S19.E03: Den of Temptation

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The houseguests learn about a new twist called "Den of Temptation," a potentially game-changing offer.

 

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[Lamb18]

Poor Megan, Jillian, too. Since when is Josh the wise comforter?? I guess in between bouts of paranoia.  Wow, Elena looks like Nicole just now, sitting on the sloping sofa in profile, black glasses and long blond hair in a pony tail. Cody is so gross. The showmances are kind of boring.  Josh says, "I'm not paranoid." Christmas says, "Yes, you are." Now Josh is pouting because his sob story (missing his parents) isn't as tragic as Mark's (both parents dead).

[Petunia13]

I fucking LOVE Kevin ❤️ 

"I'm worried ...when I haven't heard from my daughters in a while I text and send a few MoJoes" 

People arguing in kitchen then an awkward pause, Kev unbothered, says "hey, let's all have a good time." 

Kevin in disbelief that sex can happen in the BB house "whaaaa are you crazy man?!"

The Temptation Demon and Room remind me of Legends of Hidden Temple ? 

Amazing coincidence Paul got the temptation. 

[Lamb18]

The KFC Zinger sandwich! I wonder if it was created by Zingbot.

I cannot figure out if Megan is lying or really thought Jessica said "Panda," even though she actually said "Pao Pao."  Kevin with the appropriate comment: "Well now that's over, let's have a good night everybody." Aw, Kevin is such a nice dad. He sends his daughters "emojos" when he texts them.

I wish Paul was not always the Greek chorus on events in the house. Kevin makes a better Greek chorus. Well, Paul just announced he has the Have Not Temptation. Well, he's not a Have Not anymore.  Oh, that's what that noise was - a hissing snake. I thought it was a water leak somewhere.  The Den of Temptation is kind of like some Harry Potter room. Ha ha, they think Josh has it because he smiled. Ugh I voted for Cody but I'm glad he didn't get it. Jillian would be more appealing if she could drop the self-pity.

Boo!! America voted for Paul! Spooky music now.  This is a Harry Potter scene! Maybe it's the Memory potion!  This Den of Temptation thing is funny.

Oooh - America's vote! What's the next thing? Ring of Replacement. Must be able to replace a nom with someone else.  Alex should feel honored - Cody more respect for her than anyone else in the house. Lucky girl!  I hope she laughs at him. I like Alex!  Cody is almost moved during the nomination ceremony - his voice shook a little bit! Alex should be honored that he nominated her out of respect and that he didn't want to back door her.

[Callaphera]

Paul. Paul gets to come in the house and gets automatic safety and the ability to save half the house from the first eviction. Paul is a Have Not, takes the temptation, and picks the right box, putting him back in a comfy bed and letting him eat real food. Paul gets the first Den of Temptation and gets three weeks of safety. 

Come. On.

[Dewey Decimate]

Neanderthal-foreheaded Cody talking about how Jessica is wrapping herself in freedom made me want to puke. I have a gut feeling that if said woman in said garment were overweight or part of the "outcasts", he'd be sneeringly disgusted at how disrespectful it is. I hate that dead-eyed POS.

Mark's giving Josh a whopping serving of humility and perspective was wicked poignant. I kinda like that giant teddy bear. Except that he seems unilaterally smitten with freakishly-augmented-lip girl.

Pao Pao = panda? This is what you get when someone's a recruit and doesn't know their BB history. (Jury's still out on whether Hootie McBooberson equating one Asian-American woman with another is still a bit racist.)

Who wants to bet that as Paul announced his choice of orange, Alison Grodner was behind the HN wall, slipping the green disc into that spike?

Thought I'd dislike Kevin from his first ep weirdness, but I'm diggin' the guy a lot. The Temptations? Mojos? BWAH!! So far I'm pro-Mark, Christmas, and Kevin. If Ramses can contain his twee-ness and Dom her religiosity, I might also be on board with those two.

[PaperTree]

Well that was enlightening.

