S09.E02: It Girl, Interrupted

[mbaywife123]

I just found my hodgit it was burryed in the holemill outside. 

[biakbiak]

44 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Beth is delusional about her six year old.  Your child is going to learn all about you, your past career, and your campaign against her father....much sooner than you think. 

Probably from Jason!

[hoodooznoodooz]

14 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

I know it was so rude for a variety of reasons but the cut from Bethenny saying that Luann's head is too big for any hat to fit her and the immediate jump to Luann walking down the street in her hat for the party was a thing of beauty editing-wise.

From the side, it looked like LuAnn was wearing a cowboy hat. 

[mbaywife123]

Upon rewatch Beth just said she looks like a piñata, wonderful let's beat the shit out of her with sticks and see what falls out, my bet is on Skinny Girl (TM) merchandise.

[breezy424]

55 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Probably from Jason!

Nope.  Jason has been totally silent.  He could have made some big bucks telling all about Beth.  She is going to learn from her little friends and the internet.

On another note, Beth felt she had to make a comment about the size of Lu's head.  Sorry Beth, no matter how anyone feels about Lu, IMO she's a lot more attractive than you.  Better face and body.  Hate her or not, Lu has got it going on in the looks and body department.

Edited April 13, 2017 by breezy424

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, breezy424 said:

Nope.  Jason has been totally silent.  He could have made some big bugs telling all about Beth.  She is going to learn from her little friends and the internet.

It was a joke but we have no idea what Jason tells Brynn which was the crux of the joke.

I loved B literally screeching at Carole that she needs to be quieter.

[AndySmith]

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To me, a house isn't a home without a pet in it. 

Hangs my head in shame...

[Teddybear]

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I really appreciated Tinsley speaking up when the borrowed butler was talking about Ramona "throwing away" Mario and being like, "Ummm, didn't he cheat on her?" I hate the side characters on all the franchises that come on, doing too much, trying to get some camera time.

And then the butler said, "wouldn't you?"  What a catty little bitch!

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I think Tinsley kind of looks like Gretchen Rossi. Just me?

Maybe if she was rode hard and put away wet.  I think Gretchen looks a lot fresher and younger than Tinsley.  

I think Bethenny's and Carole's friendship is hanging by a thread.   B just seemed exasperated by everything Carole was saying.  

[sheetmoss]

I was surprised Luann pronounced Ralph Lauren's name incorrectly - Law-ren.  It's pronounced like the female name Lauren - meaning with no affectation

    My issue w/Lu's dress, this was early fall, and the dress/look was too summery for late Oct.

Hmm, Beth treated Tinsley the same as when she first met Heather.

Oddly, as Ramona is trying to look younger, she;s actually looking older.

Still love seeing the UES   house porn of Sonja's townhse old $ layered decor

Edited April 13, 2017 by sheetmoss

[bosawks]

I'm inclined to like Tinsley Mortimer just because her name is right out of a Roald Dahl story.

I'm sure I'll come to hate her as much as I hate Miss Trunchbull....

[biakbiak]

The first dress Tinsley tried on looked like an ugly sofa, uglier than Carole's ugly worn ass sofa.

Ramona showing up early and immediately enhaling one of the world's largest tea sandwiches before even being asked was everything.

Also, I love how the deep and close 20 year friendship between S/R is shown "who is Gigi, are you her sister?"

This episode had one of the few moments where I liked Carole since Heather left. It was quick and basic manners but she said "thank you, Patrick" when borrowed Butler handed her her rose. Yes, these women are so awful a thank you and remembering a staff persons name is enough for me.

[Lizzing]

Ramona is a trip.  It took me two passes to figure out what she was trying to say to Carol at the party, but now I'm pretty sure I'm going to adopt "burrow the hodgit" for life.  The stuff with the dogs was hilarious; she's put out that Bethenny didn't tell her about Biggie and Smalls, but then is certain that one of Sonja's current, alive, and present dogs is Milou.  The same Milou that she went to the dog funeral for.  Hell, Bethenny should have told Ramona that she did send an email about the new puppies and Ramona must have forgotten.  I'd never want to know Ramona IRL, but as a character on a show, she's a weird little gift of unintentional comedy sometimes.

I had a dress very much like Lu's garden party dress...in 1993/4.  It's a pretty dress, very flattering in its silhouette, but Lu wasn't pulling off the vintage 90s thing well.  It just looked dated, but at least she was properly within the theme.

Edited April 13, 2017 by Lizzing

[zoeysmom]

Although I appreciate the fact Carole sees the banal in most of the RH conversations surrounding who wasn't invited to a party, I just have a hard time finding she has an real "street cred" left  in the world of journalism.  It would seem her foray into reality TV would pretty much tarnish her reputation.  I also never thought I would see Bethenny give up the know-it-all crown.  I think the fact Carole's basis of intellectual superiority is she reads the entire story not just the headlines was equally amusing as Ramona being in the know.

[zoeysmom]

Vulture Recap:    http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/real-housewives-of-new-york-city-recap-season-9-episode-2.html  Not really sure how Tom and Luann are suppose to acknowledge Sonja's feelings?  Or why the rest of the women, who claim to not give a fuck, need anymore from Tom and Luann other than they worked it out.  How much more do they need to know, Luann has said they are not in an open relationship and there is a certain ick factor with Ramona nosing around trying to undercover something, anything on Tom.

[Chit Chat]

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B just seemed exasperated by everything Carole was saying.  

I'm impressed that Bethenny called her out on it.  That is one thing about Bethenny I like, and that is whether you're her best friend or not, she's going to call you out on your shit!  Carole was really insulting, especially saying "I know these journalists.  I can read between the lines."  Well, apparently you couldn't read between the lines of the voters who didn't agree with you.  I can't believe how condescending and rude she was.  Funny how she said she reads everything, but yet she didn't read Sonja's invitation to know that she was supposed to wear something with color.

