Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

When she was in labor the last time, Joy said she was done and she wanted to adopt.

Take it from me, nearly everybody says that at a certain point in labor.  The ones that don't say it are thinking it.

Edited March 12, 2023 by Notabug

[Stevie Nicks]

17 hours ago, floridamom said:

Between the c-sections, a lost pregnancy, large babies and another failed glusose test, if I were these two I would seriously consider a smaller family. Nothing wrong with 3 children with a healthy/living mother.

Exactly. I wonder, since she is actually seeing an actual Dr, if said Dr won't suggest that at some point. 

[ginger90]

3 hours ago, Stevie Nicks said:

Exactly. I wonder, since she is actually seeing an actual Dr, if said Dr won't suggest that at some point. 

She’s seeing a specialist.

[Jynnan tonnix]

On 3/12/2023 at 12:19 PM, Notabug said:

Yes, Evelyn was a VBAC and Joy seemed to do pretty well with the labor.  Looking at a pregnant woman is no way to determine the size of the child.  Joy is somewhat short and short-waisted; she will always look bigger than most at the end of a pregnancy, she doesn't have anywhere for her belly to go but out.  An experienced practitioner laying hands on her can predict the baby's size about as well as an ultrasound; both have a 10-15% range of error.

I presume she will try to deliver vaginally and her doctor will monitor her labor carefully and be ready to change plans if she has any difficulty.

My daughter is just a hair taller than 5'4", and very short waisted as well. She carried her first child (daughter) quite small for most of the pregnancy, and popped out at the very end. She went about a week and a half past her due date, and went into labor the morning they were going to induce her. Baby turned out to be about eight and a half pounds. Her second pregnancy, she carried all out in front from the beginning, and they were projecting a really large baby. Around seven months, they started talking about C-sections because they thought the baby was already upwards of eight pounds, but as her due date got closer, the estimated size kept getting smaller. She went into labor a day before her due date, and the baby (boy) was just a hair under seven and a half pounds.

I guess sometimes it's just hard to say.

[YupItsMe]

Joy has a new YT video answering questions. 

[Gemma Violet]

Here it is:

 

[jcbrown]

On 3/17/2023 at 6:13 PM, Gemma Violet said:

Here it is:

 

Did she use that AI people are using on photos to make herself look like a plastic robot? Yikes!

Edited March 19, 2023 by jcbrown

[FizzyPuff]

On 3/18/2023 at 1:13 AM, Gemma Violet said:

Here it is:

 

I like that she acknowledges that Austin doesn’t like doing YouTube videos, and basically does it to make her happy. 

Of course she’s homeschooling her kids ( Did someone really ask that?) 

They have a list of names and will decide when the baby’s born what to call him.

Also she wears pants now because there’s nothing in the bible against women wearing pants, I’m shocked I tell you 😜 

Someone asked if she missed the TV show she says she doesn’t miss the show but she does miss the camera crew, it was best for her family and she says she kinda wished it ended sooner, so I guess she had enough of being filmed after awhile. 

[Gemma Violet]

Latest video:

 

[YupItsMe]

Posters on Reddit are saying Joy has shown the faces of Jinger’s girls in this video, even after commenting on camera that she’s not supposed to show them.

[AstridM]

19 minutes ago, YupItsMe said:

Posters on Reddit are saying Joy has shown the faces of Jinger’s girls in this video, even after commenting on camera that she’s not supposed to show them.

Dumb twunt. Apparently she couldn’t be bothered to edit them out before sharing with millions of strangers. 🤦‍♀️

[farmgal4]

21 minutes ago, YupItsMe said:

Posters on Reddit are saying Joy has shown the faces of Jinger’s girls in this video, even after commenting on camera that she’s not supposed to show them.

I only saw Jinger’s youngest for maybe 2 seconds, and she had a paci in her mouth, so I’m sure I wouldn’t recognize her if I saw her again.

[AstridM]

6 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

I only saw Jinger’s youngest for maybe 2 seconds, and she had a paci in her mouth, so I’m sure I wouldn’t recognize her if I saw her again.

But why not simply edit that out?

[SMama]

1 hour ago, AstridM said:

But why not simply edit that out?

Yes, the issue is the lack of respect to the parents wishes. Typical Duggar laziness, and disregard for others.

[awaken]

Jessa looks pregnant. What else is new. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Fundies have just discovered matcha. They're so cute. 

