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The Muslim Registry

Under President George W. Bush, the registry was reintroduced after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and expanded to include those arriving from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan and Syria. By 2003, the list had broadened to 25 countries ‒ mostly with majority Muslim populations, and mainly in Africa and the Middle East.

The registry has not been in use since 2011, however, having been replaced by automated systems that collect and store biometric data such as fingerprints from nearly all people entering the country.

Pressure on the Obama administration also came from civil rights groups and a joint letter from 50 Democratic members of the House of Representatives on December 1, which called for the registry to be rescinded, arguing that “no known terrorism convictions have resulted from the program,” and that it was “an affront to our core American values of pluralism and equal justice under law.” Silicon Valley has also pushed back against Trump’s threat to revamp the program, the New York Times reported. Leaders at tech companies such as Google, Facebook and IBM were forced to state publicly that they would not assist the new administration in developing programs after thousands of engineers said they stood in solidarity with Muslim Americans and would not use their skills for the “new administration’s proposed data-collection policies.” 

Neema Hakim, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement, according to the New York Times, "the program was “not only obsolete” and “outdated” but diverted personnel and resources from other areas that were seen as more effective. The Obama administration is dismantling the so-called Muslim registry that logged visitors from countries with active terrorist groups. President-elect Donald Trump has vowed to create a similar list. Pressure on the Obama administration also came from civil rights groups and a joint letter from 50 Democratic members of the House of Representatives on December 1, which called for the registry to be rescinded, arguing that “no known terrorism convictions have resulted from the program,” and that it was “an affront to our core American values of pluralism and equal justice under law.”

President Obama has made it harder for President-elect Donald Trump to build his Muslim registry. Instead of reanimating a Bush-era registration program, Trump will have to go back to square one.

Here's an excerpt of the letter Michael Moore wrote to Donald Trump;

"I’m asking everyone who reads this letter to go here and sign the following statement: “WE ARE ALL MUSLIM” — and then post a photo of yourself holding a homemade sign saying “WE ARE ALL MUSLIM” on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram using the hashtag #WeAreAllMuslim. I will post all the photos on my site and send them to you, Mr. Trump. Feel free to join us.

http://michaelmoore.com/WeAreAllMuslim/

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7 hours ago, stewedsquash said:

The alt left has been around long before Hillary tried to label all Trump supports as alt right. When that didn't work she went with deplorables. I am an avid reader of all points of views and have found that in all parties there are different groups within each group. Some self labeled some are labeled by others. But enough on alt left labels, I have to go check Twitchy...

 
 

This shows me that a lot of Trump supporters truly don't care about facts. I've seen stuff like this from a lot of Trump supporters (remember, I didn't say ALL. I said a lot. Those don't mean the same thing even though there is an "a" and "l" in both.) Can you provide proof that Hillary said all Trump supporters are the alt right? No, because she never said that. She said that the alt right supported Trump and that's accurate. Also, you can watch Hillary's speech or read the transcripts. You will never find that she said all Trump supporters were deplorable. She said half. Half and all FACTUALLY don't mean the same thing. The alt left is not a thing. It's not going to catch on no matter how many links are found.

 

31 minutes ago, LisainCali said:

As you are all up on your hind legs crying about his bankruptcies, I only have one question.  Did you invest?  If not, what do you care?  It affects the investors.  They are waaaay more sophisticated in investing than I will ever be.  Those investors know what they are getting into and it does not effect any of us. 

 

Up on our hind legs? What does that even mean? It doesn't matter if people didn't specifically invest in Trump's many, many failed businesses. You and other people keep saying that he's a good businessman. His many bankruptcies are an example of how that is not true. Some businessman have bankruptcies, but having six is not a confidence booster. I certainly don't want that idiot running our country like he's run his businesses.

 

36 minutes ago, LisainCali said:

 I hope to be able to live on SS, plus my savings.  

Good luck with that if Trump and his crony Paul Ryan gut medicare and social security.

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As you are all up on your hind legs crying about his bankruptcies, I only have one question.  Did you invest?  If not, what do you care?  It affects the investors.  They are waaaay more sophisticated in investing than I will ever be.  Those investors know what they are getting into and it does not effect any of us. 

 

 Orange Numpty ran for President of the UNITED STATES on his business acumen and financial success and prowess.

HE FAILED. Puhleeze.

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The problem with appointing super-rich people to the cabinet is that I would guess that most of his selection got to be super rich by making money for themselves. That is, they are habituated to making money for themselves rather than other people. Does anybody think that that is going to change if they become part of the government?  Politicians, cabinet members etc are supposed to be public servants. They're supposed to server the public. What's that phrase, 'government of the people, by the people, for the people '

 

Trump and his ilk are in government for themselves. They don't care about the people they're supposed to be serving. 

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1 minute ago, Ceindreadh said:

The problem with appointing super-rich people to the cabinet is that I would guess that most of his selection got to be super rich by making money for themselves. That is, they are habituated to making money for themselves rather than other people. Does anybody think that that is going to change if they become part of the government?  Politicians, cabinet members etc are supposed to be public servants. They're supposed to server the public. What's that phrase, 'government of the people, by the people, for the people '

 

Trump and his ilk are in government for themselves. They don't care about the people they're supposed to be serving. 

And/or inheriting. 

