Season 5 Discussion

[LocalGovt]

9 hours ago, peaceknit said:

I think she was wearing her mother's 1980's Gunne Sax wedding dress. 

Does Josh have top teeth? I haven't seen him smile with his teeth yet. 

As others were fascinated by Aika's brows (I was too), I found myself straining to catch just a glimmer of upper tooth in Josh's mouth, every time he spoke.  No luck. That upper lip is not budging.

[CoachWristletJen]

1 minute ago, LocalGovt said:

As others were fascinated by Aika's brows (I was too), I found myself straining to catch just a glimmer of upper tooth in Josh's mouth, every time he spoke.  No luck. That upper lip is not budging.

If he doesn't have them, that should have been a dead giveaway to Aika about the Porsche she was wanting.

[merylinkid]

Molly is all kinds of an idiot.   Luis better be extremely good in bed to be worth losing a chunk of her business, possibly her house (please, please please let it all be paid for already so he has no rights to it), and probably have to pay that loser alimony for a huge chunk of time.   She didn't have to marry the guy.    

She can call ICE on him, but then they investigate HER to see if she was part of the fraud.    Better to just suck it up than face fraud charges herself.   She's got more to lose.   Luis has the upper hand here and he knows it.

[Kellyee]

I want to grab May's tablet and beat Nicole over the head with it. That poor child. What a horrible, neglectful mother. Does anyone in that family notice how much time that child is spending plugged in and not interacting? If she really hadn't seen her grandparents for weeks, why weren't they talking to her and playing with her?? Ugh.

[Forum member]

13 minutes ago, LocalGovt said:

As others were fascinated by Aika's brows (I was too), I found myself straining to catch just a glimmer of upper tooth in Josh's mouth, every time he spoke.  No luck. That upper lip is not budging.

I kept hoping they would show him biting his butter with a little bread underneath, but no such luck.

[millennium]

40 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Annie should go back to Thailand.  But, I am not sure she can do any better than David.  

The water buffalo would make a better mate than David. 

I agree Annie's unattractive, and becomes even more so when her eyes cloud over with dollar signs.

[Eme]

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If she really hadn't seen her grandparents for weeks, why weren't they talking to her and playing with her?? Ugh.

Because Robbalee is as good a grandmother as she is a mother....in other words, Useless.  That little girl is on her own.  

Nicole's threaty lies to live in Morocco slide very easily off her tongue.  She is an incredible liar.  

Edited December 18, 2017 by Eme

[Bryce Lynch]

Did David Poor's credit card get declined because it was foreign or because it only had 318 baht,  not dollars,  of credit available?

Did he specifically say she could spend 200 or 300 DOLLARS?  Maybe he meant 200 to 300 baht.  :)

[Granny58]

54 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I loathe David Poor, but if Annie Goldbahts made her living screwing men, many of them married, for money.  She doesn't really have the moral high ground to judge his past.  They are pretty much on the same level and to the extent either deserves a spouse, they deserve each other. 

I think there's a difference.  IF Annie was working as a prostitute, and if that's what he's referencing, then it possibly could have been her only avenue to make a living...and who even knows how old she would have been when (if) she started since sex tourism is pretty common there.  She could have been a young teenager.  But she wasn't cheating on a spouse.  And David Poor would have known about it.  He, on the other hand, routinely cheated on his wife and neglected his children and also destroyed his finances.   Seemingly she had few choices, he willingly made many bad choices.  And kept it from her.   I seriously pity her since this appears to be her best option in life.  He, however, is a bully for the way he treated her during the fight and loathsome.  

52 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

I have more respect for Andre than that whole family put together.

absolutely.  Alpha male for the win. 

[CoachWristletJen]

If Josh really doesn't have upper teeth, that should be their first order of business before sticking needles into his ballsack for some kind of extraction.

Seriously, Aika can find fresher, cheaper sperm from a sperm bank!

[poeticlicensed]

So when the bridal shop declined David Poor's card, they said it was because it was foreign. Huh? When I travel out of the US, my Visa and Amex work all over the world. Why wouldn't the same be true for a credit card issued by a foreign bank? I thought all banks were part of a network. But with David Poor, who knows? And it was totally shitty of him to not make sure the card was working in the US. 

