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Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

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I’m in the minority here and don’t see their posting on SM being a millennial thing, or just because they are on TV. I’ve had 3 close friends who have gone through something very similar. One was preg

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Is that you, Michelle?

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doodlebug

If a midwife did a vaginal exam and was able to tell she was 6 cm, it should’ve been reasonably easy for that same midwife to diagnose the baby as breech. It seems to me that these midwives don’t lear

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SnapHappy

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I think Joy & Austin are probably the only couple in that cult that could survive a zombie apocalypse. 

They have good outdoor/MacGyver skills, a satisfaction with having just their basic needs covered, enough work ethic to take care of themselves and not too much brainpower to get in the way and make them over-think every decision.  Plus they seem easily amused. 

Sometimes barely literate and satisfied with a very low-set bar is the easiest way to live life.  And despite their deplorable political beliefs, they both seem pretty mellow.  

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louannems

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31 minutes ago, AmosTheAardvark said:

God, she is stupid. “Doing” school? Firmiliar? These kids are doomed. Allowing kids to be “homeschooled” by parents like this is child abuse, IMHO.

Firmiliar???!!!

 

Sorry, Amos!  I should have read your whole post and seen that you had caught the firmiliar!!!

Joy Joy Joy, please put your kids in school!

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Zella

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57 minutes ago, MrsKravitz said:

I’m more bothered by “c” for “cheese.”

That's a good point, but I also think the letter c sucks and is misleading even with a more straightforward word since it can be either a hard or soft C. Like, this is a weird hill I'm willing to die on, but I've long thought it could just be removed entirely from our alphabet and replaced with either a K or an S, depending on the word, and then we could just have a letter for CH like they do in Russian. These are things I think about at 3 am when I can't sleep. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. 

Firmiliar meanwhile has had me gagging for hours. It sounds like Nermal on Garfield and Friends' even more annoying cousin or something. 

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

10 hours ago, jcbrown said:

The point of that is...? I mean, I first dated my spouse in 1982 and the dating before we got married started in 1993. Sooooo... more than five years?

I think its just a "flashback" type photo. The first is when they started "seeing each other" and the second is a recent one. I wonder was the first also taken at the holidays, so their first holiday season together?

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

So much to unpack in Joy's short little IG story. Everything was so awkward and hardly made sense. The worst, besides Giddy searching under a couch for "last night's popcorn" was Joy saying she was "excited to stay off SM" for a month and was already planning activities with the kids, seemingly in place of SM time. And then there was the exciting ride to each lunch with Austin at the job site. Except Austin was eating with his coworkers and the kids sat with Joy, away from them, on a cold concrete floor. 

Oh and the biggest shocker. Joy and Austin are staying home tonight, "together", to celebrate the new year.

 

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Cinnabon

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42 minutes ago, Madtown said:

Joy said she is going off social media for a month. 

A whole month? 😆 

10 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

And then there was the exciting ride to each lunch with Austin at the job site. Except Austin was eating with his coworkers and the kids sat with Joy, away from them, on a cold concrete floor.

Damn, even her mom Jill got to eat lunch with Derick at Walmart every day.

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Rabbittron

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4 hours ago, Madtown said:

I can't imagine showing up at my husband's work all the time and with kids. We don't have kids and when I had to go to his work, I always felt in the way, even for the minute I was in there.

I totally agree when I was married I hated to have to go to his work or meet him after basketball with his coworkers at the bar.  His work was separate and I liked it that way. 

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Minivanessa

Minivanessa

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

It seems odd to me that decisions are made in extremes. Too much TV? Put the TV in a closet. Too much SM? Quit for a month.

Have they heard of moderation? Joy and Austin have plenty to do to fill their time, why do they need to resort to such extremes?

I see your point, especially about putting the TV in a closet. But IMO the real extremes would be more like getting rid of all TVs in the house (or covering the TV with a map like the infamous JillR) and deleting your SM accounts. Taking a break for a specific time like a month doesn't strike me as extreme. 

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GeeGolly

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18 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I see your point, especially about putting the TV in a closet. But IMO the real extremes would be more like getting rid of all TVs in the house (or covering the TV with a map like the infamous JillR) and deleting your SM accounts. Taking a break for a specific time like a month doesn't strike me as extreme. 

For sure extreme is certainly subjective, but why not just reduce the time spent watching TV and posting/reading SM?

Like no kissing until the wedding day. They're taught that everything is a slippery slope. Kissing leads to sex, one hour of TV leads to too much TV and a peek here and there on SM leads to checking your phone every minute.

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BigBingerBro

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I always take the "I'm going off social media for XX amount of time" as a cry for attention.  Usually people that do that are only looking for people to beg them not to do it, which gives them validation and attention.   Joy may be wondering how long her "fame" is going to last and testing the waters to se if people beg her to keep posting or could care less.  Or maybe not, shug, who knows.

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Minivanessa

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12 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

For sure extreme is certainly subjective, but why not just reduce the time spent watching TV and posting/reading SM?

Like no kissing until the wedding day. They're taught that everything is a slippery slope. Kissing leads to sex, one hour of TV leads to too much TV and a peek here and there on SM leads to checking your phone every minute.

That's an interesting comparison, but I think throwing out the TV and closing SM accounts are much more like "no kissing before the wedding" than just taking a break. Plenty of mainstream mental health professionals have publicly discussed the benefits of a break from social media which is why it doesn't strike me as an all-in fundie thing at all. Not that I think Joy would have consulted a mental health professional, lol. But she probably saw the concept somewhere and liked it.

