Joe & Kendra: Looking Forward To Side Hugs

[Ohiopirate02]

7 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Sometimes I wonder just how much these fundies REALLY understand the birds and bees. I mean of course they know that intercourse can be for procreation, but I mean beyond that - how much do they really know about the mechanics and the biology behind it. 

What I am saying is that perhaps these fundies are genuinely surprised when they find themselves expecting because they ascribe it all (and I mean ALL) to God blessing them.

I think they know the basic logistics as to what needs to happen to make babies.  What they don't seem to know is how to deviate from that and get almost the same feeling without the risk of procreating.  I also think Joe and Kendra will continue to make babies because she is sexually attracted to Joe and likes sex.  

[Scarlett45]

17 hours ago, Angeltoes said:

I have a feeling it was more a case of Kendra thinking,"I'm tired but this will only take 30 seconds.  Might as well make him happy."

Ummm I don’t think so. I see the way she looks at Joe. And she’s a 22yrs old woman. She’s got a need for partnered sex like 90+ % of us (not denying asexual people exist). 

[Scarlett45]

27 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I think they know the basic logistics as to what needs to happen to make babies.  What they don't seem to know is how to deviate from that and get almost the same feeling without the risk of procreating.  I also think Joe and Kendra will continue to make babies because she is sexually attracted to Joe and likes sex.  

I think for them procreating isn’t a “risk”. I have no doubt Kendra WANTS to be pregnant. It’s not something she feels she needs to avoid. Now if one day that changes for her I don’t think Joe is the type that would guilt trip or coerce or rape her- and force her to have kids against her will. 
 

And yes I agree Joe and Kendra are hot for each other and sex is fun. 

[libgirl2]

Its still "fun" playing house and having sex. Wait til there are more kids! 

[Minivanessa]

26 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think for them procreating isn’t a “risk”. I have no doubt Kendra WANTS to be pregnant. It’s not something she feels she needs to avoid. Now if one day that changes for her I don’t think Joe is the type that would guilt trip or coerce or rape her- and force her to have kids against her will. 

And yes I agree Joe and Kendra are hot for each other and sex is fun. 

I agree. Also, I don't think they are ignorant of the facts of procreation. Remember, Joe grew up in a house where his mother's fertility cycles were tracked on a calendar by his sisters. And that calendar was hanging up for all to see in the kitchen. He had to have absorbed some information from all that. Joe and Kendra are good little Quiverfull fundies who are living the values their parents instilled in them. And of course, while enmeshed in Joe's family of origin and financially dependent on the JB Duggar business empire including the TLC money. 

Kendra not only wants to be pregnant, and she and Joe are hot for each other, but they appear to be quite the fertile couple. I don't wish them harm and I hope they manage to have a decent life with what seems likely to be at least half a dozen kids if not more. 

[Churchhoney]

6 hours ago, Jeeves said:

I agree. Also, I don't think they are ignorant of the facts of procreation. Remember, Joe grew up in a house where his mother's fertility cycles were tracked on a calendar by his sisters. And that calendar was hanging up for all to see in the kitchen. He had to have absorbed some information from all that. Joe and Kendra are good little Quiverfull fundies who are living the values their parents instilled in them. And of course, while enmeshed in Joe's family of origin and financially dependent on the JB Duggar business empire including the TLC money. 

Kendra not only wants to be pregnant, and she and Joe are hot for each other, but they appear to be quite the fertile couple. I don't wish them harm and I hope they manage to have a decent life with what seems likely to be at least half a dozen kids if not more. 

I especially look forward to Kendra teaching young children to read and do math and following up that stunt by teaching the entire high-school curriculum, so they can award all the blessings "Little Duggar Academy Diplomas" and pretend that means something. She seems to me to be a person who'll be totally up to doing that......

Or, I suppose, just send them to Bin.

In either case, I predict her kids will quickly suss out the methods of cheating six ways to Sunday in the homework and testing sections of their computerized "school" and swoop through the 12 grades without actually reading a page of their "lessons" or learning a damn thing except how to diss actual schools and the people who attend them with insults of many varieties, just like their parents and grandparents.

Edited August 20, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Zella]

I haven't seen this mentioned, but on the topic of the tackiness of the timing of the announcement (on Joy's due date), didn't Joe also propose to Kendra at Joy's wedding?