[auntieminem]

Funny how Jing comes to town and stays with Joy, not at the big house (sure JB would not let them) or with Jinger's best friend and sister, Jessa (probably not enough room at her house). The sisters' time did have Michelle but no Jill. I hope she was invited but could not make it.  Or they got to visit and just didn't show it. Jana and Jason were spending extra time with them.  Saw Abbie so I assume JD was at Jessa's. I kind of fast forward through it so I might have missed lots of things. 

 

[AstridM]

24 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Fundies have just discovered matcha. They're so cute. 

10 years after everyone else 🤣.

[GeeGolly]

• Who was the little blonde boy sitting with Jason? He looked too small to be Truett or Charlie.
• Abbie did not look well.
• If that was Josiah I saw it looks like he has gained some weight.
• No Kendra or Joe?
• And Jinger didn't stay at BFF Jessa's house?!

[SMama]

12 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

• Who was the little blonde boy sitting with Jason? He looked too small to be Truett or Charlie.
• Abbie did not look well.
• If that was Josiah I saw it looks like he has gained some weight.
• No Kendra or Joe?
• And Jinger didn't stay at BFF Jessa's house?!

Could Abbie be pregnant? HG takes a toll on a person.

[madpsych78]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

• Who was the little blonde boy sitting with Jason? He looked too small to be Truett or Charlie.
• Abbie did not look well.
• If that was Josiah I saw it looks like he has gained some weight.
• No Kendra or Joe?
• And Jinger didn't stay at BFF Jessa's house?!

No, Jinger stayed with Joy. And Joy went to California to visit Jinger not too long ago. Seems like they are closer these days than before. Which is interesting when you factor in that Jeremy and Austin seem about as different as two people can get. 

Josiah, unfortunately, is starting to look like Josh. 

[Meow Mix]

I can't picture Jeremy being willing to stay in the TTH.  I'm surprised he agreed to stay with Joy and Austin.  Guess he couldn't grift a hotel.

Looking at this dull video, I often couldn't tell whose house they were in.  All of them look alike with the same beige everywhere.  And sorry, Jana still has no personality regardless of being suddenly into matcha.

[auntieminem]

15 hours ago, auntieminem said:

Funny how Jing comes to town and stays with Joy, not at the big house (sure JB would not let them) or with Jinger's best friend and sister, Jessa (probably not enough room at her house). The sisters' time did have Michelle but no Jill. I hope she was invited but could not make it.  Or they got to visit and just didn't show it. Jana and Jason were spending extra time with them.  Saw Abbie so I assume JD was at Jessa's. I kind of fast forward through it so I might have missed lots of things. 

 

I looked again. I think I saw Jill's boys briefly in the video. Looks like JB was at Joy's house when she had the family over but I find it hard to believe he would be there if Jeremy was. I didn't get a good look, but same looked like him talking to Austin in his jeans with the phone clipped to his belt. 

[floridamom]

I still could not understand one word Joy's children said in this video. Gideon is still sucking that damn thumb even after his dentist let Joy and Austin know that damage has already been done due to this. 

[sagittarius sue]

13 minutes ago, floridamom said:

I still could not understand one word Joy's children said in this video. Gideon is still sucking that damn thumb even after his dentist let Joy and Austin know that damage has already been done due to this. 

I thought Evy spoke more often and clearly in previous videos, not a good sign of progress.  At least Gideon didn't wildly run around this time.

[lookeyloo]

1 hour ago, floridamom said:

I still could not understand one word Joy's children said in this video. Gideon is still sucking that damn thumb even after his dentist let Joy and Austin know that damage has already been done due to this. 

That part I don't blame them for, the thumb.  Sweet Son sucked his thumb and I took him to a speech therapist who said we should put a "device" in his mouth to keep him from sucking his thumb.  I thought he needed it and that the device would be cruel.  I told him he could only suck his thumb in his room.  I would remind him when the thumb went in.  That limited it.  In a few months speech therapy was over and his speech was normal.  I don't know when he ever did stop sucking his thumb because I never saw it.  I knew it when he would disappear for a few minutes and then back he would come.  I wonder if Gideon had a hearing test too.

[riverblue22]

First they were at Joy's house and later they were at Jessa's house.  I think Jim Bob was at Jessa's house with them.  Imagine the conversation between Jim Bob and Jeremy!

