Finals, Training Camp and Social Media

[CaseyRe]

3 minutes ago, sATL said:

 

What VK is too young or stubborn to recognize is that she is just a TCC. Replaceable. Easier to get rid of than to keep you. Momma/Daddy can't help you here.

Jinelle is a retired 5 (or was it 6) year vet. Steller person in terms of character. Still on the DCC payroll.  Hell, one phone call from K&J, she will be on the field Sunday afternoon.

LIterally nobody but another DCC is going to know what its like to try to maintain the required DCC size, with the sort of schedule the girls keep, under the pressure they are under, with the sort of physical demands.  The majority of those women are never going to have had weight problems.  I'd rather have advice from a someone who'd been in the exact same position as me and made it work for 5 years and clearly didn't just gain weight the moment she retired, who lives a healthy lifestyle not a DCC starvation diet, than someone who'd struggled with weight but never danced or never been on a pro squad of any kind or athletic background at all.  I don't get the anti-Jinelle helping her out thing AT ALL.  Jinelle is sweet, smart, kind, compassionate and knows a LOT about how to live a healthy lifestyle. we don't know her family. we don't know if members of her family have a weight issue and that's why she makes sure to stay healthy. maybe she was raised to be healthy in which case she's got years of knowledge to impart, within the context of being a DCC.  way more useful for me than someone that'd had weight issues but no idea what the demands  placed of a DCC's body, both physically and by the organisation, are.

1 minute ago, jlc said:

YES! Her hair looked awesome in the talking head, but she is looking like her medication needs to be reworked!

One minute in the ep, Kelli is all 'I don't always agree with Kitty' and then the next she's practically worshipping at the altar or useless statements like 'being pretty isn't enough'.  I genuinely don't think she trusts her gut anymore, perhaps after last yer, and she's rattled.  she''s lost her nerve and now just takes advice from everyone around her without putting it through a filter first.

[KatherineB]

10 hours ago, UnicornSparkles said:

Ohh sorry, I misunderstood your comment.  I thought you meant this is her first year on the team not that she got 15/15 her first year on the team.

15/15? What is that?

[CaseyRe]

Just now, KatherineB said:

15/15? What is that?

I think its that every judge had her as a 'yes'

[Jess14]

46 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Umm...I can't believe how someone can't see how toxic ratting on teammates would be?

In fairness, if you read the rest of the sentence (that was not bolded), the poster is calling into question the very proposition that VK ratted out Madeline in the first place, not suggesting that it’s ok.

I agree that’s it’s toxic to rat out teammates though. I’m not sure Kelli agrees with that though.

Edited September 28, 2018 by Jess14
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[MrsEVH]

28 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

After what happened with Olivia and Cassie, I think Judy, Kelli and Charlotte can be a little too blind to toxic ratting out others. Kelli likes girls who are willing to rat out others to save their DCC bacon. You would think after what happened last year with Jenna/Holly/Erica would have taught them something, but it obviously did not.

There's managers/supervisors in the workplace who love staff that rat other staff out. We had one where I work. Thank god she transferred to another part of the hospital and we don't have to deal with her anymore.

[go4luca]

4 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

In fairness, if you read the rest of the sentence (that was not bolded), the poster is calling into question the very proposition that VK ratted out Madeline in the first place, not suggesting that it’s ok.

I agree that’s it’s toxic to rat out teammates though. I’m not sure Kelli agrees with that though.

Completely get what you're saying but the OP did say: "So she ratted on Madeline the very first night of TC for changing her locker" and that is what I was responding to.  It read to me like "so what if she did?".  I detest ratting for personal gain and that is how I interpreted the statement.  If I misunderstood, then my bad.

[KatherineB]

2 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

There's managers/supervisors in the workplace who love staff that rat other staff out. We had one where I work. Thank god she transferred to another part of the hospital and we don't have to deal with her anymore.

Oh, I worked with someone who also loved to rat out other employees while she was kissing up to the manager of the department and what really sucked was that the manager LOVED this!  She seemed to thrive on getting dirt on others, especially her own staff members and she had the girl to do it for her! Only thing I can say about people like that is what goes around, comes around and the fallout from that is not pleasant.