Megan should not have gone to Alex, even if Jessica really said "panda".  Shut up and sit back and watch.  Jessica is not on the block.  You are!  

Then of course her misunderstanding totally torched her.  Oh well.

No surprise Paul got the temptation choice and then took it.  The deflection to Josh is just dumb luck.

"The Ring of Replacement" sounds like a Veto with nominating privileges.

Kevin is hilarious.  Cody is creepy.  He's gotta go.  I hope Alex is the one to get him booted.

Jillian annoys the crap out of me, so do Elena's "hot lips".

Interesting how the person getting the consequence from the temptee is randomly chosen.  No using it to nail a target.

[ByaNose]

Cody is creepy & has issues. He needs to leave soon. I will say he has good taste in woman though. I think Jessica is beautiful.

[Lady Calypso]

Well, that was the end of Megan. I was really growing to like her, but clearly this was just not her thing. At least she discovered it early enough in the game, but it still felt like it was a waste. From the DR that she gave, it did seem like she truly believed that Jessica called Alex "Panda" instead of Pao Pao. Since they were all whispering, it's possible that she genuinely misheard it, or else I don't think she'd be as upset as she was in the DR and she wouldn't be adamant that she was right. Well, maybe she could have because her accusation really could have gone wrong. Either way, Jessica seemed way too smug, as did Cody, after Megan left the game. It's as if they were thinking "Round one won. Round two, let's go!" and it really put me off of the whole situation. Seeing as Megan was involved in multiple fights, I do think part of it could also be on her. Maybe her personality is a type that rubs people the wrong way. 

Kevin's great. I like how concerned he is for everyone. He really is such a dad. 

Josh's paranoia is just settling beyond the surface, waiting to pop out again. I like how Mark shut it all down ("you miss your parents? Well, you at least get to see them again! Look beyond the game!"), basically telling him that the game is truly not that important. 

So, surprise surprise, Paul gets the temptation to protect himself for three weeks. He also conviently picks the right Get Out of Have Not escape card, and it sounds like he's immune to the punishment. Paul's just getting to coast through to jury, isn't he? Well, close to jury. Everything's coming up Paul.

Hilarious that Cody seems more interested in Alex than Jessica, even from the little we've seen of both. Is it just me, or did Cody actually express some emotion by sounding like he was going to cry when he was picking his replacement nominee? He really does seem to respect her. But maybe if Alex didn't go brutally honest and admit that she was gunning for all of them, maybe she could have stayed off the block.

Not very many I'm loving right now. Christmas, Mark, Kevin, and Jason seem pretty cool so far, though. 

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, Lady Calypso said:

Hilarious that Cody seems more interested in Alex than Jessica, even from the little we've seen of both. Is it just me, or did Cody actually express some emotion by sounding like he was going to cry when he was picking his replacement nominee? He really does seem to respect her. But maybe if Alex didn't go brutally honest and admit that she was gunning for all of them, maybe she could have stayed off the block.

I figure that Jessica is your classic hot girl and Cody is really attracted to that. But he thinks Alex has a great personality and attitude and he's also attracted to that. It's like it's never occurred to him that you can be attracted to more than just something physical. But there's still boobs in his face so that trumps everything. 

And yeah, I thought he sounded a little choked up about it, too. It threw me for a second. Like, I just fell asleep every time you did a DR session (at least, until I started mentally replacing everything he says with "beep boop, I'm a robot") and all of a sudden, you've got a tear in your eye because you're nominating someone? Did his programming glitch there for a second?

[ByaNose]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I figure that Jessica is your classic hot girl and Cody is really attracted to that. But he thinks Alex has a great personality and attitude and he's also attracted to that. It's like it's never occurred to him that you can be attracted to more than just something physical. But there's still boobs in his face so that trumps everything. 

And yeah, I thought he sounded a little choked up about it, too. It threw me for a second. Like, I just fell asleep every time you did a DR session (at least, until I started mentally replacing everything he says with "beep boop, I'm a robot") and all of a sudden, you've got a tear in your eye because you're nominating someone? Did his programming glitch there for a second?