[crazy8s]

Kendra's mom must still be teaching some of her kids. maybe Garrett will go to the caldwell school with his uncle who is the same age

[PikaScrewChu]

It is mind boggling that Kendra has been pregnant or likely breastfeeding their entire marriage thus far.

I guess there was the wedding and reception where she wasn't pregnant. Does that count? 

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

I haven't seen this mentioned, but on the topic of the tackiness of the timing of the announcement (on Joy's due date), didn't Joe also propose to Kendra at Joy's wedding?

Maybe he's getting back at her for her earlier apostasy when he had to rein in her alleged doubts about the validity of the Duggar/IFB/Gothard way.

Having to waste your proselytizing skills on a sibling who ought to know better since you share the same super-godly parents is really a waste, you know. 

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

Kendra's mom must still be teaching some of her kids. maybe Garrett will go to the caldwell school with his uncle who is the same age

Here, Mom. After your homeschooling of me, I don't feel fully confident about teaching my kids through high school (as the law requires -- although I don't think that matters much to the Caldwells). So you take 'em on. 😁

That may work with Garrett, who can just piggyback on his same-age uncle. But I'm not sure mom'll want to do it for Kendra's additional blessings! By the time Garrett and whatshisname are done, she'll have been teaching kids for 30-years-plus while mostly raising smaller ones at the same time. I think you'd look forward to stopping at that point. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Churchhoney

[PikaScrewChu]

Just desserts for Ma and Pa Caldwell raising their daughters to be broodmares if they have to raise over a dozen grandchildren on top of their own.

Hell, I will throw in raising their great-grandchildren if Addison is married off at 19.

[Jeanne222]

Maybe Joe and Kenda will inherit the show!  I'm sure they will eventually retire Counting On and have a start up show with one of the youngers.

Joe and Kendra are sweet and well liked.  It could be them!

[Oldernowiser]

4 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I guess there was the wedding and reception where she wasn't pregnant. Does that count? 

There were maybe six minutes right after the reception, too...

Edited August 20, 2020 by Oldernowiser

[GeeGolly]

19 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

There were maybe six minutes right after the reception, too...

How generous.

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

There were maybe six minutes right after the reception, too...

It took longer than they expected to get the car to start. 

[PikaScrewChu]

1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

It took longer than they expected to get the car to start. 

DAMNIT JOSIAH AND YOUR PRANKS. I JUST WANT TO GET LAID.

-Joe, probably

[Genevrier]

For the thread title “Joe and Kendra: Counting On. And On. And On...”

[FizzyPuff]

5 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Maybe Joe and Kenda will inherit the show!  I'm sure they will eventually retire Counting On and have a start up show with one of the youngers.

Joe and Kendra are sweet and well liked.  It could be them!

Gosh no they are so Boring. Joe is shy and quiet and Kendra comes across shy sometimes and that giggling I’ll pass. What could they film of Joe & Kendra? Kendra at home with loads of kids running around and Joe “working” at the car lot. I don’t think they even go anywhere, How interesting 🥱 

[Zella]

I make fun of Jinger and Jeremy's vapid conversations (as I imagine them to be), but I suspect Joe and Kendra's chats are equally as mind-numbing. Probably just less thirsty. 

Edited August 21, 2020 by Zella

[fonfereksglen]

6 minutes ago, Zella said:

I make fun of Jinger and Jeremy's vapid conversations (as I imagine them to be), but I suspect Joe and Kendra's chats are equally as mind-numbing. Probably just less thirsty. 

Undoubtedly monosyllabic.  

[Zella]

8 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Undoubtedly monosyllabic.  

I didn't even try to write a parody conversation of them because they're so bland I couldn't think of anything. Jeremy is at least the gift that keeps on giving on that front. 

[Temperance]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

I make fun of Jinger and Jeremy's vapid conversations (as I imagine them to be), but I suspect Joe and Kendra's chats are equally as mind-numbing. Probably just less thirsty. 

Joe needs to be more thirsty if they keep reproducing at this rate. 

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Joe needs to be more thirsty if they keep reproducing at this rate. 

True. 

[Churchhoney]

5 hours ago, Temperance said:

Joe needs to be more thirsty if they keep reproducing at this rate. 

I have a feeling he may just believe that the Lord will provide.

I would hope he (and the other Duggarlings) would be giving some thought to how they'll cope with the growing child hordes if Jim Bob and  TLC don't turn out to be an actual loaves-and-fishes miracle for the whole family.