[Jess14]

2 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Completely get what you're saying but the OP did say: "So she ratted on Madeline the very first night of TC for changing her locker" and that is what I was responding to.  It read to me like "so what if she did?".  I detest ratting for personal gain and that is how I interpreted the statement.  If I misunderstood, then my bad.

Yeah, but the rest of the sentence was “even though Kelli specifically said in the interview the she, Kelli, noticed it right after she did it?” I read that as “how can VK rat Madeline out for something that Kelli herself noticed when it happened?” I may be reading it wrong though lol. To be clear though, I can buy that VK did tell on Madeline, and I can also buy that Kelli specifically ellicited information from VK about the other TCCs. Some supervisors always make it a habit to have little “spies” in each department who give them information on everyone else. I could see that with Kelli honestly.

[bigskygirl]

I wonder if Kelli and Charlotte were starting to feel the pressure because was it in July when the Erica lawsuit came a calling, the toxic situation last year with Erica/Holly/Jenna, fans and viewers and fans starting to put what is really going on with Victoria together, and dealing with Victoria and Tina. I cannot imagine how stressful it was for the vets and TC Candidates. I would have found a way to get cut and get out of DCC Land fast because it would not be worth all of the crap to be a DCC.

Edited September 28, 2018 by bigskygirl

[Tuxcat]

In the clip with VK and Jinelle, VK is looking really pretty. I can't figure out the difference. Her face looks slimmer? Did she lose some of the weight? Change  her makeup? This pic isn't the best because I had to reduce the resolution so much but I can still a slimness there I think?

Also, Don't get me wrong, Kelli is a gorgeous woman and always looks great. But her dresses are sometimes too tight and the one next week is too low cut. I don't understand why she doesn't dress more comfortably for Texas outside weather on a football field. She always seems so out of place -- you know she's got layers of Spanx under there. 

[heckkitty]

3 hours ago, Christineelgene said:

Today is my 70th birthday and the picture here was taken a couple months ago and has not been filtered.  I’ll go up against TK any day.  Secret is good genes, great skincare, and plenty of sunblock.

happy birthday!  You look amazing!

[CaseyRe]

3 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

In the clip with VK and Jinelle, VK is looking really pretty. I can't figure out the difference. Her face looks slimmer? Did she lose some of the weight? Change  her makeup? This pic isn't the best because I had to reduce the resolution so much but I can still a slimness there I think?

Also, Don't get me wrong, Kelli is a gorgeous woman and always looks great. But her dresses are sometimes too tight and the one next week is too low cut. I don't understand why she doesn't dress more comfortably for Texas outside weather on a football field. She always seems so out of place -- you know she's got layers of Spanx under there. 

I cannot imagine how hot she is when they're outside when she's wearing spanx. because of the spinal damage by walking is messed up and im more prone to shin splints and so I wear compression sleeves on my calves. they're unbearably  hot in summer, and when I have to wear compression socks over the top....oh so hot

[cfinboston]

10 minutes ago, KatherineB said:

Oh, I worked with someone who also loved to rat out other employees while she was kissing up to the manager of the department and what really sucked was that the manager LOVED this!  She seemed to thrive on getting dirt on others, especially her own staff members and she had the girl to do it for her! Only thing I can say about people like that is what goes around, comes around and the fallout from that is not pleasant.

I worked with one as well. General Manager thrived on having employees gossip and trash talk other employees. She'd even issue write ups based on what she was told by her little elves. GM was a hot mess and eventually left, but not before jobs and mental health were badly harmed. 

[go4luca]

12 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Yeah, but the rest of the sentence was “even though Kelli specifically said in the interview the she, Kelli, noticed it right after she did it?” I read that as “how can VK rat Madeline out for something that Kelli herself noticed when it happened?” I may be reading it wrong though lol. To be clear though, I can buy that VK did tell on Madeline, and I can also buy that Kelli specifically ellicited information from VK about the other TCCs. Some supervisors always make it a habit to have little “spies” in each department who give them information on everyone else. I could see that with Kelli honestly.

