S09.E20: The Finale - "Chateau She Did That"

[psychoticstate]

Was Block speaking English?  I think I needed a translator for about 90% of what was coming out of his mouth.  I give Riley credit for understanding that mumbling.  She clearly has little interest in having a relationship with her sperm donor.  I say let her be. Todd appears to be a better father figure to her than that big dummy (TM Cynthia.)   

Porsha's tears at her father's grave seemed fake.

Phaedra is totally shady.  How dreadful.

Kandi has some awesome zingers tonight. She looks great in her THs. 

Why does Sheree need that big old place?  Why would you plan a party before your house is completely done? 

Kenya was stirring up shit but Kim should have stayed out of it.  And her face is scary.

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3 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I spot with my little eye: Toya! Got some Married 2 Medicine up in this bitch.  

You heard!?! You had first hand knowledge!

Quad was there too...I feel like this was strictly crossover filming. As status conscious as these women (especially broke ass Toya) are, we sho nuff never saw them filming down at Sheree's pot'ment with the air mattress and Kraft singles like good ride or die girlfriends would.

3 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Yes, Sheree came to Kenya's housewarming and did act ugly, but I thought we were discussing episode 20 now.

Can't wait for the reunion.

Is Kandi on medication?  Her face looks bloated.

Episode number notwithstanding, the question was, (paraphrased) who comes to someone's housewarming to talk shit? The answer is Sheree. Turnabout is fair play. So glad she has gotten the editing drag the last few episodes, from the raggedy worn out "mansion" to the "condo" (potment with the air mattresses) to the exposed insulation this week after trying to talk about Kenya's lack of baseboards. At least the bitch got drywall in every room. They even drug her in the wrap up...Sheree supposedly lives in the Chateau,despite rumors to the contrary...

3 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I love M2M but Heavenly would make a fantastic replacement for Phaedra on RHOA. 

I have a love hate relationship with Heavenly, and wouldn't necessarily want to see her on tv again, but at least she doesn't lie like Phaedra. 

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

There is no privilege when you have an entire camera crew in the room. Phaedra's problem has always been that she thinks she's smarter than everyone, not just her castmates.

I'm pretty sure Justin Jedlica, the human Ken doll, was there too.

The party was amazing and over the top, but as always so Sheree meaning that it was both extravagant and half-assed additionally money spent on stupid shit. Sheree has a book out. This party should have been a book launch party.

Sorry these are quote replied somewhat out of order, but...Was interesting to see people that obviously aren't friends of Sheree. Like human Ken doll and the scores of extras who disappeared from the scene when Sheree was on the steps doing her Scarlett O'Hara/Miss Celie "Tara is home/by God I'm here" speech. 

49 minutes ago, Maharincess said:

I know I'm the only one but I love Kim. She has always been my favorite Housewife across the board.  I hope she comes back full time. 

Kandi's atrocious grammar makes me cringe every episode.  She sounds so ignorant when she speaks.   Her kid is cute though, I just hope she's not the one to teach him how to talk. 

I used to like Kim, but her trashy opportunism got to be too much for me. 

I can't say that Kandi's grammar is any worse than any of the other women on the show, including the one with multiple degrees. I can say, however, that despite her grammar, Kandi has been the most productive and prosperous one there. 

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[For Cereals]

I know there's been so much anticipation/discussion about Chateau McMansion, but to make such a big deal about it...you're not curing cancer.  Go on and on about how much you did if you went back to school, put your kids through school, started a foundation, etc. etc. etc...This wasn't even Vanderpump-level house porn.

[Jamie Satyr]

11 minutes ago, Denim Dreams said:

I know there's been so much anticipation/discussion about Chateau McMansion, but to make such a big deal about it...you're not curing cancer.  Go on and on about how much you did if you went back to school, put your kids through school, started a foundation, etc. etc. etc...This wasn't even Vanderpump-level house porn.

It's still mused that she isn't living there! She's so proud of being able to finally open that McMansion; why in the world would she want something that big for herself? It just doesn't make sense to me; who's gonna clean it? Without constant care, that place will turn into a DUMP before you know it! That unfinished basement might be the saving grace after all's said and done! lol! ;-)

[escape]

1 hour ago, Maharincess said:

Kandi's atrocious grammar makes me cringe every episode.  She sounds so ignorant when she speaks.   Her kid is cute though, I just hope she's not the one to teach him how to talk. 