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1 hour ago, SoSueMe said:

Alt-white, perfect, how apt.

I will be using this if you don't mind.

 

Feel free, SoSueMe ; )

Trump is such a shit businessman -- here's just one typical Trump tale:

"Donald Trump's Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, N.J., nearly flushed Forest Jenkins' company Triad Building Services down the toilet.

In 1988 and 1989, Jenkins, a contractor, spent months installing the stall walls in the bathrooms of the mega-casino. The job was supposed to pay $231,000.

The check for the work, though, never showed up. Eventually Jenkins, whose business did manage to survive the episode, was paid $70,000, or 30 cents on the dollar in the restructuring that followed. The episode still upsets Jenkin's daughter, Beth Rosser. “I grit my teeth every time I see him on television talking about what a wonderful businessman he is,” Rosser said of Donald Trump in a CNN interview in September. “He stepped on a lot of people.”

But Trump may not have only "stepped on" Jenkins and others. It now appears that Trump may have used those unpaid bills to contractors and other small businesses—their losses—to give his bank account a second lift, using a tax maneuver many are calling essentially a "double dip."

http://fortune.com/2016/10/08/donald-trump-taxes-contractors/

God forbid he bring his thieving mindset to the nation as a whole.

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Trump's business model seems to be:  Get massive debt from whoever is willing to lend it.  Get bored or quit if not returning money fast enough.  Take tax breaks on losses, making bankruptcy profitable to him, and who cares about the contractors and their workers who won't get paid? 

TERRIBLE, and impossible plan for running a country.   And he can't just fire or not pay anyone.

I have not yet retired, but am close enough to also hope that SS and Medicare will remain for my age group.  I am much more concerned with the damage done to our relationship with our world allies in four years than SS.  Or gutting all the civil rights progress of the last 70 years.

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On 12/22/2016 at 3:36 PM, MulletorHater said:

You know, when I read that this was a celebration of "freedom and democracy," I honestly thought you were referring to the Million Woman March.  Because nothing says "freedom and democracy" like (a) demonizing the media for telling the truth; (b) shutting down dissent within one's own party and elsewhere; (c) scapegoating those "other" people; (d) hate crimes, which Coral Caligula's campaign rhetoric all but encouraged and for which he has yet to take responsibility; (e) threatening to jail one's political opponent; (f) aligning one's self with known dictators while dissing American intelligence agencies; (g) creating a Muslim registry; (h) denying the press access; (i) holding Nuremberg rallies masquerading as "victory tours"; (j) setting up what could easily become a junta of disaffected generals; (k) elevating one's trifling family members with positions of power; (l) having one's transition team distribute questionnaires demanding to know people's position on climate change; and (m) filling the swamp with people who want to destroy everything they can get their greedy, grubby, grasping paws on.

And, those are just the highlights!

not to mention now they want info on women's issues programshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/12/22/trump-team-asked-state-department-for-info-on-womens-issues-programs-stoking-fears-of-another-witch-hunt/?utm_term=.9bf1a016b9db

That'll end well I'm sure.

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I don't get the "special snowflake" as applied to Trump opposers.  That term is used in reference to people who think they deserve special privilege because they've been indulged their whole life.  To me it seems like most of the people who oppose Trump do so because they are appalled and offended on behalf of groups they themselves don't belong to. 

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2 hours ago, LisainCali said:

Trump is in for 4 years whether or not anyone likes it.

Likelier he's impeached within eighteen months (if he lasts that long). He's corrupt to the bone, and won't be able to resist molesting girls, stealing $$, and selling out America to his fuck buddy Putin.  (And then suddenly -- as with Nixon -- nobody will ever admit they voted for him.)

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Nobody lost except the 'little people', the workers, the contractors, the steel men, the providers of machinery, etc. They lost. Donald didn't lose, he won. The bank didn't lose either. Do I have a problem with the way his bankruptcies were structured to help him become richer at the expense of taxpayers? Absolutely I do.

Grifter in chief.

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38 minutes ago, Duke Silver said:

Of course! No more need for the pretense that he cares about products "Made in America"!

Are the hats still $25, though? Because the given reason for them costing that much was that it's so expensive to make things in the US.  (I'm going out on a limb and guessing they're at least as much now, even though made in China.)

Once a con man, always a con man....

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This probably isn't a big surprise, but one of Trump's "nominees" has likely committed insider trading - already.

From Change.org:

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Thank you to everyone that signed the petition to enforce the STOCK Act on Trump, his kids, and staff. Today we learned that HHS Secretary nominee Tom Price was caught buying and selling medical stocks while serving in a congressional capacity to impact national healthcare. These type of egregious actions are grounds for criminal prosecution. Please continue to share this petition on your social networks.

Here is the link to the petition and it also includes some related petitions: https://www.change.org/p/stop-trump-s-insider-trading-enforce-the-stock-act/u/18868115?utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_campaign=petition_update

If you choose to sign the petition, you can remain anonymous. Change.org is asking that people share the petition on the "Stock Act" regarding Trump and "friends" on other social media sites.

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19 minutes ago, Rapunzel said:

From Change.org:

Here is the link to the petition and it also includes some related petitions: https://www.change.org/p/stop-trump-s-insider-trading-enforce-the-stock-act/u/18868115?utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_campaign=petition_update

If you choose to sign the petition, you can remain anonymous. