Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[Lady Whistleup]

I think the shorter waves look cute. 

[BitterApple]

Austin is such a dick and so is his father.

For starters, the haircut looks amazing and you could tell Joy felt like a million bucks when she left the salon. Poor thing just wanted her husband to say something nice and the most he could muster was a half-hearted "I don't hate it" followed by "it's short." Then to add insult to injury, he reveals his father ruined the surprise. Great guy 🙄.

[LilJen]

Anyone else completely underwhelmed by Joy’s “big announcement “ that she’s going to do vlogs? 

agreed Austin definitely came across as an unappreciative dickwad.

[oliviabenson]

If joy goes bald what will big nostrils say then ?

[YupItsMe]

She said on IG that he was very tired when he got home but that he really likes it now. Seems he had been driving for many hours.

[Lady Whistleup]

4 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Austin is such a dick and so is his father.

For starters, the haircut looks amazing and you could tell Joy felt like a million bucks when she left the salon. Poor thing just wanted her husband to say something nice and the most he could muster was a half-hearted "I don't hate it" followed by "it's short." Then to add insult to injury, he reveals his father ruined the surprise. Great guy 🙄.

I feel like it's these little microagressions that keep women "in their place" in the fundie world. They're not allowed to feel cute with a new haircut. You could tell Joy was so excited and visibly crestfallen when Austin was a dick about it.

[madpsych78]

I will say her mother-in-law seemed to be genuinely enthusiastic. And was she wearing pants?

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

I will say her mother-in-law seemed to be genuinely enthusiastic. And was she wearing pants?

I think everyone in Joy's circle wears pants now. Same hateful beliefs, though. 

[Gemma Violet]

2 hours ago, YupItsMe said:

She said on IG that he was very tired when he got home but that he really likes it now. Seems he had been driving for many hours.

The IG commenters are giving him hell for his reaction. Lol.  I don't think they believe the "tired" excuse.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

The IG commenters are giving him hell for his reaction. Lol.  I don't think they believe the "tired" excuse.

And they shouldn't. One can be tired and still pay a simple compliment. As I said, he's an ass. 

[BitterApple]

8 hours ago, Lady Whistleup said:

I feel like it's these little microagressions that keep women "in their place" in the fundie world. They're not allowed to feel cute with a new haircut. You could tell Joy was so excited and visibly crestfallen when Austin was a dick about it.

I agree. People think Austin is one of the more supportive Fundie husbands, but apparently that's only as long as Joy follows his playbook. The second she made an independent choice, he negged her into oblivion. Even Austin's father ruining the surprise felt deliberate like, "ain't no woman gonna hide something from my son!." Tired or not, they're horrible people. 

[GeeGolly]

I didn't watch the video. I have a question - was it so bad, Joy was stupid to post it?

[Dehumidifier]

22 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I didn't watch the video. I have a question - was it so bad, Joy was stupid to post it?

She kept basically asking him to say he liked it. At one point he said it should be (drew a line on her back) about a half inch longer. Weird. Maybe he was mad that she hadn't told him first. She should tell him to shave off that beard.

If she (or dad) hadn't mentioned the hair I wonder if he would have even noticed. Do men notice when women go from long to less long?

We've all seen the sitcoms where the man doesn't notice that the wife has gone from long to pixie cut.🤣

Edited November 26, 2022 by Dehumidifier

[Scarlett45]

5 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

She kept basically asking him to say he liked it. At one point he said it should be (drew a line on her back) about a half inch longer. Weird. Maybe he was mad that she hadn't told him first. She should tell him to shave off that beard.

If she (or dad) hadn't mentioned the hair I wonder if he would have even noticed. Do men notice when women go from long to a less long?

We've all seen the sitcoms where the man doesn't notice that the wife has gone from long to pixie cut.🤣

I think he would’ve noticed. There are social circles of men that are very particular about hair and what it means for a woman’s femininity and attractiveness. 
 

“I don’t hate it.” Is rude as hell though. Given Joy was excited about it, even if Austin wasn’t a fan he should’ve said “You look so happy babe”(or something along those lines)

[Dehumidifier]

8 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think he would’ve noticed. There are social circles of men that are very particular about hair and what it means for a woman’s femininity and attractiveness. 

That explains why Jana's hair is kept at a reasonable length and nicely trimmed. No hubby to tell her what to do.

[Snow Fairy]

Well maybe he doesn't like it, but still Joy was able to cut it without asking him first 

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I agree. People think Austin is one of the more supportive Fundie husbands, but apparently that's only as long as Joy follows his playbook. The second she made an independent choice, he negged her into oblivion. Even Austin's father ruining the surprise felt deliberate like, "ain't no woman gonna hide something from my son!." Tired or not, they're horrible people. 