I live in the South, and I've known a bunch of people who have visited NYC.  They did make the comment that it seemed like everybody there wore only black.  Why is that? 

[Polliwollidoodle]

Sorry if this has been noted before, but personality wise, I would say Ramona= Vicky (RH of Orange County)......

too in your face to ignore, basically pretty obnoxious and oblivious but with a snippet of humanity and vulnerability and of course- the center of the universe. 

no?

[sasha206]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Although I appreciate the fact Carole sees the banal in most of the RH conversations surrounding who wasn't invited to a party, I just have a hard time finding she has an real "street cred" left  in the world of journalism.  It would seem her foray into reality TV would pretty much tarnish her reputation.  I also never thought I would see Bethenny give up the know-it-all crown.  I think the fact Carole's basis of intellectual superiority is she reads the entire story not just the headlines was equally amusing as Ramona being in the know.

It's hard for me to understand if she was such an incredible journalist, won emmy's, interviewed Senators, etc., why the fuck isn't she still in the news media?  You can certainly be paid well and find time to write books.  Instead, she's on a reality show talking about what a great journalist she once was.  Quite the comedown.

[TexasGal]

I didn't recognize Dorinda's daughter until they put her title card up.  I thought she was maybe a sister of Dorinda that we hadn't met yet.  But then she took off the sunglasses and started acting like a brat, and the world fell back into its axis.

I guess Bethenny thought since she'd brought a gift basket of Skinny Girl (R) merchandise for Tinsley she didn't need to go through basic social niceties upon being introduced to her.  Or, maybe that's what the wolves told her was acceptable when they were raising her.  Also, if there isn't a later scene of Sonja and Tinsley picking through that basket and snarking on it I will be sorely disappointed.

Edited April 13, 2017 by TexasGal

[ghoulina]

Ramona is just such a mess. She cracks me up, but in reality - she's incredibly rude. She refuses to take her shoes off in someone else's house. Insists that it's cool to kick dogs and babies, they'll bounce back! She shows up early to a party and then just starts eating the food before it's officially began. She doesn't recognize a woman she's likely met several times - which, okay, I'm sure that's not uncommon. But she acted so undaunted by it. Like, "Why should I know this person, who cares?" And I thought Gigi was trying to be very nice to her. Whatever. She rescinds offers to stay at her place and plays it off as "change of plans", "change of plans". What a fucking B. 

Tinsley wanted to complain about Bethenny's breezy intro, but Ramona was even worse, IMO. 

And that scarf around her neck? There was NOT a hicky under there! Everything about Ramona these past few years is trying to give the impression that she's a hot thing back on the dating scene. But in reality, she's probably meeting Sonja's interns for coffee and sending flowers to herself. 

So speaking of Tinsely.....eh? I don't get why this girl was such a big deal back in the day. She is not that good looking to me, nor did she appear to be 10 years ago. I will say, I'm a horrible judge of age, and I was shocked to find out she was 41. I'm 37 myself and I would have pegged her as younger than me. But this isn't any indication of her being stunningly gorgeous or some ethereal angel. I think it's just the way she acts, dresses, carries herself....something. 

Anyhow, it's definitely kind of weird that she's bow bunking with Sonja. Is this just for the show, I wonder? And is she trying to downplay her brush with the law? I know little and less about this broad, but would she really have a no trespass order against her without her knowledge? I thought you had to be served for it to be effective. 

I do know this, I NEVER need to hear her say she's "sick of color" after 4 years in Palm Beach. Is there a literal ban on black? I lived in FL (north and central) for 9 years when I was younger and I wore black plenty. More often than not. But I will readily admit I am NOT a fashionista. Also, she needs to chill with her griping about Bethenny. Has she never watched the show? Bethenny isn't a super friendly, effusive person. I didn't think she was rude or anything. She was saying "hi" to everyone. What did Tinsley want? Hugs? Hair braiding? A parade in her honor? 

I did laugh when B brought her giant basket of SG stuff to the tea party. Never misses a chance to promote herself. 

That was one broke down "Mad Hatter" tea party. No one really looked the part. Sonja herself complained about everyone missing the "color" memo, but her dress wasn't very colorful itself. Sure, it had flowers. But it had a black background and didn't look that much less funeralish than anyone else's. 

I have to say, her rent-a-butler is FABULOUS and I need more of him in my life. The way he snarked on Moaner and Lu was just great. 

Carole is REALLY going to grate with her election talk. I get that this was a very serious issue for many people. I follow politics pretty closely myself. But when people become that OBSESSED and can talk of nothing else, it's so draining. Plus, her superior air needs to go. "If someone says something.....INFORMED". As if no one else can understand what's going on in the world. You need a press pass apparently. Do journalists (and former journalists) get special newspapers the rest of us aren't privy to? Get the fuck outta here with that. 

Dorinda couch shopping with her daughter and worrying about going all Grey Gardens was kind of funny. But someone needs to teach Hannah about taking her sunglasses off indoors. 

Too much fur in this episode. I hope it was faux. 

[QuinnM]

I'm so surprised that I hate Ramona.  She's always been Ramona but this whole episode was just bad.  Did she do something to piss off the producers cuz that was one bad edit.  Take your shoes off.  It's NYC.  Have you read the articles about what you are dragging in off the street?  Froget the damn dogs.  Oh the dogs?  I'm supposed to believe that Ramona does not have a google alert on all things RHONY?  Because the paps were on the dog trade in the middle of the night because Bethenny and Mrs Stern.  She knew and she should've sent a muffin basket welcoming them.  But she sees herself as the queen and Bethenny should have brought the dogs to her in offering or something.