But I wonder whether the patriarch-is-the-umbrella-that-saves-you-from-everything thinking is so ingrained they can't allow themselves to think beyond it. I assume being a real go-getter in their situation would require thinking and acting beyond what JB wants of them. (i.e., demands of them, really) And maybe they're so infantilized they can't imagine doing that without fearing God will strike them down. .... I wish I weren't sort of serious when I say that, but I am.

Edited August 21, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Spazamanaz]

17 hours ago, Genevrier said:

For the thread title “Joe and Kendra: Counting On. And On. And On...”

 

Joe and Kendra: Still Counting!

[Temperance]

10 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I have a feeling he may just believe that the Lord will provide.

I would hope he (and the other Duggarlings) would be giving some thought to how they'll cope with the growing child hordes if Jim Bob and  TLC don't turn out to be an actual loaves-and-fishes miracle for the whole family.

But I wonder whether the patriarch-is-the-umbrella-that-saves-you-from-everything thinking is so ingrained they can't allow themselves to think beyond it. I assume being a real go-getter in their situation would require thinking and acting beyond what JB wants of them. (i.e., demands of them, really) And maybe they're so infantilized they can't imagine doing that without fearing God will strike them down. .... I wish I weren't sort of serious when I say that, but I am.

Joe does have a real estate license so that's something. 

[Churchhoney]

16 hours ago, Temperance said:

Joe does have a real estate license so that's something. 

I wonder whether JB really encourages the kids who have things like this that could be used kind of independently or at least aggressively on JB's behalf or to be independent or aggressive at all (which they'll need to be as he gets older and they get more kids) or whether he damps them down in some way. I wonder whether he'd really encourage and help out a son who gave signs of becoming a real-estate star? I'd think it'd be to everybody's ultimate benefit -- even his -- if he did. .... We don't seem to have seen any such thing yet, though, anyway..... I wonder whether that's because the kids are just too young and inexperienced yet, aren't talented, don't have much of a work ethic,...or something else.

Joe and Kendra; Counting. But we're not too good at math.

Edited August 22, 2020 by Churchhoney

[BigBingerBro]

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

Joe does have a real estate license so that's something. 

And if they were smart, they could create their own Real Estate company and all the howlers could work at it.  In a ramshackle way I think that's basically what they are doing at this point aside from the fledgling Champion Autos.

[Zella]

1 minute ago, BigBingerBro said:

And if they were smart, they could create their own Real Estate company and all the howlers could work at it.  In a ramshackle way I think that's basically what they are doing at this point aside from the fledgling Champion Autos.

I was just envisioning a Howler real estate company. And I started giggling about the idea of enforcing the "Coffee is for closers" rule on them. I bet nobody in that office would drink coffee for an eternity, the poor ignorant bastards. 

[cmr2014]

8 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I wonder whether JB really encourages the kids who have things like this that could be used kind of independently or at least aggressively on JB's behalf to be independent or aggressive at all (which they'll need to be as he gets older and they get more kids) or whether he damps them down in some way. I wonder whether he'd really encourage and help out a son who gave signs of becoming a real-estate star? I'd think it'd be to everybody's ultimate benefit -- even his -- if he did. .... We don't seem to have seen any such thing yet, though, anyway..... I wonder whether that's because the kids are just too young and inexperienced yet, aren't talented, don't have much of a work ethic,...or something else.

Joe and Kendra; Counting. But we're not too good at math.

No, there's no chance.

Joe's "real estate license" is 100% to save money on the buying and selling of real estate for their "flipping" business. I don't believe for one second that he would be allowed to work with buyers or sellers from outside the cult. If one of them actually had a talent, I think that JB would do whatever he had to do to discourage that child. Can you imagine how angry JB would be if one of his sons was successful outside of his "umbrella of authority?"

[rue721]

15 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I wonder whether JB really encourages the kids who have things like this that could be used kind of independently or at least aggressively on JB's behalf to be independent or aggressive at all (which they'll need to be as he gets older and they get more kids) or whether he damps them down in some way.

He must damp them down, because a lot of the careers the kids have been interested in could have been used independently. Josh being a lawyer, Siah being an accountant, even Jessa being a hairdresser or Jill going into nursing.

The other thing that holds them back, of course, is education. Most of them can’t even pass the GED, let alone the bar or CPA exam! But their terrible “education” is another instance of JB damping down their independence, too.

[Churchhoney]

7 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

No, there's no chance.

Joe's "real estate license" is 100% to save money on the buying and selling of real estate for their "flipping" business. I don't believe for one second that he would be allowed to work with buyers or sellers from outside the cult. If one of them actually had a talent, I think that JB would do whatever he had to do to discourage that child. Can you imagine how angry JB would be if one of his sons was successful outside of his "umbrella of authority?"

Yeah, that's what I think, too.

But I know that this opinion of JB is not a universal opinion....so.....just asking in case anybody has evidence that things are otherwise!

....Can you imagine how angry JB would be if one of his sons turned out to be the top seller or moneymaker in JB's own real-estate business!? THOU SHALT NOT TOP POP! is a commandment around there, I think.

Edited August 22, 2020 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

I think at least one of the reasons careers weren't supported in the Duggar family was because the kids would have to be educated with worldly students, by worldly teachers. I'm guessing if JB & M could have sent their kids to accredited schools run only by Fundies, Josh might be a lawyer and Jill might be a nurse. I think they would love to brag about their children having real jobs, but not at the risk of them becoming sinners.

As far as Joe having a real estate license, he's learning the family trade, working with JB and a couple of other Fundies. I think this is acceptable and if JB is as cheap as he says he is, he's probably hoping at least some of his kids start pulling in some money.

Does JD have a real estate license? Abbie made a comment about having to get used to not having a "weekly income" and feeling okay with how their income is. Do we know what JD does (other than TLC)?

[Nysha]

6 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I think at least one of the reasons careers weren't supported in the Duggar family was because the kids would have to be educated with worldly students, by worldly teachers. I'm guessing if JB & M could have sent their kids to accredited schools run only by Fundies, Josh might be a lawyer and Jill might be a nurse. I think they would love to brag about their children having real jobs, but not at the risk of them becoming sinners.

Liberty University & Bob Jones University are both accredited Fundy colleges, plus there is Clown College that seems to take anyone. I don't know about BJU, but Liberty has online classes. JB & M had a lot of options. JB does not want his children to out shine him or move beyond his sphere of control.

[rue721]

27 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm guessing if JB & M could have sent their kids to accredited schools run only by Fundies, Josh might be a lawyer and Jill might be a nurse.

16 minutes ago, Nysha said:

Liberty University & Bob Jones University are both accredited Fundy colleges, plus there is Clown College that seems to take anyone. I don't know about BJU, but Liberty has online classes. JB & M had a lot of options. JB does not want his children to out shine him or move beyond his sphere of control.

 

Yes, Liberty University, Bob Jones University, Patrick Henry College -- there are a lot of colleges that are specifically targeted at the fundie homeschooler who wants/needs a degree, because there are A LOT of those kids. There is no reason that the Duggar kidults couldn't have been homeschooled with the goal of the GED and then matriculation into a conservative fundamentalist college.

It would only have been helpful to JB if he could have had a lawyer son, an accountant son, etc etc etc....Or a contractor son, a plumber son, an electrician son. It's not just that none of the kidults have gone into white collar work that requires lots of degrees, none of them have gone into ANY skilled work that would allow them financial independence from their father. The closest is JD, who flies Daddy around on Daddy's planes and is living in an outbuilding on Daddy's property. (eyeroll)

And I also find it hard to believe that out of 19 children, NONE of them would enjoy learning and studying -- just plain old mental stimulation! -- and would feel drawn to study if they had that option. Jana is sitting there drawing still life after still life and gardening until her hands bleed, don't tell me that that woman wouldn't jump at some mental stimulation if she could get it without upsetting Lolli/Pops lol

I think the issue is the family dynamic more than religion. Everybody's gotta stay under JB's thumb *cough* I mean "umbrella."

[Westiepeach]

40 minutes ago, Nysha said:

Liberty University & Bob Jones University are both accredited Fundy colleges, plus there is Clown College that seems to take anyone. I don't know about BJU, but Liberty has online classes. JB & M had a lot of options. JB does not want his children to out shine him or move beyond his sphere of control.

BJU!!!! I just snorted out loud and scared my dog! Apparently I am still 14 years old! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Churchhoney]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think at least one of the reasons careers weren't supported in the Duggar family was because the kids would have to be educated with worldly students, by worldly teachers.

