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57 minutes ago, CPA1967 said:

I’m just going to leave this here for Kelli and Kitty to see what we are seeing each week.  This girl deserves better than being set up for failure and criticism because her mom and best friend want to continue to relive their glory DCC days through VK. She needs to be told the truth and get some help realizing there is more in the world than being a DCC. just my two cents worth. 

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One more for good measure. She is twice the size of Jaylyn. 

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WOW

9 minutes ago, Pebbles116 said:

If she's "obese" I want to be obese like her. Yes, she is big for DCC. But obese? No.

Same.

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12 minutes ago, JennieM said:

Oh wow are these for real/unedited??? If so, that's not even DCC "heavy", that's actually obese (or would have been a few decades ago before the whole world got really big). But anyway it's fat by normal standards (definitely beyond what's healthy for an 18 year old), that's shockingly fat for DCC. It's embarrassing. You can't even blame the second picture on angles. How the other girls on weight warning must feel to have to look at that every practice! 

That's more than 11 pounds. Such liars.

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I have to say after watching the ep, I am beginning to believe the conspiracy about Tara.Her Office visit seemed odd, she looked like she was laughing through her critics.  

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58 minutes ago, pizzaandcatsrlife said:

There is no thyroid disorder.  It’s called being an 18 year old privileged, immature, brat who had bitten the hand that fed her. #endofstory.  

Do you have her medical File ?? lol

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39 minutes ago, TexasBorn said:

7 pounds of what? Brain mass? That's just oppressive.

She developed a belly in training camp. It’s a moot point as we are comparing apples to oranges here.

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I just can’t watch this. Melissa hair looked green on her segment on Good Day, LA or whatever LA morning show she did. And it still looks green. She just annoys me.

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9 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

I just can’t watch this. Melissa hair looked green on her segment on Good Day, LA or whatever LA morning show she did. And it still looks green. She just annoys me.

 

She got extensions yesterday, so now it is brunette and long.  I like her - I just don't think they are using her in the right way on t

She says it came down to more than just talent - she mentions them getting along in the locker room with each other.  Hmmmm.

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8 hours ago, tinabee1967 said:

If anything, it was said that Dayton looked great during her uniform fitting. Her body size seemed to stay pretty stable during the time she was on the show.

yes kelli said dayton looked amazing in the uniform or her body was perfect for it or something along those lines. and idk if my thought process is wonky or i just see things differently as other people but i find myself viewing things with a way different opinion than seems to be popular. like i feel that kelli does have a lot of love for dayton. like when she was late for makeovers and kelli told her "dont do that to me", i saw it as kelli saying "please dont put me i  a position where i have to get onto you because i care about you and i dont like to have to scold you". i know other people interpreted it differently but thats how i saw it. there seems to be a big opinion that kelli doesnt like dayton that well or didnt want her there. imho i dont think thats true. i think she cares about dayton. i know kelli is showing a lot of favoritism toward v.k., we all know that, and while it is irritating when i ask myself if i could be impartial if it was me and my bffs daughter trying out, i know the answer is no. and i do believe because of that kelli should have excused herself a few times from some of the discussions. But i do know that kelli has a hard job with a lot on her plate. i hate this about myself but ive always been an emphatic person who puts myself in other people's shoes when i form ideas on why they are doing certain things. and i dont envy kelli for this years training camp. im sure there were lots of high emotions this year. i do think that in general it would have been better for dayton if she had not been trying out at the same time as Victoria. i know the point im trying to make and i dont know if its coming across how i want it to. im not always good with words which is why i stayed so quiet on here and just observed for so long ???. i just love Dayton and when it comes to her i think there is a lot about her and also kelli that is misunderstood. she is a beautiful young lady and she seems very sweet. i know you cant tell just from an hour segment once a week but the vibe i get about her is a sweet sensitive well raised young lady who actually cares about your answer when she asks how someone is doing. i was really rooting for her but im happy she has found another great opportunity. @ShellyB please tell dayton i hope she has a wonderful time sailing the world and makes amazing memories ? i would love to go and watch her dance.

sorry for the rambling yall. like i said im not always great with words ???

