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they have to sign some kind of waiver saying they consent to be on t.v. though dont they? i could be wrong but if they sign it they prob dont have a choice. BUT then again kelli and Charlotte i think would do whatever it takes to not tarnish the brand so if someone did say lawyer they would prob squash it quickly whatever they think will work. im sure there are some things they wouldnt do but something a simple as leave out footage of a girl in bad light, theyd prob comply. i would think anyway.

dayton has the same pretty skin tone/hair color as my Italian son. ive often wondered if dayton was italian or possibly greek. am i toatally off base here @ShellyB? im not trying to be nosey. im just merely curious as dayton kind of has that exotic look my son does that im envious of ? im very familiar with funeral potatoes lol ?. sorry, i have a strange way of talking sometimes. i really meant why did you bring then up when i cant have any ???. they are so good. thankfully ive never actually had to go to a funeral to get any. they are a side dish at my husbands family get togethers.

Oh yummy you are so right. The fastest way to get a baptist to church is have dinner on the grounds. Mac and cheese, funeral potatoes, chicken and dumplings, genuine cream corn (picked from the field of course), smothered pork chops, chicken and dressing, deer sausage, the list just goes on and on. oh man. funeral potatoes. why? man i miss all that yummy southern goodness. im suprised that those girls can maintain their shapes as good as they do. im going to visit my mother in law for Christmas and after some of her good home cooking at some point im gonna have to hit whataburger. those dccs are the jedi masters of will power.

i cant promise that the reason i think jinelle is such a good person to help v.k. is just because i love her so much but i think even if i didnt like jinelle that well i would still think she has valuable information about a healthy way of living. granted a lot of it is common well known sense, but i think v.k. has to recondition her whole lifestyle and i cant remember how jinelle put it but something along the lines of her brain has all this information she wanted to pass onto v.ks brain and i think she has more to share with Victoria than just mere weight loss. i know its difficult to train yourself to a whole new set of habits and id love jinelles assistance with making it not just the weight loss itself but learning to live healthier. its really easy to say i will pass up a good creme brulee but when it comes down to it i am weak lol. its the mindset im missing. if jinelle could help v.k. with that kind of stuff, which i think she could, then v.k. really should have not looked that gift horse in the mouth. it might just come down to embarrassment with v.k. but if thats the case, and i think part of it is, she needs to ask herself should she just brush off the embarrassment of something a lot of those girls face, or is it worth it to lie and not take the help thats given and risk never becoming a dcc. i know what id do. shake it off and get my tail to work. but its easy to say that from a distance. i know shes under a lot of pressure and like many people said maybe she just needs a few years to get herself right and try again.

just wanted to add im not saying shes at an unhealthy weight now, her bmi is fine im sure, and id take her body quick like over my chubby self lol. i just know the rapid weight gain is unhealthy and i dont want to see her do anything unhealthy to lose it. so while she is big in the dcc world, in the normal world she is fine. i just dont want anyone thinking im calling a young girl at a perfectly reasonable weight a lost cause fatty. lord knows i have no room to talk ???

some of your quote got cut off there and i didnt feel like fixing it lol. i completely agree with you on that @CaseyRe. i to am one that has to completely watch my weight or it gets away from me. some of that is medical and some is bad habits on occasion. i just know because of my weight struggles i am kind of starting to feel for v.k. on this issue. like i said i cant speak for her personality issues if everything thats been said shes done is true, and the insiders have been right on much thus far, so i believe she needs a lot of work on that but when it comes to the weight ive got compassion. i dont feel compassion for the lies shes told but i do know the feeling of being embarrassed over weight gain. i had to have a lupron depot shot for fibroid tumors and i blew up like the good year blimps brown haired cousin. and its been hard to get it back down. i do think it is incredibly stupid to be practically handed a healthy lifestyle coach and not utilize the help that jinelle could have, still could give her. if i had jinelles guidance best believe i would take her advices and run with them. so when it comes to v.ks bad decisions, thats toatally on her. but when it comes to strictly the weight issue, i do feel for her. if for her health than anything else. like her or not i dont want to see any 18 year old unhealthy. to me shes still a child (anyone under 25 is to my old behind lol) and i dont want to see anyone with health issues especially after dealing with so many crappy ones of my own. but at the end of the day she had people in her corner, multiple people at that, and she should have appreciated that more than she did. but take away all the other factors and i hope she can get herself at a good weight the healthy way. especially since shes known from day one the weight issue would be one she needs to stay on top of.

I hate to sound stereotypical here but i lived in texas for many years. I brought me a texan husband back with me when i came back home. texans, not all of them, but some are all about that comfort food/cooking. i think with v.k. maybe shes at rehearsal all night and comes home and her mind is racing and she cant sleep and she thinks maybe she will just grab whatever to eat to calm her nerves. i cant tell you how many times when i was upest my southern friends would cook for me so we could sit over some food and talk. my hubby is the same way. Im not a Victoria fan, as ive said before but at least with the weight issue i feel for her. her personality, i have no justifications for but being someone who fluctuates depending on my stress levels, i know how it can be sometimes. ive never gained 11 lbs in 5 or so weeks but some people are just genetically screwed. shes probably one of them.

chandler. cant remember her last name....what was it? i liked her.

