The Duggars and Their World: Fashion, Food, Finance, Schoolin’ and Child Rearin'

[JoanArc]

I wonder if Jackson ever gets to the doctor for a check-up?  If he did they would know if he is having developmental issues.  I'm thinking they never take the older children to the doctor unless they get really sick.  Keeping him with the little ones sure isn't doing him any good.  He's one of the truly lost ones.

Jim Bob was tiny for his age, and was bullied for it. A lot of the Duggar males grow really late. I'd me more concerned how Jackson still behaves like an excited 5 year old while going through puberty.

 

Don't judge me ... but the first thing that came to mind was this silly rhyme we laughingly recited when younger. I'll just share the beginning - We, must, we must, we must increase our ...

Oh, I thought it too.

[Almost 3000]

Don't judge me ... but the first thing that came to mind was this silly rhyme we laughingly recited when younger. I'll just share the beginning - We, must, we must, we must increase our ...

 

^^ Me too...

Edited April 4, 2016 by Almost 3000

[Sew Sumi]

IMHO and it's just a hunch. That verse was not posted by accident.

 

There may be more trouble in Tontitown. Again, IMHO.

Increase our faith, decrease our ego? That seems apt in Duggarville to MANY parties, especially if there is really a marriage on the rocks. Maybe Smuggar isn't as unanimously reformed as advertised?

[GeeGolly]

Increase our faith, decrease our ego? That seems apt in Duggarville to MANY parties, especially if there is really a marriage on the rocks. Maybe Smuggar isn't as unanimously reformed as advertised?

But I'm sure the message was meant for heathens ...

[Sew Sumi]

They passively-aggressively post stuff that seems to be related to family (remember the crap we got during Joshgate?). And reports point to the fact that Smuggar wasn't at Easter dinner. I think they might have taken off to Big Sandy with TFDW and Prissy for a while to cool their heels, but at any rate, someone feeding tabloids information made that claim. 

 

I just don't think that they're done guilting out Smuggar yet. The fundies really, really hate adultery. 

[Churchhoney]

The Duggars posted: "He must increase, but I must decrease," - John 3:30 KJV on their FB. What the hell does that mean? The Duggars certainly don't believe the "decrease" part relates to population control. Or using disposable plates, cups, etc.

 

The influence of God in my life must grow while my own selfishness must shrink, I think.

Increase our faith, decrease our ego? That seems apt in Duggarville to MANY parties, especially if there is really a marriage on the rocks. Maybe Smuggar isn't as unanimously reformed as advertised?

 

I really don't think this quote would relate to a marriage on the rocks, unless the Duggars really really really don't understand it. And I expect they do understand it, or at least know what sorts of occasions it's used for. As far as I know, it's a pretty common thought that generally expresses how Christians are to behave. I'm quite familiar with it, and I've been an atheist for decades! Pretty sure it's just one of the many we're-affirming-our-conviction-that-God-comes-first things that they quote.

[Missy Vixen]

Pretty sure it's just one of the many we're-affirming-our-conviction-that-God-comes-first things that they quote.

It's more "we're godlier than you are" BS, but I find it odd that they'd post this particular verse a week or so after the tabloid that's been busting them on the regular prints that Jim Boob and J-Chelle's marriage is dangling by a thread.

 

Again, that's my opinion, but I'm wondering what's up now.

[Churchhoney]

 

It's more "we're godlier than you are" BS, but I find it odd that they'd post this particular verse a week or so after the tabloid that's been busting them on the regular prints that Jim Boob and J-Chelle's marriage is dangling by a thread.

 

Again, that's my opinion, but I'm wondering what's up now.

 

Okay, see I'm baffled. This is the Duggar family blog, isn't it?

 

So you're thinking that the blog is written by and only from the point of view of some angry snarking female Duggar? And that she'd take the quote from the gospel of John, which is a very commonly used quote and clearly uses "He" to refer to God and "I" to mean everyChristian, to instead make some kind of nasty secret point about Jim Bob's ego? Wow. I can't see any of the Duggars being ironic enough, literary enough, subtle enough or publicly ungodly enough to do that. Not in a million years.

[queenanne]

The influence of God in my life must grow while my own selfishness must shrink, I think.