Speaking of the bridal shop, if that dress Annie picked out only cost 318 (including tax), I'll eat my hat. That looked easily like a thousand dollar dress. What kind of games is TLC playing?

[greekmom]

7 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Mahammittttttt "I could teach a course on screwing over an american woman with no self esteem to get that magical green card.  It takes less than 2 years if you do it right."

Luis "Hold my cerveza."

Luis has outdone Mo.

I actually applaud him. He also used religion in his argument. LOL.

Edited December 18, 2017 by greekmom
forgot to add...

[lucy711]

1 hour ago, LocalGovt said:

When I saw the car Evelyn chose to ride in, I was thinking maybe the wedding dress was supposed to be something promoting a 1910's-1920's type wedding. Not something done too much, reallly.  I kind of liked that.

I would have liked it if she had a dress that actually fit her well and was modeled on a 1920s or 1930s style instead of a dress from the 70s or 80s.   It would have been great to see a modern dress that was done with 1920s or 1930s influences.  I thought the car was cool, too.

[CofCinci]

2 minutes ago, lucy711 said:

I would have liked it if she had a dress that actually fit her well and was modeled on a 1920s or 1930s style instead of a dress from the 70s or 80s.   It would have been great to see a modern dress that was done with 1920s or 1930s influences.  I thought the car was cool, too.

Also, her dress seemed discolored. 

[Bugfrey Von]

12 hours ago, DVDFreaker said:

Nicole has a very smart brother, she should listen to him

You're totally right, she should.  Which means she won't.  This dummy relishes the attention she gets from everyone for her bad choices.  So, let me math.  May is 3.  Nicole was with May's father, another "daddy" figure, AND Azan in the course of less than say, 2.5 years?  She's pretty fast moving for a giant toddler sloth.  

I love and adore how much Ricardo and David's friends have Evil-yn's number.  They probably have a running bet as to how long this silly ass marriage is going to last.  Maybe when Evil's mom shows up at their place 8 doors down with lingerie and the Kama sutra.  

[annewithaneee]

Am I the only one who didn't see the producer's reaction as angry?

To me, fourth-wall breaks are always dramatic just by nature (and amazing, I love when they happen), but beyond that I wasn't really getting any angry vibes. Just someone trying to quickly figure out wtf is going on before calling their bosses...she maybe sounded a bit over it or tired, but that's all I was getting from her facial expressions and tone of voice, not angry.

Anyway, whoever that producer is, I think her take on the fuckery behind the scenes would be so much better than whatever Shaun Robinson is going to woodenly read off of cue cards. 

[poeticlicensed]

Re: Josh's teeth. If he has had problems with meth in the past, it's possible his teeth are decayed or missing. 

I have  mixed feelings on Evelyn's dress. My assumption is that it was her mom's. And it does look different that most of the strapless dresses so popular these days. But 1) she should have had it altered, like really altered. It was hanging off her waist and 2) she should have had it altered to make a few changes, like getting rid of the bottom ruffle, maybe making it tea length and adding a crinoline, just something to make it her own. Because the dress was so 1970's Gunne Sax, the modern, very full veil that she paired with it did not work. 

I am on the fence about having Nicole and  Azan back for another season. On one hand, they annoy the crap out of me and the whole cheating thing is so made up for drama, it's transparent. That said, I want to see what happens when Azan gets to the US.  It looks like Nicole lives in a studio. How is that going to work?

[Normades]

2 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

 It looks like Nicole lives in a studio. How is that going to work?

Thinking of Azan living in that studio apartment with Nicole has the song "Nowhere to run to" stuck in my head.  

[Granny58]

34 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Speaking of the bridal shop, if that dress Annie picked out only cost 318 (including tax), I'll eat my hat. That looked easily like a thousand dollar dress. What kind of games is TLC playing?

Possibly second hand.  which is smart. 

[AZChristian]

2 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

If he doesn't have them, that should have been a dead giveaway to Aika about the Porsche she was wanting.

Yep . . . no grill on the car or the mouth.

1 hour ago, CoachWristletJen said:

If Josh really doesn't have upper teeth, that should be their first order of business before sticking needles into his ballsack for some kind of extraction.