Yeah, he was definitely on the verge of tears. He has real emotions. Shocking!!! LOL!!!  

[Jel]

I have to say that episode actually made me feel a little uncomfortable.   Did not enjoy.

Cody delivers his nomination speeches like he's saying, "As head of household, it is my job is to draw a knife across your throat and then watch as the blood drains out sufficiently so that the remaining volume is no longer enough to sustain life.

I find him cold is what I am saying!

Also I dislike his girlfriend. 

Edited July 3, 2017 by Jel

[Jel]

23 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Paul. Paul gets to come in the house and gets automatic safety and the ability to save half the house from the first eviction. Paul is a Have Not, takes the temptation, and picks the right box, putting him back in a comfy bed and letting him eat real food. Paul gets the first Den of Temptation and gets three weeks of safety. 

Come. On.

Now. 

Why do they even bother with this stuff -- it's embarrassing for everyone that they think we don't notice.

[mojoween]

Kids.  Calling Alex Pao-Pao is ALSO not ok.  

Regardless, it was interesting that Paul of all people ratted Megan out to Cody.  Paul must really think that gentleman's agreement is valid.

A cardigan with no undershirt is creepy.

Edited July 3, 2017 by mojoween

[Katesus7]

So here's my thing. I do believe Megan misheard, and while I personally like the people who are fans, and know who  past houseguests are, it's not a requirement, so I can't put Megan not knowing who Pao Pao was on her.  But I DO put Jessica not fessing up to the fact that she refers to Alex as Pao Pao on her. Because that could have cleared everything up. And it clearly wasn't a one-off, so it wasn't just Jessica not realizing she said that. And it clearly wasn't a compliment on Jessica's part, and while I am in no way calling her a racist, it's not a good look.  No, Jessica knew what she was doing, and let Megan hang. I'm a bit disappointed in Alex not listening more to Megan, but it is week one, Megan was Public enemy #1 and Alex was not ready to commit. 

As for the rest of it? Meh, of course Paul was going to get three weeks safety. And Cody is so creepy.

[Star Aristille]

Well, shoot.  I was looking forward to seeing whether or not the Oddball Alliance could fight their way out of it and make it a few weeks together.  But at least Megan got out now before the game got really crazy.  Still, this proves that she really can't work well with other women.

I don't like that another nominee had to be chosen with Megan's departure.  They should've handled it like they did with Chima back in BB11 -- declared Cody's HoH over since one of his nominees left, have a new competition, crown a new HoH, and nominate two new nominees.

[Cherry Cola]

Cody wants Alex so bad.  She is adorable, and likeable.  Jessica seems bratty.  

The den is creepy

I enjoy Kevin.  He is funny and seems like everyone likes him too. 

[Skyfall]

Did I miss something? Why is everyone calling Cody creepy? Robotic yes, but I'm not getting the creepy factor.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Skyfall

[Wandering Snark]

56 minutes ago, Dewey Decimate said:

Who wants to bet that as Paul announced his choice of orange, Alison Grodner was behind the HN wall, slipping the green disc into that spike?

Nah, they wouldn't have let it go that far. The second Paul went for it they put safety chips in each box. Too easy. Just like they decided to give Paul safety for three weeks with this 'Den of Whatever We Want to Do' scam. Tilt the game however we want, nothing new.

I am suddenly disliking everyone in a 'showmance'.

Sad exit though for Megan but yeah she couldn't handle it and felt like the whole house was against her.

[vb68]

Well, that was very sad about Megan. Ii agree that she shouldn't have said anything, but I think her genuinely intentions were sincere and she was mistaken.

But that was a super bad edit for Jessica. Notice that neither she or anyone else was going to be forthcoming with what she actually said to clarify the situation. It doesn't show her in a good light at all. And I heard someone else use it too. Raven?

On the other hand, I thought Mark came off super sympathetic telling his family background to Josh. i can see him winning the Replacement Temptation.