thank you. i am not Victorias biggest fan by any means, but shes still a person with feelings and i might express my irritation for the favoritism toward her and the entitlement i pick up on, but i cant bring myself to just trash her or anyone really. while for dcc she is a bit heavy, in the "normal" world she is fine. Im sure her bmi is sitting at normal. mine unfortunately is overweight but if Victoria is obese then i am a freaking sperm whale.

but how would one know if jinelle has the empathy? she might not have the understanding of exactly how it feels to need to lose weight, she has always, as far as i know been thin, but she knows the value of wanting to live a healthy lifestyle. and that would be the first step to getting v.k. to lose weight i would think. the fact that shes willing to help says to me she does have empathy toward v.ks plight. and granted it takes a lot to offend me, one has to actually put effort into it, but i wouldnt be offended if i was needing to lose weight and they paired me with jinelle as my get health buddy. id actually be happy about it. because i know it isnt just about the weight loss, its also about eating habits and lifestyle change. which if v.k. is indeed grabbing milkshakes and such she needs some guidance on her snacking choices.and if she wants to lose the weight in a healthy way and keep it off she is going to have to do things differently than she has been. and since jinelle embraces that lean way of eating i think she is the perfect choice to help not just Victoria but anyone. maybe its just because i like jinelle so much but i have confidence in her ability to recondition someones not so healthy habits into healthy ones. she spent 5 years on the team and is now working for dcc. i think she cares about dcc and wants the girls to be the best they all can in all ways possible ?

yes kelli said dayton looked amazing in the uniform or her body was perfect for it or something along those lines. and idk if my thought process is wonky or i just see things differently as other people but i find myself viewing things with a way different opinion than seems to be popular. like i feel that kelli does have a lot of love for dayton. like when she was late for makeovers and kelli told her "dont do that to me", i saw it as kelli saying "please dont put me i a position where i have to get onto you because i care about you and i dont like to have to scold you". i know other people interpreted it differently but thats how i saw it. there seems to be a big opinion that kelli doesnt like dayton that well or didnt want her there. imho i dont think thats true. i think she cares about dayton. i know kelli is showing a lot of favoritism toward v.k., we all know that, and while it is irritating when i ask myself if i could be impartial if it was me and my bffs daughter trying out, i know the answer is no. and i do believe because of that kelli should have excused herself a few times from some of the discussions. But i do know that kelli has a hard job with a lot on her plate. i hate this about myself but ive always been an emphatic person who puts myself in other people's shoes when i form ideas on why they are doing certain things. and i dont envy kelli for this years training camp. im sure there were lots of high emotions this year. i do think that in general it would have been better for dayton if she had not been trying out at the same time as Victoria. i know the point im trying to make and i dont know if its coming across how i want it to. im not always good with words which is why i stayed so quiet on here and just observed for so long ???. i just love Dayton and when it comes to her i think there is a lot about her and also kelli that is misunderstood. she is a beautiful young lady and she seems very sweet. i know you cant tell just from an hour segment once a week but the vibe i get about her is a sweet sensitive well raised young lady who actually cares about your answer when she asks how someone is doing. i was really rooting for her but im happy she has found another great opportunity. @ShellyB please tell dayton i hope she has a wonderful time sailing the world and makes amazing memories ? i would love to go and watch her dance. sorry for the rambling yall. like i said im not always great with words ???

you win. im done ???

The science behind why some people have weight problems vs. others is light years ahead of what is out in the public domain. Even medical practitioners are still treating these issues as a will power problem. People have both genetic and biological reasons for being overweight and very often cannot simply just change their habits with the guidance from someone who says "eat clean, eat fresh veggies." It is not that simple and it is not a one size fits all in terms of treatment. VK likely crash dieted to get ready for auditions but her set point weight was higher and her body reverted. Extremely common. The battle will be lifelong and will need constant vigilant monitoring from a variety of angles. A skinny bird on her shoulder who does not have the understanding for what it means to battle and change biology, will not be helpful. In fact it likely made the shame of this process even worse. The social stigma, as evidenced even on this forum, is so unnecessary. Years ago, people were blamed for getting cancer too. yeah i understand all that. but my point was not aimed toward whether or not victoria can lose the weight, i was responding to the debate people were having over whether jinelle was qualified enough to try to help Victoria or if having jinelle help her was not doing enough toward helping her. so i was pointing out that in general, for anybody needing guidance toward healthier habits jinelle was a good choice for advice and guidance on that subject, and that kelli having jinelle help victoria was real effort into trying to get v.k. into shape.

i highly doubt that jinelles advice is to eat rice cakes. she may not be a nutritionist but she is very outspoken about her love for healthy foods, fresh veggies and healthy fats. she has said she treats food as fuel for her body and i guarantee she knows very well how to eat properly to sustain energy during long practices and 4 hour games without unnecessary added calories or chemicals. i think she would be a great asset on the road to a healthy lifestyle and kelli and judy know that too which is why they asked her to help Victoria. As much as kelli loves v.k. i dont think for a second she would put her in less than capable hands when it comes to whatever she thinks it would help Victoria become a dcc. If v.k. had put 100% effort into letting jinelle guide her i think she would have had favorable results.

it makes sense :) and they do have mentors in a way...the group leaders are there for the girls in their group. the g.l's can go to kelli or judy for resources for someone that needs a little help with something. they arent toatally on their own.