Seriously, Aika can find fresher, cheaper sperm from a sperm bank!

Or the nearest bar.

10 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

I am on the fence about having Nicole and  Azan back for another season. 

Time to stick a fork in those two - they're done, at least as far as being interesting enough to continue to filming them.

I thought it was odd that when Nicole was carrying Mae into the restaurant saying, "Want to see Grandma and Poppie?" . . . Mae didn't seem as excited as I would expect to see her, after two months away.  Maybe it was "Take 14" and she was still tired from the flight home.  After all, they used the "jet lag" excuse for the entire time they were in Morocco.  But if that were my grandchild whom I hadn't seen in two months, she'd have been plastered on my lap with my arms around her during the whole meal . . . NOT sitting off in her own world of iPads and headphones.  

[Mu Shu]

10 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Yes the poverty is astounding, she can't go home as it will bring shame on the family as she would be blamed for not making it work with the American. She is stuck and David knows it. Annie may not be perfect but the power dynamic is not in her favour.

David knew all that.  That’s why he chose her.  She has no other options in Thailand, and he can put her to work as a stripper or some such.  David Poor will never have to work now, and can use Annie’s stripper money to go back to Thailand and spend it.  She’ll be used up in a few years with no other options in the U.S.  and stay with him.   

i think all these people are lowlifes.   And what a delight that Tattoo showed up.  

[TipseyGirl]

12 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Funny how David has zero tears despite the boo-hooing and eye rubbing.

His nose isn't red. His eyes aren't wet. 

Run, Annie.

But he was doing a fair amount of slobbering. I guess that counts for something?

[jmonkey]

Molly and Luis: I could hear PTV nation collectively scream "YOU STUPID IDIOT" (in various forms) when Molly dropped the bomb that they were already married. Luis played her like a fiddle. I'm sure he was sweet to her in the beginning and then started revealing his true colors after he got what he wanted. No wonder he hightailed it out of there without any comment. He didn't want to accidentally reveal his con. I wonder if he got counsel from his brother who is already in America on how to run this scam. While Luis is clearly an asshole, he was smart by choosing a wealthy woman and a woman who couldn't chase him around the U.S. Danielle style. Molly has to take care of Kensley and run her business, so it's not like she can immerse herself in this Luis saga. Of course Molly might be in a better position to lawyer up and can hopefully get an annulment. Luis should go back to the D.R. permanently since he misses his family and country so much. I really hope Molly has an air-tight prenup so Luis gets nothing.  She's already spent way too much money on this clown that could've been going towards her daughters who she claims are number one in her life. Yeah, right. I'm sure Olivia has seen Molly crying about a guy on numerous occasions, and that's such a sucky position for the kids to have to play the role of consoler. Molly seems like a good enough person, but she's got one of the worst pickers I've ever seen. I would've felt sorry for her, but her deceit about being married and her poor decision to move Luis in in the first place gets her no sympathy. I bet Luis went directly to Magic City with his brother to drown his sorrows and cry in front of day-shift strippers again. I'm sure he'll thank God for all of it though, so it's okay.

David Poor and Annie GoldBaht: The second most cringeworthy moment for me after finding out Molly and Luis were already married was Chris agreeing to pay for David Poor's wedding. I could hear a collective "NOOOO!!!!" from PTV nation at that one. I can understand Chris wanting to give his friend a hand up, but the sweet firehouse and ad hummer are way beyond generous and sufficient.  I can actually stomach those because Annie needs a roof over her head and Oompa Loompa needs a vehicle to get to and from work to support them. He's not going to take the bus or walk to work, that's for sure. Besides Chris probably gets money for the ads that he just reinvests in David. However, nobody needs a lavish wedding, and it's not like Ashley is not going to see right through it. She knows her dad is a fraud and has no money and that Chris will be the one paying for the whole thing. David Poor revealed his true character when Chris brought up the idea of financing the wedding. Instead of taking the high road and saying "thanks for the offer, but you've already done too much", his face lit up like a Christmas tree. He seriously has no shame and seemingly thinks he still deserves a grandiose wedding despite his poor life choices. I think everyone knew the credit card was going to get declined, and I'm sure this snake oil salesman banked on Nikki paying for the dress. Chris will never see any of the money he has spent on David again and everyone knows it. The other thing that infuriated me was David Poor's grandstanding about Annie going back to Thailand. He knows damn well she's not going back, but he sure enjoyed having the upperhand and beating her over the head with it. She wouldn't be able to face her village if she gave up her golden ticket. Of course David even managed to eke out a few tears for dramatic effect. The poor baby has suffered enough for having sex with prostitutes. I don't think Annie cares so much about him having sex with prostitutes. What upset her was that David wasn't upfront about it. I think he just said he wasn't perfect in past relationships and didn't elaborate. He's such a slimeball.

