Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

As expected, Olivia yelling at Ned (eyeroll) and Carly sobbing in a "why, me, God?" way.  Hoping Spencer is in Britt's office to apologize to her.

I watched this very often, freezing the frame with Carly crying and looking like she's about to throw up.

I really hope this is karma coming home to roost.

[ouinason]

well, in the clip Olivia isn't yelling exactly, and it is a decent question.  Is the business worth alienating his family over?  the answer, according to Q tradition, is obviously yes.

[dubbel zout]

7 minutes ago, ouinason said:

Is the business worth alienating his family over?

When that family is Michael and Drew, who refused to listen to Ned, I'd say yes, it's worth it.

[ouinason]

I'm totally on Ned's side in this.  I mean, just for Leo, being rich is gonna be super helpful.  Yeah, autistic kids do ok even in upper middle class families (and if ELQ tanks, that's about where I figure that family will end up with the hotel and all) but mo money means mo special education specific schools, more adaptations for learning, more classes/teachers/social opportunities specifically set up to help Leo, better medical care, more options with doctors and autism specialists that he has a good rapport with... all that adds up, and ELQ doing better under Val means that Leo's future is more secure.  Screw Michael and Drew.

[Melgaypet]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

When that family is Michael and Drew, who refused to listen to Ned, I'd say yes, it's worth it.

I mean, seriously. If it were Tracy and Dillon, I could see that being a pertinent question. Drew and Michael are smug, stupid assholes who don't give a single shit about Ned, I don't see why he should care about alienating them.

[ffwbe]

1 hour ago, ouinason said:

well, in the clip Olivia isn't yelling exactly, and it is a decent question.  Is the business worth alienating his family over?  the answer, according to Q tradition, is obviously yes.

It was a valid question when this came up 2 years ago with his daughter who he’s struggled to maintain a positive relationship with. It’s a little more iffy when the family is a cousin who he’s only known for a few years and a first cousin once removed, neither of whom he’s particularly close to, trying to push him out of the company. It’s not like Drew and Michael ever put ELQ over anything else in their lives or would sacrifice anything for it. 

[Artsda]

Olivia and Willow both need to shut up and stay out of ELQ business. 

[WendyCR72]

4 hours ago, Artsda said:

Olivia and Willow both need to shut up and stay out of ELQ business. 

They need to be abducted by aliens and never come back, although the poor aliens wouldn't deserve to be stuck with them.

[YaddaYadda]

Nina does buy Carly's half of the hotel, offers it to Carly, who turns it down.

I hate the offering it to Carly, and I'm sure that Carly will twist that around into bad Nina buying up her part to gloat. Then Michael will go and beat his chest at her and pregnant Willow will screech about how mean Nina is and how unfair the situation is to poor poor Carly.

[TeeVee329]

Ugh, I hate that they're going in this predicable, stupid direction, deflating some of my joy about Carly losing the MetroCourt finally.

And are we supposed to feel bad for Carly?  She was stupid to do what she did putting up the hotel in the first place, and she was stupid for turning down the various people who way too generously offered their aid.

[nilyank]

As I posted earlier, the show wants to move Carly away from the MC. First they wrote her losing the hotel and then her repeating turning down people trying to buy it back for her. They are going to move Carly into something else. Frankly after the summer is over and the pool set is put away, I do wonder how much they will continue to use the MC set. The owner is Olivia who is recurring and now Nina who still has a day job of editor in chief at Crimson. I guess the MC would still be its own standing set for people to meet at the bar/restaurant.

[ouinason]

The MC has gotten a bit stale, so either have Nina renovate or move away from having everything happen there all the time.

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, ouinason said:

The MC has gotten a bit stale

That's probably why we have the pool and that garden set where Laura and Anna were meeting today.

[YaddaYadda]

I think it's an SOD spoiler;

TJ informs Willow that her white blood count is elevated.

So it seems we are headed for a Willow needs a bone marrow transplant storyline.

I hope her pregnancy is a false positive.

Edited July 15, 2022 by YaddaYadda

[Cheyanne11]

2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

TJ informs Willow that her white blood count is elevated.