 

I really don't think this quote would relate to a marriage on the rocks, unless the Duggars really really really don't understand it. And I expect they do understand it, or at least know what sorts of occasions it's used for. As far as I know, it's a pretty common thought that generally expresses how Christians are to behave. I'm quite familiar with it, and I've been an atheist for decades! Pretty sure it's just one of the many we're-affirming-our-conviction-that-God-comes-first things that they quote.

 

I agree it's the equivalent of whatever that verse is, "The last shall be first and the first shall be last," "humble yourself in the sight of the Lord", etc.

 

Though otherwise and traditionally, I believe "increase" has been "increase your quiver", without mentioning quivers - if that made any sense.  I'm thinking specifically of Increase Mather.

[Churchhoney]

I agree it's the equivalent of whatever that verse is, "The last shall be first and the first shall be last," "humble yourself in the sight of the Lord", etc.

 

Though otherwise and traditionally, I believe "increase" has been "increase your quiver", without mentioning quivers - if that made any sense.  I'm thinking specifically of Increase Mather.

 

Yep, I agree that it's definitely got the quiver thing as one of the meanings, but not the only one -- and not in this quotation, right? Since the He in the quotation is God.

 

Says here that as a verb it tends to have the "ordinary meaning" -- 

 

For example --" International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

INCREASE

in'-kres, (noun), in-kres' (verb): Employed in the English Bible both as verb and as noun, and in both cases to represent a number of different words in the original. As a verb it is used in the ordinary sense of the term. As a noun it is usually used of plant life, or of the herds and flocks, to denote the fruitage or the offspring; more rarely of money, to denote the interest. As examples of the different terms translated by this word, students who read Hebrew or Greek may compare Deuteronomy 7:22 Proverbs 16:21 Job 10:16 the King James Version; Job 12:23 Numbers 18:30 Deuteronomy 7:13 Ezekiel 22:12 in the Old Testament, and John 3:30 1 Corinthians 3:6; Colossians 2:19 Ephesians 4:16 in the New Testament.

Russell Benjamin Miller"    http://biblehub.com/topical/i/increase.htm

Edited April 5, 2016 by Churchhoney

[queenanne]

Yeah I think I went backwards in my logic - tracing the name from some probably specious high school professor's, English (Crucible) or history (self explanatory) specious chitchat about the size of Puritans' families, lol.

[TessHarding2]

How did none of the teenage kids not go through the awful teen stage?  They'd be punished? The Bible readings help? I mean, hormones do happen for all of us.

[Sew Sumi]

They don't believe in adolescence, or the "teen years." They think these are early 20th century contrivances foisted upon people by evil liberals to excuse bad behavior. 

 

This is why the Duggars put their kids to work in Boob's businesses when they turn 12; hell, we just saw Justin "fixing" cars these past two episodes, and he's all of 13. They believe kids should be full household contributors by then. The breakdown is: <8, dependent; 8-11, half-dependent/half-contributor (Hannie and Jackson would be in this stage now); 12 and over: full contributors. Jackson will cross this threshhold next month. Heaven help them all. 

 

Boob has publicly spoken out against adolescence, who probably got most of his rhetoric from either Gothard and especially Doug Phillips, who had a LOT to say on the subject. 

[Missy Vixen]

So you're thinking that the blog is written by and only from the point of view of some angry snarking female Duggar? And that she'd take the quote from the gospel of John, which is a very commonly used quote and clearly uses "He" to refer to God and "I" to mean everyChristian, to instead make some kind of nasty secret point about Jim Bob's ego? .

No. I'm looking at it from the point of view that this is yet another smokescreen. And most of the Duggar family could not be accused of skimping on the ego.

 

There's another public figure who's fond of posting the "He shall increase, and I shall decrease" on social media to advertise piety in a don't-look-at-this, look over THERE! fashion.

[Absolom]

Jackson being twelve is something my mind can't grasp. 

[BitterApple]

Jackson being twelve is something my mind can't grasp.

I can't either. It's not like twelve year-old boys are pillars of maturity, but most of the ones I've known are light years ahead of Jackson. It's almost like he has some sort of weird Peter Pan syndrome and doesn't want to grow up. He's so babyish.

[cmr2014]

I was just thinking the same thing about Josie. In the real world Josie would be what - kindergarten, first grade? She acts like a toddler: sticking things in her mouth, crawling around on the floor, etc. The younger kids really are just feral.

[Gweilo]

...Which means that the younger kids are going to be the focus of the next "FU internetz!" episode.  Watch Josie clean counters with an actual cloth! Watch Michelle pretend to feed them a proper meal at an appropriate time!  Watch Josie walk upright!