Cody was kinda skeevy with trying to flatter Alex and then nominating her. His interactions with others in general are often odd and seem a little off to me.

Edited July 3, 2017 by vb68

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, PaperTree said:

Interesting how the person getting the consequence from the temptee is randomly chosen.  No using it to nail a target.

I'll believe it's random when Paul is randomly chosen.  But then I'm sure "America" will choose Paul every week for the temptation.  

[Lamb18]

America can't choose Paul every week because a house guest can't win more than one.

[peachmangosteen]

3 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

But then I'm sure "America" will choose Paul every week for the temptation.  

Once you get a Temptation you can't get another one, which is kind of the bright side of Paul getting the first one.

Edited July 3, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

Kids.  Calling Alex Pao-Pao is ALSO not ok.  

Thank you!!  Megan may have misunderstood the word, but she certainly correctly identified the intention.  Jessica was clearly bigoted in what she said.  Asians are not interchangeable, and refusing to use someone's actual name is a form of denigration.  She is a nasty piece of work, IMO, and I'm so disappointed Alex fell for it.  Gee, whatever your name is, I just didn't want to take your Cody time away.  That just wouldn't have been fair!  

And Raven can take a hike. She egged Jessica on, only later to call Alex Pao Pao, too.  And her bitchy bye girl to Megan's gray picture earned a fuck you from me. 

I hope to be saying bye girl to both. ASAP. 

6 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

America can't choose Paul every week because a house guest can't win more than one.

PTL, that's phenomenal to hear.   Let's see if that rule changes if Paul is ever in danger. 

[Lamb18]

The Ring of Temptation doesn't seem that great. You can just play in POV - swap yourself in for another house guest. Well, actually I do see the benefit of this one. If there's someone on the block that the temptation holder wants out, the temptation holder can remove that person from POV so there's no chance the person can get POV.  I wonder if winning the temptation means immunity from nomination. Because the temptation winner could also play POV in order to help out a friend who's nominated. This is a serious decision. I have to think about it and vote before 11:00 pm central so I don't lose today's votes.

[Star Aristille]

2 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

The Ring of Temptation doesn't seem that great. You can just play in POV - swap yourself in for another house guest. Well, actually I do see the benefit of this one. If there's someone on the block that the temptation holder wants out, the temptation holder can remove that person from POV so there's no chance the person can get POV.

Wrong.  Only one of the three chosen by random draw can be swapped out.

[RedheadZombie]

48 minutes ago, Wandering Snark said:

Nah, they wouldn't have let it go that far. The second Paul went for it they put safety chips in each box. Too easy. Just like they decided to give Paul safety for three weeks with this 'Den of Whatever We Want to Do' scam. Tilt the game however we want, nothing new.

I also find it suspicious that Paul held off on volunteering until just one more person was needed, then made a martyr-like dramatic sacrifice.  It was so showy, it was almost like he knew it wouldn't last the day. 

[Wings]

We know all reality TV is manipulated but BB takes this to new heights.  

I felt badly for Meagan.  Yes she should have kept her mouth shut but that was only one thing.  Josh had a gut feeling, maybe a message from god,  not to trust her.  There was no logical reason!   His dim little mind got an idea, born from paranoia, she was a bad seed.  Well, we were not shown a reason anyway.  They had been in the house for 9 days before the first episode aired so who knows what Josh thought he saw.  

Edited July 3, 2017 by wings707

[Joimiaroxeu]

Marlena, Maven, and Jody. Okay then. One would think as a military guy Cody would object to being associated with the the name Jody in a romantic sense.

Ditto comments upthread, I still think Jessica might be a little racist though. Calling one Asian woman by another Asian woman's name is iffy, IMO, and it's not clear to me whether Alex is really okay with it. I guess we'll see how things go with Jessica and whether we do have another Aaryn in the house.

Can't the Have Nots flip those spiked beds over? Or sleep on the floor?

I'm liking Kevin's sartorial style. He wears his clothes well, even the really casual stuff.