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Random thoughts and observations:

I love the "Where are they now" segments of the show.  I loved Deryn and Sunni and Yoshiko and Courtney.

Some parts of the show seem so contrived and phony.  Like how they tried to promote certain things.

However you feel about VK, there is no way they would have let any other rookie get away with not only starting training camp heavier than they should be; but to GAIN 11 pounds during training camp. There's no way.  And Kitty surprised me most of all, cause she usually has no mercy for anyone.  I have Hypothyroidism too and with medication, it is completely in my power to gain and lose weight.  Not an excuse.

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18 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

She got extensions yesterday, so now it is brunette and long.  I like her - I just don't think they are using her in the right way on t

She says it came down to more than just talent - she mentions them getting along in the locker room with each other.  Hmmmm.

 

I like Melissa. And now I miss her sassy short hair. The extensions look a couple shades darker than her natural hair.

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4 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Wasn't it that she was cut for complaining about the favoritism, and not for weight?

I don't buy it because they both took that I-hop picture sitting across from each other. I do believe Kelli was planning to cut Tara for VK, though.

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5 minutes ago, TexasBorn said:

I don't buy it because they both took that I-hop picture sitting across from each other. I do believe Kelli was planning to cut Tara for VK, though.

VK was at IHOP??  I thought it was just the vets.  Anyway, it was just a theory until the insiders verified she was cut for weight, but I'm sure it will always be in the back of people's minds.  I just hope Tara is okay. 

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7 hours ago, Amk2017 said:

So I couldn’t attach the picture but here is what was posted with Emma’s husband, Victoria and Sam.  It’s just the comment that makes Victoria seem immature and not taking it seriously.  She’s like to eat the way she likes.  And the way Emma’s husband quotes “fluffiest,” I personally think that was probably said to Victoria.  They have been sugar coating how big Victoria is, so maybe Kelly said she was fluffy instead of saying your big.  This was just from August 11, after  Victoria was cut.  Anyone can go to Victoria’s tagged photos on Instagram and see this.  It’s almost like a slap in the face to those who cut her.  

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WOW. This was a definite FU to Kelli, Judy and the DCC. I would be too embarrassed to try out again after doing this AND everything else she pulled. How is this behavior any different than Chelsea's toxic behavior? This is why she is NOT a DCC. They don't allow stupid girls, soft girls, sloppy dancers, liars, or anyone who makes a mockery of the brand and disregards ALL available and offered help. Kelli worked harder than VK did, its disgusting. This girl is the biggest airhead that has ever auditioned. When she came waddling in to the locker room after her talk with Kelli she put her thumbs up stating "we good" I though is she going to burp next, this kid has zero class, zero remorse, just clueless. How many more episodes until this idiot is cut? The other rookies have had their light dimmed this season by this nitwit. We could have had better story lines and added more fans with Cianna being from Hawaii, and Bridgit, she is so darn cute, or Hannah the power house dancer, or Rachel, she is stunning, fit, and a great dancer. They ALL would have made better rookie representatives than highlighting this dumb arse, legacy or not. They DESERVED to be highlighted. VK didnt deserve to make it in to TC much less be the main rookie spokesperson for the season. When will she go away??? Again, yes there was definitely an underlying message there. 

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8 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I like Melissa. And now I miss her sassy short hair. The extensions look a couple shades darker than her natural hair.

I like her too and also preferred her shorter sassy cut.  It suited her fun, outgoing personality.  These new extensions look off & weird.