Nicole and Azan: What was sorely missing in Morocco was a voice of reason. Sure, Azan raised legitimate issues in their relationship, but they were more focused on Nicole than him. Because Azan's family is in on the green card scam and don't speak the same language as Nicole, they don't directly voice the objections that Nicole needs to hear. Thank goodness for her smart brother, Robbalee, and her stepdad. It was refreshing to hear my innerthoughts being voiced to Nicole. Do I think any of it is being internalized? Absolutely not. Talking to Nicole is like talking to a brick wall. They need to talk to her without the presence of food so that we don't have to watch Nicole lick her fingers repeatedly and because I think Nicole is a simpleton who is more focused on the fries in front of her. She's all about escaping reality as evidenced by having no plan of how to take care of three people on a Starbucks barista salary. Kudos to Brother Nicole for understanding that May shouldn't be calling anyone daddy unless they're actually a daddy. I really hope May doesn't remember any of this.

Josh/Aika: I liked Josh's mom. You could tell that she really liked Aika and that she hopes her dumbass son doesn't mess it up like he's done repeatedly in life. His mom realizes Aika is way too good for him. While it's sad that Josh has no contact with his kids, I'm sure there's a very good reason for that. I think of all the dads who get part-time custody of their kids. It's not like the bar is high. If you're not seeing them at all, it's either by choice or because you engaged in illegal activity that would be a danger to your children. I know Josh has a checkered past, so it's probably best that he's not involved in his kid's lives. He has no business procreating and clearly doesn't want to reverse his vasectomy. Aika needs to find another man ASAP. Her clock is ticking. According to that doctor, she's losing eggs by the minute, so time is of the essence. Josh just wanted a real-life Asian porn star for sex and arm candy. The ballbusting reality that Aika is giving him is a major buzzkill for him. She demands action and he will do nothing. Divorce number 3 is inevitable.

David/Evelyn: I like that the groomsmen got help for paying for their tuxedos. If Evelyn wants the wedding to be a certain way, it's only fair to do that. I also liked David standing up for his wife when challenged by Ricardo. I enjoyed Ricardo razzing David about Evelyn calling all the shots. He deserved that for being such a bitch baby about Claremont. David is so blinded by the sex that he wants to give Evelyn whatever she wants at the moment. That won't last long. Evelyn's ride and dress were pretty sweet.

Libby/Andreiiiiiii-Much ado about nothing here. Jen will be at the wedding, and Andrei is still like awesome. I think Jen secretly likes the type of man Andrei is and wants one for herself. That whole testing Andrei thing was immature and stupid. The real life test is Andrei making a life for himself and Libby without financial support from Daddy America. It's not like it's essential for Andrei to get along with Libby's sisters. It certainly helps, but it's not a situation like Molly and Luis had where children are involved. It seems like Libby's sisters want to create drama when there is none. I like Libby and Andrei together and hope their marriage is a success.

Edited December 18, 2017 by jmonkey

[sconstant]

2 hours ago, millennium said:

... helped to reinforce every negative stereotype about the K-1 visa process and foreigners who gain entry by taking advantage of stupid, desperate people ... oh, and she rolled out the red, white and blue carpet for an illegal alien and set him loose with papers that allow him to stay here.

"Illegal alien"?  He was a resident/citizen of another country who came here on a visa.