When the hell was this all filmed?  It's not even Halloween of 2016?  Bethenny is just out of surgery?  The puppies are brand new.  (I can tell by the gates in the hall.  That was the set up for weeks while Cookie and the puppies sniffed each other.)  I understand we don't get this stuff the day after but this is getting ridiculous.

Did Sonja get new rugs?  These looked much fresher than the ones falling apart.  I noticed that there is a single story shed or something between her place and the parking garage.  I'm thinking I wouldn't mind the garage.  At least it is not another house overlooking my garden and if I had a car that makes it real convenient.  It also appears that the elevator is semi-functioning now.  But not enough that you can use it when the house is empty.  Wasn't that a movie?  Plus I didn't think that Tinsley brought that much luggage.  What did Sonja think?  That a little roller bag was enough to live out of for the 3-4 months of filming.

Ok, still waiting for Tinsley to bring it.  No, Bethenny didn't fawn all over you.  She met you exchanged pleasentries and moved on.  That's not a story line.  Trying on gowns is fun but not a story line.  In fact Dorinda's daughter has a better story line that you do. 

[sasha206]

30 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

And that scarf around her neck? There was NOT a hicky under there! Everything about Ramona these past few years is trying to give the impression that she's a hot thing back on the dating scene. But in reality, she's probably meeting Sonja's interns for coffee and sending flowers to herself. 

So speaking of Tinsely.....eh? I don't get why this girl was such a big deal back in the day. She is not that good looking to me, nor did she appear to be 10 years ago. I will say, I'm a horrible judge of age, and I was shocked to find out she was 41. I'm 37 myself and I would have pegged her as younger than me. But this isn't any indication of her being stunningly gorgeous or some ethereal angel. I think it's just the way she acts, dresses, carries herself....something. 

Anyhow, it's definitely kind of weird that she's bow bunking with Sonja. Is this just for the show, I wonder? And is she trying to downplay her brush with the law? I know little and less about this broad, but would she really have a no trespass order against her without her knowledge? I thought you had to be served for it to be effective. 

 

I agree with you.  I feel like Ramona is trying to show Mario that she's having the time of her life.  I truly think she hopes he sees this, gets jealous, and comes crawling back.  She doesn't seem happy.  She's put on weight.  The work she's done on her face looks bad, her hair looks ridiculous.  i feel bad that her divorce has taken such a toll on her.

As for Tinsley, I take it that being a "socialite" or marrying into a rich family made her fodder for the New York social scene papers and got her noticed.  Being blonde and skinny with money is all you seem to need.  She talked about that crazy ass mugshot and her eyebrows, but her eyebrows from all that botox are still looking like they want to fly off her face.  And it looks to me like she's had a nose job that makes her nose look so small that it's odd.  I would quibble with you -- I thinks she just looks like a skinny 41 year old.  I don't think she looks much younger.

Carole is exhausting.  Someone needs to remind her that she may have been an incredible journalist at one point, but she isn't anymore.  I guess she's still a "writer girl" but her biggest success was based on Kennedy fame, in my view.  I read the book and it was good, but if the Kennedy's weren't in the mix, would anyone really have read it?  Yes, I know NOW she was an accomplished journalist before she met Radziwill/Kennedy/Bessette but her propelling into fame, her being a housewife is because of that connection.  How successful was her novel after "What Remains?"  Her cookbook didn't go anywhere, which is saying something since even Teresa Giudice gets her shit published.

Edited April 13, 2017 by sasha206

[TomGirl]

I don't care for Tinsley.  I don't dislike her, but I don't find her interesting. She doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the NY cast.  She seems like a better fit for RHOOC or RHOBH.

[islandgal140]

LOL! at Ramona, just now realizing that Bethenny uses people. 

So far I am okay with Tinsley. She seems surprisingly open about her desire to want the life she once had back, don't think it will happen especially since she decided to lower herself with this show (and if Olivia Palermo has anything to say about it), but good luck with that. I'm not really buying her version of events surrounding her arrest either but at least she is smart enough to get ahead of it.  I don't understand 'it' girl BS. 

I hope Tinsley doesn't become thirsty for B's acknowledgement. 

Bethenny continues to be a bitch. Barely acknowledges Tinsley, seriously is it so hard to make minimal conversation? B can have issues with Lu for whatever character traits she finds deficient but I have a real problem with all the low blow things she says about Lu's physical attributes. The big head comment from B's bobbleheaded ass? Bitch please. B wishes she was tall and could've been a model - we would never here the end of it if she was. All this shit about Lu's head being big and calling her LuMan (in the past) is some BS. Lu is a beautiful woman with a fabulous figure. 

I love me a floral dress but Lu's looked dated and dusty and the hat didn't go with it.

Tinsley and Topper? Oh vey! Who are their parents? Sounds like people whose grandparents were Thurston and Lovey?

As soon as Ramona tried to play it all cute talking 'bout "I'm trying to cover a hickey with this scarf" BS, the only image that came to my mind was Ramona, at home, taking a vacuum nozzle to her neck. She did that shit herself. 

Bravo was shady as hell for that "Sonja's borrowed butler" label. As temp staff, whose job depends on discretion and decorum, he was a little too extra for me. I expect gossip from a hairdresser not a butler. He would probably be telling your household business all over town. Alfred would never. 

Edited April 13, 2017 by islandgal140

[Ki-in]

So Carole, our intellectual superior and the only  informed person on the planet because you only read headlines while she reads the articles, has posted on her twitter multiple retweets of an article tooting her own horn about how smart she is interspersed with more ass pictures!!! This woman is ridiculous and demented and in need of serious mental help.

 

I'm liking Tinsley...so far.