Well, she can't be all that ignorant - to get writing credits on Ed Sheeran's mega hit song Shape Of You.

[AndySmith]

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Sheree supposedly lives in the Chateau,despite rumors to the contrary

Does living in a tent on the land the Chateau occupies count as living in the Chateau itself?

[Hockey Addict]

Kenya grates on my nerves to no end!

Chateau Sheree? Glad it's come this far. That's all.

Kim? What does she do besides have babies?

[DrivingSideways]

I don't think Shape of You and No Scrubs sound anything alike?  I was surprised that Kandi got a writing credit for that.

Phaedra is disgusting.  I cannot wait for the reunion!

[RealReality]

I'm surprised that Kandi allowed that scene with Riley to be filmed, and it kind of lowers my opinion of her.  For as much as I don't particularly care for Riley, I don't like seeing her put in a position of awkwardness and ridicule.  Which is what happened with the song, and during the scene with her father.  Its already a tough situation for a kid in her position, and now you have a camera crew there in your face?  Like....why Kandi?  I get you're trying to make Riley happen, and maybe she will, but is nothing sacred?

Oh Sheree....all that money spent on a housewarming and your ponytail was such a mess!  She shouldn't have broken up with Miss Lawrence.

For her sake, I hope she sells that house.  At this point in her life, Sheree should realize that nothing lasts forever and she should be pocketing as much of her HW money as she can for a rainy day.  At best, she should get a luxury apartment in the city, not this monster of a house in the middle of the woods.  I still prefer Kenyas modern house to Sheree's, but thats just me.  And the Chateau is very pretty.

LOL @ Kenya and her shade throwing.  

Phaedra ought to be ashamed of herself.  Talking all that mess about how Kandi must have been out to hurt her while, at the same time she is inserting herself into Johnnys claim against her.  If Kandi is low down than so are you!  There is nothing professional about the way Phaedra behaved, and then to try to pull some ethics card when Kandi asked her about it....pfft....oh suddenly you got ethics when you're questioned?  Typical Phaedra.

As for Kim Z.  I really hope she isn't on too much next season.  I hate her, and I think she and her husband are undercover racists.

[Jamie Satyr]

18 minutes ago, DrivingSideways said:

I don't think Shape of You and No Scrubs sound anything alike?  I was surprised that Kandi got a writing credit for that.

Phaedra is disgusting.  I cannot wait for the reunion!

I think that's why Phaedra's history! She finally lost her fk'n mind and thought her LIES and resentment towards the other ladies would play! What a fool! I'm so glad she's going! She needs to take Porsha along with her! The shrieking of Sheree makes me want her to leave as well! Why does she need to screech every time she's greeting people? My ears are burning! I saw the M2M crew along with Quad! ;-(

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[RealReality]

5 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

That's the popular thing to do on this show. Everyone never has it completed until seconds before the party if they are lucky. You would think since they schedule these things ahead of time they would make sure everything is done in time.

 

5 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Apparently having major appliances falls under the category of "decorating" to Sheree.

I just don't understand this.  Like why would you ever schedule a party without the appliances being there like a few days or a week in advance?  Why would those go in last?  Aren't those pretty important, like why would you wait until the last minute to have a refrigerator?

4 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Kenya is so common going in the basement, I would have locked her ass down there for a few hours.

I love Kenya, but that would have been funny as all hell

4 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Now Porscha is marketing a cleanse called The Dump.  Makes me want to rush right on out and get some the next time I'm trapped in the house during a blizzard.

Speaking of Porsha, why: a) is Todd always eating in his scenes and b) why is she wearing a ballgown and he is wearing jeans and a sweater.  They should have coordinated.  Original Todd was wearing jeans, but Kandi's dress wasn't a full length gown so it worked.

4 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I'm pretty sure Justin Jedlica, the human Ken doll, was there too.

I knew I knew that guy!!!

3 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I wish Kim Z would go have another 12 or 15 kids and get off my tv.  

Yes please.  I was so happy when she got her own show so I could not watch it.  Kim and her wonky looking husband need to go back there.

2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Would attorney-client privilege even apply to Phaedra and Johnnie?  I thought she declined to represent him and just referred him to another firm.

I guess it doesn't really matter either way. She is still a petty, vindictive bitch.