[AZChristian]

Haven't watched the full episode yet (it's on late here, and I'm old and go to bed early).  But I'm wondering if the courthouse wedding took place pretty quickly after Luis proposed and put that "little ring" (Molly's words) on her finger.  He's manipulative enough to say (right after the cameras left), "Let's go to the courthouse tomorrow and get our license."  Then three days later, "Let's go pick up our marriage license and get married at the courthouse.  We can still film . . . but we'll pretend we're not married yet."

And then the crazy started.

11 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

And what a delight that Tattoo showed up.  

While watching the scene in the tux shop, I kept thinking, "Who does that guy remind me of?"

BINGO!!!

[HappyDancex2]

David and Olive Oyl are so boring their segments are consisting of the groomsmen tux fittings, rushing to get dressed after breakfast ran late and losing the keys to the apartment in Ricardo’s car.  This casting has been a miss.

[Baltimore Betty]

I am aghast.  These idiots shouldn't have the ability to get thru visa process without a psych work up.  

Nicole, Molly, Evelyn etc...just ARGGGGHHHH! I was going to post all of my wonderment about these people but after reading all the posts and clicking like on all of them there is nothing left to say...sort of.

Honestly a wedding dress in 2017 for $318?  That included tax but what about alterations?  Producers messing with us?  That dress fit her perfectly? What are the odds?  Credit card no worky? What are the odds?  Nikki paying for it? What are the odds?  David is gross, mentioning that Annie has a "past" that was so deflective/passive aggressive and kudos to her for not reacting. Why was David all dressed up in his big boy clothes?  Does he have a job?  I loved when he gave Annie the keys to the car, can she drive?  

I think Evelyn's bestie and David Spain's long haired bestie should hook up after the wedding.  They almost could be the same person.

Loved Molly sheepishly telling the producer that they were already married paperwork wise but never turned in the documents (not sure why?)

Josh put on his cleanest jeans for his wedding. Where did Aika's dress come from, there was no talk of shopping for one or the fact she had bought a dress.  Mother Josh seemed a little to happy about everything right after they openly blasted Josh about his past marriages.  

Why do all of these couples go with the 90 days to see if they want to get married, by that point it should be a given since government paperwork has to happen before they even get here.

I would love to see Nicole's brother play an active roll in May's life, he looks like he is 15 years old but has common sense.  Actually, he should play an active roll in Nicole's life too but she doesn't listen to anyone, she is a giant turd.

All these people...just ARRRRGGGHHH!

[Cherrio]

48 minutes ago, annewithaneee said:

Am I the only one who didn't see the producer's reaction as angry?

My first reaction is that Molly went off script and the producer was miffed.

On second thought, I feel its just more bullshit since the producers decide what is shown.   Add in that its TLC which is number one for 100% fake.

[Mu Shu]

On 12/14/2017 at 6:07 PM, DangerousMinds said:

Steady, full time jobs are not necessarily easily found by everyone in this economy.

Especially by someone like Nicole.  The girl ain’t right.  

[Desert Rat]

1 minute ago, Cherrio said:

My first reaction is that Molly went off script and the producer was miffed.

On second thought, I feel its just more bullshit since the producers decide what is shown.   Add in that its TLC which is number one for 100% fake.

Molly's tears looked real to me.  If she was faking, she deserves an academy award. 

[Toaster Strudel]

So what happened with Aika's passed down ring? Are we ever going to know?

[AZChristian]

8 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I loved when he gave Annie the keys to the car, can she drive?  

Where did Aika's dress come from, there was no talk of shopping for one or the fact she had bought a dress. 

I laughed when David went walking off.  I said, "He'll be right back.  That guy is NOT walking far."

Most of the chapels in LV have a room full of dresses that can be rented for weddings.  This one is no less tacky than the rest of them on the racks.  Maybe it was the only one that didn't smell of vomit from drunk women who tie the knot before they sober up.

[annewithaneee]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I loved when he gave Annie the keys to the car, can she drive? 

That was insane! You know what I wouldn't do on-camera, regarding the (ugh) company-branded car my friend was letting me use? Hand off the keys to an unlicensed driver. I definitely wouldn't do that like ten times, just in case the cameras hadn't caught it the first time. I would flip out if I were Chris.

[Baltimore Betty]

1 minute ago, Cherrio said:

My first reaction is that Molly went off script and the producer was miffed.