I saw Felicity in several scenes.  They weren't close-ups and she just looked like a kid (with messy dark hair).

It must have been hard for Sir Jeremy to spend that much time with Jinger's relatives.  He looked thoroughly bored whenever I saw him in a shot. He probably couldn't wait to get back to the LA scene with his cool peeps!

[AstridM]

6 hours ago, auntieminem said:

I looked again. I think I saw Jill's boys briefly in the video. Looks like JB was at Joy's house when she had the family over but I find it hard to believe he would be there if Jeremy was. I didn't get a good look, but same looked like him talking to Austin in his jeans with the phone clipped to his belt. 

Is there a fundie mandate for those damn phone clips? 🤣

[CalicoKitty]

I would be ready to go back home to my own life, too.  I wouldn't have looked very happy, either.  I can't blame Jeremy.  That family now has many different outlooks on life when before they had to toe the line with JB.  That must be an interesting group.  I'm just glad I don't have to be one of them.

Edited April 2, 2023 by CalicoKitty

[SMama]

13 minutes ago, AstridM said:

Is there a fundie mandate for those damn phone clips? 🤣

Jill was making fun of Derick on a reel because he acquired one. I found it funny that she thought it a fashion faux pas, and just ugly. JB is no longer the perfect man in her eyes. 

[FizzyPuff]

On 4/2/2023 at 12:40 AM, riverblue22 said:

It must have been hard for Sir Jeremy to spend that much time with Jinger's relatives.  He looked thoroughly bored whenever I saw him in a shot. He probably couldn't wait to get back to the LA scene with his cool peeps!

Perhaps spending time with the Duggars would make Jer think about what it’s like to spend time with him? Or would it never occur to him that he probably bores people too 😂

[oliviabenson]

Jeremy is a RAD homie! He is a fun guy… don’t we all forget that!

(sarcasm)

[Joan of Argh]

On 3/4/2023 at 11:28 PM, Gemma Violet said:

Joy's latest video:

 

I’m happy to see the effort Joy put in to making Gideons birthday a special event and he was thrilled with everything but good grief he’s 5 years old and I couldn’t understand a single word he said!

what in the world is Joy thinking?!?!?!!

Gideon is desperately in need of an immediate intervention and Joy’s going around with her head in the clouds.  

 

[sagittarius sue]

I could understand most of what Gideon said, but I think he speaks and acts more like a 3 year old.  He doesn't seem able to form a complete sentence.  Perhaps because his parents don't speak in full sentences with their children.

[Gemma Violet]

Joy's latest video:

 

[BetyBee]

The Forsyths do seem to have a lot of fun outdoors. Joy seems to enjoy spending time with Austin's family. They made the best of rainy weather camping, which is easier to do in a giant camper than in tents! I could understand Gideon's speech. It was cute when he credited the wind for his newfound skill of riding a bike without training wheels. I like how Evy chooses not to answer the myriad questions Joy asks her for videos and just quietly chows down on her pickle or her sandwich.

[lookeyloo]

If not for their hideous beliefs it would be sweet.  Do these children look blanket trained?

[BetyBee]

13 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

If not for their hideous beliefs it would be sweet.  Do these children look blanket trained?

They don't look blanket trained to me. J&A are hands on parents who believe in naps and bedtimes. That's a difference from JB & Meech. I'm sure that they are instilling some awful beliefs in their kids, but they are loving parents. 

[AstridM]

40 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

They don't look blanket trained to me. J&A are hands on parents who believe in naps and bedtimes. That's a difference from JB & Meech. I'm sure that they are instilling some awful beliefs in their kids, but they are loving parents. 

Except for those pesky loaded guns that they’ve left lying around at toddler level. 

Edited April 8, 2023 by AstridM

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, AstridM said:

Except for those pesky loaded guns that they’ve left lying around at toddler level. 

True! I didn't say they were smart!

[YupItsMe]

Was the birthday party at the trampoline park only with Austin’s relatives?

[Gemma Violet]

Latest video:

 

[Salacious Kitty]

There was no BIG update. Just the news that they won't get plan her induction date, and baby is measuring on target. That was it. 