I guess we both interpret this differently and that's okay.  No worries.

[beagledog100]

Was there some fall out with Sydney Durso and Madeline Molloy? 

[heckkitty]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the scene with VK and Jinelle will be edited so that it looks like she's  being sweet/complementary to Jinnelle, that the crying is just her talking about how very hard it is, that the "we think you're not ready" is not directed at her meaning (*double checks to make sure this is the spoiler thread*) they don't show her cut early or out of order, and she comes out smelling like a rose (at least to TPTB).

[ElenaFR]

Dang, the make up on VK ages her.  She looks well over 19 and not in a good way. Someone show them how to do a young fresh look.  

Also watched Season 8, wonder where that Kitty has gone. She was calling people out for weight. She was not nice to Danielle. 

Jinelle was a cutie even back then. The Hair guy said she was adorable.

[Jennv]

The thing that VK doesn't seem to grasp is that sometimes you just have to do what your boss tells you to do, period. Especially here, because she is still interviewing for the job. The boss wants you to lose weight and has assigned another employee to assist you. It doesn't matter that you don't think what that employee advises will work, YOU DO IT ANYWAY. If you don't do it, and you don't lose weight, the boss will automatically say "well you refused to do what we told you"and then you are screwed. You look like you refuse to be a team player,insubordination etc, If you do exactly what Jinelle tells you and it does not work, at least you can then say "I did exactly as I was told and it didn't work, now what? I am sure its immaturity and entitlement that keeps her from seeing this.

[sATL]

1 minute ago, CaseyRe said:

I cannot imagine how hot she is when they're outside when she's wearing spanx. because of the spinal damage by walking is messed up and im more prone to shin splints and so I wear compression sleeves on my calves. they're unbearably  hot in summer, and when I have to wear compression socks over the top....oh so hot

I thought she was dressed a little "warm" for Texas in what July - is 5 weeks in to camp? I saw her hair move with the breeze to at first I was thinking maybe it was overcast, or just after a rain. I know she wants to look professional all of the time, but it was making me warm just looking at her  . I thought in years past she had a looser fitting strapless maxi dress  for when they go outside. or maybe that was Judy...

[CaseyRe]

1 minute ago, ElenaFR said:

Dang, the make up on VK ages her.  She looks well over 19 and not in a good way. Someone show them how to do a young fresh look.  

Also watched Season 8, wonder where that Kitty has gone. She was calling people out for weight. She was not nice to Danielle. 

Jinelle was a cutie even back then. The Hair guy said she was adorable.

They're allll so aged by the makeup. I think a few always manage to still look fresh even with full coverage foundation (Jinelle, Lauren, Dayton to name a few), clearly they know their application and how to use damn setting spray to quell the cake face, but the sheer amount of makeup they wear is just sooooo aging. half the itme it looks an inch thick and Im always shocked when someone says 'oh so and so is only 22' and Im like 'damnnnnn they look straight up 30 just because of the makeup. if I wore that much makeup at 18 my dad would hav murdered me

[nittanyvolleyball]

I wanted to know what Dayton used as foundation last week cause her freckles came through and she just looked so fresh and pretty

[CaseyRe]

2 minutes ago, sATL said:

I thought she was dressed a little "warm" for Texas in what July - is 5 weeks in to camp? I saw her hair move with the breeze to at first I was thinking maybe it was overcast, or just after a rain. I know she wants to look professional all of the time, but it was making me warm just looking at her  . I thought in years past she had a looser fitting strapless maxi dress  for when they go outside. or maybe that was Judy...

Definitely Kelli too. Judy tends towards kinda loose flow-y blouses from what I recall when out on the field, somwething light that will allow a breeze, and generally Kelli will have a looser maxi dress. often spaghetti straps and wedge sandals(I notice shoes, its a problem!!!) so she's got her feet exposed to some air (a really fast way to cool down is to remove shoes/socks so that'll help keep her cool alongisde the dress, but this year, given it would have been super end of July beginning of august, I was surprised to see her outside for do long in something like she was wearing. i'd have been sweating buckets and uncomfortable as hell

[blairwaldorf]

I think Victoria is pretty. IMO she looks better with more natural, toned down makeup. I feel like the heavy makeup ages her. 