On second thought, I feel its just more bullshit since the producers decide what is shown.   Add in that its TLC which is number one for 100% fake.

I saw the producer was less than pleased and handled it professionally.  

[AZChristian]

3 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

So what happened with Aika's passed down ring? Are we ever going to know?

Looks like he talked her into an impressive-looking costume wedding ring set (on the same level as the rented wedding gown).  But don't feel bad - he's going to replace it with a REAL ring right after she has their first baby.  (In other words, never.)

 

[bichonblitz]

11 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Well played Luis, well played! Homeboy got Molly to marry him and now he can stay in the USA and live with his brother. I can’t believe a woman with a successful business and nice house got taken like that. How sad she was that desperate and I feel bad for her daughters. The TLC producer seemed pissed.

You don't automatically get to stay in the USA just because you are married. I thought you had to stay married and prove you are living together for a certain number of years before divorcing.  Otherwise, there would be a gazillion people coming here, getting married, divorce a few months later and getting to stay here? Nah. The US gov't can't be that stupid. Can they?? 

[AZChristian]

Isn't this the situation with Mo and Danielle?  She's trying to get him deported because she says he came here fraudulently.  I think Molly just wants to be rid of Luis and the mess she's created.  I just hope it doesn't end up costing her a lot of money that would be better spent on her kids.

And how fast and loud will Father Molly say, "I TOLD YOU!!!!"

[Straycat80]

3 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

You don't automatically get to stay in the USA just because you are married. I thought you had to stay married and prove you are living together for a certain number of years before divorcing.  Otherwise, there would be a gazillion people coming here, getting married, divorce a few months later and getting to stay here? Nah. The US gov't can't be that stupid. Can they?? 

IDK. Didn’t Mo leave Danielle when they got married and lived elsewhere? They got divorced fairly quickly, a couple years (?), and I think he’s still in the US. 

[CoachWristletJen]

52 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

David knew all that.  That’s why he chose her.  She has no other options in Thailand, and he can put her to work as a stripper or some such.  David Poor will never have to work now, and can use Annie’s stripper money to go back to Thailand and spend it.  She’ll be used up in a few years with no other options in the U.S.  and stay with him.   

i think all these people are lowlifes.   And what a delight that Tattoo showed up.  

That's a really horrible thought and yet quite possible.

My first thought was that he might put her to work as a hotel maid or something.

He'll come up with some smarmy excuse like, "I never meant it to be this way for us, but I just can't get up off my ass. I'm pear-shaped."

17 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I saw the producer was less than pleased and handled it professionally.  

That was my impression, too. I don't think this was at all scripted. 

The producer handled it like Molly was a puppy who had peed on the carpet. "Where's the windex and the paper towels? Let's clean this up, stat!"

Does no good to punish the puppy; it won't understand.

[CoachWristletJen]

59 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

David knew all that.  That’s why he chose her.  She has no other options in Thailand, and he can put her to work as a stripper or some such.  David Poor will never have to work now, and can use Annie’s stripper money to go back to Thailand and spend it.  She’ll be used up in a few years with no other options in the U.S.  and stay with him.   

i think all these people are lowlifes.   And what a delight that Tattoo showed up.  

Annie should put her foot down and make David go to work at the strip club...

[AmyBre]

13 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Josh’s mother was right on target.  Aika is a beautiful woman; why did she wait this long to get married and why did she settle on Josh?

Very difficult for Aika to explain and for Josh's Mother to comprehend that Aika worked for tips and and she provided semi-escort services of companionship to poor Tourist saps.   This was Aika's job, not her college job but her serious job.   Josh's mother (though super decent) did not strike me as a world traveler, someone who has been exposed to different cultures and someone who can understand the very limited opportunities for people (more so to women) in poor countries.   Aika intelligently waited for a guy dumb enough so she could puppeteer him with her fake eyelashes and fake contact lenses.  Aika is a player and a player can wait a long time until she finds the right mark.   Aika accepted that Josh won't give her a baby but she's fine with that because Josh is only one part of her master plan.  Josh is her ticket into the US.  In exactly two years -- once her visa is no longer temporary --  Aika will probably divorce Josh and move on to another "mark", some older dude who will provide for her in exchange of her services and quickly fading beauty.    Yes, Aika is that calculating and yes, she is that smart to see how this charade will play two years down the road.

