Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[statsgirl]

From the episode discussion thread:

41 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Nikolas has my vote especially if Heather finds out that he wants full custody of the baby.

Nik in a coma would solve their problem of MC not coming back.

I guess Laura would end up with the baby since neither Esme nor Spencer should.

[WendyCR72]

32 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

From the episode discussion thread:

Nik in a coma would solve their problem of MC not coming back.

I guess Laura would end up with the baby since neither Esme nor Spencer should.

Except isn't Lulu still in a coma? Can't see Laura having TWO of her kids in a coma.

Come to think of it, does this show even remember Lulu? *shrug*

[jennifer6973]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Except isn't Lulu still in a coma? Can't see Laura having TWO of her kids in a coma.

Come to think of it, does this show even remember Lulu? *shrug*

I was just wondering about her today and if she was still alive.

 

Thanks.

[Asp Burger]

There have been a few mentions of people visiting Lulu offscreen at The Facility That Someone Found, but it's been very sporadic. 

[Cheyanne11]

8 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

The Facility That Someone Found

If only it had been Jax.  Then she'd have a chance of waking up.  

Although TFTJF gave us back Michael, so...never mind.

[nilyank]

Just now, Cheyanne11 said:

If only it had been Jax.  Then she'd have a chance of waking up.  

Although TFTJF gave us back Michael, so...never mind.

I thought it was the same clinic and thought Laura said so when they arranged for Lulu to be sent there.

[dubbel zout]

It is the same clinic.

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

I thought it was the same clinic and thought Laura said so when they arranged for Lulu to be sent there.

When a joke falls flat...

[tessaray]

Well, my speculation that Heather was Esme's precious nanny was dashed yesterday by Heather telling Ryan she'd never seen their daughter (after giving her up). That doesn't mean that the nanny isn't the Hook but the odds go up that the serial killer probably isn't anyone we care about or anyone that makes sense. Well, except maybe the ADA. And if it is the ADA, whose name I can't even remember, it will be a letdown. 

[Fellaway]

4 hours ago, tessaray said:

Well, except maybe the ADA. And if it is the ADA, whose name I can't even remember, it will be a letdown. 

The fallout from the "big" Carly/Nina/Willow reveal certainly has been, so I expect no less from the Hook reveal. Prove me wrong, Show. I dare ya!

[Melgaypet]

It's almost impressive how completely unsympathetic this show has made the pretty girl who grew up in a rape cult, lost a baby, adopted a child, got cancer while pregnant, etc.

[KittenPokerCheater]

I'm furious that Carly has been so easily forgiven by all in 1 second flat.

[Melgaypet]

9 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I'm furious that Carly has been so easily forgiven by all in 1 second flat.

Beyond the question of whether Carly deserves to be forgiven (she doesn't), it's the most boring possible writing choice. What was the point of her going to such lengths to keep the secret if the response to being found out was going to be a collective shrug? This show is allergic to drama.

[statsgirl]

10 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

This show is allergic to drama.

Allergic to the drama caused by consequences for Carly's actions at least.

[Asp Burger]

Personally, I'm glad we haven't been getting those Lulu visits onscreen. There are already enough things I find to be a waste of time (hi and bye, Valentin and Anna on your spy adventure with the day players); I don't need freakin' Maxie emoting to a wig on a stick about her latest developments with Austin and Spinelli. 

[Kiki777]

11 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I'm furious that Carly has been so easily forgiven by all in 1 second flat.

I’m furious too but... not surprised 😔 

[tessaray]

15 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I'm furious that Carly has been so easily forgiven by all in 1 second flat.

Michael is still mad at the end of yesterday's show - 2 episodes is 1 more than I expected. 

[ffwbe]

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

Michael is still mad at the end of yesterday's show - 2 episodes is 1 more than I expected. 

Idk, I think people forget but Michael has only been up Carly’s ass since 2018 or so (post Nelle). He never listened to her prior to that and always lashed out at her harder than Sonny. She hated every one of his gfs before Sasha, he didn’t care, and built a relationship with AJ over her loud objections

[tessaray]

18 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Idk, I think people forget but Michael has only been up Carly’s ass since 2018 or so (post Nelle). He never listened to her prior to that and always lashed out at her harder than Sonny. She hated every one of his gfs before Sasha, he didn’t care, and built a relationship with AJ over her loud objections

That's true but unfortunately I was on the barge for most of that. The last couple of years of Michael, Willow and Wiley have just made me loathe him. And his ELQ story with Ned and Drew didn't help.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, tessaray said:

Michael is still mad at the end of yesterday's show - 2 episodes is 1 more than I expected. 

As I posted in the episode thread, he's still angry because Willow isn't AJ.

1 hour ago, ffwbe said:

Idk, I think people forget but Michael has only been up Carly’s ass since 2018 or so (post Nelle). He never listened to her prior to that and always lashed out at her harder than Sonny. She hated every one of his gfs before Sasha, he didn’t care, and built a relationship with AJ over her loud objections

But once Sean Kanan was let go (again!), he reverted back and forgave both assholes and I don't recall seeing him getting angry or even hating them forever after Mooby murdered him.