I’ve always suspected that Austin is a controlling, arrogant, redneck dick. And his dad absolutely is.

Edited November 26, 2022 by AstridM

[Scarlett45]

15 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

Well maybe he doesn't like it, but still Joy was able to cut it without asking him first 

Let’s see if she does that again though. Or if she’s “allowed”. 

[Snow Fairy]

I also think Austin doesn't like to be filmed.

[madpsych78]

38 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

I also think Austin doesn't like to be filmed.

I agree, but I don't think he knew he was being filmed when he first stepped into the door. I really think we got the "real" Austin there, not "this is my persona for the camera" Austin.

[beckie]

11 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

I agree, but I don't think he knew he was being filmed when he first stepped into the door. I really think we got the "real" Austin there, not "this is my persona for the camera" Austin.

He should know he's being filmed, since Joy seems to be following Carlin's footsteps these days and filming everything.

[ChristmasCandy]

On 11/10/2022 at 10:57 PM, sixlets said:

I got the perfect sweater Joy could wear in her shilling videos--
I was going to wear this to our family's Thanksgiving lunch this year, but my husband thought it was a bit "too much" since everyone is Catholic.

I ordered this for my uncle on my ex husband side because it is perfect for his churches worst Christmas present luncheon. He is the priest.

[Madtown]

These fundie women have never had a say in anything in their lives, including who they marry. The fact they feel the need to have to keep this thick long hair their whole lives is ridiculous. So is having to ask permission to cut it(Jill with Derick). I know Joy didn’t seem to tell Austin ahead of time and he was a dick about the after look. 
Why these women don’t want to at least try to venture out of fundie rules and tell their husbands to fuck off, is beyond me(I know, easier said than done for them). 
When my husband and I were dating, I had hair a little past the middle of my back. I have thick hair and I couldn’t stand taking 25 minutes to dry it every day. Cut it to my shoulders. Was he shocked, sure, but he didn’t criticize it and actually liked it. He has always said he doesn’t care how I wear my hair and he doesn’t. I wear it pretty short now and will never grow it out. 
Joy, your hair looks GREAT and healthy. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Madtown

[Dehumidifier]

19 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Austin is such a dick and so is his father.

For starters, the haircut looks amazing and you could tell Joy felt like a million bucks when she left the salon. Poor thing just wanted her husband to say something nice and the most he could muster was a half-hearted "I don't hate it" followed by "it's short." Then to add insult to injury, he reveals his father ruined the surprise. Great guy 🙄.

It occurred to me that the father may have told Austin because he thought Austin wouldn't notice or wouldn't approve and he wanted Austin to give Joy a positive reaction.

I liked his father at the sex reveal. Joy was going around badgering everyone to guess boy or girl, wouldn't give up with some until they answered,  and he just said "it's a boy or a girl." He didn't sound nasty about it; he seemed like he thought the whole sex reveal was stupid.

[Lady Whistleup]

I don't get this fixation on hair length. Joy didn't chop it all off and go for a short punk rock look. She just got it cut, but it's still past shoulder length. Isn't that long enough for Austin? 

Also, it's not as if everyone in fundie land has super long hair. Mary Duggar always had a shortish bob, and Jim Bob for all his assholery seems to have adored his mother. Abbie and Jana also don't have super-long hair.

[lookeyloo]

And maybe he just didn't hate it. Mr lookeyloo has not liked all of my hair styles or lengths. I don't care and he doesn't care that I don't care. Maybe it's just that. Yes in an ideal world all spouses will at least act supportive but I think I can guarantee that a lot of non fundie perfectly adequate spouses Act the same And life goes on.  Yes joy seemed to care that Austin  liked it.  That's only one of the part of their beliefs I don't like  

[Salacious Kitty]

Mr. Kitty just says something like, "Oh, you got a haircut. Looks nice." I don't have to prompt him, and to be honest, he's not the most observant person, so I am surprised he even noticed. And since I am not doing anything drastic, he doesn't notice every time I get a cut. And I am fine with that. I get my hair done for me, not him. 

I hope Joy can learn not to lean so heavily on Austin's opinions and take some agency for herself.

[Lady Whistleup]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

And maybe he just didn't hate it. Mr lookeyloo has not liked all of my hair styles or lengths. I don't care and he doesn't care that I don't care. Maybe it's just that. Yes in an ideal world all spouses will at least act supportive but I think I can guarantee that a lot of non fundie perfectly adequate spouses Act the same And life goes on.  Yes joy seemed to care that Austin  liked it.  That's only one of the part of their beliefs I don't like  

I'd agree if Joy is the type of person who goes to the salon every week to get her nails done and normally makes a decent effort with appearance. But instead, Joy rarely makes much effort -- she doesn't wear hardly any makeup, she is more likely to go barefoot than to buy a pair of cute shoes. This time you could tell she really put in an effort and it was a big deal to her that she cut off all that hair and also styled it in a way that wasn't too short. So Austin should have at least recognized that she stepped outside her normal comfort zone and said something nice about it. 