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1 hour ago, JennieM said:

Oh wow are these for real/unedited??? If so, that's not even DCC "heavy", that's actually obese (or would have been a few decades ago before the whole world got really big). But anyway it's fat by normal standards (definitely beyond what's healthy for an 18 year old), that's shockingly fat for DCC. It's embarrassing. You can't even blame the second picture on angles. How the other girls on weight warning must feel to have to look at that every practice! 

These pictures are straight from the show. I was watching the show on my phone and I screen shot the two pictures. No edits or photo shop. That is why Kelli needs to realize the weight is real and it’s not pretty in that outfit. So unfair for this girl. 

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5 minutes ago, CPA1967 said:

These pictures are straight from the show. I was watching the show on my phone and I screen shot the two pictures. No edits or photo shop. That is why Kelli needs to realize the weight is real and it’s not pretty in that outfit. So unfair for this girl. 

 

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7 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

VK was at IHOP??  I thought it was just the vets.  Anyway, it was just a theory until the insiders verified she was cut for weight, but I'm sure it will always be in the back of people's minds.  I just hope Tara is okay. 

I thought the same (vets only).  Unless there was another IHOP visit?

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I am in no way making excuses for VK because I also think she is too heavy and untoned for DCC standards.  But Jalyn is a teeny little thing.  I'm petite myself (5'3", 100lbs) and would probably look large standing next to her.

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20 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

Apparently the fact that VK is featured so heavily and is used in almost all the CMT social media promos has gone to TK’s head, making her think her little girl might be worthy of more than just being a DCC.  SMH

I can see the spin off. Focus a show on those who are getting ready to try out. Of course, VK would be the star but they could find a few other Dallas area girls and follow them through their journey to try-outs. 

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6 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

I can see the spin off. Focus a show on those who are getting ready to try out. Of course, VK would be the star but they could find a few other Dallas area girls and follow them through their journey to try-outs. 

As I understand it, that’s the pitch. 

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36 minutes ago, CPA1967 said:

 

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Unfortunately, VK has a body type similar to mine and she will struggle with weight for her entire life. What I noticed is that her stomach is protruding past her bust area. That is where I wear ALL of my weight and even though I haven't been preggo in 8 years, I have to watch certain styles because I can totally look it if I'm not careful.

 

I feel bad for VK in this one regard and only one, she can't fix her genetics and she's not educated enough to know why---she will literally starve and kill herself to get as small as she can and even that probably won't be enough. In my teen days the style was shopping at 5*7*9...my sister shopped there and I wanted to too. But I have hips and realistically, even with a flat stomach I needed an 11. I got into a pair of 9's once and was called into the guidance counselor's office to ask me if I was okay. They suspected I had an eating disorder. I didn't, I was just dancing 6 days a week in a building with no a/c and I was eating pretty well. 

I don't think VK will ever realistically get to the DCC standard, at least not in any reasonable or long lasting way, and her goal of point girl in 5 years is just not realistic. She may be able to squeek out a year, maybe two if they're willing to forget the other drama, but life long this will always be a thing. And it will only get worse/ 

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As I understand it, that’s the pitch. 

I definitely won't be watching it!

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9 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

The point is that Jinelle was not an appropriate mentor for someone with genetic and biological struggles with weight. She is a very healthy person and works hard for that.  But she lacks the the ability to empathize. And she lacks the fundamental understanding for why some people struggle and some people do not.

The very reason that VK thought she had to lie to begin with is the problem. She is ashamed and afraid. Even if she doesn't have a thyroid condition, weight struggle is a very real medical condition. Judgment is not necessary. 

If she wants a judgement free zone and doesn’t expect to see super skinny girls she’s in the wrong place. She knew what she signed up for and no one owes it to her to protect her feelings. She got fatter, plain and simple. If they give passes to every excuse an overweight person gives for being heavy then DCC wouldn’t be what it is.  She knew the standards, and if she doesn’t have the self control to manage it, that’s her problem. She’s in the wrong place if seeing a skinny person will hurt her emotionally. 