I do think confidentiality/ac privilege (one or both) applies when you consult someone.  However, I believe that the confidentiality/privilege belongs to the client, not the attorney.  And if Johnny waived that by having his sessions with Phaedra filmed for national TV then I guess I don't see the problem.  I believe a confidential communication is one that you have to have meant to be confidential.  You can hardly mean for something to be confidential when you're allowing a camera crew to film it and air it to millions of people.

[Teddybear]

I can't get over how Sheree looks on WWHL.  She looks like a completely different person for some reason and I can't tell why.  

[Jamie Satyr]

Just now, Teddybear said:

I can't get over how Sheree looks on WWHL.  She looks like a completely different person for some reason and I can't tell why.  

She can look any kind of way she wants; still a lowlife, ratchet b!tch! Her friends and assistants aren't any better running behind Sheree telling her everything Kenya said just to inflame the broad! Talk about ratchet..! ;-)

[Maharincess]

1 hour ago, escape said:

Well, she can't be all that ignorant - to get writing credits on Ed Sheeran's mega hit song Shape Of You.

That's what I mean. She's a smart woman but the way she speaks makes her sound stupid.  I think her grammar is much, much worse than the others in the show.  The constant double negatives drive me up the wall. 

[Jamie Satyr]

Just now, Maharincess said:

That's what I mean. She's a smart woman but the way she speaks makes her sound stupid.  I think her grammar is much, much worse than the others in the show.  The constant double negatives drive me up the wall. 

You see who raised her didn't you? Momma Joyce is low, uneducated, and ratchet! It's a wonder Kandi's as nice as she has been! I'd resent Porsha after all the support she got from Kandi! At the reunion it all comes out! ;-)

[RHJunkie]

Block is something else. Kandi was busy raising his daughter that he left high and dry and he still expected her to have the time to push their daughter to reach out to him? His defense was that he had another family...so that's the reason he didn't have any time to pick up the phone or come over for 30 minutes to hang out with his daughter? What a deadbeat mentality. 

Shady Phaedra...nothing left to say about this woman. She comes across as a nasty piece of work. It's low for Todd and Kandi to invite Apollo's girlfriend but it's not low for you to give Kandi's ex-employee camera time so disparage Kandi as an employer and suggest that she's breaking labour laws? Oh Phaedra, shut up, so full of shit and a damn hypocrite. 

I still don't understand Johnny's labour case because he hasn't said anything to suggest that there's any real meat to his case. Come out and say that you told Kandi about working extra hours to get the work done...instead he says that Kandi knew because she signed the cheques except the cheques only needed to be signed based on him getting his job done, not likely based on the hours put in because party planners don't usually have a time card that they punch. The only hourly pay I know of in event planning is the consultation with the client because the client is witness to those particular hours worked. That's a lot of trust for a client to pay an hourly rate to a planner for behind the scenes work without anyway of validating those actual hours worked. If the client had the time to be at the planner's side to record their hours, they likely would have just done the work themselves. 

I'm glad we no longer have to here about Sheree's incomplete home but I think it's a ridiculous expense on her part. Her kids are grown and almost all are out the door. Why why she want to live in that house all by herself? I say manage the market until she can turn a decent profit and then sell it. Kenya clearly went there to lay digs. Sheree didn't complain that Kenya's house wasn't top to bottom complete. She complained that Kenya hosted a house warming when the guests had to deal with the construction on site still. It's a whole other story than wandering into an unfinished basement or an empty bedroom. And the light fixtures weren't exactly the same. They were similar in style which happens to be on trend right now. Kenya, you ain't that special. Kim was obviously offered a pay cheque to show up and stir shit but man, the argument between her and Kenya was lame as hell...it was like grade school retorts at one another, lol. 

Just some advice for Porsha and Kandi - your endeavours can bring you money and I may not be as rich as you but I can impart some manners - when you attend a housewarming, you should bring the host a gift as a celebration and appreciation for hosting you at their home. That tip is on the house. 

[RealReality]

@RHJunkie -- yes!  "I had another family" said as though it were an excuse.  Asshole, why did you have two families!?!??!???  And how does that make it any better????

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

I still don't understand Johnny's labour case because he hasn't said anything to suggest that there's any real meat to his case. Come out and say that you told Kandi about working extra hours to get the work done...instead he says that Kandi knew because she signed the cheques except the cheques only needed to be signed based on him getting his job done, not likely based on the hours put in because party planners don't usually have a time card that they punch. The only hourly pay I know of in event planning is the consultation with the client because the client is witness to those particular hours worked. That's a lot of trust for a client to pay an hourly rate to a planner for behind the scenes work without anyway of validating those actual hours worked. If the client had the time to be at the planner's side to record their hours, they likely would have just done the work themselves. 