Except that there are a bunch of colleges and career-type schools that are partly or wholly fundie run and are accredited. All over the country! And they all welcome home schooled people with open arms. Patrick Henry College, for example, was founded by the HSLDA guy himself for the sole purpose of being the "Harvard" of home schoolers. And that's just one high-profile example.

(Patrick Henry is, admittedly, probably out of the Duggarlings' academic league -- but there could be a smart and intellectual one down in that pile somewhere....in fact, I think it's likely....but the kid's just buried).

I'm sure many if not most of the people Josh worked with in DC went to places like this. Even MacArthur's other school, The Master's University, shares the Duggars' key beliefs and behavior rules, even though JB and M claim to be Baptist, not Calvinist....I've never gotten the impression that the Calvinist v. Baptist thing was something JB and M actually cared about or even understood, though. And, like MacArthur, they reject evolution, embrace the patriarchy, etc. -- so all his fundamental stuff is their fundamental stuff as well......Plus, even the Baptist seminaries are full of "Calvinist Baptists" or "Baptist Calvinists" these days. So a school like his shouldn't be verboten territory to them at all. 

And Gothard has always been determinedly non-denominational, pulling members from every corner of the conservative Protestant and fundie worlds.. So there, in their main source of mingling and "closeness" with others, they've mingled with conservative Protestants of all kinds for most of the past three decades and they weren't tainted -- So why wouldn't a college or trade school where one of those people taught or sent a kid suit the Duggar "standards"? I'm sure there's at least one that they've heard about. 

To me, this says that if JB and M could claim ignorance of the availability of fundie-heavy post-secondary education and training in the distant past, they don't have an excuse any longer. They've had access to this information for years now. Yet we see, if anything, even less musing about getting some post-secondary training or a job that isn't JIm-Bob-lackey or baby-spurter among the younger Duggarlings than we did among the older ones.  

I don't think their behavior is mainly motivated by fear for their children's morals by exposing them to non-fundies. (although, of course, that's in there).   Given the evidence, seems to me a lot more likely that they mostly just don't want them to do or have anything that doesn't come directly from Meeechelle and Jim Bob (or, of course, ask for tuition or fee money) ....i.e., it's primarily about stinginess and control. 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Zella]

There are a number of Christian colleges in the area they could have sent those kids to. 

I think JB and Michelle want total control of their kids, and even sending them off to be educated by like minded people was ceding too much control to someone else. I know a few homeschool families like this. They make the idea of formal education, even at a Christian college, sound like a trap from Satan. I think education even at a fundie college would empower the children in a way that their parents fear. 

Edited August 22, 2020 by Zella

[GeeGolly]

5 hours ago, Nysha said:

Liberty University & Bob Jones University are both accredited Fundy colleges, plus there is Clown College that seems to take anyone. I don't know about BJU, but Liberty has online classes. JB & M had a lot of options. JB does not want his children to out shine him or move beyond his sphere of control.

4 hours ago, rue721 said:

Yes, Liberty University, Bob Jones University, Patrick Henry College -- there are a lot of colleges that are specifically targeted at the fundie homeschooler who wants/needs a degree, because there are A LOT of those kids. There is no reason that the Duggar kidults couldn't have been homeschooled with the goal of the GED and then matriculation into a conservative fundamentalist college.

It would only have been helpful to JB if he could have had a lawyer son, an accountant son, etc etc etc....Or a contractor son, a plumber son, an electrician son. It's not just that none of the kidults have gone into white collar work that requires lots of degrees, none of them have gone into ANY skilled work that would allow them financial independence from their father. The closest is JD, who flies Daddy around on Daddy's planes and is living in an outbuilding on Daddy's property. (eyeroll)

And I also find it hard to believe that out of 19 children, NONE of them would enjoy learning and studying -- just plain old mental stimulation! -- and would feel drawn to study if they had that option. Jana is sitting there drawing still life after still life and gardening until her hands bleed, don't tell me that that woman wouldn't jump at some mental stimulation if she could get it without upsetting Lolli/Pops lol

I think the issue is the family dynamic more than religion. Everybody's gotta stay under JB's thumb *cough* I mean "umbrella."

I had no idea there were so many real Fundy colleges. Are these as extreme as Gothard type teachings? Do they follow all the outwardly foolish modesty rules? Do they infuse Christianity into all their lessons?  Do they have the same courses as mainstream schools?