 

Man it's going to be Sonja vs Dorinda this season. It's like my 2 favorite drunken aunts going at it.

 

ETA: Can you blame Luann for wearing an old dress to Sonja's? Would you want to sit on any of her furniture in something nice?

Edited April 13, 2017 by Ki-in

[StatisticalOutlier]

11 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Bethenny had me with calling Carole out on her dismissive attitude... and then she lost me with the comment about "crusty" women attending afternoon tea parties.

I think she said women with crusty vaginas, never missing a chance to be vulgar.

[njbchlover]

52 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Ramona is just such a mess. She cracks me up, but in reality - she's incredibly rude. She refuses to take her shoes off in someone else's house. Insists that it's cool to kick dogs and babies, they'll bounce back! She shows up early to a party and then just starts eating the food before it's officially began. She doesn't recognize a woman she's likely met several times - which, okay, I'm sure that's not uncommon. But she acted so undaunted by it. Like, "Why should I know this person, who cares?" And I thought Gigi was trying to be very nice to her. Whatever. She rescinds offers to stay at her place and plays it off as "change of plans", "change of plans". What a fucking B. 

Tinsley wanted to complain about Bethenny's breezy intro, but Ramona was even worse, IMO. 

And that scarf around her neck? There was NOT a hicky under there! Everything about Ramona these past few years is trying to give the impression that she's a hot thing back on the dating scene. But in reality, she's probably meeting Sonja's interns for coffee and sending flowers to herself. 

So speaking of Tinsely.....eh? I don't get why this girl was such a big deal back in the day. She is not that good looking to me, nor did she appear to be 10 years ago. I will say, I'm a horrible judge of age, and I was shocked to find out she was 41. I'm 37 myself and I would have pegged her as younger than me. But this isn't any indication of her being stunningly gorgeous or some ethereal angel. I think it's just the way she acts, dresses, carries herself....something. 

Anyhow, it's definitely kind of weird that she's bow bunking with Sonja. Is this just for the show, I wonder? And is she trying to downplay her brush with the law? I know little and less about this broad, but would she really have a no trespass order against her without her knowledge? I thought you had to be served for it to be effective. 

I do know this, I NEVER need to hear her say she's "sick of color" after 4 years in Palm Beach. Is there a literal ban on black? I lived in FL (north and central) for 9 years when I was younger and I wore black plenty. More often than not. But I will readily admit I am NOT a fashionista. Also, she needs to chill with her griping about Bethenny. Has she never watched the show? Bethenny isn't a super friendly, effusive person. I didn't think she was rude or anything. She was saying "hi" to everyone. What did Tinsley want? Hugs? Hair braiding? A parade in her honor? 

I did laugh when B brought her giant basket of SG stuff to the tea party. Never misses a chance to promote herself. 

That was one broke down "Mad Hatter" tea party. No one really looked the part. Sonja herself complained about everyone missing the "color" memo, but her dress wasn't very colorful itself. Sure, it had flowers. But it had a black background and didn't look that much less funeralish than anyone else's. 

I have to say, her rent-a-butler is FABULOUS and I need more of him in my life. The way he snarked on Moaner and Lu was just great. 

Carole is REALLY going to grate with her election talk. I get that this was a very serious issue for many people. I follow politics pretty closely myself. But when people become that OBSESSED and can talk of nothing else, it's so draining. Plus, her superior air needs to go. "If someone says something.....INFORMED". As if no one else can understand what's going on in the world. You need a press pass apparently. Do journalists (and former journalists) get special newspapers the rest of us aren't privy to? Get the fuck outta here with that. 

Dorinda couch shopping with her daughter and worrying about going all Grey Gardens was kind of funny. But someone needs to teach Hannah about taking her sunglasses off indoors. 

Too much fur in this episode. I hope it was faux. 

I agree with most of your post (brilliant, btw) - but, I didn't like this butler - for that very reason.  My thoughts are that if he is "loaned" to Luann or Ramona for their next event, he would be in their kitchens, being just as catty about Sonja.  

It's one thing to throw in a mild quip or comment when you're on the fringe of a gossipy conversation.  He basically inserted himself into an innocuous conversation between Sonja and Tinsley with very bitchy comments that had no place at that time.  Plus, it didn't looking like he was doing too much butler-ing.  He was more about taking selfies with whomever would let him.

Edited April 13, 2017 by njbchlover

[ghoulina]

32 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

 She talked about that crazy ass mugshot and her eyebrows, but her eyebrows from all that botox are still looking like they want to fly off her face.  And it looks to me like she's had a nose job that makes her nose look so small that it's odd.  I would quibble with you -- I thinks she just looks like a skinny 41 year old.  I don't think she looks much younger.

Well, I did preface my comment with saying I am a HORRIBLE judge with age. I could never work one of those carnival booths. Hahaha! 

But THANK YOU for mentioning the eyebrows. When she said her eyebrows looked crazy in the mug shot, I said aloud - "They STILL look crazy". 

[chuckity]

Did I hear Carole say she was having an election night party?

I hope that the cameras were there for that one.

[sasha206]

20 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I think she said women with crusty vaginas, never missing a chance to be vulgar.

I liked Beth during her first run at RHONY when she didn't lay it on that thick. Now I think she's convinced herself that vulgarity = giving no fucks, high humor. And the thing is, most of her vulgarity isn't funny.  You can be vulgar and be funny.  But if you go to the well too often, it just becomes vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity.

I truly believe that Beth is not a happy person. She thought wealth would make her happy but she's got it now and it doesn't.  That must be a horrible feeling because most of us think, "If I could just hit the lottery, I'd be happy."  What happens when you make your money, even through something you love doing, and you find out that you still aren't happy?  