So, a theory.  I wonder if Kandi didn't have Johnny on payroll as an employee, but also hired him as an independent contractor through his company.  He got paid for his regular hours as an employee doing whatever his actual job was, and the wedding work was done through his event planning company.  Kandi would have to sign all the checks.  Kandi did mention that she gave him time off to work events for his company, so I think he had a side business while he worked for her.  What he described doesn't even sound like 16 hour days on a regular basis.  I get that he had to find specialized stuff, but how long did that really take?  

I think its why the woman was asking Johnny if he was an employee of Kandi Koated Entertainment while he was doing that work.  If he was paid through his company as an independent contractor, I can't see how he has a case.  

And Phaedra is full of all sorts of baloney.  The law isn't always black and white, this is why both sides hire attorneys.

[Jamie Satyr]

2 minutes ago, RealReality said:

So, a theory.  I wonder if Kandi didn't have Johnny on payroll as an employee, but also hired him as an independent contractor through his company.  He got paid for his regular hours as an employee doing whatever his actual job was, and the wedding work was done through his event planning company.  Kandi would have to sign all the checks.  Kandi did mention that she gave him time off to work events for his company, so I think he had a side business while he worked for her.  What he described doesn't even sound like 16 hour days on a regular basis.  I get that he had to find specialized stuff, but how long did that really take?  

I think its why the woman was asking Johnny if he was an employee of Kandi Koated Entertainment while he was doing that work.  If he was paid through his company as an independent contractor, I can't see how he has a case.  

And Phaedra is full of all sorts of baloney.  The law isn't always black and white, this is why both sides hire attorneys.

He doesn't have a leg to stand on! If vindictive, she should go after Johnnie and Phaedra for being a nuisance! "Countersuit here I come!" ;-)

[Talented Tenth]

5 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

How you decline talking about a matter due to attorney and client confidentiality but already encouraged it to be recorded and aired for international tv? 

Even though Johnny allowed himself to be filmed, under what theory would it have been appropriate for Phaedra to discuss any part of his case with anyone else -- especially the person he's trying to sue?  Kandi could infer from Phaedra's response that Johnny had gone to her, but she wasn't representing him.

[Jamie Satyr]

5 minutes ago, Talented Tenth said:

Even though Johnny allowed himself to be filmed, under what theory would it have been appropriate for Phaedra to discuss any part of his case with anyone else -- especially the person he's trying to sue?  Kandi could infer from Phaedra's response that Johnny had gone to her, but she wasn't representing him.

If this was for real, IDK why Phaedra was even allowed in the 2nd meeting; just to hear all the "T?" Sounds like this is either BS or the attorney Phaedra chose is as sleazy as she is and thirsty for the camera! ;-)

[RealReality]

16 minutes ago, Talented Tenth said:

Even though Johnny allowed himself to be filmed, under what theory would it have been appropriate for Phaedra to discuss any part of his case with anyone else -- especially the person he's trying to sue?  Kandi could infer from Phaedra's response that Johnny had gone to her, but she wasn't representing him.

So, there is attorney/client privilege and the duty of confidentiality.

The privilege belongs to the client, but normally only applies where the attorney would be asked to testify.  However, if that information is available from another source, its not protected by the privilege.  

Confidentiality is much broader, however, generally known information, or information that the client doesn't mean to be a confidential communication is not protected.  

I could see an argument either way.  On the one hand, the information that Johnny went to see Phaedra was available from another source (the TV show it was going to be on), and he clearly didn't mean for it to be a confidential communication since he said it in front of an entire camera crew filming him for a TV show.

HOWEVER, at the time that they were filming, the show had not yet been aired, so when Phaedra was talking to Kandi, she could reasonably make the argument that there was no other source for the information besides her and that he meant for the communication to be confidential until the show was aired.  Its not a very strong argument, but she could make it.

[queenjen]

8 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I love M2M but Heavenly would make a fantastic replacement for Phaedra on RHOA.

Only if you mean she too gets sacked. Can't abide Heavenly

[queenjen]

I saw Big Genie in the background, standing around like a shag on a rock. I haven't seen Toya yet. I wonder if their back tax budget extends to dressing up for Sheree's housewarming? 