[jsbt]

No, it was A.J.'s murder that led to him breaking with them in full the first time - when it was exposed in the fall of 2014. Those were good scenes at the time. The problem was that the show did not want to play it out for long, people began haranguing Michael to let Sonny and Carly back into his life, and Michael forgave them within a year IIRC.

[Gigi43]

On 1/16/2023 at 7:17 PM, RedElf said:

I'm just speculating here, but I bet that Willow's baby is going to die, and Carly is going to steal Esme's baby and pass it off as Willow's.

 

I've had the thought lately that Willow's baby won't make it and Nina will have a breakdown and switch the babies. CW has been playing Nina on edge and so convinced she'll be a match I'm expecting something to happen that breaks her. Then Carly will eventually figure it out and be the hero for telling Michael and Willow the truth. 

[jqdeco]

2 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

 

I've had the thought lately that Willow's baby won't make it and Nina will have a breakdown and switch the babies. CW has been playing Nina on edge and so convinced she'll be a match I'm expecting something to happen that breaks her. Then Carly will eventually figure it out and be the hero for telling Michael and Willow the truth. 

Man I hope Nina doesn’t steal any babies. She already did that with Ava. Don’t need a repeat. I’d rather Esme’s baby dies. Not that I care if Willow’s baby dies, I just don’t want to suffer through that storyline.

[Mirabelle]

5 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

 

I've had the thought lately that Willow's baby won't make it and Nina will have a breakdown and switch the babies. CW has been playing Nina on edge and so convinced she'll be a match I'm expecting something to happen that breaks her. Then Carly will eventually figure it out and be the hero for telling Michael and Willow the truth. 

If Carly tells the truth, I'll be impressed but I don't see it happening. She'll just sit on this information until Robin comes to town & has to do tests on the baby for whatever reason and Robin will figure out the baby can't possibly be a spawn of Carly. Then Robin will tell Kevin - he's the most sane & competent of Esme's relatives and hopefully Esme's parentage is out by this point - because that is the role she plays whenever Carly tries to hide a baby's true identity - Carly lies and hoards and Robin exposes it. 

I hope Nik just takes the baby and disappears with it. That way the show is not stuck with another unnecessary baby and we don't have to sit through another dead baby storyline. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

20 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

If Carly tells the truth, I'll be impressed but I don't see it happening. She'll just sit on this information until Robin comes to town & has to do tests on the baby for whatever reason and Robin will figure out the baby can't possibly be a spawn of Carly. Then Robin will tell Kevin - he's the most sane & competent of Esme's relatives and hopefully Esme's parentage is out by this point - because that is the role she plays whenever Carly tries to hide a baby's true identity - Carly lies and hoards and Robin exposes it. 

This just made me 🤣😄😂 because the bolded is so, so true.

I realize this is all speculation, but all of these specs are contingent upon Esme giving birth at the same time SPO's spawn is delivered, and both are in the hospital to allow for the switching to happen.

But Esme's in the "minimal security" Spring Ridge. Like, what? Accused serial killer, but sure, put her in "minimum security" facility.

[nilyank]

4 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But Esme's in the "minimal security" Spring Ridge. Like, what? Accused serial killer, but sure, put her in "minimum security" facility.

Well they are already housing 2 serial killers, so what’s one more.

[Cheyanne11]

12 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But Esme's in the "minimal security" Spring Ridge. Like, what? Accused serial killer, but sure, put her in "minimum security" facility.

She's only been charged with the revenge porn and the assault on Oz, though.  I thought they said they didn't have enough/any evidence for the murders.

[GHScorpiosRule]

40 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

She's only been charged with the revenge porn and the assault on Oz, though.  I thought they said they didn't have enough/any evidence for the murders.

Oops. Brain freeze.

[mostlylurking]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But Esme's in the "minimal security" Spring Ridge. Like, what? Accused serial killer, but sure, put her in "minimum security" facility.

Well they are already housing 2 serial killers, so what’s one more.

I was thinking the same thing.  Like ok they all think Ryan is locked in or whatever but what about Heather??  It’s so weird.

[Kitty Redstone]

I sincerely hope there is no baby switch.  It's been done so often, and frankly I'm still scarred by the Babe/Bianca baby switch from AMC a million years ago and never want to see something like that again.

Also, it's bad enough that there's been no repercussions for Carly but anything that gives her yet another reason to be smug and superior would be too much. 

[Jaded]

21 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

I sincerely hope there is no baby switch.  It's been done so often, and frankly I'm still scarred by the Babe/Bianca baby switch from AMC a million years ago and never want to see something like that again.

Ditto. That storyline made me loathe all baby switches in soaps that have come after, I especially hated how on Days they killed off the next child Nicole was pregnant with after the drama surrounding the first one. 

[Grinaldi]

The only way a baby switch would remotely interest me is if Nina and Carly were in on it together. Forcing the two of them try to keep that secret together while loathing and resenting each other could be fun.