Who had leukemia on their Convenientitis bingo card?

[YaddaYadda]

7 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Who had leukemia on their Convenientitis bingo card?

All of us (cancer at least). We've just been waiting for the show to finally join us.

[statsgirl]

My bingo card also includes Drew saying that Carly was right to lie because Willow didn't want to have anything to do with er.

[Cheyanne11]

23 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

My bingo card also includes Drew saying that Carly was right to lie because Willow didn't want to have anything to do with er.

My center square has the line "don't beat yourself up over this--you did what you thought was right at the time.  I would've done the same thing."

[SoapsSpoilers]

Friday's GH recap: Ava Tries to Buy Esme’s Confession, and Carly Says Goodbye to the Metro Court

https://soapsspoilers.com/general-hospital/recaps/ava-tries-buy-esme-confession-carly-goodbye-metro-court

[tessaray]

I'm seeing multiple online references to Esme getting killed. If so, I may need a time out on the barge because I'm not up to another Ryan rampage. 

[Melgaypet]

They'd be stupid to kill off Esme. Soaps need these kind of troublemakers/destabilizing elements. She needs better writing, but that's true across the board. A Esme/Trina feud could drive story for years.

[statsgirl]

I'd rather have a Esme/Joss feud though. They're better matched and Trina doesn't get down dirty enough.

[dubbel zout]

No one feuds with a Corinthos (or Corinthos-adjacent) and lasts. Esmé will either leave/be killed or she'll be vying with Nina for the title of town goat.

[Melgaypet]

Eh. Joss simply isn't interesting enough to me, and given her status as Carly Jr, the scales would always be weighted in her favor.

[methodwriter85]

3 hours ago, Melgaypet said:

Eh. Joss simply isn't interesting enough to me, and given her status as Carly Jr, the scales would always be weighted in her favor.

Seriously they should have either just written Joss off to college or recast Eden like they did to Sydney. If this show had any sense they'd have Joss getting hot and heavy with Pretty Blond Mob Boy but Eden has very limited availability so she just kind of just wades. 

[statsgirl]

Like Carly, Joss and Michael will always win but they're best when there is someone strong enough to give them a run for their money.

I have no interest in Joss, far from it. But Trina is going to be no match for Esme unless they rewrite the character. She's too nice and she doesn't hold grudges like Joss does. Spencer has already taken Trina's side and now he's supported Trina on the stand. Trina may not move to feeling sorry for Esme abandoned by everyone (although I'm not betting on it), but she's not Joss, this version of Trina is not going to want to keep up a feud when when she has won it all.

Esme is the kind of character to keep up a feud (like Dorian and Victoria) but she needs a worthy opponent.

[Artsda]

10 hours ago, Melgaypet said:

They'd be stupid to kill off Esme. Soaps need these kind of troublemakers/destabilizing elements. She needs better writing, but that's true across the board. A Esme/Trina feud could drive story for years.

They've wrote her into an evil corner, she's more Helena like where she needs to be dead or come & go. She drugged 2 people, one is in a coma, the revenge porn. the framing of Trina. 

[nilyank]

49 minutes ago, Artsda said:

They've wrote her into an evil corner, she's more Helena like where she needs to be dead or come & go. She drugged 2 people, one is in a coma, the revenge porn. the framing of Trina. 

Ava killed Kate, shot/almost killed Olivia, tried to kill AJ numerous times, egged Sonny on to kill AJ, tried to trap Sonny/Carly in a burning fire, switched Morgan's medication (which led to his breakdown and death), was involved with 3 serial killers (Franco, Paul, Ryan), drugged Sasha, trying to screw over Kiki in the sexual harassment case because she was mad about Kiki and Griffin. Yet, Ava is still around because the show loves the actress and found ways to keep her around despite all the things she has done.

Sonny is still around and if SB didn't leave due to Disney mandate, Jason would still be on the show. It would take several pages for me to list all the dirt those two have done.

As of now, Esme is a 19 year old who biggest influence in her life is her serial killer father and whose crimes were committed similarly in multifold by the above - drugging (Sonny, Ava), sexual crimes (Sonny, Ava), framing innocent person (Sonny), attempted murder (Sonny, Jason, Ava).