I won't be surprised if in 5 years, Aika owns her own business and gets rich quickly.

13 hours ago, DVDFreaker said:

Me too and the stepdad since he is blunt with Joshua 

Proof once again that stupid people can have nice/smart/empathetic parents.....

[AnnaL]

I know I should not feel sorry for Molly because all red flags were there for her to see and she dismissed them, but alas here I am feeling so bad for her. 

Not only she got played ala Danielle, but she now has to live with the public humiliation of it. 

This is really a cautionary tale for middled age women,  F&^% boys are not marriage material, it doesn't matter how desperately who want it, it just won't happen. These guys are just there to take everything they can and run away and enjoy with someone their own age if not younger. First it was Danielle, now Molly, absolutely terrible. 

[islandgal140]

Luis is a straight up smooth criminal. Not only could he not find a fuck to give, but he couldn't even tell you want a fuck was because it had been so long since he gave one. No wonder he gave not one good damn about planning a wedding. I bet you those papers were signed not long after that park scene with Kensley because that was the last time he actually seemed to try. He damn sure didn't care anymore when they went out to lunch to talk about wedding plans and he was giving all kinds of attitude or went out for ice cream with the kids. Not to mention the strip club. 

You know what, I am super mad at Luis for proving Molly's MAGA dad right!
 

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I laughed when Molly was crying there was a cross behind her, she should have smacked Louis in the head with it.

I laughed when she was in the kitchen talking to her brother and there was this lit up owl plug in behind her. At certain angles it looked like the owl was sitting on her shoulder. Luis would probably thinking the devil was on her shoulder whispering sweet nothing into her ears.

9 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Bahtless David scares me.  He goes to a very domineering unstable personality "If you don't come with me I'll never see you again!"  "Do I need to contact your parents so that someone can pick you up in Thailand?" "Here take the keys and go back to Chris and Nikki's and talk to THEM" " Do we need to talk about YOUR past????" ..... like he's The Man.   As if he is holding all of those cards.    And then he storms off, comes back and goes into the weeping david spiel.   His personality disorder is exhausting.

Bahtless standing there in that ill-fitting suit delivering all these thinly veiled ultimatums made me angry. First off, why the hell did his jobless ass even have on a suit. 

Secondly, that suit looks like he got it from Lane Bryant. You saw in that scene exactly what kind of person he was.

I knew Annie wasn't going nowhere. Bahtless maybe jobless, old, fat, unattractive, but sadly for Annie he is a better option than having to "service" every nasty peen that happens to stroll into a BJ bar in Thailand. 

Chris's attachment to Bahtless continues to baffle. That shit ain't natural. 

[AZChristian]

1 minute ago, AnnaL said:

I know I should not feel sorry for Molly because all red flags were there for her to see and she dismissed them, but alas here I am feeling so bad for her. 

Not only she got played ala Danielle, but she now has to live with the public humiliation of it. 

This is really a cautionary tale for middled age women,  F&^% boys are not marriage material, it doesn't matter how desperately who want it, it just won't happen. These guys are just there to take everything they can and run away and enjoy with someone their own age if not younger. First it was Danielle, now Molly, absolutely terrible. 

Can't you just see her the next time she walks into a bar in the DR and the bartender says, "Hey, pretty lady.  What would you like to drink?"

She'll start screaming, "I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO. NO, I WILL NOT MARRY YOU AND BRING YOU TO THE UNITED STATES!!!!"

[Bubbles1967]

3 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Can't you just see her the next time she walks into a bar in the DR and the bartender says, "Hey, pretty lady.  What would you like to drink?"

She'll start screaming, "I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO. NO, I WILL NOT MARRY YOU AND BRING YOU TO THE UNITED STATES!!!!"

I seriously doubt she will ever step foot in DR again.