[MaryAnneSpier]

On 4/1/2023 at 7:33 PM, CalicoKitty said:

I would be ready to go back home to my own life, too.  I wouldn't have looked very happy, either.  I can't blame Jeremy.  That family now has many different outlooks on life when before they had to toe the line with JB.  That must be an interesting group.  I'm just glad I don't have to be one of them.

Now that some of the kidults have branched out a bit from their upbringing, and of course the fallout from Sex Pest, I think this family is, ironically, actually more interesting than they were when they lived a performative life for the TLC cameras. 

I grew up with some very similar beliefs, left those beliefs behind altogether, and have now reached a point in my spiritual journey where I can tolerate listening to Fundie Speak and file all my comments in the back of my mind for venting to my husband later, so I would be fascinated to spend some time with the whole group to see what it's actually like in their family with the changes that have happened over past two-three years. 

[ginger90]

15 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

There was no BIG update. Just the news that they won't get plan her induction date, and baby is measuring on target. That was it. 

Joy also “forgot” she has low iron, and hadn’t been taking the supplements.

 

 

[floridamom]

Joy just doesn't seem to care about her physical health much. She "forgot" about having low iron? What is wrong with her and why didn't Austin remind her to take care of herself? I also think her children are a bit annoying in those videos.

[GeeGolly]

Hope she didn't forget to take her shots.

Wasn't it just last month she said the baby was measuring very large? And now its on target? 

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Hope she didn't forget to take her shots.

Wasn't it just last month she said the baby was measuring very large? And now its on target? 

I don't recall what she said, but it can happen.  A kid can have a growth spurt and end up at the high end of the scale and then settle down and come back to the median.  Also, ultrasound is terrible at predicting fetal weight, particularly in kids that are larger or smaller than average.  Even the best third trimester ultrasound has a 10-15% range of error when predicting fetal weight and is most inaccurate at either end of the spectrum.  When it says a kid is too large, the error in the algorithm is more likely to overestimate than underestimate the weight.

So, if a kid is said to be 10 lbs at term by ultrasound; anything from 9-11 lbs is considered accurate.  And, at birth, if the weight is not accurate, the baby is more likely to be in the 9 lb end of the scale rather than the 11 lb.

There've been studies on predicting fetal weight at term in normal weight women,  Experienced OB's were asked to predict a fetal weight based on examining the mother's belly.  Then, an ultrasound was done.  At delivery, the experienced doctor's prediction was at least as accurate as the ultrasound and the doctor was less likely to overestimate the weight of large babies than the ultrasound.  Problem is, most residencies do not have time to teach their residents to do a proper exam and predict the weight.  I was taught to do it and place my estimate in the chart at every visit starting at 36 weeks and I must say, I am pretty darned good at it.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Notabug

[Jynnan tonnix]

13 hours ago, Notabug said:

I don't recall what she said, but it can happen.  A kid can have a growth spurt and end up at the high end of the scale and then settle down and come back to the median.  Also, ultrasound is terrible at predicting fetal weight, particularly in kids that are larger or smaller than average.  Even the best third trimester ultrasound has a 10-15% range of error when predicting fetal weight and is most inaccurate at either end of the spectrum.  When it says a kid is too large, the error in the algorithm is more likely to overestimate than underestimate the weight.

So, if a kid is said to be 10 lbs at term by ultrasound; anything from 9-11 lbs is considered accurate.  And, at birth, if the weight is not accurate, the baby is more likely to be in the 9 lb end of the scale rather than the 11 lb.

There've been studies on predicting fetal weight at term in normal weight women,  Experienced OB's were asked to predict a fetal weight based on examining the mother's belly.  Then, an ultrasound was done.  At delivery, the experienced doctor's prediction was at least as accurate as the ultrasound and the doctor was less likely to overestimate the weight of large babies than the ultrasound.  Problem is, most residencies do not have time to teach their residents to do a proper exam and predict the weight.  I was taught to do it and place my estimate in the chart at every visit starting at 36 weeks and I must say, I am pretty darned good at it.

Yup. As I mentioned at some point before, my daughter's second baby measured enormous by ultrasound a few weeks before she had him. They were actually thinking of not letting her go all the way to term, but then seemed to settle down and start measuring closer to target. He was a perfect 7.5 lb at birth.

[Salacious Kitty]

Joy didn't elaborate, but I am assuming they talked induction when baby was measuring large. She said they would talk about it again when she went back in two weeks (and starts weekly appointments at 35 weeks).