I wonder if Shelly or Judy could move into Kelli's position. I actually think Shelly would be good. She's a DCC alum and she is already employed by DCC, so it would just be moving into a different role. I liked her in the brief segments we saw where she was helping Dayton. She looks like she would be a very hands on director who could strike a good balance of constructive criticism and approachability.

[CaseyRe]

Just now, nittanyvolleyball said:

I wanted to know what Dayton used as foundation last week cause her freckles came through and she just looked so fresh and pretty

she looked to have pretty good skin so probably erred toward a medium, or full-light coverage foundation which gave her a flawless finish but kept the super cute freckles

[Tuxcat]

9 minutes ago, beagledog100 said:

Was there some fall out with Sydney Durso and Madeline Molloy? 

What makes you think so? 

They are heavily featured on Instagram together. Did something happen?

[KatherineB]

9 minutes ago, beagledog100 said:

Was there some fall out with Sydney Durso and Madeline Molloy? 

I was shocked when Sydney left to be on the Mavericks dance team.  That was weird.  But, I've tried to find something on this, but does anyone know what happened between K&J and Mackenzi Swicegood?  Seems like I remember there was a lot of bad blood following that.

[bigskygirl]

6 minutes ago, heckkitty said:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the scene with VK and Jinelle will be edited so that it looks like she's  being sweet/complementary to Jinnelle, that the crying is just her talking about how very hard it is, that the "we think you're not ready" is not directed at her meaning (*double checks to make sure this is the spoiler thread*) they don't show her cut early or out of order, and she comes out smelling like a rose (at least to TPTB).

Victoria was probably called out for not working with Jinelle at all. Yes, I know Jinelle may not understand the weight gain going on, but at least she was willing to work with her in the first place. Plus the fact Jinelle may not have wanted to work with Victoria in the first place either (works both ways Victoria.) If she did not feel Jinelle could help her then she could have went to Jay or one of the nutritionist at The Star to help her out. The ball was in her court, and she just left the ball sitting there.

8 minutes ago, ElenaFR said:

Dang, the make up on VK ages her.  She looks well over 19 and not in a good way. Someone show them how to do a young fresh look.  

Also watched Season 8, wonder where that Kitty has gone. She was calling people out for weight. She was not nice to Danielle. 

Jinelle was a cutie even back then. The Hair guy said she was adorable.

In the case of Danielle, I can see why Miss Kitty called her out. She was brought back to TC after the judges voted no she did not deserve to come back. Kelli and Charlotte decided to reverse the judges' decisions, and Kelli told her to bust her behind getting back in shape. I bet dollars to donuts she was running around with Chesley on the weekends partying and not working out. I often wonder if Charlotte wanted to cut her, but Kelli was able to convince her to keep Danielle on the team.

[go4luca]

I didn't initially bring this up but man, it has been bugging me ever since. 

VK's reaction when Kelli brought up (in a fairly gentle manner by Kelli standards) her 11lb weight gain will forever bother me.  The way VK said "um hmm" and this reaction came off kind of snotty to me.  Did anyone else get this feeling?  I'm sure it wasn't fun to hear but I doubt most girls would have responded in this manner.  Guess this is due to her familiarity with Kelli.  *shrug*

[Jennv]

1 minute ago, go4luca said:

I didn't initially bring this up but man, it has been bugging me ever since. 

VK's reaction when Kelli brought up (in a fairly gentle manner by Kelli standards) her 11lb weight gain will forever bother me.  The way VK said "um hmm" and this reaction came off kind of snotty to me.  Did anyone else get this feeling?  I'm sure it wasn't fun to hear but I doubt most girls would have responded in this manner.  Guess this is due to her familiarity with Kelli.  *shrug*

I thought she seemed completely caught off guard. Like she was thinking "shit, this isn't what we rehearsed!"

[Jessinvirginia]

2 hours ago, Holly85 said:

If you wanna watch last nights episode I can send you the link the watch it 

Yes please!!! I’ve been waiting all day for Amazon to get it’s act together!!