Edited December 18, 2017 by Bubbles1967

[CoachWristletJen]

3 minutes ago, AmyBre said:

Very difficult for Aika to explain and for Josh's Mother to comprehend that Aika worked for tips and and she provided semi-escort services of companionship to poor Tourist saps.   This was Aika's job, not her college job but her serious job.   Josh's mother (though super decent) did not strike me as a world traveler, someone who has been exposed to different cultures and someone who can understand the very limited opportunities for people (more so to women) in poor countries.   Aika intelligently waited for a guy dumb enough so she could puppeteer him with her fake eyelashes and fake contact lenses.  Aika is a player and a player can wait a long time until she finds the right mark.   Aika accepted that Josh won't give her a baby but she's fine with that because Josh is only one part of her master plan.  Josh is her ticket into the US.  In exactly two years -- once her visa is no longer temporary --  Aika will probably divorce Josh and move on to another "mark", some older dude who will provide for her in exchange of her services and quickly fading beauty.    Yes, Aika is that calculating and yes, she is that smart to see how this charade will play two years down the road.

I won't be surprised if in 5 years, Aika owns her own business and gets rich quickly.

Aika has always left me uneasy, and I've never been able to buy into her likability even though I wanted to, and still want to. She strikes me as being somewhat hostile, just underneath the surface which is not surprising given that life has probably dealt her a very raw hand.  Unsuspecting Josh has placed himself first in line to be the target of her hostility although she is quick to spread butter on those burns when she realizes that she's gone too far. And she says a lot of stuff like, "I love him. I want to be with him 4ever." Yada yada. 

She will have the next unsuspecting loser waiting in the wings when she jumps ship

[AmyBre]

13 hours ago, Teddybear said:

How is David Poor sponging off his friend a way to show he's "reinvented" himself?  What a loser.  

No man in his right mind gives SO much to a buddy of his for such a prolonged period of time, not even to a real blood brother, without a major reason.   There's something there that is making Chris be so generous to David.   It just doesn't make sense.   Whatever David has on Chris, it's HUGE and I have the feeling that Nikki knows about it also because any other woman, specially a sister, will be up in arms, screaming at Chris WTF is going on between them that he gives David so much.

Unless, TLC/Sharp are the ones truly paying -- to create a storyline -- and Chris is just posing.   Notice how Nikki was truly pissed off about the sponsor (because it directly involves their name/finances) but she doesn't care so much about all the other money they are "giving" to them.        Did anyone else also guess that David's card was going to be declined and that Nikki would come through for her sista.

[brillia79]

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

 

Molly is all kinds of an idiot.   Luis better be extremely good in bed to be worth losing a chunk of her business, possibly her house (please, please please let it all be paid for already so he has no rights to it), and probably have to pay that loser alimony for a huge chunk of time.   She didn't have to marry the guy.    

 

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think they've been married even close to long enough for him to make claims on her home or business. She had both of those before she married him and any income/equity earned in the 3 months they were married isn't going to net him much.

But he can make life really uncomfortable for her. And if he is able to stay, there's the possible 10 year financial obligation if he requires any public assistance.

I can't believe she did something so stupid... oh, wait... I can believe it.

[AmyBre]

12 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wait, if they are already married, why are they on 90DF? 

Molly and Luis simply lied.  Technically, they shouldn't be on 90DF, but since Molly has "worked" for TLC/Sharp before, she knows about the per diem and other money they get for being on 90DF.   TLC/Sharp played along because they created a saleable story line.  Molly got her TLC money and she'll probably list Luis as a deduction on her taxes since they were actually married.  Molly will also get to travel to NYC and spend a couple of days, courtesy of TLC/Sharp.    For Molly, it's a financial win-win though a very poor choice and something that will have a negative effect on her girls.   I could see her older daughter (smart for her age) throwing on her face again that she went on vacation and shagged the first loser who show her attention.   Also, Molly's leaving the girls with what amounted to be a complete stranger is sure to come up in future conversations in that household.

I'm not saying she did it for the money, but definitely for the attention and notoriety such a show gives to her.  (reminds me of Darcy/Jesse and the marketing of their businesses)

[Desert Rat]

4 hours ago, Me from ME said:

Josh's upper teeth situation - I also keep watching for them. Wouldn't he be lisping if he were lacking them entirely?

And how could he chew the fillet he was eating at dinner with mom and step dad if he has no upper teeth?