Right now I guess I'm mostly pulling for Alex because she's consistently had the stones to risk telling the Codybot to go eff himself.

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Kevin in disbelief that sex can happen in the BB house "whaaaa are you crazy man?!"

Yeah, I'm thinking Kevin is probably a loud and/or active lover, and that would totally not work in the BB house unless you're an exhibitionist and have no shame. As it is the houseguests who have sex under the blankets are basically doing softcore porn on night vision camera. That stuff will be on the internet forever.

[ottoDbusdriver]

When everyone was in the Have Not room and Paul was reading the Have Not Temptation directions, did they blur Christmas' butt ?  
Because when the camera cut to a different view you could clearly see her butt unblurred in the reflection in the mirror.   I guess it depends on proximity to the foreground of the shot.

It really would have helped if we, the audience, knew which numbers represented which houseguest in the Den of Temptation.  Otherwise, the producers can basically pick anyone.

[Lamima]

Don't like any of the romances. Cody is unsettling and seems to think he can manipulate Alex with his awesomeness (good on her for calling BS). Also get the feeling he wants the two girls fighting over him or something...ick. His girl, whatever her name is...Jessica?, is a mean girl as are the other two. Fake lips girl is just too distracting to watch. And, yes I feel for Mark, but jeesh....why can't a guy miss his family? Mark was a bit over the top.

Would be liking Paul this go 'round except that I too feel like it's awfully convenient all the things that have gone his way. Show making me root against him. But he, and this is sad, is more likable than most of those other dopes. I like Kevin and....maybe rodeo guy....maybe the Cosplay guy. Kinda like Alex but was disappointed she quickly turned on her friend and bought Jessica's crap. Seemed a little 'high school' there. I do think Megan truly misremembered and wasn't lying intentionally. I also think Jessica was a bit sketch to call Alex Pao Pao and my daughter told me that Alex is not the only minority houseguest she calls another name. 

Edited July 3, 2017 by Lamima

[Lady Calypso]

9 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Ditto comments upthread, I still think Jessica might be a little racist though. Calling one Asian woman by another Asian woman's name is iffy, IMO, and it's not clear to me whether Alex is really okay with it. I guess we'll see how things go with Jessica and whether we do have another Aaryn in the house.

You know, part of me wants to give Jessica the benefit of the doubt since Alex does look and sound an awful lot like Pao Pao (as seen by the quick shot-by-shot comparison between the two in this episode), and that she'd do it to anyone that looked like another BB contestant. But with her not even telling Alex the truth about what Megan might have heard, how others were also joining in on the constant Alex/Pao Pao name calling, and Jessica seeming smug about that fight, even with her stating that she really didn't want Megan to be crying in the DR ("I'm happy with people turning on Megan and her spreading LIES, even though I didn't tell the whole truth to Alex or try to give Megan the benefit of the doubt...but I TOTALLY didn't want her to be crying....but ooops, she's gone. Let's celebrate!"), it just doesn't make me certain that Jessica's comparison of Alex with Pao Pao was all that innocent. 

At the very least, she definitely doesn't seem to like Alex. And with knowing that Cody/Jessica are in some sort of showmance, and Cody has been expressing some respect toward Alex, judging by Jessica's smug ass grin at the end of the episode when Alex was nominated, I can't really blame Megan for jumping to the conclusion that Jessica was a little racist toward Alex in some way, intentional or not. But I think I need to see more of Jessica, to determine her real feelings on Alex and to see how she's like as the episodes go on. I definitely don't have a good vibe of her, though. She definitely seemed to be subtly insulting Alex by calling her by another past contestant. 

[escape]

I don't feel sorry for Megan.  I think she knew that she was caught in a lie - and had to leave.

I don't like Jessica, but Alex was right - that if Jessica was guilty, she wouldn't confront her knowing what was said will be on TV.

I don't think Cody is manipulating Alex.  I do think he does like and respect her.

This just confirms what a really smart player Alex is.  The worse play for her game would have to believe Megan - and be suck up in the drama.

