Lexie

She straight out said she only wants to call her dad dad. So does that not tell you it was Chelsea's idea? Aubree probably knows that Chelsea would be pissed if she said that to her

Aubree herself says that she only wants to call Adam dad but Chelsea isn't pushing anything? Okay. Also don't put words in my mouth I never said Chelsea isn't allowed to be with anyone else--it doesn't make Cole aubrees father Making aubree feel bad for loving her dad is a big deal. Aubree will figure it out eventually but for now she's just. Little kid who loves her douche bag dad.

Yeah chelsea is also being that same kind of bitch. Now that she has pushed javi into isaacs life as a father figure it is Isaac who will suffer because they are getting divorced. Chelsea is playing the exact same game with Aubree. Mtv has nothing else that makes Adam look like a bad father because he isn't even allowed to see Aubree unsupervised. Which is just the way Chelsea wants it. now that she picked a douche for her kids father and set it up that he can only see the kid at his parents house (which he deserved at the time) she wants to cry that he's a douche and never around. She can't even get her story straight about what exactly she did or said about the dance, it's so obvious.

if they had anything worse on Adam we would see it. And Isaac was told to call javi daddy years ago, before the wedding where kail straight out said that she felt the bond was better between Isaac and javi. So idk why you think it's so far fetched. It's exactly the same except at least javi was providing benefits for Isaac and Cole is just showing up for kindergarten dances.

I never said not get involved. I said they shouldn't be replacing biological fathers and the moms shouldn't be playing head games with little kids out of spite and bitterness. Big difference.

It doesn't matter in the sense that we don't have control over manipulating children and alienating the fathers of these kids. You can also feel free to ignore. also I'm inclined to believe that mtv does edit the fathers to look worse than they are. They made sure to include Adam saying that they would edit him out when he said how he was edited unfairly on an aftershock but then apparently edited out jenelles boyfriend saying that he would beat his kid if she ruined his phone. I don't think the dads are as bad as they seem and I also don't think the moms are the goody goodys that they are portrayed to be at times.

No it really doesn't because you aren't the parent of either kid. These moms are controlling shit to fit their fantasy of a happy family and its gross to watch them manipulate kids like that. Chelsea tried for years to have Adam fit that fantasy knowing that he is a tool so yeah, Her judgement seems to suck in general. She would be with any guy who would have her right now its cruel to make Aubree wonder if he was coming up till the last minute because she was playing her games and not communicating so Cole could go instead.

But my point was that these new relationships might not work out and statistically they probably won't. So I don't think it's a great idea to shove Cole into the daddy role so soon. Shoving Cole into that spot isn't necessarily the answer to how Aubree is probably going to have major daddy issues. It it doesn't really matter how you perceive javi vs Cole. Kail was so sure at the time but things change sometimes too.

Yeah kind of like how kail thought javi would replace jo and they would all live happily ever after while no kicked rocks. Except it didn't actually happen that way.

Why does Cole not have to get his phone out and look it up? I also don't believe that Chelsea didn't know when or where it would be when she first told Adam. If she even told Adam.

It's partially her fault because if it would make Aubree happy to have Adam there Chelsea could have texted him the specifics and told him that Aubree would like to go with him. Cole sure Knew the details, do you think he got them from the school website in an effort to prove that he wanted to go and deserved to be there ? Chelsea wanted Aubree to go wih Cole instead and that's what makes her an asshole in this situation to me. Nobody is saying that Adam is super involved with aubrees school or even arguing that he should be. How could he be when he is not even allowed to go get her from school? Chelsea wants Adams contact with Aubree to be limited and supervised so it is her job to fill him in on the details and make arrangements if she wanted him to be there for Aubree. Which she doesn't.

I don't think we really know anything about Miranda We don't see a lot of her and their marriage is probably not all it's cracked up to be considering that Corey was banging Leah still after the wedding But my point is that I think they should have waited until things settled down more with Gracie acting out and Ali's issues and Leah's issues and custody issues I don't know why nobody believes what Ali is saying, she's there clear as day saying what she feels exactly like she did in that car ride with Leah where she had no breakfast. I'm not going to just not believe it because Leah is the way that she is and Miranda seems more together. If Ali feels like that it should be addressed and she definitely shouldn't be holding something that she herself says is too heavy Personally I think both twins need to see someone to talk about their feelings and all the bullshit upheaval they have been through in their lives Barb was between a rock and a hard place when she was basically forced to step up and raise jace. She knows that he alternative would be jenelle leaving him with whatever drug addict loser friend who would babysit or worse dragging him along. Imagine jace along for the ride on any of the nonsense that jenelle has been up to since he was born. I don't consider that volunteering at all. She did it for his safety and did not have the power to put him up for adoption like she wanted jenelle to do in the first place.

i can actually see why Leah is so infuriated. If Ali says something is too heavy they should not be making her carry it. I feel really bad for Ali in general. I'm actually surprised that Corey and Miranda would have a kid at this point. So much is going on with Leah and the twins. But then I was also mystified why Leah wanted a third kid at that time too.

I have defended barb before but honestly at his point I can't understand what she is thinking. How can she allow jace to be over there knowing that weirdo Neanderthal is there, knowing that is some shady shit must be going on, knowing that he was unsupervised outside the last time, knowing that their visits end in screaming every single time, knowing that even with Nathan who seems less psycho than this new guy jace was afraid and around domestic violence. It's a real shame that jace wasn't put up for adoption. He is better off with barb than he would be with his "mother" but barb is an asshole for not cutting jenelle out of his life a long time ago Still can't believe we are seeing yet another guy telling jenelle she needs to get jace back and blaming barb for trying to hurt jenelle by raising jace. Where do they find these people? I totally think jenelle will have another kid with this new guy. Especially now that she is not on birth control anymore. I am beginning to think that both Chelsea and randy are total assholes as well. Randy himself said that Chelsea and Adam fought a lot and in front of Aubree. He should be glad that there is some distance between them because they are both immature and Chelsea is extremely bitter. I don't believe that Chelsea told Adam anything about the dance and once again Aubree got positive reinforcement for wanting Cole to go. idk why randy is so pissy about money because Chelsea didn't do shit to support herself and Aubree either Daddy's princess gets a pass on living off of him and mtv money and taking like 6 years to get a certificate that allows her to work 3 days a week I just find it really hilarious that he acts like she has accomplished more than Adam in that sense i can't believe kail had he audacity to say she works 25 hour shifts when she was talking to javi. Wow..

There is a Facebook fan page that shows aubrees desk at school and it only says Lind.