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10 hours ago, ShellyB said:

And several around DFW have direct relationship, automatic acceptance and scholarships to SMU, DBU and TCU. Sometimes it’s financial and just makes sense to get basics out of the way at 1/3 of the cost. 

TOTALLY AGREE. Another great benefit from community college that I received was being around some older students who returned to college after being in the military or who took a break to have kids. The insight I got from older, often more driven students helped me appreciate my education even more and spurred me to be more disciplined. It made my last two years at a state school easier to handle. 

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8 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

If I remember correctly, there was a girl in Season 2 who was called out for her weight. She was told to go work out with Jay, but she did not, and she ended up getting cut. I  guess she was not happy about being cut.

Ironically, her name was Victoria.

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Just now, ByTor said:

Ironically, her name was Victoria.

Yes, it was. It seems so silly to me to tell Judy and Kelli “Oh yes ma’am, I will go see Jay” or “Yes, I’ll go to the nutritionist/doctor” and then not go. Of course they’re going to find out. They do their homework. To think otherwise seems delusional to me. 

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The very reason that VK thought she had to lie to begin with is the problem. She is ashamed and afraid. Even if she doesn't have a thyroid condition, weight struggle is a very real medical condition. Judgment is not necessary. 

Then she is in the wrong business -- DCC is all about weight, appearance and dance ability -- she lied about it not because she felt ashamed, she lied about it because she felt entitled and didn't think that it would it come back and bite her in the ass.  

Also, the post about the whipped cream threw major shade at TPTB and if I was Emma I think I might be a tad pissed off at her husband's(?)  "fluffiest" comment.

If anything, her lying about the situation did a disservice to people who really do have this condition as evidenced by some of the comments on this board.

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5 minutes ago, MTTFan said:

Then she is in the wrong business -- DCC is all about weight, appearance and dance ability -- she lied about it not because she felt ashamed, she lied about it because she felt entitled and didn't think that it would it come back and bite her in the ass.  

Also, the post about the whipped cream threw major shade at TPTB and if I was Emma I think I might be a tad pissed off at her husband's(?)  "fluffiest" comment.

If anything, her lying about the situation did a disservice to people who really do have this condition as evidenced by some of the comments on this board.

THIS!

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On 9/22/2018 at 6:05 AM, LisaWl7TR said:

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Anyone know how tall VK is?

We all know how much Kelli cannot stand “ big boned girls”, with the exception being VK.

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29 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

Unfortunately, VK has a body type similar to mine and she will struggle with weight for her entire life. What I noticed is that her stomach is protruding past her bust area. That is where I wear ALL of my weight 

Oh, you & me both @Loves2Dance.  I really hope Victoria gets this under control...the hell with DCC & superficiality, from a health perspective this is the absolute worst place to carry extra weight.

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4 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

I still don’t understand why Emma’s husband is eating dessert with Victoria?! Are they all friends? This discussion was had back when this pic was posted before, but I don’t think it was ever answered?

No clue but Sam was with them too.

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1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

VK was at IHOP??  I thought it was just the vets.  Anyway, it was just a theory until the insiders verified she was cut for weight, but I'm sure it will always be in the back of people's minds.  I just hope Tara is okay. 

I could be wrong. I thought they both got cut the same night then went to ihop. I really don't know ...

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1 hour ago, MTTFan said:

Then she is in the wrong business -- DCC is all about weight, appearance and dance ability -- she lied about it not because she felt ashamed, she lied about it because she felt entitled and didn't think that it would it come back and bite her in the ass.  

Also, the post about the whipped cream threw major shade at TPTB and if I was Emma I think I might be a tad pissed off at her husband's(?)  "fluffiest" comment.

If anything, her lying about the situation did a disservice to people who really do have this condition as evidenced by some of the comments on this board.

Every word of this!