[jumper sage]

3 hours ago, PaperTree said:

The deflection to Josh is just dumb luck.

He is the gift that keeps on giving.  Loved when he took the golden egg and had no idea that Kevin was supposed to throw the comp.  So he saved Kevin.  Then with his grinning everyone thinks he received the temptation.

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Right now I guess I'm mostly pulling for Alex because she's consistently had the stones to risk telling the Codybot to go eff himself.

I hope she is saved and then wins HoH and gets rid of that whole little group, or at least Cody.  I can't stand Cody.  He is like friendly fire about to happen.  @Skyfall, Cody is creepy because he acts like he would climb the clock tower at any moment and thinks he can use Jessica while pining for Alex.

50 minutes ago, escape said:

I don't like Jessica, but Alex was right - that if Jessica was guilty, she wouldn't confront her knowing what was said will be on TV.

See, you missed where Jessica said she was going to lie about that using the exact same argument.  WHO would believe it...?  Anyone who could not see the show until after they are gone.

This amulet of power to keep Paul safe for the next 3 evictions - I think the best use this week would be if say Alex comes down and then Cody backdoors Paul and at that time Paul whips out the amulet and Cody has to pick someone else.  At this time both Paul and Alex are safe.  I would love a blindside on Cody.

[The Companion]

Yeah, Jessica didn't mean to make her cry, even though she had to know what the misunderstanding stemmed from. Ugh. Poor Megan had to be so confused. From her perspective, she gets attacked personally twice within 5 days and then she repeats something she overhears and misunderstands and she gets yelled at again. 

Alex could have avoided telling Cody he was a target, but I suspect he would ultimately know it was untrue and respect her less. I think he likes that she is so frank about her thoughts.

[NeverLate]

Paul is safe for three evictions, gosh, never would I have guessed that BB..sheesh

I like Alex, she doesn't back down! Jillian, meh, I doubt the house would miss her if she goes

Three hookups in the first week, seriously stupid! 

Is that creepy temptation voice over,  on all season, yuck! Sounds horrible, and its going to be easy to manipulate who stays and who goes.:(  ( jmho)

 

Its like Pandora's box on steroids, this season..zzzzz

[Nashville]

With regards to Megan, all I can say is - what a sad fucking mess. 

All it probably would have taken to resolve the situation would have been for one - just ONE - person to say, "Oh, this was all just a misunderstanding - what Megan heard as 'Panda' was actually Jessica saying 'Pao Pao' - you know, from Season 16?" 

But nobody did - which is telling in and of itself.

Granted this may have happened and simply ended up on the cutting room floor - but that would be a helluva thing to leave out.

And Jessica's uncontained glee at the ensuing mayhem was unseemly, to say the least.

[Brian Cronin]

This show does such a pathetic job at vetting people. "Shh...don't tell us if you're suffering from a serious trauma, because then we won't be able to put you on the show." 

I don't mind Paul getting safety because, come on, a vet ain't going in the first three weeks anyways. And now he can't get another temptation (until, of course, they change the rules to help him later).

By the way, Paul, "Listen to me, I almost won" really isn't as impressive as you think it sounds.

[Wandering Snark]

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

I don't mind Paul getting safety because, come on, a vet ain't going in the first three weeks anyways. And now he can't get another temptation (until, of course, they change the rules to help him later).

Yeah, I'd bet the Den will last... about three weeks, then they will find some other "twist" to keep Their Boy safe.

Random note, I can't with the rodeo clown because he reminds me too much of Andy, physically.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Wandering Snark

[Pondlass1]

How are they supposed to sleep on those beds?  No one seemed particularly bothered.  Can they sleep in the comfy beds while the owner is awake or is that not allowed?  

[Joimiaroxeu]

Based on what was shown I don't see why Megan had to leave unless she really couldn't take the pressure of being momentarily ostracized. Lying and stoking drama is SOP in this game. I think a more socially savvy person with some intestinal fortitude could've ridden it out and possibly even deflected the storm to someone else. She likely just chickened out and opted to leave. Otherwise, maybe the producers found out something about Megan's personal life that was going to blow up and cause problems for the show.