The actress is really good, and she brings energy to the teen characters who are written as goody-goody kids who go to school, love their parents, don't drink, do drugs, have sex. Before they recasted Trina, the actors that play Cam, Joss and Trina were all going college and their time was limited by their school schedule so the show wrote more for Spencer and Esme.

To kill her off would be a mistake especially as no one is aware of her connection to Ryan or who her mother could be on the show. There is story potential especially if the show would only try. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by nilyank

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 hours ago, statsgirl said:

She's too nice and she doesn't hold grudges like Joss does

Sydney's Trina did hold a grudge against Curtis. Until plot! dictated she no longer had to hold one.

Edited August 1, 2022 by GHScorpiosRule

[Liddy52]

8 hours ago, nilyank said:

Ava killed Kate, shot/almost killed Olivia, tried to kill AJ numerous times, egged Sonny on to kill AJ, tried to trap Sonny/Carly in a burning fire, switched Morgan's medication (which led to his breakdown and death), was involved with 3 serial killers (Franco, Paul, Ryan), drugged Sasha, trying to screw over Kiki in the sexual harassment case because she was mad about Kiki and Griffin. Yet, Ava is still around because the show loves the actress and found ways to keep her around despite all the things she has done.

Sonny is still around and if SB didn't leave due to Disney mandate, Jason would still be on the show. It would take several pages for me to list all the dirt those two have done.

As of now, Esme is a 19 year old who biggest influence in her life is her serial killer father and whose crimes were committed similarly in multifold by the above - drugging (Sonny, Ava), sexual crimes (Sonny, Ava), framing innocent person (Sonny), attempted murder (Sonny, Jason, Ava).

The actress is really good, and she brings energy to the teen characters who are written as goody-goody kids who go to school, love their parents, don't drink, do drugs, have sex. Before they recasted Trina, the actors that play Cam, Joss and Trina were all going college and their time was limited by their school schedule so the show wrote more for Spencer and Esme.

To kill her off would be a mistake especially as no one is aware of her connection to Ryan or who her mother could be on the show. There is story potential especially if the show would only try. 

I agree with the point you are making here. I have one question though. When did Ava drug Sasha? Not disagreeing with you, I  just am curious because I  don’t remember that.

[nilyank]

1 hour ago, Liddy52 said:

I agree with the point you are making here. I have one question though. When did Ava drug Sasha? Not disagreeing with you, I  just am curious because I  don’t remember that.

It was around the time she was mad at Kiki and Griffin. Kiki and Sasha were getting to know eacH other so Ava drugged Sasha and Griffin so that Kiki would think he cheated on her with her sister.

[Liddy52]

28 minutes ago, nilyank said:

It was around the time she was mad at Kiki and Griffin. Kiki and Sasha were getting to know eacH other so Ava drugged Sasha and Griffin so that Kiki would think he cheated on her with her sister.

Thanks, I don't remember that at all, but I might not have been watching at that time.  Or I could have blocked it out, I do that sometimes with this show!

[Gam2]

I really miss Sidney as Trina.

[racked]

14 hours ago, Gam2 said:

I really miss Sidney as Trina.

I do like the new actress but I can’t help but think of what these scenes would be like with SM. 

[ffwbe]

Per SOD: “Willow must decide if she’ll seek treatment and risk a miscarriage or refuse and risk the cancer spreading”

I can’t believe they are doing this storyline right now. It’s so tone deaf

[statsgirl]

I wouldn't be worrying about a miscarriage, I would be worrying about birth defects. (I was just reading about a woman in Louisiana I think whose baby is missing part of its brain and head.)

I wish KT all the best but I would rather keep Britt and get rid of Cody.

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, BunnyFooFoo said:

Speaking of Holly being trapped, what happened with that recent storyline where Robert and Olivia were in some casino and the viewers saw Holly bound and gagged? I was looking forward to seeing Emma on the show and the story was just dropped, I think. What was the point of that?