[go4luca]

3 minutes ago, Jennv said:

I thought she seemed completely caught off guard. Like she was thinking "shit, this isn't what we rehearsed!"

HA!  Could be!

[Jessinvirginia]

1 hour ago, Holly85 said:

Sent 

Oh please me too!!! I’m embarrassed by how distracted I’ve been today without my fix!

[CaseyRe]

7 minutes ago, go4luca said:

I didn't initially bring this up but man, it has been bugging me ever since. 

VK's reaction when Kelli brought up (in a fairly gentle manner by Kelli standards) her 11lb weight gain will forever bother me.  The way VK said "um hmm" and this reaction came off kind of snotty to me.  Did anyone else get this feeling?  I'm sure it wasn't fun to hear but I doubt most girls would have responded in this manner.  Guess this is due to her familiarity with Kelli.  *shrug*

to me it felt like she thought it was utterly inconsequential because she totally had a spot ont he team and so why was Kelli even bringing up something so trivial. like 'yeah, but so what ?"

[Loves2Dance]

49 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Yeah, but the rest of the sentence was “even though Kelli specifically said in the interview the she, Kelli, noticed it right after she did it?” I read that as “how can VK rat Madeline out for something that Kelli herself noticed when it happened?” I may be reading it wrong though lol. To be clear though, I can buy that VK did tell on Madeline, and I can also buy that Kelli specifically ellicited information from VK about the other TCCs. Some supervisors always make it a habit to have little “spies” in each department who give them information on everyone else. I could see that with Kelli honestly.

I see it as more, Kelli noticed it but didn't think much of it until VK blew it up as a big deal. 

 

39 minutes ago, nittanyvolleyball said:

I'm in the minority who thinks she looks beautiful all the time. It's not her face that's ugly, it's her personality and some people take it to the extreme and make fun of her appearance

I absolutely hate Victoria, but I fully accept that she is very 80's glam. I think Vicky is a gorgeous girl who fits the DCC mold of appearance, it's everything else and her weight that is the issue. 

 

28 minutes ago, blairwaldorf said:

I think Victoria is pretty. IMO she looks better with more natural, toned down makeup. I feel like the heavy makeup ages her. 

I wonder if Shelly or Judy could move into Kelli's position. I actually think Shelly would be good. She's a DCC alum and she is already employed by DCC, so it would just be moving into a different role. I liked her in the brief segments we saw where she was helping Dayton. She looks like she would be a very hands on director who could strike a good balance of constructive criticism and approachability.

Shelly is a choroegrapher, I'd think she'd replace Judy over Kelli. 

[RedDelicious]

45 minutes ago, nittanyvolleyball said:

I'm in the minority who thinks she looks beautiful all the time. It's not her face that's ugly, it's her personality and some people take it to the extreme and make fun of her appearance

I love her eye makeup in that photo. 

[beagledog100]

43 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

What makes you think so? 

They are heavily featured on Instagram together. Did something happen?

This was posted in the S13.E09 Field of Fears thread (sorry, i don't know how to quote a post from another thread):

Sydney has been one of my favorite DCCs always. Her rookie year was the first season I watched, and she was just the cutest little thing and I couldn't help rooting for her from the start of training camp. So, I had been eyeballing the Sydney-Madeline breakup for a while with the basic thought that, Sydney is my girl, and I bet she gave M so much support and advice after she got cut, so I'm all about, what did Madeline do? She seemed quite immature last year, and as I've noted before, she also seems (to me, anyway) rather sheltered and privileged, so just because she looks and dancers a bit older this year doesn't mean that she's miraculously grown up. 

 

I should have asked in that thread, but this thread seems to know all the good info :)

Edited September 28, 2018 by beagledog100

[Holly85]

27 minutes ago, Jessinvirginia said:

Oh please me too!!! I’m embarrassed by how distracted I’ve been today without my fix!

Sent I’m sorry took me so long I was driving 

[Glamourdoll]

I am over this show, but this forum is my everything!