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2 hours ago, ladybug525 said:

yes kelli said dayton looked amazing in the uniform or her body was perfect for it or something along those lines. and idk if my thought process is wonky or i just see things differently as other people but i find myself viewing things with a way different opinion than seems to be popular. like i feel that kelli does have a lot of love for dayton. like when she was late for makeovers and kelli told her "dont do that to me", i saw it as kelli saying "please dont put me i  a position where i have to get onto you because i care about you and i dont like to have to scold you". i know other people interpreted it differently but thats how i saw it. there seems to be a big opinion that kelli doesnt like dayton that well or didnt want her there. imho i dont think thats true. i think she cares about dayton. i know kelli is showing a lot of favoritism toward v.k., we all know that, and while it is irritating when i ask myself if i could be impartial if it was me and my bffs daughter trying out, i know the answer is no. and i do believe because of that kelli should have excused herself a few times from some of the discussions. But i do know that kelli has a hard job with a lot on her plate. i hate this about myself but ive always been an emphatic person who puts myself in other people's shoes when i form ideas on why they are doing certain things. and i dont envy kelli for this years training camp. im sure there were lots of high emotions this year. i do think that in general it would have been better for dayton if she had not been trying out at the same time as Victoria. i know the point im trying to make and i dont know if its coming across how i want it to. im not always good with words which is why i stayed so quiet on here and just observed for so long ???. i just love Dayton and when it comes to her i think there is a lot about her and also kelli that is misunderstood. she is a beautiful young lady and she seems very sweet. i know you cant tell just from an hour segment once a week but the vibe i get about her is a sweet sensitive well raised young lady who actually cares about your answer when she asks how someone is doing. i was really rooting for her but im happy she has found another great opportunity. @ShellyB please tell dayton i hope she has a wonderful time sailing the world and makes amazing memories ? i would love to go and watch her dance.

sorry for the rambling yall. like i said im not always great with words ???

Thank you very much for your kind words! 

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1 hour ago, Loves2Dance said:

Unfortunately, VK has a body type similar to mine and she will struggle with weight for her entire life. What I noticed is that her stomach is protruding past her bust area. That is where I wear ALL of my weight and even though I haven't been preggo in 8 years, I have to watch certain styles because I can totally look it if I'm not careful.

 

I feel bad for VK in this one regard and only one, she can't fix her genetics and she's not educated enough to know why---she will literally starve and kill herself to get as small as she can and even that probably won't be enough. In my teen days the style was shopping at 5*7*9...my sister shopped there and I wanted to too. But I have hips and realistically, even with a flat stomach I needed an 11. I got into a pair of 9's once and was called into the guidance counselor's office to ask me if I was okay. They suspected I had an eating disorder. I didn't, I was just dancing 6 days a week in a building with no a/c and I was eating pretty well. 

I don't think VK will ever realistically get to the DCC standard, at least not in any reasonable or long lasting way, and her goal of point girl in 5 years is just not realistic. She may be able to squeek out a year, maybe two if they're willing to forget the other drama, but life long this will always be a thing. And it will only get worse/ 

I definitely won't be watching it!

Research suggests that in terms of obesity nad weight, one's genetics are only 50% of the story. yes, she'll have to watch her weight for the rest of her life because it's likely it'll be easier for her to gain weight and harder to lose it, but you can 100% fight genetics and educate yourself. I have always struggled with weight, literally from birth, and I have to commit to a lifestyle not a diet. yoyo dieting is the worst thing for people like us. there is no quick fix, no lazy ways out. it has to be every day and f you do have a bigger meal or have a cheat day you have to be sensible the rest of the time. its not a get out of jail free card to say 'oh its my genetics so I get a pass'. you have to take some responsibility for yourself at some point. I know I have to work out more than other, be more strict in my eating than others.  yes, it means I can't have pancakes with cream, or milkshakes or most yummy stuff except on special ocassions, but I'm not going to use the 'it's harder for me because of my genetics so woe is me' excuse.  If VK struggles with her weight, frankly she needs to grow up, and realise that at 18 this is the best her metabolism is going to be and she needs to either learn how to work with her body and be committed or prepare to be overweight her whole life, especially if she yoyo diets.  I had to do it.