[RazzleberryPie]

The influence of God in my life must grow while my own selfishness must shrink, I think.

I really don't think this quote would relate to a marriage on the rocks, unless the Duggars really really really don't understand it. And I expect they do understand it, or at least know what sorts of occasions it's used for. As far as I know, it's a pretty common thought that generally expresses how Christians are to behave. I'm quite familiar with it, and I've been an atheist for decades! Pretty sure it's just one of the many we're-affirming-our-conviction-that-God-comes-first things that they quote.

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Yeah I don't think this is a 'quiver' verse or anythjng to do with raising 100 kids. It's about being less selfish and decreasing our own wants and ideas, and increasing our behavior to reflect Christ's ideas and behaviors. It's a Jesus-Others-You verse. Christ's priorities are more important than ours. The Dugs and Co, and any of us, could benefit a lot more from being forgiving, gracious, compassionate, etc.

Also Jackson - he's puny in size, but that's just genetics. I have a feeling that between having a philandering father and being a puny kid himself JimBob overcompensated with this whole 'look at me, having 19 kids and being important in this cult makes me MANLY and moral!'

Jackson will grow physically. Now maturing mentally - they all seem stuck in some weird tween time warp.

[Churchhoney]

No. I'm looking at it from the point of view that this is yet another smokescreen. And most of the Duggar family could not be accused of skimping on the ego.

 

There's another public figure who's fond of posting the "He shall increase, and I shall decrease" on social media to advertise piety in a don't-look-at-this, look over THERE! fashion.

 

Oh, okay. Thanks. I misunderstood -- thought you were in the line of conversation that was finding a hidden headship-v-helpmeet implication secreted in the quote!

 

You do have more respect for Duggar IQs than I do, though, I think. I believe that they're actually so stupid and self-deluded that they don't even consciously know they need smokescreens. I see them as so dumb and self-deluded as to actually believe that they follow that quotation and the other biblical injunctions they love citing. But maybe you've got it right -- because, honestly, you wonder how anybody could be that dumb. .... I look at Jim Bob, though, and I've always seen a person who really thinks he really is one of God's right and chosen ones .... so, no smokescreens needed. 

[Churchhoney]

How did none of the teenage kids not go through the awful teen stage?  They'd be punished? The Bible readings help? I mean, hormones do happen for all of us.

 

If you've been locked up physically and mentally long enough and have enough spies in the household and massive enough explosions if you move a millimeter off the allowed line, you may just go through the teen years causing and experiencing a lot of external and internal rage and depression explosions (which they wouldn't show on tv) without actually doing much of the usual teenage stuff except what can be done by extreme stealth in a max-security prison -- like Josh's porn-watching on workplace computers. That's how it mostly worked in my household. And anybody in the Duggar household who let depression or rage or protest be detected apparently gets quickly shipped off to Alert or Journey to the Heart. Josh's teenage porn watching was one of the few truly normal things I've heard of a Duggar kid doing, I've always thought.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Churchhoney

[EAG46]

How can these....people...deny that the teenage years exist?   What do they hope to achieve by bottling up all of that curiosity?  I don't understand.  They want to bring back the good old days that never existed.  

[Missy Vixen]

EXACTLY. The world they imagine, the good old days of yester year, when men were in charge and women knew their place, and, so, all was right in the world, never really existed as a godly utopia as they like to believe. They are delusional. Oh, and, of course, dumb.