[Juliegirlj]

Tinsley may have been the "It Girl", but Dorinda is now the Everything Woman. I adore her, and love that she puts herself out there with minimal makeup. She looks great with little makeup and a robe. 

Dorinda's daughter looks like a trans woman ( forgive me). 

Ramona's face seems to be caving in. She's wacky, but I still enjoy her. 

Bethenny is not aging well. Perhaps if she gained a few pounds she would look more youthful. 

Luann goes to a beautiful hat store but could only come up with that Bohemian Bo Derrick style monstrosity.

I like Tinsley so far. She is obviously on a repair the reputation campaign but so what?! If she really wants a baby she better either hurry up and meet the guy, or become a single parent. I may be the only one, but I thought the dresses Tinsley tried on were lovely! 

Edited April 13, 2017 by Juliegirlj

[Misslindsey]

Real Housewives of New York City is the franchise where currently I like all the ladies. My like and dislike of them varies from episode to episode and moment to moment, but I do not mind Ramona, Sonja, Dorinda, Bethenny, Carole, or Luann overall. I will be at my table for one for liking Bethenny. I find she says a lot of what I am thinking.

I was probably like Carole more than I care to admit during the election. I really do not want to watch her election night party, because I will probably cry. I did have a pretty major crying jag that night and the next day.

I feel like Ramona has always been oblivious, dismissive, and rude at times, which cracks me up to watch. Probably irritating to be around in person. It seems like she is even more oblivious, dismissive, and rude this season. Something seems off with her.

I thought some of the comments from Sonja's rent-a-butler were funny and some were not. If I was there I would love to snark with him in the background.

I do not really have much of an impression of Tinsley yet. So was being a socialite her actual job? I did not mind Bethenny saying hello to Tinsley and then making the rounds first. I did think Bethenny could have went back and made small talk with her sometime during the party though. It is probably just me, but Tinsley sounds sort of flighty and ditzy. I will have to see more of her to judge.

I did not like Luann's dress. It looked dated to me. Lu did not have any other florals or colorful dresses in her closet? Lu generally dresses pretty well, so I was surprised that she wore something that looked so dated.

Sonja is mad at Dorinda over not being invited to the Berkshires? Seriously? I do not follow these women on social media, but what did Sonja say about Dorinda that Dorinda is mad about?

Edited April 13, 2017 by Misslindsey

[Mozelle]

When I learned this show was coming back, I told myself I wouldn't watch. And then there I was last night, watching the first episode so that I could be prepared for episode two. 

I feel conflicted about the LuAnn deal. I don't like LuAnn--she's rubbed me the wrong way for many many seasons--and I think the other women commenting about her "double life," so to speak, can be much (though, they do make me laugh). LuAnn should be allowed to live in her open relationships if she wants. Yet, I also get why the women still, to this day call her out. It's hard to let go of someone putting on airs and acting superior and "Oh, dahling, I would nevah!" when you know they sooooo would. As such, we get this continuous loop of snark tossed LuAnn's way about her romantic pairings. 

In the case of Carole and her comment about being better informed. She directed it to Ramona, and I'm of the opinion that Carole is a helluva lot more informed than Ramona. I'm not even getting into Ramona's penchant for malapropisms. I'm talking about how Ramona doesn't see past her nose, so I don't know how she understands what's going on in the world. Ramona is similar to this current president in that she doesn't know what the hell is happening and when you ask her something direct, she focuses on some inconsequential bullshit...like the amazing chocolate cake she had at dessert. 

[sasha206]

12 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

I did not like Luann's dress. It looked dated to me. Lu did not have any other florals or colorful dresses in her closet? Lu generally dresses pretty well, so I was surprised that she wore something that looked so dated.

 

I agree. Not only did it look dated but the dress and the hat looked cheap too.  After watching her the last two seasons, she looks like someone who married someone who she thought had money and then finds out it's all his parents money so the two of them are living off of her Bravo check and then trying to live the Real Housewives caliber lifestyle.  

Edited April 13, 2017 by sasha206

[NYCNJbear06]

Ironically enough I found this episode really entertaining in the way I found RHONY in the early years.  Drama and snarky but not too over the top nasty as it has gotten.  Made me nostalgic. LOL   Don’t get me wrong the crazy is still there.

Carole – Go ahead and just say it you don’t think Ramona is smart.  That whole exchange was partly Carole’s condescension regarding her journalistic cred and others acknowledging that she knows more than them and partly her feeling that Ramona is dumb as a bag of rocks so she couldn’t possibly have an opinion worth respecting or even entertaining.

Ramona – Throughout the episode I just kept thinking Ramona is off her meds or took too many of her meds.  She is exhaustingly manic.  No one believes that you are world wind dating no matter how skanky you look with a ratty ponytail and scarf hiding the nonexistent hickey. She did the same “Oh I just rolled in from a date I get so much action” move before in FL for Luann’s engagement party where she joined the girls in the morning after her supposed “walk of shame”.  Plus your rudeness knows no bounds – how are you going to come into a party and not find your bff host and say hi before jumping on the sandwiches, not as bad as when you were the first to eat the wedding cake and the doggie wedding, but equally as rude.  With Luann’s marriage, let it go! Stay out of her business.  No she wouldn’t invite you to her bachelorette party. Why?  So you can have a Tourette’s fit and say negative things about the upcoming wedding and marriage.  Luann should have just said, I didn’t want you there because I wanted to enjoy my party and honestly I don’t trust that you would attend and be positive and I didn’t want to take that chance.  Issue closed.   Bethenny and the puppies – WTF was that.  You breeze in and ignore the hosts request to take of your shoes, and then say you are ignoring the puppies because you didn’t get an email and then make this production about going over and fawning over them.  That scene was just crazy and just confirmed even more so that Bish Cray.