I also clocked Phaedra's Back Phat when she was twirling for Dwight. At this point, I'm more happy seeing Dwight, Miss Lawrence and cross over cast from Married to Medicine than this bunch of tired heifers! Kandi needs to stop trying to make Riley happen, the kid is not ready for tv, and it's not fair to have her televised in all her teenage awkwardness. I can't even look at Kairo without thinking about him posting that video of himself. I cannot understand why these kids feel the need to do this stuff! 

What the hell is it with these women and their delusional talk about  'life long legacies'?!! What the hell kind of 'life long legacy' has Porsha created at this stage of her life? Appearing on this show and Dish Nation is flat out embarrassing beside the achievements of Hosiah Williams. She should stay quiet on that topic.

And I'm totally over Cynthia's THs where she drops her voice at the end and makes that throaty sound. She's trying to be funny, and it was kind of cute the first 15 times, but she's been doing the same routine for seasons now. 

Sheree still hasn't got a certificate of occupancy, allegedly, so this was more fakery from a franchise that has pretty much descended into scripted territory. Nothing is real. At least they are moving in the right direction by letting Phaedra go. Bring on some women who want to share their REAL lives already.

[queenjen]

5 hours ago, Teddybear said:

I can't get over how Sheree looks on WWHL.  She looks like a completely different person for some reason and I can't tell why.

It's months later and she's had more work done?

[jalady]

I feel like such an idiot.  All week long I've been watching the preview of Kandi asking Phakedra if she had anything to do with the lawsuit and was waiting with baited breath to get the answer.  As the scene was airing it finally occurred to me - a LAWYER! - that Ms. Hypocrite was going to claim attorney-client privilege.  And if she's not part of the legal team she shouldn't have been sitting in on his meeting with his "real" lawyers, because her presence could have affected their subsequent claims of privilege (with respect to that conversation).  As if the TV cameras and crew present didn't already do that, RME, LOL!

I feel like such an idiot.  All week long I've been watching the preview of Kandi asking Phakedra if she had anything to do with the lawsuit and was waiting with baited breath to get the answer.  As the scene was airing it finally occurred to me - a LAWYER! - that Ms. Hypocrite was going to claim attorney-client privilege.  And if she's not part of the legal team she shouldn't have been sitting in on his meeting with his "real" lawyers, because her presence could have affected their subsequent claims of privilege (with respect to that conversation).  As if the TV cameras and crew present didn't already do that, RME, LOL!

[MerryMary]

First off, Sheree is out of credit.  The appliances never were delivered, I can assure you.  Party vendors provided free services or will invoice her later.  The contractor is going to get screwed, I hope he got some money up front.  The whole thing is kind of pathetic now that Sherree's kids are grown and out of the house.  I am haunted by the memory of Kairo sleeping on an air mattress.  He has survived though.  When he's not being filmed pleasuring himself,  he plays hoops for Morehead, so good for him.

Phaedra is so shady.  What about her career in the funeral arts????  She went to school for nothing?  Maybe she didn't even really go to school.  Who knows...  Still not divorced either.  Zoinks.

Kim Z has ruined her face.  I keep waiting for Kroy to bolt.  I bet she got an appearance fee for attending the party otherwise she wouldn't be there. I didn't know Sherree was in her wedding.  Wow. 

Kandi and her baby daddy's storyline is ridiculous. I've lost respect, I don't care how many Grammies she has. Like Kim, that guy is just there to pick up a check.  At least Riley let him have it.

I laughed when Kenya called Kim octomom, but Kim definitely won that round.

I thought Porsha's short hair in the reunion clip looked amazing. 

Cynthia has nothing going on, as usual.

[pasdetrois]

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And I'm totally over Cynthia's THs where she drops her voice at the end and makes that throaty sound. She's trying to be funny, and it was kind of cute the first 15 times, but she's been doing the same routine for seasons now. 

Haven't watched in awhile; tuned in for Dwight. When did Cynthia turn into a topless Pearl Bailey? Her schtick is the big hair, which she constantly pushes out of her face, the clown boobs hanging out of her dress, and the wise cracks with the vocal fry.  She used to be an elegant woman.

WTF is wrong with Kandi, putting her painfully shy child's private business on TV? That's trashy.

[Psalm11]

20 minutes ago, MerryMary said:

Cynthia has nothing going on, as usual.