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1 hour ago, PrincessLeia said:

I still don’t understand why Emma’s husband is eating dessert with Victoria?! Are they all friends? This discussion was had back when this pic was posted before, but I don’t think it was ever answered?

I know that Emma and her hubby went to Sam’s high school graduation.  And Sam was at their wedding.  He went to Harvard.  Maybe he was mentoring Sam when she was looking at Ivy League schools??

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9 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Jinelle has NEITHER the empathy needed NOR the training necessary. She is not a certified nutritionist, fitness coach or personal trainer.

but how would one know if jinelle has the empathy? she might not have the understanding of exactly how it feels to need to lose weight, she has always, as far as i  know been thin, but she knows the value of wanting to live a healthy lifestyle. and that would be the first step to getting v.k. to lose weight i would think. the fact that shes willing to help says to me she does have empathy toward v.ks plight. and granted it takes a lot to offend me, one has to actually put effort into it, but i wouldnt be offended if i was needing to lose weight and they paired me with jinelle as my get health buddy. id actually be happy about it. because i know it isnt just about the weight loss, its also about eating habits and lifestyle change. which if v.k. is indeed grabbing milkshakes and such she needs some guidance on her snacking choices.and if she wants to lose the weight in a healthy way and keep it off she is going to have to do things differently than she has been. and since jinelle embraces that lean way of eating i think she is the perfect choice to help not just Victoria but anyone. maybe its just because i like jinelle so much but i have confidence in her ability to recondition someones not so healthy habits into healthy ones. she spent 5 years on the team and is now working for dcc. i think she cares about dcc and wants the girls to be the best they all can in all ways possible ?

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1 minute ago, ladybug525 said:

but how would one know if jinelle has the empathy? she might not have the understanding of exactly how it feels to need to lose weight, she has always, as far as i  know been thin, but she knows the value of wanting to live a healthy lifestyle. and that would be the first step to getting v.k. to lose weight i would think. the fact that shes willing to help says to me she does have empathy toward v.ks plight. and granted it takes a lot to offend me, one has to actually put effort into it, but i wouldnt be offended if i was needing to lose weight and they paired me with jinelle as my get health buddy. id actually be happy about it. because i know it isnt just about the weight loss, its also about eating habits and lifestyle change. which if v.k. is indeed grabbing milkshakes and such she needs some guidance on her snacking choices.and if she wants to lose the weight in a healthy way and keep it off she is going to have to do things differently than she has been. and since jinelle embraces that lean way of eating i think she is the perfect choice to help not just Victoria but anyone. maybe its just because i like jinelle so much but i have confidence in her ability to recondition someones not so healthy habits into healthy ones. she spent 5 years on the team and is now working for dcc. i think she cares about dcc and wants the girls to be the best they all can in all ways possible ?

Exactly!

Just because jinelle is thin and has, to our knowledge, not struggled with her weight doesn't mean that she suffers from a lack of empathy or compassion. that's no different to saying all trainers and nutritionalists have to have been overweight at some point AND have genetics that cause them to struggle all their life or they don't know how to treat people. or that all theerapists have to have depression or a mental disorder or they can't treat people properly. Not all surgeons have ever had surgery themselves.  it's, frankly, nonsense.  Jinelle knows the value of a healthy lifestyle not a diet, and likely has a lot of information that can be useful.  Sometimes trainers give information that's great but less applicable to someone's real everyday life whereas Jinelle has lived the DCC life, she knows the sort of time suck it'd be, knows the travel and hours and therefore knows how to best prep food around that, and she was working with a nutritionalist too. I think it's a bit much to essentially say that she's a cold heartless bitch towards those with weight issues just because she's thin.

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