Bill Gothard (to my knowledge) has no children. He's never lived in a house with teenagers or knows the slightest thing about them. Of course he's a self-styled expert on how to raise a teen in the 1950's or so. (He's in his 80's; his heyday was the 40's and 50's.) There were no gay people, no black people (well, those who were accorded any kind of human rights at all) and certainly no women, other than those who took care of the house, raised the children, and greeted Daddy at the door each night with a newspaper and his slippers. During Gothard's utopia, women were property, domestic violence or abuse were things to be ignored or swept under the rug, sexual harassment and/or attack were rampant and only happened to those who "asked for it". Plus, everyone was an evangelical Christian in his world. Unfortunately for all of us, his fantasies of how things "used to be" gained a foothold with those who also couldn't handle a changing world and thought that if they sat on their kids hard enough, they'd never experience their own children thinking for themselves or rebelling. His "wisdom" has gifted all of us with hundreds of thousands of young adults around the country that are unable to fend for themselves in life. They weren't trusted with public education or any kind of freedom. The only reason why the Duggars (for instance) aren't living in that same three-bedroom house and continuing to take "love offerings" is because a TV producer believed a show about the two religiously insane weirdos and their fourteen kids would make people tune in to watch. TLC allowed the Duggars to conceal or lie about their lifestyle, including their affiliation with Gothard and his organization. They painted them as a harmless, wholesome family and covered up the things the viewing audience should have been shown -- the fact most of the kids are functionally illiterate. (Go ahead, J-Chelle. Prove me wrong.) Their extreme and harmful (blanket training, anyone?) religious beliefs. Their far-right-wing politics, with heavy emphasis on homophobia. The fact their eldest son repeatedly molested four of their daughters. (Word to Nancy: I've done more of a background check on someone who wanted to walk our dog.) The reality that nine of their nineteen children are adults, still living at home and not encouraged to attend an accredited college, get a job (well, it seems JD has a job) and take any steps toward independence.

 

Back to my point, and I do have one: What parent in their right minds would want to raise a child (or children!) that was so damaged and hobbled from their religious beliefs that he or she was not able to function in the outside world without them?

Edited April 7, 2016 by Missy Vixen

[Missy Vixen]

How can these....people...deny that the teenage years exist?   

They had their fun. Nobody else better have any!

 

Signed, Jim Boob and J-Chelle Duggar

[Churchhoney]

 

 

Back to my point, and I do have one: What parent in their right minds would want to raise a child (or children!) that was so damaged and hobbled from their religious beliefs that he or she was not able to function in the outside world without them?

 

I'd call your point the main point of the whole thing, really.

 

A parent in his or her right mind wouldn't do this. But a parent with a severe personality disorder? -- You betcha. A parent with a severe personality disorder is all about doing this.

[TessHarding2]

If you've been locked up physically and mentally long enough and have enough spies in the household and massive enough explosions if you move a millimeter off the allowed line, you may just go through the teen years causing and experiencing a lot of external and internal rage and depression explosions (which they wouldn't show on tv) without actually doing much of the usual teenage stuff except what can be done by extreme stealth in a max-security prison -- like Josh's porn-watching on workplace computers. That's how it mostly worked in my household. And anybody in the Duggar household who let depression or rage or protest be detected apparently gets quickly shipped off to Alert or Journey to the Heart. Josh's teenage porn watching was one of the few truly normal things I've heard of a Duggar kid doing, I've always thought.

 

I liked your explanation.  I guess it's all about punishment and faux forgiveness.  I remember an old episode (I can't recall in full detail) with Jessa and Jana and a jewelry box.  They weren't little children.  The folks should have stayed out of it and let them work it out between themselves.  Oh wait.  They wouldn't have learned a lesson just between siblings.

[queenanne]

How can these....people...deny that the teenage years exist?   What do they hope to achieve by bottling up all of that curiosity?  

 

I assume denying that pubertal changes and hormones exist; thus "never have to worry" about the rugrats developing into semi-adult sexual beings by honest and sincere means.

 

Also, they think if it doesn't exist they can quash healthy curiosity.  If you never have rebellious years, you''ll never want to leave home, or have the all-important and necessary to the process of becoming your own adult person, parental separation.  Even if they simply want never to have any public squabbles that might have people thinking the teens "don't want to be with them".  Such behavior usually only focused to make me more angry, so I don't know how they imagine it would work.

 

They're getting exactly what they want IMO - timid kids who would stay at home until they were forty.

[GeeGolly]

I assume denying that pubertal changes and hormones exist; thus "never have to worry" about the rugrats developing into semi-adult sexual beings by honest and sincere means.

 

Also, they think if it doesn't exist they can quash healthy curiosity.  If you never have rebellious years, you''ll never want to leave home, or have the all-important and necessary to the process of becoming your own adult person, parental separation.  Even if they simply want never to have any public squabbles that might have people thinking the teens "don't want to be with them".  Such behavior usually only focused to make me more angry, so I don't know how they imagine it would work.

 

They're getting exactly what they want IMO - timid kids who would stay at home until they were forty.

I so wonder what the Duggars consider an adolescent transgression. Might it be a Duggar boy mentioning that they woke up with an erection during one of their sharing of the heart confessions? Or saying they want to live in a city?