Except still being used and manipulated by Peter. He's walking around playing "sad little divorce boy" in order to make Cynthia feel guilty. And I think she's falling for it. Fake news.

[Yours Truly]

9 hours ago, Maharincess said:

I know I'm the only one but I love Kim. She has always been my favorite Housewife across the board.  I hope she comes back full time. 

Kandi's atrocious grammar makes me cringe every episode.  She sounds so ignorant when she speaks.   Her kid is cute though, I just hope she's not the one to teach him how to talk. 

I love her too. Sorry not sorry.. LOL!

[Carolina Girl]

Kim:  "My husband made $20 million in 12 years in the NFL!"

Yep. And it took you only 4 years to pretty much run through it.    

[queenjen]

I am in the loving Kim camp atm also. I lived for her shutting Kenya down, so GLAD someone finally did. When Kenya made the 'at least I'm not a duck' crack (lame!) about Kim's face, I laughed out loud remembering Kenya dropping to the ground like the fool she is, and walking like a DUCK earlier in the season. 

Did you all check how the editing cut Matt out? He was there, just edited out. Kenya has ZERO business making a PSA about domestic violence. How inauthentic and disingenuous and grasping is that, given she has made it her SL all season and this is yet another of Kenya's boyfriend for hire schemes that got out of hand. Can't abide Kenya. 

[Jel]

I like Kenya, but I wish she hadn't gone "accidentally on purpose" to the basement, and then make a big deal about the , OMG! unfinished basement. I mean really, who cares if a basement is unfinished? Had she not said anything, she could have had the high ground. Missed opportunity, Kenya.

Block and his "brainwashing" remark, grr. Then, when cornered, "admits" he wasn't there, (like this is news to Riley), apologizes and expects everything to be okay because he did? What planet is this dude living on? Oh, he had another family! That's why he was too busy to ever see his daughter, I bet that made Riley feel just great.  Depressing.

I thought Sheree's house was very pretty, and I thought she looked beautiful at the party.

[bosawks]

The reunion is going to be FOUR episodes!!!

That's like one episode for each of Sheree's appliances........

[queenjen]

Oh lord, it must have been mega hot at Sheree's housewarming. I read somewhere that it was, and of course Sheree has no air con. At the end, Porsha was sitting with Todd with napkins shoved under her arms. Klassy. 

[queenjen]

Just now, bosawks said:

That's like one episode for each of Sheree's appliances........

I don't wanna hear bout the 'pliances ever again. Allegedly she has a storage locker full of the 'pliances she stripped from Bob's house somewhere in Atlanta. Maybe she's waiting for filming to finish to sneak them in. She'd be dumb to do that though, because class action creditors are likely going to swoop in and put a big ole lock on the Chateau gate and sell up everything in lieu of the bills she hasn't paid to her gazillion contractors. She's a foolish woman. I doubt she'll ever live in that wonky roomed monstrosity she's built. It looks like it was designed by a 5 year old girl with princess fantasies. All I can think of is the insane amounts of money it will take to furnish it so it doesn't look weirdly empty and then to clean it and to heat it and to cool it. Utterly nonsensical.

I'd also be happy if I never had to see Kenya's massive swollen dugs bursting out of every dress she barely sheaths them in. It's ridiculous, she looks like a dairy cow. All of these women have trouble with their breasts: they either have them in everyone's face, or they have major sideboob, underboob and wardrobe malfunction issues. Kandi continually favours structured corset like dresses and tops that look illfitting. Get a stylist if you can't dress yourselves!

[islandgal140]

I think I would rather watch a prolapse in FF and rewind for a solid commercial free hour than see Kim back on this show in any capacity.  She is utter trash. She looks just ridiculous. I have never seen a nose have so many angles. It is like it is 4 dimensional.  Her teeth are an impossible wall of white that is never found in a human, nay, any living creatures mouth. It reminds me of when they put teeth on a muppet. 

Despite this, I still didn't and can't root for Kenya. I don't necessarily begrudge Kenya for cracking on Sheree's house. Hell, turnabout is fair play, but none of it was funny or interesting. An unfinished basement. Oh the horrors. 

Kenya's "clapbacks" vs Kim were pathetic. 