[jsbt]

There have been entirely too many baby switches on soaps and GH alone in the last decade. So of course it's time for another one, because baby stories and baby swaps are the easiest stories to approve on a gunshy network.

I still don't buy Nina and Ava as BFF. I remember when Nina came on this show nursing a 20 year homicidal grudge and how she tortured Ava giving birth.

Edited January 23, 2023 by jsbt

[dubbel zout]

23 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I still don't buy Nina and Ava as BFF.

United against Carly can make the strangest of bedfellows, heh.

[Cheetara1986]

The one baby switch story that can never be top might be the Sheila/Lauren one from Y&R back in the early 90's. 

Now they have become uninspiring, and I dont trust this currenr crop to make a potential one exciting unfortuantely.

[jacourt]

The worst part of this show is that the people on this forum write better storylines than the professional writers on staff.

[KittenPokerCheater]

Legit- sometimes I want to write my own soap- who has tens of millions of dollars to write/promote and then hire the best soap actors to do it??

(while I’m wishing, I want a pony too).

[YaddaYadda]

31 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Legit- sometimes I want to write my own soap- who has tens of millions of dollars to write/promote and then hire the best soap actors to do it??

(while I’m wishing, I want a pony too).

You don't even need that to get started. Write something, get friends to act in it. Do 5-10 mins capsules, post it online. 

[sacrebleu]

On 1/20/2023 at 8:02 AM, Gigi43 said:

 

I've had the thought lately that Willow's baby won't make it and Nina will have a breakdown and switch the babies. CW has been playing Nina on edge and so convinced she'll be a match I'm expecting something to happen that breaks her. Then Carly will eventually figure it out and be the hero for telling Michael and Willow the truth. 

See, I was thinking Esme's baby dies, Heather steals Millie's baby and Nina/Sonny figure it out, finally leading to Michael/ Willow rethinking their feud position. But I never get nice things.

[Cheyanne11]

Just saw this for next Monday:

Quote

Nina becomes privy to a secret. Whose secret does she hold and will she keep it a secret?

Nothing good can come from this.  

[Desperado]

When is Marcus’ last on screen date? I had heard end of January.

[PatsyandEddie]

That’s what I’ve heard. No idea if Nic disappears or a temp takes over 🤷🏼‍♀️
Sonny obviously doesn’t trust Dex. Cam, you are a good person who deserves so much better than Joss. I loved how he called her out today. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by PatsyandEddie

[jqdeco]

Just read on the General Hospital Blog that Heather is Esme’s nanny Maggie. Interesting theory. 
 

 

 

[YaddaYadda]

21 minutes ago, jqdeco said:

Just read on the General Hospital Blog that Heather is Esme’s nanny Maggie. Interesting theory. 

There's a massive timeline problem with this. But it's this show, these writers, who retcon things from the week before. So who knows.

[Melgaypet]

7 hours ago, jqdeco said:

Just read on the General Hospital Blog that Heather is Esme’s nanny Maggie. Interesting theory. 
 

 

 

Looking on the bright side: maybe this is a call back to when Heather finagled herself a position as the Taylors' nanny after they adopted infant Steven Lars?

Nope, sorry, the bright side hurts my eyes. This sounds dumb.

[dubbel zout]

So Heather is Esmé's mother and her nanny? She supposedly had never set eyes on Esmé until she saw her at Shady Brooke (or wherever the first meeting was). Even for GH, that's quite the plot pretzel.

[nilyank]

36 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

So Heather is Esmé's mother and her nanny? She supposedly had never set eyes on Esmé until she saw her at Shady Brooke (or wherever the first meeting was). Even for GH, that's quite the plot pretzel.

That would confirm that Esme really has amnesia or she is even a better actress than I thought.

Heather is either the mom or was the nanny who fixated on her charge being her third chance at being a mom.

[dubbel zout]

I meant Heather supposedly only first set eyes on Esmé at Shady Brooke, so how could Heather be her nanny?

I don't see how the show can retcon Heather being Esmé's nanny after we heard her moping to Ryan about missing out on her life as Esmé's mother.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I meant Heather supposedly only first set eyes on Esmé at Shady Brooke, so how could Heather be her nanny?

I don't see how the show can retcon Heather being Esmé's nanny after we heard her moping to Ryan about missing out on her life as Esmé's mother.

I think you mean Spring Ridge?

As for the latter, come on, now! You know this show retcons shit on a weekly basis! Of COURSE Heather is also Esmé’s nanny!🙄🙄🙄🙄

Alley looks too much like Laura for me to accept her as Heather.

[jsbt]

It is absolutely supposed to be a callback to what Heather did with Steven Lars and the Taylors (a great deal of that story is on YT BTW, and it's good). It just doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless this is just some fan's disorganized spec (like fans putting forth the 'theory' last year that Sonny's latest adversary was R.J. Gannon from OLTL which, sorry, I love Tim Stickney but no way that was happening).

Edited January 29, 2023 by jsbt