[CalicoKitty]

But she stepped outside of his comfort zone (and control).  These fundy husbands take their right of unbrellaship seriously.

[Salacious Kitty]

21 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

But she stepped outside of his comfort zone (and control).  These fundy husbands take their right of unbrellaship seriously.

True. Fundie men think it's their way or the highway. They don't respond well to change, even to something as mundane as a haircut. Of course, HE can grow a nasty, scraggly, pubic hair beard, and SHE has to like it. 🙄

[madpsych78]

I think Austin was being quite petty about the length of Joy's hair. As was said, it's still below her shoulders. 

[GeeGolly]

Poor Joy, it seems as if she didn't realize how much backlash Austin would get for his comments. Apparently Carlin didn't teach her IG 101 - only post spouses in a good light.

[BetyBee]

I watched the video and I didn't think Austin was that big of a dick about it. It was late and he was tired, plus his idiot father had already ruined the surprise, which probably affected his reaction. I do think his Dad was a huge dick to do that when Joy really wanted to surprise her husband. My old boss, who was definitely not fundie, bleached the heck out of her hair (and likely still does) in order to please her husband's love of blonde hair. So it's not just fundie women who do their hair the way the husband likes. I do think Joy's hair is healthy and the cut was very nice. I predict she'll grow it back though. 

[farmgal4]

On 11/25/2022 at 2:50 PM, Gemma Violet said:

Joy cut quite a bit off her hair:

Austin's reaction: "I don't hate it."

That’s one of the most inane videos that I’ve ever watched.  She cut her hair.  Big fk’ing deal.  It’s definitely not something that‘s worthy of a video.  These people are ridiculous.

[ranchgirl]

9 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

That’s one of the most inane videos that I’ve ever watched.  She cut her hair.  Big fk’ing deal.  It’s definitely not something that‘s worthy of a video.  These people are ridiculous.

And it was a L O N G video.  

[madpsych78]

On the one hand, the video was detailing a pretty boring topic by most people's standards. But to fundies this may have been a big deal. IIRC, Jill did a video when she cut her hair, although I don't think she did a video when she dyed her hair.

[floridamom]

It's still long. She didn't get an above the shoulders layered style that changed her look. She just took off some length. Not video worthy IMO.

[CountryGirl]

Joy looks fantastic and I've long thought she's the prettiest of the Duggar gals.

Not to defend Austin, but if I was just getting in at 1am in the morning after working away from home all week and having driven several hours to get home, I wouldn't be the biggest fan of being immediately pounced on the very second I walked in the door for something that could have waited until I had a chance to sit down or perhaps a few hours of sleep. I get Joy was excited about her new hair and again, it's gorgeous, but she is not five and could have given him a little bit of time to chill before asking. 

Austin's dad was a dick though to share before Joy had the chance to. 

[Sweetpea12]

Didn't Joy have hair anxiety issues right before her wedding, (possibly just before she was getting dressed for the ceremony)?   I think she was undecided as to how to wear her hair for the wedding and wanted Austin's opinion.  He didn't seem to grasp how important his approval was to her.

[Gemma Violet]

New video:

[Salacious Kitty]

Lawsy, that was dull. My only takeaway is that Giddyup is barely verbal. I think Evy will be more coherent than him very soon, if she isn't already.

[BetyBee]

The mule reacted just like Austin when the camera was on him!

[BitterApple]

I can't believe Joy had Evy on that four-wheeler with no helmet. She's dumber than a box of rocks. 

[madpsych78]

Joy interacts with Evy similar to how Jessa interacts with Ivy. "Where are we going, SIS" and all that.

[GeeGolly]

"Day 4 or 5 of being sick, fortunately the kids didn't get what I have".

Is it me, or does it seem like Joy is avoiding saying covid?

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

"Day 4 or 5 of being sick, fortunately the kids didn't get what I have".

Is it me, or does it seem like Joy is avoiding saying covid?

She should look into what can happen to pregnant women and fetuses with Covid. . . 

[GeeGolly]

25 minutes ago, AstridM said:

She should look into what can happen to pregnant women and fetuses with Covid. . . 

Yup. So far I think Jill D and Erin Bates have had covid while pregnant - that we know of.

[AstridM]

30 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup. So far I think Jill D and Erin Bates have had covid while pregnant - that we know of.

And they got lucky .

[GeeGolly]

25 minutes ago, AstridM said:

And they got lucky .

Freddy did come early, which is typical of 'covid babies'.

[Ljohnson1987]

if she has the C virus, she shouldn't be ignoring it. With all of her issues this time, she shouldn't be an idiot.