Sheree's house looks like a giant slab of concrete to me. I did like what little I saw of her kitchen, closet and master bathroom. The foyer and living areas look so sterile and cold to me. Like a commercial buildings reception area. That bedroom they ended up fighting in was aggressively ugly with the paint and wallpaper.

I don't think I have ever been as uncomfortable watching a scene as I was watching Riley and Block. 

Phaedra is really a piece of shit. If she truly referred Johnny to another attorney there is no need for her to go to yet another meeting and taking notes no less.

If anyone has a case for lack of payment, it is all of Sheree's contractors and vendors. 

[bosawks]

6 hours ago, Maharincess said:

That's what I mean. She's a smart woman but the way she speaks makes her sound stupid.  I think her grammar is much, much worse than the others in the show.  The constant double negatives drive me up the wall. 

I think you mean:  "Don't not drive me up the wall.".....

[filmfan2480]

Brief Thoughts after this episode (nothing has really changed):

Sheree is delusional and ridiculous.

Kandi is the only one who I can remotely respect; though, not always.

Cynthia is still a whatever. Dont dislike her, dont love her.

Kenya entertains me.

Kim Z entertains me.

Porsha disgusts me.

And Phaedra takes the cake when it come to disgust.

[CrinkleCutCat]

I agree Islandgirl140: that scene with Riley, her dad Block and Kandi was excruciating to watch. That poor girl is being filmed at the juncture of two difficult moments: meeting up with her technically unknown father AND being a socially awkward teen...oh, and let's add a third difficult ingredient! Let's film it for tv. Shame on Kandi for agreeing to this scene.

[Baltimore Betty]

I noticed at Sheree's house warming party that the Human Ken Doll was there all a glitter too!  I guess the producers reached in to the Bravo grab bag of celebrities and told him to show up along with Kim. 

Sheree did not have appliances because when you don't pay the store, they do not deliver.  She hardly had any clothes in her closet, (which was spectacular, as was her shower).  I have a feeling the furniture was rented.  I have a lot of experience in catering and not once have I ever had to wear a body con dress to serve or cook nor have I ever had to ask my staff to wear one either, what is with that trend? 

Phaedra and her dress, everything is just so tight on her, I say this every episode...sausage like.  That was some dirty pool Phaedra pulled with Johnny, she should have never shown up at that other attorney's office with Johnny, the ethics board should be on her tail with that and since she is not representing Johnny common sense should have told her not to be in that room.  If I was on death row I would not let that woman represent me.   And side note, why is that woman so obsessed with camel toe, it was the first thing out of her mouth when Sheree took off that ugly skirt to reveal that ugly onsie.

Kandi and Block, work it out off camera, that child does not want to be on camera, it was painful to watch.  In reality Kandi needs to give up pushing either one of them to bond, he is a stranger to Riley.

Kim, oy vey.  She looks like she is turning in to plastic.  Why did she start with Kenya, I totally missed it. 

[Sheenieb]

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I just don't understand this.  Like why would you ever schedule a party without the appliances being there like a few days or a week in advance?  Why would those go in last?  Aren't those pretty important, like why would you wait until the last minute to have a refrigerator?

Because it's Sheree. Let's not forget that this is the same woman who staged a fashion show with no fashions. 

If I ain't tired of hearing about these damn chateaus and manors. I mean, following each other around and going in on copycat furniture with Marlo in the background as the Greek chorus? I can't. 

When the contractor laughed about the 'wrong' appliances being delivered, I thought he was going to say it was because the check didn't clear or the card was declined. Which is probably the truth. 

Let Block be a PSA to all about having children with ain't shit dudes. I was low-key annoyed with Kandi for leaving Riley alone to talk to Block. This is probably the first full-length conversation she's had with him in years. Then telling her that she's been brainwashed?! Unless there are stacks of letters and deleted messages that Kandi kept from Riley, I don't want to hear that bullshit. 

[byrd]

13 hours ago, Jamie Satyr said:

Sheree's house is not ready for this party, but it looks as if they're going to go thru with this charade of trying to "one up" Kenya on her housewarming! Appliances she ordered didn't appear and she's PO'd! Why plan this party before the place is completely done? What a silly woman! ;-(

Right..why was everyone in a hurry instead of waiting until the homes were ready.

[islandgal140]

A kitchen with no appliances. How dreadful!

Was there any food at this event?

[Bronzedog]

The thing about having no appliances is, in the D.C. Area, you can actually go pick up major appliances.  You don't have to wait for them to be delivered.  I assume you can do the same in Atlanta.  Especially if you already have workers at your house to help with moving them.