Sonja – Producers please don’t show anymore of her burlesque act. It is cringeworthily difficult to see even for 10 secs.  I found it interesting that one of Sonja’s complaints about her falling out with Luann was disappointing because she wouldn’t be in the wedding party. Ummm what?  That pretty much sums up Sonja- she hates being left out of the party.

[Ki-in]

If Sonja is running a home for wayward women is Carole running a youth hostel for wannabe model/chef/photographers/documentarians?

[sasha206]

I just looked at Carole's twitter. She's insufferable.  

[BloggerAloud]

At this point, we're just a hop, skip and eight count away from Ramona doing her own version of "My Girlfriend Who Lives in Canada" because that's about how convincing her entire schtick this season about going on all of these hot dates is.

[Normades]

Things I’ve learned from the first to episodes of this seasons RHONY:

It’s okay to come to a party early and start scarfing down food before the hostess offers them or any other guests arrive.

Putting a scarf around my neck and claiming I have a hickey will fool everyone.

You should really try to Bearry the Hadjet.

Naming your dogs Biggie and Smalls is TOTALLY gangsta.

People who worked in newsrooms over a decade ago are more informed than anyone else.

Prince Albert doesn’t mind if you show up for a date with him wearing a shirt with the tag still on it, plus it’s completely okay to leave your skirt at his place.

Kicking dogs and babies is fine.  They are resilient.

[archer1267]

Tinsley reminded me a little bit of Julia Duffy, the actress who played Stephanie on Newhart. I like her so far for being everything that Bethenny isn't - open about her life and putting it all out there, warts and all.

LuAnn's outfit made me think she was trying for a Coachella bohemian look - albeit an age-appropriate one.

I didn't think Hannah would come back after she got raked over the coals a couple of seasons ago. Still the same obnoxious, entitled bratty person. I was waiting for Dorinda to say "you wanna couch? We're going to IKEA." It's weird to comment on the mark-up on a $2 bottle of water but think your unemployed daughter needs a custom couch for her first apartment. Anyway, with her aviators on, the hair and makeup, I initially thought, "Why is Marilyn Manson shopping with Dorinda?"

Totally with everyone else who thinks Ramona's "hickey-covering scarf" was a sham.

[thesupremediva1]

2 hours ago, mayvenne said:

I would say Ramona= Vicky (RH of Orange County)......

Oh, this might be the most fun we can have with this boring ep (equally as boring as the premiere). Let's list the counterparts based on this ep's behavior:

Ramona = Vicky: OG of the group, in every episode, constantly going on about an ex and trying to make him jealous with pathetic on-camera antics, often at odds with a long-term friend, and now, wayyyyy too much facial surgery -- Seriously, what the hell has Ramona done to herself? Her face looks like it's on two different rows of a graph and needs to be brought level with itself. That scarf looked like something a figure skater would wear. If you're hiding a hickey, you put on a big fluffy scarf. Duh.

Bethenny= Heather: East-coast savvy brunette, sanctimonious pain in the ass, God complex, insufferable know-it-all (TM Alan Rickman as Snape), squawks about how bored she is with any storyline that doesn't focus on her sheer perfection, enjoys putting others down... man I could go on but that's a bit too much negativity even for me. Oh wait, the most obvious one: Skeletal AF and likes to call out others for being underweight in a total hypocrite move.

Sonja=Tamra: Aging blonde hanging onto her looks with everything she has, kids kept off-screen by ex-husbands, came on the show acting like the hottest thing since sliced bread and endured public divorce and legal issues, still has a nice body and a pretty face thanks to not messing it up with too much surgery. Though let's be clear, Tams has a legit business. I do appreciate Sonja's style much more than Tamra's - I thought Sonja's black floral for the Mad Hatter party was gorgeous. Sonja should probably let go of the Tom thing. But hey, keep your townhouse and stay mad at Dorinda if you want. If a friend excluded me like that, I'd be sure to stop inviting them to stuff as well. Sonja once spoke of a pecking order, so the tit for tat seems on par with her usual behavior.

Dorinda=Shannon: Relatively new addition that's been highly popular with viewers as she's not afraid to go after the old guard of cast members. Other than being diminutive blondes, that's all I got, except for the fact that their SOs aren't exactly popular with fellow cast or viewers. I somehow find John less onerous than David. Dorinda is awesome, but geez, Hannah has to go. What was that lipstick?! Good to know her dad is paying for everything. Must be nice.

Carole=Meghan: Investigative journalist and another annoying know-it-all. Tries to act like a "girl." Jesus, if Carole keeps up this election BS she's going to bring the whole season down. News flash, oh wise journalist: Your professional credentials don't give you the right to shut others down if they disagree with you - or talk over top of them if they ask you politely to cease attempting to convert them. Meghan has been known to behave similarly when trying to convince others she's right. 

Luann = Kelly: Let's be real, Luann has twice the class of Kelly, even as an erstwhile member of faux royalty. But they're both lightning rods for controversy. I kinda love how Luann has reinvented herself on this show. She's a worthy adversary for Bethenny now. She gets Beth all riled up and then just saunters away in form-flattering jeans. I felt similarly watching Kelly annoy the crap out of Dubrow last season. Meanwhile, Bethenny is shrieking like a lunatic while looking more gaunt than ever. Bottom line: Luann looks happy even in her old Ralph Lauren and wedges being married to a known playboy. Beth could wear the most expensive couture on the planet, there's no covering up the misery coming out of her maw. She's the definition of a hater. 

And we all know why Beth is avoiding and will eventually hate on Tinsley: Tinsley is younger, fresher, and pulls off super thin without looking like she's skipped a month's worth of meals. She's also nowhere near as bitter as Beth, and darling Beth won't suffer that gladly.

Edited April 13, 2017 by thesupremediva1

[QuinnM]

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I just looked at Carole's twitter. She's insufferable.  

I can't follow her.  I just can't.  I do follow Bethenny.  She must have social media specialists because it is just the right tone, just the right amount of retweet, just the right amount of recipes at her site etc.  I wanted to like following Dorinda because I do like the Berkshire house porn.  But you get very little of that and during the RHONY you get about 40 million retweets of people telling her she's fabulous.  Then I don't follow Ramona or Luann because I just don't care.  Right now the best follow is Bethenny on Snap.  That was a little too much during the all puppies all the time phase but it appears shes past that and now it is just fabulous weekend trips to Mexico, Aspen, etc.

[thefog]

32 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I agree. Not only did it look dated but the dress and the hat looked cheap too.  After watching her the last two seasons, she looks like someone who married someone who she thought had money and then finds out it's all his parents money so the two of them are living off of her Bravo check and then trying to live the Real Housewives caliber lifestyle.  

Well, she was the Count's 4th wife, so how much money was there really to go around.  After their divorce, she had to give up their townhouse in NY.   She sold a lot of her belongings.  And ended up selling her home in the Hamptons for a smaller one.  I wouldn't put it pass her that one of the reasons for marrying someone like Tom with a horrible reputation - is for financial stability.

Edited April 13, 2017 by escape

[njbchlover]

8 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

Oh, this might be the most we can have with this boring ep (equally as boring as the premiere). Let's list the counterparts based on this ep's behavior:

Ramona = Vicky: OG of the group, in every episode, constantly going on about an ex and trying to make him jealous with pathetic on-camera antics, often at odds with a long-term friend, and now, wayyyyy too much facial surgery -- Seriously, what the hell has Ramona done to herself? Her face looks like it's on two different rows of a graph and needs to be brought level with itself.

Bethenny= Heather: East-coast savvy brunette, sanctimonious pain in the ass, God complex, insufferable know-it-all (TM Alan Rickman as Snape), squawks about how bored she is with any storyline that doesn't focus on her sheer perfection, enjoys putting others down... man I could go on but that's a bit too much negativity even for me. Oh wait, the most obvious one: Skeletal AF and likes to call out others for being underweight in a total hypocrite move.

Sonja=Tamra: Aging blonde hanging onto her looks with everything she has, kids kept off-screen by ex-husbands, came on the show acting like the hottest thing since sliced bread and endured public divorce and legal issues, still has a nice body and a pretty face thanks to not messing it up with too much surgery. Though let's be clear, Tams has a legit business. I do appreciate Sonja's style much more than Tamra's - I thought Sonja's black floral for the Mad Hatter party was gorgeous.

Dorinda=Shannon: Relatively new addition that's been highly popular with viewers as she's not afraid to go after the old guard of cast members. Other than being diminutive blondes, that's all I got, except for the fact that their SOs aren't exactly popular with fellow cast or viewers. I somehow find John less onerous than David. Dorinda is awesome, but geez, Hannah has to go. What was that lipstick?! Glad to know her dad is paying for everything. Must be nice.

Carole=Meghan: Investigative journalist and another annoying know-it-all. Tries to act like a "girl." Jesus, if Carole keeps up this election BS she's going to bring the whole season down. News flash, oh wise journalist: Your professional credentials don't give you the right to shut others down if they disagree with you - or talk over top of them if they ask you politely to cease attempting to convert them. Meghan has been known to behave similarly when trying to convince others she's right. 

Luann = Kelly: Let's be real, Luann has twice the class of Kelly, even as an erstwhile member of faux royalty. But they're both lightning rods for controversy. I kinda love how Luann has reinvented herself on this show. She's a worthy adversary for Bethenny. She gets Beth all riled up and then just saunters away in form-flattering jeans. Meanwhile Bethenny is shrieking like a lunatic while looking more gaunt than ever. Bottom line: Luann looks happy even in her old Ralph Lauren and wedges. Beth could wear the most expensive couture on the planet, there's no covering up the misery coming out of her maw. She's the definition of a hater. 

And we all know why Beth is avoiding and will eventually hate on Tinsley: Tinsley is younger, fresher, and pulls off super thin without looking like she's skipped a month's worth of meals. She's also nowhere near as bitter as Beth, and darling Beth won't suffer that gladly.

I'm thinking you may be right.  Not only because of all the things you mention, but also, Tinsley was an "IT Girl", basically because she was striking and came from a "good family" and  then married well.  Tinsley was part of the inner circle of the UES.  As much as Bethenny continues to lambaste that social set, and make fun of it, I think that she envies the fact that she is not part of it, and probably never will be.

[Lady of nod]

39 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

In the case of Carole and her comment about being better informed. She directed it to Ramona, and I'm of the opinion that Carole is a helluva lot more informed than Ramona. I'm not even getting into Ramona's penchant for malapropisms. I'm talking about how Ramona doesn't see past her nose, so I don't know how she understands what's going on in the world. Ramona is similar to this current president in that she doesn't know what the hell is happening and when you ask her something direct, she focuses on some inconsequential bullshit...like the amazing chocolate cake she had at dessert. 

Ramona, who has never been a example of having a keen intellect, is coming undone. I never understood how she was a "savvy business woman" because she just isn't that smart, and her people skills have always been sorely lacking. But this season so far, she is just totally off the rails. Mario, liar and cheater, yes, must have been the force behind her success and the glue that held her together, along with Avery. With Mario gone and Avery at school she is flying solo and about to crash and burn. And I do believe all her dating talk is a desperate try to get Mario back. She also seems to be adapting B's scorched earth persona though I'm not sure why other than perhaps she has lost her own.