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Emma got COVID shortly after that scene, so they had to drop that storyline.

https://deadline.com/2022/08/emma-samms-returning-gh-october-long-covid-1235097386/
 

Holly is coming back finally:

[GHScorpiosRule]

10 minutes ago, nilyank said:

https://deadline.com/2022/08/emma-samms-returning-gh-october-long-covid-1235097386/
 

Holly is coming back finally:

Yeah. Posted in the media thread earlier this week.

[jsbt]

On 8/18/2022 at 6:03 PM, ffwbe said:

Per SOD: “Willow must decide if she’ll seek treatment and risk a miscarriage or refuse and risk the cancer spreading”

I can’t believe they are doing this storyline right now. It’s so tone deaf

Yeah, current events are actually a story GH could be bold enough to dig into with a situation like this, if they or the network had any balls.

[YaddaYadda]

I guess it was a matter of time before it happened. It looks like it will be a short stint.

Edited September 1, 2022 by YaddaYadda

[statsgirl]

If it's a short stint, it will probably be either a flashback or someone imagining her. But what I'd really like is for Nelle to be the donor match for Willow, that would screw with Willow's and Michael's minds far more than if it's Nina. And unlike Nina, Nelle would blackmail to get access to Wylie.

[nilyank]

42 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

If it's a short stint, it will probably be either a flashback or someone imagining her. But what I'd really like is for Nelle to be the donor match for Willow, that would screw with Willow's and Michael's minds far more than if it's Nina. And unlike Nina, Nelle would blackmail to get access to Wylie.

I imagine Nelle will be filled with rage that:

1. Michael loves Willow

2. Wylie loves Willow 

3. Carly approves of Michael and Willow being together.

If Nelle is alive, I say that she is the fish hooker. Maybe she thought that Carly would get blamed. I doubt if she got over trying to destroy Carly's life.

[Cheyanne11]

My prediction: Willow's leukemia secret is out and Carly is ~haunted by Nelle because "first you kept ME a secret from my mother, now your keeping Willow a secret.  I wonder: do you hate Nina more than you love Willow that you'll let her die rather than share with someone you hate?" 

[nilyank]

4 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

My prediction: Willow's leukemia secret is out and Carly is ~haunted by Nelle because "first you kept ME a secret from my mother, now your keeping Willow a secret.  I wonder: do you hate Nina more than you love Willow that you'll let her die rather than share with someone you hate?" 

I highly doubt that Carly feels guilty about not telling Nina that a supposedly dead Nelle was her daughter.

Carly is not going to keep quiet about Willow when she finds out that she is sick and Nina might be the only one who could save.

Years ago, Kristina was extremely sick with cancer and Sonny believed that Ned was her father. Carly was the one who told him that he had to go to the hospital to get himself tested because Kristina was his daughter. She had known the truth for about a year or so and she told Sonny because he might have been Kristina's only chance to get better. She knew this would end their marriage because Sonny was all about his family and being betrayal. At least back then he was.

[Kiki777]

🙁I think Brando’s not going to survive- my cable provider’s description for Tuesday says that ‘Port Charles mourns the death of one of their own’.  I’m not sure who else it could be unless there’s a surprise coming up.  

[paisley]

I think Ally Mills will play Esme's former nanny who enjoys bangle bracelets, meat hooks, and venoms.

But I was enjoying the idea of Rory the cross dressing serial hooker. It gave him a personality.

[KittenPokerCheater]

I was thinking Ally Mills will play the Ghost of Carly's Mother (whoever her name was).  So Carly can get "closure" or something inane like that.

[Mirabelle]

Until the story plays out, I'm going to hope Carly's adoptive mother just faked her death with Jason's help because she realized what a monster Carly was and is most displeased Carly has ruined her Golden Girls retirement in Boca Raton.

[RedElf]

As has been speculated for several days, Marcus Colonna is out as Nicholas.  I guess it was not on good terms, he refused to tape his last few episodes, so I wonder if they did a temp recast.

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, RedElf said:

As has been speculated for several days, Marcus Colonna is out as Nicholas.  I guess it was not on good terms, he refused to tape his last few episodes, so I wonder if they did a temp recast.

No longer speculation and being discussed in the media thread.