I would like to see the DCC be a little more up to date. You don't have to make extreme changes to make them a little more, I dunno NOW. (sorry head cold, words not my friend). I just feel the team could be a little more dynamic and pow. They seem weighed down in their own history.  For example, tweak the uniform, update the choreography, have a more realistic body image for your team...lots of options. You can't remain "World Class" resting on your legacy. 

Also, I would drive to Dallas just to have drinks with Shelly and Judy. LOVE THEM!

[JerseyGirl]

The show is STILL not up on Amazon or iTunes?!?!?

Is that a bit odd?

[viccib]

did anyone else notice that this is the most we have heard from Judy???? next weeks episode will be interesting, wonder if she will say anything then?

[bigskygirl]

1 minute ago, Glamourdoll said:

I am over this show, but this forum is my everything!

I would like to see the DCC be a little more up to date. You don't have to make extreme changes to make them a little more, I dunno NOW. (sorry head cold, words not my friend). I just feel the team could be a little more dynamic and pow. They seem weighed down in their own history.  For example, tweak the uniform, update the choreography, have a more realistic body image for your team...lots of options. You can't remain "World Class" resting on your legacy. 

Also, I would drive to Dallas just to have drinks with Shelly and Judy. LOVE THEM!

Was Rachel the one who said all routines seem the same. If it was her, good for her for saying it.

[Holly85]

Just now, JerseyGirl said:

The show is STILL not up on Amazon or iTunes?!?!?

Is that a bit odd?

Yes it is odd usually it’s up by 6am the next day 

[SmpIsimon]

3 minutes ago, JerseyGirl said:

The show is STILL not up on Amazon or iTunes?!?!?

Is that a bit odd?

I don't know if it has anything to do with the delay (probably not), but apparently the Kalina's were NOT happy with the previews for next week that were shown last night.  They expected certain things to not be shown . . .  

[scorpio1031]

2 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Yes it is odd usually it’s up by 6am the next day 

It's been late the past few weeks on Amazon.

[DCCme]

Watching this weeks episode and I’m now beginning to believe the reason the swimsuits and cameo pictures were all so bad is that what we have is a collective eyesight problem.  It started a few episodes ago with “who is that” in the studio and now it’s “this  brunette whoever that is?”  “Is that Brennan I’m watching? Whoever it is they’re hitting it”

[bigskygirl]

1 minute ago, SmpIsimon said:

I don't know if it has anything to do with the delay (probably not), but apparently the Kalina's were NOT happy with the previews for next week that were shown last night.  They expected certain things to not be shown . . .  

*thud* Hmmm... I am not surprised at all if this is true!

[DCCme]

5 minutes ago, JerseyGirl said:

The show is STILL not up on Amazon or iTunes?!?!?

Is that a bit odd?

Yes!

[scorpio1031]

4 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

I don't know if it has anything to do with the delay (probably not), but apparently the Kalina's were NOT happy with the previews for next week that were shown last night.  They expected certain things to not be shown . . .  

Yeah, someone else made a comment about the editing.  It's recorded on DVR's, was on CMT.com already last night, on YouTube.....to go in and redo a show that has already been seen, that is way too much money.  And for what, a less than 10 second blip at the end?  

Edited September 28, 2018 by scorpio1031

[JerseyGirl]

The description for next week's show is:

 

Candidates take their publicity photo. Being photogenic is a must. You either take a good photo or not. Kelli puts the ladies through media training.

 

http://www.cmt.com/shows/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-making-the-team/tv-schedule

[CaseyRe]

10 minutes ago, Glamourdoll said:

I am over this show, but this forum is my everything!

I would like to see the DCC be a little more up to date. You don't have to make extreme changes to make them a little more, I dunno NOW. (sorry head cold, words not my friend). I just feel the team could be a little more dynamic and pow. They seem weighed down in their own history.  For example, tweak the uniform, update the choreography, have a more realistic body image for your team...lots of options. You can't remain "World Class" resting on your legacy. 

Also, I would drive to Dallas just to have drinks with Shelly and Judy. LOVE THEM!

I always find it funny when a judge says that someone looks dated on the show because they all do! they're all behind the times in terms of look. it mostly works for them but its still dated