 

And I agree the parents are going to have their kids fearing the world as they try & pray away their natural curiosity. And I wonder what is does to their mental health when they're told their feelings are wrong or sinful. Do they start to suppress them? Because that is a recipe for disaster.

[Missy Vixen]

 

And I agree the parents are going to have their kids fearing the world as they try & pray away their natural curiosity. And I wonder what is does to their mental health when they're told their feelings are wrong or sinful. Do they start to suppress them? Because that is a recipe for disaster.

They get married at 20 to a man (or woman) they really don't know, pop out a child in nine months, and act out.

 

IMHO of course.

[TessHarding2]

I was also thinking along the lines of sibling rivalry, the daily antagonizing, teasing, fighting over stupid things and then making up the way brothers and sisters do until it happens all over again.  I don't have siblings but of course my friends did, so even though I didn't experience it, I get the dynamic. Nobody feels loving every day.  Sometimes you want to bash your brother's head in - is it that this has never been shown on camera, or are they conditioned to pray on it till it goes away?

[Micks Picks]

From what I've seen, they are not allowed to bash or complain about siblings.  There is the famous Jana story of her complaining to her mom about Jessa kicking her bunk and Michele telling Jana to give Jessa her music box.  Gee, thanks Ma.  The kid's a brat and I've got to reward her with my most treasured of my few possessions.

 

Michele has been shown correcting a few kids, including Miracle Josie, for thinking it was always her turn in some game.  Josie was only 3 or 4 so probably didn't get the concept of taking turns, but whatever.  I don't think that kid will get much of an idea about anything..

[kokapetl]

Justin doesn't conceal his dislike of Jackson.

[TessHarding2]

I'm not a food snob, I'm really not. But I was just reading some variations of ttc and found one frequently adds both catsup and velveeta cheese to the cream of mushroom soup and now I'm feeling a little ill. 

 

I clicked on the beginning of this thread instead of the last page where I found this.  However, I'll deny I ever reading about this delicacy.  I'll deny it all!

From what I've seen, they are not allowed to bash or complain about siblings.  There is the famous Jana story of her complaining to her mom about Jessa kicking her bunk and Michele telling Jana to give Jessa her music box.  Gee, thanks Ma.  The kid's a brat and I've got to reward her with my most treasured of my few possessions.

 

Michele has been shown correcting a few kids, including Miracle Josie, for thinking it was always her turn in some game.  Josie was only 3 or 4 so probably didn't get the concept of taking turns, but whatever.  I don't think that kid will get much of an idea about anything..

 

Thanks, that's the story where I couldn't remember the facts.  

Edited April 9, 2016 by TessHarding2

[SometimesBites]

I still can't get over how nice all the mods are here. Quite a change from TWoP.

Boy howdy.

[Barb23]

I liked your explanation.  I guess it's all about punishment and faux forgiveness.  I remember an old episode (I can't recall in full detail) with Jessa and Jana and a jewelry box.  They weren't little children.  The folks should have stayed out of it and let them work it out between themselves.  Oh wait.  They wouldn't have learned a lesson just between siblings.

IIRC, the jewelry box incident happened when they were young but Jana was retelling the story during a girl's conference when they were older & that's what we saw on the show. Boob & MEchelle came into the conference & saw that Jana was in tears telling the story. It was like a lightbulb going off in their heads that they never realized before how much this incident had upset Jana. Why are we not surprised?

I was also thinking along the lines of sibling rivalry, the daily antagonizing, teasing, fighting over stupid things and then making up the way brothers and sisters do until it happens all over again.  I don't have siblings but of course my friends did, so even though I didn't experience it, I get the dynamic. Nobody feels loving every day.  Sometimes you want to bash your brother's head in - is it that this has never been shown on camera, or are they conditioned to pray on it till it goes away?

Exactly! My sister has only seen a few of the Duggar's first episodes. Even then she realized something was "off" about the kids cuz they never fought like real siblings & always got along. Even in the new show when the older boys were asked who was better cook of the girls (or something like that), we had to hear the usual "they all are good cooks" to keep everyone happy. Why can't they just be honest & name the one who is?

[MunichNark]

I've been wondering every now and then why those fundie boys always seem to be so effimate. They blather on and on about being manly, but most look and act very girlish. The Bates boys, except Lawson, are the only ones who are anywhere near being "manly". Even Chad I find quite girly, he is sooo touchy feely and over eager to please Erin.