 

[Heathen]

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I had no idea there were so many real Fundy colleges. Are these as extreme as Gothard type teachings? Do they follow all the outwardly foolish modesty rules? Do they infuse Christianity into all their lessons?  Do they have the same courses as mainstream schools?

 

Mostly. 

Yes.

Yes. 

Some, in their own way.

Their presidents tend to be Gothard-level assholes and hypocrites, too (see: Falwell, Jerry, Jr.). 

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Mostly. 

Yes.

Yes. 

Some, in their own way.

Their presidents tend to be Gothard-level assholes and hypocrites, too (see: Falwell, Jerry, Jr.). 

Interesting. I thought they were mostly Christian colleges where students would run into the same type of shenanigans as mainstream colleges.

[Heathen]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Interesting. I thought they were mostly Christian colleges where students would run into the same type of shenanigans as mainstream colleges.

They do. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference is that at Fundie College, having a beer or having sex or wearing spaghetti straps might get you kicked out. 

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Heathen said:

They do. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference is that at Fundie College, having a beer or having sex or wearing spaghetti straps might get you kicked out. 

Which might be a reason why so many Fundy families discourage, or outright forbid their kids from attending the colleges.

[Churchhoney]

W

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Interesting. I thought they were mostly Christian colleges where students would run into the same type of shenanigans as mainstream colleges.

Well, there's no place on earth where you don't get shenanigans. But there are places where it almost seems more common, as has been noted, to see the shenanigans done by the college administrators more than by the students. And the teachings accord with those of the Duggars. And in some of these schools the shenanigans are much fewer than they are in other schools.

Of course, when it comes to JB and M sheltering their kids from shenanigans, not only did they fail completely to do that inside their own home but they then excused it by going with their cult's (all too accurate) line that it happens in most families in their group. .... So if you are placid about incestuous-type shit going on in the holy families you recommend and are happy to be in the middle of, it's hard to see how a small Christian college would be a much scarier environment. ...Or even a scarier environment than a family in which your damn father pretends to hump your mother on a mini-golf course.

The Duggar parents are hypocrites of the highest order.

Edited August 22, 2020 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

7 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

The Duggar parents are hypocrites of the highest order.

True statement.

[FizzyPuff]

6 hours ago, rue721 said:

And I also find it hard to believe that out of 19 children, NONE of them would enjoy learning and studying -- just plain old mental stimulation! -- and would feel drawn to study if they had that option.

Joseph did go to Crown College, although I think that was more to do with him supposedly courting a Bates girl, I don’t think he was interested in getting an education. 
I feel like Josiah would’ve loved to go to college but more to get away from his family than anything. I’m sure there were a few others who wanted to go to college Jill? Jana etc 

Edited August 22, 2020 by FizzyPuff

[madpsych78]

While these are all interesting points about how the number of Duggar kids with interests in higher education is unusually low even by fundie standards, here's another angle: Could their involvement with TLC have any influence on such decisions?

ETA: I'm not saying that TLC discouraged any of the kids from going to school - quite the contrary, it would have made good storyline. What I'm saying is that perhaps the Duggars saw no need to pursue higher education because they've got money from TLC via Boob.

Edited August 22, 2020 by madpsych78

[Churchhoney]

7 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

While these are all interesting points about how the number of Duggar kids with interests in higher education is unusually low even by fundie standards, here's another angle: Could their involvement with TLC have any influence on such decisions?

ETA: I'm not saying that TLC discouraged any of the kids from going to school - quite the contrary, it would have made good storyline. What I'm saying is that perhaps the Duggars saw no need to pursue higher education because they've got money from TLC via Boob.

Well, I certainly think that the complete absence of walking-away-to-live-my-own-life in this family has been true because JB has real estate and TLC provides both money and sweet sweet fame. .... So not getting a career or an education may at least partly result from that complacency, too. ....

I still think that even in a complacent rich family you do tend to get a kid or two with aspirations that arise from people's imaginations and from their interior and not from just a desire to work for a good living. So I wonder why that hasn't happened here. But the TLC money as part of the chain that weighs them down and keeps them in place? I do agree that it is. 

[CalicoKitty]

Perhaps JB and Jchell realize how terrible their homeschooling really is, and they don't want any examples out in the real world.  Just don't let the kids even try, so no one can see how much they don't know.  It's not like they put any effort into education.