[diana]

I found it interesting Megan's departure was due to "an urgent personal matter." I wonder why they kept it so vague, at least to us, the audience.

[poopchute]

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really would have helped if we, the audience, knew which numbers represented which houseguest in the Den of Temptation.  Otherwise, the producers can basically pick anyone.

Yeah, I had a problem with this too. If the person in the den of temptation can't see the numbers, why can't it be names instead of numbers? They can't see it anyway. 

[BodhiGurl]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Based on what was shown I don't see why Megan had to leave unless she really couldn't take the pressure of being momentarily ostracized. Lying and stoking drama is SOP in this game. I think a more socially savvy person with some intestinal fortitude could've ridden it out and possibly even deflected the storm to someone else. She likely just chickened out and opted to leave. Otherwise, maybe the producers found out something about Megan's personal life that was going to blow up and cause problems for the show.

Accd to reports, she had a panic attack and was sent to the hospital (I presume during the "hours"  the HGs thought she was in the DR) she suffers from PTSD that is a result of sexual assault while in the military...the altercations with the various house guests fired up her PTSD.... the producers and Megan felt it was best she exit the show...I believe people.com has an article.

[iMonrey]

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Paul. Paul gets to come in the house and gets automatic safety and the ability to save half the house from the first eviction. Paul is a Have Not, takes the temptation, and picks the right box, putting him back in a comfy bed and letting him eat real food. Paul gets the first Den of Temptation and gets three weeks of safety. 

Come. On.

You said it for me. This is such utter bullshit. The blatant manipulation of this game by the producers is appalling. 

I'm also already sick of the same old cliques we get every single season. The "cool" kids - the jocks and the babes - take control of the game very early and the "outsiders" - the people who are actually interesting . . . get picked off one by one. It's so tedious.

Clearly Cody expects all the competitions to be physical (which of course would favor him). Which is why he thinks Alex is the only threat not in his alliance who could win a competition. Which is the only reason he "respects" her. But as much as it might be tempting to cheer her on for not buying into his crap, I think it was awfully stupid of her to throw that olive branch back in his face and outright admit she would target him when he is in the midst of choosing a replacement nominee. Pick your time and place, lady.

I hope the next HoH competition is a simple question and answer thing and in no way physical and someone random like Ramses wins it, but I'm not holding my breath. 

[LGGirl]

Kevin is interesting but couldn't they pick an older person that KNEW the game?   And wouldn't be nice if they had more than one hamster that was over 40?

i just want Alex to win just by her attitude towards Cody. 

 

Jessica is turning in to the queen bee mean girl.  

[Wings]

9 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

This show does such a pathetic job at vetting people. "Shh...don't tell us if you're suffering from a serious trauma, because then we won't be able to put you on the show." 

Ohhhh, they do vetting and look for problems to cast! 

[Mumbles]

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Jury's still out on whether Hootie McBooberson equating one Asian-American woman with another is still a bit racist.)

Yeah I can see both sides of this. And I have to admit when I saw Alex's intro piece on Wednesday I thought, a feisty in-your-face petite Asian woman, she kind of reminds me of Pao Pao. I mean, if someone had compared Alex to mellow Helen from the terrible season a few years ago, I would say that was bunching Asian women together. But that said, Jessica just doesn't seem to be the most enlightened person in the world.

I am rooting for Alex now, for being smart enough to see the three-guy threat (but why the hell did she say it to Cody?)

[jumper sage]

1 hour ago, poopchute said:

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really would have helped if we, the audience, knew which numbers represented which houseguest in the Den of Temptation.  Otherwise, the producers can basically pick anyone.

Yeah, I had a problem with this too. If the person in the den of temptation can't see the numbers, why can't it be names instead of numbers? They can't see it anyway. 

The only thing I can come up with is that the order in which they were called into the den is the number.  So who was called in second?