff and we can keep this one for when Amber gets back to her senses and leaves this monster?

[Tatum]

Maybe a separate thread can be made for Matt and all his icky stuff and we can keep this one for when Amber gets back to her senses and leaves this monster?

 

You mean when Matt leaves her high and dry and Amber screeches about how everyone is out to get her? Because I don't know what else Amber could learn that would force her to come to her senses.

[Brooklynista]

I vote for a Mooching Matt thread.

[charmed1]

I would've loved to have seen more of Butch with Matt at the wedding. Only because criminals recognize other criminals. I have a feeling that 15 minutes of be bopping with Butch would have Matt spilling all his dirty little secrets. Amber is so easy to manipulate and Matt has studied her. Figured out how she ticks and uses it to his advantage. He's very crafty. Clearly she is not the brightest of the Teen Moms since she's the only one who accepted his advances. When he was insulting Gary, equating Gary's weight to drug use and deflecting his own deadbeat dadness, he kept looking over at Amber to observe her reaction. He saw it was working and kept going. Gary's the bad guy, you're so awesome...more money please.

On a positive note, it's good to see that Geery has transitioned from Beldman Lineman to Hustlers Don't Sleep.

[ghoulina]

Anything else?

 

Give it a week. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I was really rooting for Amber when she decided to go to jail and was first released. She had much more self-awareness then in her interviews and in her book (yeah, I read it, judge away....).

 

Now the whole situation with Matt is to the point where I can't even snark on it anymore. It's just too sad.

Edited March 1, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[GreatKazu]

If snarking on Matt is too much because of the suicide of the rape victim, why have a separate thread? Just my two cents.

As far as Amber, her life IS Matt. Cannot snark on Amber without the mention of Matt since he figures into her every move, which is not a lot since they are fused to the couch.

No shame in my game. If Matt burns Amber for her money and takes off leaving her penniless? Good! Her bad decisions will have to cost her. As it is, it is costing her child and she could give two shits about Leah.

If Matt were to hurt Amber in such a way that she ends up dead, obviously that is not good. It would be devastating.

Amber, unlike the rape victim, is a willing participant. She chooses to be with him and defend his actions. She doles out her money keft and right. That money could be going towards a home closer to Leah. She lost all her TM $$$ before per her own words. She clearly does not learn. I clearly do not care.

[MerryMary]

To paraphrase Oda Mae Brown in Ghost, "Amber, you in danger girl!"

 

Get the hell away from this guy before he ruins your life. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I should clarify my previous post -

I mean I'm still hear to read others snark on Matt. I just don't have the energy to do it right now because I'm just too sad about it to be able to come up with anything snarky to say right now.

 

[gunderda]

Is there a way for Gary to prevent Leah from having contact with Matt when Amber has visits? Is that anything he can go to court for? I know courts can't get into things like ax having a bad boyfriend but this situation seems like a powder keg that's already on Tick, Tick...

Most likely not.  My friend jsut went through something similar for her step-daughter who lives with her and her husband full time.  Bio mom is a mess and has a super shady husband.  They went through a long process of trying to restrict visitation because of that guy and it took over a year and just recently found out that they lost the case. The case worker didn't believe them or their daughter.  And bio mom's current husband has domestic assault charges and his previous family (ex wife and kids) FLED from him and his kids want nothing to do with him.  The system is broken.

 

Gary doesn't have to give Amber visitation period. He has full legal custody. He can call the shots the way he sees fit. 

Actually I think he does.  During filming he was giving her the minimum that was required of him by state law.  He can't cut visitation just because he says so.

Edited March 1, 2016 by gunderda

[CofCinci]

There's now a Matt thread in case this one is a trigger.

Edited March 1, 2016 by CofCinci

[GreatKazu]

Actually I think he does.  During filming he was giving her the minimum that was required of him by state law.  He can't cut visitation just because he says so.

My understanding was, Gary asked his lawyer what amount of time was the minimum he could give Amber if he chose to give her visitation. I seem to recall Amber giving an interview or she said it on the show, back when she was released from prison, Gary will keep Leah from her because he does not have to give her any visitation. She felt angry because Gary told her he was going to pretty much test how Amber behaves before he considers giving her some visitation.

[gunderda]

My understanding was, Gary asked his lawyer what amount of time was the minimum he could give Amber if he chose to give her visitation. I seem to recall Amber giving an interview or she said it on the show, back when she was released from prison, Gary will keep Leah from her because he does not have to give her any visitation. She felt angry because Gary told her he was going to pretty much test how Amber behaves before he considers giving her some visitation.

 

This season I believe she made the comment during one of the episodes that she found out there was a state law mandating the minimum amount of time she was allowed visitation. I think it lessened the amount Gary was even giving her to which she stated her annoyance about but I'm pretty sure she pulled her own oops by it not benefiting her anything additional. 

 

I think she found this out after she finally went to a lawyer about getting a custody agreement.

 

Or maybe it was Gary's attorney that informed him of it.  Either way it's a recent thing that they didn't even know existed back when she was released.  

 

And I'm not sure I'm typing coherently because I have a bit of a migraine lol

Edited March 1, 2016 by gunderda

[pakalolo]

If snarking on Matt is too much because of the suicide of the rape victim, why have a separate thread? Just my two cents.

Yeah, I wasn't really sure how it would help, I just suggested something while the juxtaposition of funny snark and stark reality was fresh in my brain before really thinking it through.

I know most of what we snark on here is really kind of sad if you think about it too hard, but the new revelation about Matt's past is just beyond my abilities to spin into light afternoon internet discussions about my guilty pleasure reality shows and I was just thinking of a way to corral it. If that makes sense.