 

There are only 2 kinds of men in the fundie world - really girly ones who can be ordered about or the nasty control freaks. Do they not have any middle ground?

[BitterApple]

I've been wondering every now and then why those fundie boys always seem to be so effimate. They blather on and on about being manly, but most look and act very girlish. The Bates boys, except Lawson, are the only ones who are anywhere near being "manly". Even Chad I find quite girly, he is sooo touchy feely and over eager to please Erin.

There are only 2 kinds of men in the fundie world - really girly ones who can be ordered about or the nasty control freaks. Do they not have any middle ground?

I'd say the middle ground types are few and far between. I think Zach Bates probably falls into that category, and possibly Bin as well. But you're right, the majority of Fundies are beta males.

[MunichNark]

I'd agree about Zach Bates, he seems nice without being girly. Bin????? He's a dope. I do wonder if he doesn't explode one day, when he's had enough

[Celia Rubenstein]

 And I agree the parents are going to have their kids fearing the world as they try & pray away their natural curiosity. And I wonder what is does to their mental health when they're told their feelings are wrong or sinful. Do they start to suppress them? Because that is a recipe for disaster.

Exhibit A: Josh Duggar

[Mollie]

Bin????? He's a dope. I do wonder if he doesn't explode one day, when he's had enough

I think Ben is getting exactly what he wants from the marriage:  a ticket to fundie fame and glory.  He gets to be on TV, pretend to be a rap star, try to develop a following on social media and YouTube.  Plus, he gets a Duggar house to live in and cars to drive.  Without being married to Jessa, he is/has nothing and he is bound to know that by now.  No one hires Ben to come solo for a speaking engagement, and they probably never will.

[Tabbygirl521]

How can these....people...deny that the teenage years exist? What do they hope to achieve by bottling up all of that curiosity? I don't understand. They want to bring back the good old days that never existed.

What I can't understand is the idea of denying the existence of adolescence, but continuing to treat offspring as children until well after they are adults in the eyes of society. Even when the "children" marry and slip somewhat off parental leashes, they continue to kowtow to external authority figures.

[Aja]

I think it's much more difficult to find an example of their actions being consistent with their purported belief system than inconsistencies, which seems to be the rock their house is built on.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Aja

[riverblue22]

Add to that their modesty rules.  Jessa said they covered themselves from neck to knee, but I have seen plenty of collarbones and scoop neck shirts on all of those girls.  And sometimes they barely cover their shoulders.  In fact those cap sleeves just draw attention to their forbidden shoulders.

[EAG46]

How are skin-tight long sleeved blouses and full-length skirts more modest than loose fitting shirts and pants?   Women from regions of India and Pakistan wear lovely outfits of loose-fitting tunics and trousers that are quite modest.  1850's feminist Amelia Bloomer pioneered dress reform with a similar fashion to save women from layers of petticoats and corsets.   No one would think they are defrauding anyone.  And another thing: Why can't these women wear decent shoes?   Even cheap-ass Keds knockoffs would be an improvement.

 

Edit to add:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bloomers#/media/File:Amelia_Bloomer.jpg   <--- in case someone wondered what Ms. Bloomer's outfit looked like.

Edited April 14, 2016 by EAG46

[louannems]

http://www.dillardfamily.com/index.cfm?p=blog&id=16FEA5A5-89B6-4C45-A11D-40A7D4B35825

Oh dear lord, the chicken etti recipe is being reposted!

[GeeGolly]

http://www.dillardfamily.com/index.cfm?p=blog&id=16FEA5A5-89B6-4C45-A11D-40A7D4B35825

Oh dear lord, the chicken etti recipe is being reposted!

I'm hungry, and to me that looks yummy.

 

ETA: What ingredients would Mama C need to bring? 

Edited April 11, 2016 by GeeGolly

[3girlsforus]

http://www.dillardfamily.com/index.cfm?p=blog&id=16FEA5A5-89B6-4C45-A11D-40A7D4B35825

Oh dear lord, the chicken etti recipe is being reposted!

That doesn't look so bad. I know lots of people who make various baked pasta dishes with similar ingredients.

[JoanArc]

Jesus Jill, you're walking distance to Walmart. They have all that stuff, even in Danger America.

[louannems]

That doesn't look so bad. I know lots of people who make various baked pasta dishes with similar ingredients.

Of course! I make baked pasta dishes, too, and often! I just never thought it post worthy.

[lookeyloo]

There's no chicken in it.