[drivethroo]

13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Kenya is a nasty, miserable witch.  Who comes to someone's housewarming to insult them?

Sheree.

 

10 hours ago, CouchTater said:

Why did Kandi feel the need to apologize for Apollo's girlfriend showing up at Kandi's restaurant opening??? 

 

Because Kandi has class.  She knew Phaedra would see it as Kandi trying to start something & run around to everyone else saying that Kandi was trying to start something (even though everyone else knows Kandi had nothing to do with it).

 

10 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Phaedra's hatred of Kandi is extreme and makes no sense to me.  Why does she hate her so much. It makes no sense. Can somebody explain it to me. 

There are 3 things that hurt Phaedra about Kandi:

-When Kandi found out Apollo lied on Kenya sending him the text messages (quite frankly it could've been SHERIEN who sent the text messages and Apollo had Sherien as "Kenya" on the phone).

-When Kandi wasn't around for Phaedra's trials, tribulations and divorce (at the time Kandi was having a high risk pregnancy as well as dealing with the death of her mother in law).

-When Kandi & Todd took Apollo's side over hers

So Phaedra lashed out on Kandi by attacking Todd & if the rumors are to be believed, colluding with one of the show producers to drag Kandi's reputation on national television (Block, sex dungeon, date raping Porsha, lawsuits etc).

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I wouldn't be surprised if when Kandi said in her TH "I'll let you hate while I'll be great" if she hadn't gone to BRAVO and said "Either Phaedra & Carlos King go, or I'll go."  Carlos King is no longer affiliated with RHOA so I wouldn't be surprised if Phaedra is also giving her walking papers as well.

People who lie & scheme hate the people who finally "see" them.

[RHJunkie]

7 hours ago, RealReality said:

So, a theory.  I wonder if Kandi didn't have Johnny on payroll as an employee, but also hired him as an independent contractor through his company.  He got paid for his regular hours as an employee doing whatever his actual job was, and the wedding work was done through his event planning company.  Kandi would have to sign all the checks.  Kandi did mention that she gave him time off to work events for his company, so I think he had a side business while he worked for her.  What he described doesn't even sound like 16 hour days on a regular basis.  I get that he had to find specialized stuff, but how long did that really take?  

I think its why the woman was asking Johnny if he was an employee of Kandi Koated Entertainment while he was doing that work.  If he was paid through his company as an independent contractor, I can't see how he has a case.  

And Phaedra is full of all sorts of baloney.  The law isn't always black and white, this is why both sides hire attorneys.

At this rate, I think Johnny is just an idiot and it's hard to believe otherwise with the way he's provided information about this entire case. If he had something solid, he would have likely said something solid rather than shifty answers. I think your theory is right because I believe it was at the beginning of this season that Kandi explained that Johnny used to be her employee but she ha to let him go because he was spending too much time doing jobs for his own business but she still supported him by hiring him to do events for her...and one of the events she said she hired him for (which insinuated as an independent contractor) was for her wedding. I'm not sure if Johnny knows the difference but I assume that this should be an easy case once you look at the copy of the contract? I definitely think he's presenting more extreme situations and trying to make it seem like it was a normal work hours for him. There's only two circumstances that I can believe that he would ever be working 16-20 hour days as an employee of hers - 1. She had several events planned very close to each other which required him to work on several events at one time OR 2. he is horrible with his time management. 

Wouldn't mind one bit if the rumours of Phaedra being fired or her role being reduced are true. The less time I have to see her face and hear her voice, the more enjoyable the show is for me. 

[movingtargetgal]

17 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

There are 3 things that hurt Phaedra about Kandi:

-When Kandi found out Apollo lied on Kenya sending him the text messages (quite frankly it could've been SHERIEN who sent the text messages and Apollo had Sherien as "Kenya" on the phone).

-When Kandi wasn't around for Phaedra's trials, tribulations and divorce (at the time Kandi was having a high risk pregnancy as well as dealing with the death of her mother in law).

-When Kandi & Todd took Apollo's side over hers

Kandi and Todd also hid some of Apollo's assets from Phaedra and the Feds.  The Feds were harassing Phaedra about turning them over.  Meanwhile Kandi and Todd had the hidden in their garage.  They knew this was causing a lot of problems for Phaedra and continued to keep these items hidden from the government.