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

Tinsley may have been the "It Girl", but Dorinda is now the Everything Woman. I adore her, and love that she puts herself out there with minimal makeup. She looks great with little makeup and a robe. 

I agree. Dorinda isn't classically beautiful, but there's something about the way she carries herself and refuses to give into the plastic surgery craze that makes her really lovely to look at. 

 

55 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

Real Housewives of New York City is the franchise where currently I like all the ladies. My like and dislike of them varies from episode to episode and moment to moment, but I do not mind Ramona, Sonja, Dorinda, Bethenny, Carole, or Luann overall. I will be at my table for one for liking Bethenny. I find she says a lot of what I am thinking.

 

You're not at a table for one! B does/says some horrible things sometimes, but I just can't quit her. I agree thatshe often voices my inner thoughts. And yes, I vacillate on these women weekly. I hope this season doesn't go too dark. Right now, even when they're offputting, the ladies are giving me laughs. 

 

36 minutes ago, NYCNJbear06 said:

Ramona – Throughout the episode I just kept thinking Ramona is off her meds or took too many of her meds.  She is exhaustingly manic.

But see, to me, Ramona has ALWAYS been like this. When HASN'T Ramona talked a mile a minute and said crazy things and bounced around like a jacked up gummy bear? When Carole and Bethenny were making eyes at each other while Ramona cuddled the dog, I thought - "What? This is typical Ramona". 

Edited April 13, 2017 by ghoulina

[ElDosEquis]

10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Upon rewatch Beth just said she looks like a piñata, wonderful let's beat the shit out of her with sticks and see what falls out, my bet is on Skinny Girl (TM) merchandise.

A piñata is usually filled with treats and sweets, Beth is filled with bile, hatred and feces.

[Yours Truly]

46 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

When I learned this show was coming back, I told myself I wouldn't watch. And then there I was last night, watching the first episode so that I could be prepared for episode two. 

I feel conflicted about the LuAnn deal. I don't like LuAnn--she's rubbed me the wrong way for many many seasons--and I think the other women commenting about her "double life," so to speak, can be much (though, they do make me laugh). LuAnn should be allowed to live in her open relationships if she wants. Yet, I also get why the women still, to this day call her out. It's hard to let go of someone putting on airs and acting superior and "Oh, dahling, I would nevah!" when you know they sooooo would. As such, we get this continuous loop of snark tossed LuAnn's way about her romantic pairings. 

In the case of Carole and her comment about being better informed. She directed it to Ramona, and I'm of the opinion that Carole is a helluva lot more informed than Ramona. I'm not even getting into Ramona's penchant for malapropisms. I'm talking about how Ramona doesn't see past her nose, so I don't know how she understands what's going on in the world. Ramona is similar to this current president in that she doesn't know what the hell is happening and when you ask her something direct, she focuses on some inconsequential bullshit...like the amazing chocolate cake she had at dessert. 

I'm wondering what did Lu, back in the day, truly admonish with this group? Wasn't her biggest offense weighing in on manners? Like basic etiquette? I mean did she ever shame any of the ladies about anything real or was it just a bunch of corrections about elbows on the table and  how to be demure or her advice to not be too foward with men or indoor voice vs. outdoor voice? I've watched this show starting with season 2, (but went back and watched season 1 after so I have seen all the seasons) and I remember a thing about The Countess was her annoying "class" theme that everyone took waaaaayyyy too seriously but I don't remember where Lu every really, truly chastised any of the ladies or shamed them using some wordly, superior, "she who is the almighty knowing in all things lady" schtick.  The only huge conflict she had was with Carole and that had a whole story attached but other than that I don't recall The Countess being anything but eyeroll worthy at times.

During times of conflict, well shit, of course I expect her to be catty. What I remember were conflicts, digs, well placed jabs that had the beneath me vibe (but come on if you gonna go in aren't ya gonna try to make it sting a little??) But all of this was usually in connection with some catty exchange with some other cast member, or building tension, animosity. So what's the big?

The other faux paus were usually minor and described by some as elitist (like how some reacted to her interaction with employees, big whoop) but for the most part when did Lu ever just go all clutching pearls and getting all scarlett letter on a cast mate? (Besides the whole Carole/Adam "scandal" which again had more to it than Lu deciding to be critical of Carole just because).

[Primetimer]

Find out whether she does or not in this week's rankings. (Spoiler: she's right, being an 'It girl' doesn't happen overnight.)

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[Trooper York]

I have to reluctantly admit that Carole really impressed me in this episode. She proved to me that she is still a journalist.

She is arrogant, elitist and repeats the conventional wisdom like she discovered the Theory of Relativity. She has the clueless arrogance of the bi-coastal elite media that despises regular people and displays the condescending nastiness of her preferred candidate. She does not know what she does not know and does not have the intellectual  honesty or talent to search out opinions of anyone other than the person in line in front of them at Zabars. She doesn't have a clue.

She is a true journalist and a card carrying member of the mainstream media. Bravo cub reporter. Get that scoop!

[ElDosEquis]

36 minutes ago, Normades said:

Things I’ve learned from the first to episodes of this seasons RHONY:

It’s okay to come to a party early and start scarfing down food before the hostess offers them or any other guests arrive.

Putting a scarf around my neck and claiming I have a hickey will fool everyone.

You should really try to Bearry the Hadjet.

Naming your dogs Biggie and Smalls is TOTALLY gangsta.

People who worked in newsrooms over a decade ago are more informed than anyone else.

Prince Albert doesn’t mind if you show up for a date with him wearing a shirt with the tag still on it, plus it’s completely okay to leave your skirt at his place.

Kicking dogs and babies is fine.  They are resilient.

Their revenge is leaving legos and half chewed Nylabones for you to step on, late at night.