As @BigBingerBro said, Joy's announcement might be more attention grab than sincere attempt to manage her social media life. 

Whatever her reasoning, I expect that Joy isn't overthinking her SM break. And, I am.  🤣

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quarks

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It might just be the people I'm following on Twitter, but I see plenty of people announcing that they're taking a break from social media for a couple of weeks to a couple of months for various reasons. Bigbingerbro is correct that this is often just a cry for attention, but I've also seen people announce that they'll be taking breaks in order to focus on some creative project or care for a relative or deal with chemo or whatever. So this seems normal to me.

In Joy's specific case, my impression is that she doesn't really enjoy being on social media all that much. A break might allow her to figure out if the money she gets from occasionally shilling stuff is worth the aggravation. 

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GeeGolly

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1 hour ago, quarks said:

It might just be the people I'm following on Twitter, but I see plenty of people announcing that they're taking a break from social media for a couple of weeks to a couple of months for various reasons. Bigbingerbro is correct that this is often just a cry for attention, but I've also seen people announce that they'll be taking breaks in order to focus on some creative project or care for a relative or deal with chemo or whatever. So this seems normal to me.

In Joy's specific case, my impression is that she doesn't really enjoy being on social media all that much. A break might allow her to figure out if the money she gets from occasionally shilling stuff is worth the aggravation. 

This is what I don't get. How much time are they spending on SM that they can't do both?

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Cinnabon

Cinnabon

2 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I always take the "I'm going off social media for XX amount of time" as a cry for attention.  Usually people that do that are only looking for people to beg them not to do it, which gives them validation and attention.   Joy may be wondering how long her "fame" is going to last and testing the waters to se if people beg her to keep posting or could care less.  Or maybe not, shug, who knows.

EXACTLY. I’ve been off FB for 3 months for personal reasons, but guess what I didn’t do? Announce it on FB that I was going to take a break. I just did it quietly.

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Minivanessa

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15 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

This is what I don't get. How much time are they spending on SM that they can't do both?

I get it, because I have experienced times when I just could. not. leave. my phone. alone. (Or, if I was on a computer, Facebook.) Even for a few minutes. I was constantly checking, to see if I had reactions to my posts or comments, or who had posted something in the five minutes since last I looked. There are lots of articles about that kind of technology addiction. I'm not sure how much time in total I spent on social media/the internet during that time, but it was a constant distraction. 

I took some steps that made sense to me. I disabled almost all the notifications on my phone and deleted a couple of apps from it. I consciously refused to go onto Facebook for days at a time on my non-phone devices. I'm back on FB now and watching out for the urge to check in all day long, because it happens. I scrubbed my Twitter account of all tweets and likes and will do it again pretty soon to keep a clean slate. I also scrubbed almost everything off my FB page except relatively recent posts and photos and intend to do that on the regular going forward.

And no I didn't make a big announcement about backing off from SM. But then, I don't have 1.1 million followers on IG like Joy does. If she just went silent, I'm sure the trolls and other nasties would come out in force with all kinds of speculation. 

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Cinnabon

Cinnabon

Just now, Jeeves said:

I get it, because I have experienced times when I just could. not. leave. my phone. alone. (Or, if I was on a computer, Facebook.) Even for a few minutes. I was constantly checking, to see if I had reactions to my posts or comments, or who had posted something in the five minutes since last I looked. There are lots of articles about that kind of technology addiction. I'm not sure how much time in total I spent on social media/the internet during that time, but it was a constant distraction. 

I took some steps that made sense to me. I disabled almost all the notifications on my phone and deleted a couple of apps from it. I consciously refused to go onto Facebook for days at a time on my non-phone devices. I'm back on FB now and watching out for the urge to check in all day long, because it happens. I scrubbed my Twitter account of all tweets and likes and will do it again pretty soon to keep a clean slate. I also scrubbed almost everything off my FB page except relatively recent posts and photos and intend to do that on the regular going forward.

And no I didn't make a big announcement about backing off from SM. But then, I don't have 1.1 million followers on IG like Joy does. If she just went silent, I'm sure the trolls and other nasties would come out in force with all kinds of speculation. And, in the immortal words of Sweet Brown, Ain't Nobody Got Time for That. An oldie but a goodie.

 

Most of Joy’s followers are quite literally complete strangers. Her actual friends and family wouldn’t be wondering about her. 

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Minivanessa

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1 minute ago, Cinnabon said:

Most of Joy’s followers are quite literally complete strangers. Her actual friends and family wouldn’t be wondering about her. 

Of course they are. Who knows a million people personally? But why not make a simple sensible statement to head off speculation? Her life and times are constantly under discussion on the internet - including this forum - and although she hasn't been on TV for awhile and may not be again, she's still a public figure. 

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Cinnabon

Cinnabon

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21 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

Of course they are. Who knows a million people personally? But why not make a simple sensible statement to head off speculation? Her life and times are constantly under discussion on the internet - including this forum - and although she hasn't been on TV for awhile and may not be again, she's still a public figure. 

After a few weeks of not being on SM, most people will realize that she is ok and just living her life (because news gets around despite her absence on SM). I find that most who make announcements about leaving SM are looking for attention and most return quickly. I do have one friend who takes every other month off SM and it works for him. But YMMV.

ETA - look at Josiah and Lauren. They’ve been off SM for a long time now, and speculation has mostly died down. I think most assume they are fine and simply living more private lives. In Joy’s case, she is borderline illiterate and I wish she would spend her time off SM educating herself, because otherwise her “homeschooling “ will be useless. But I know she won’t. 😢

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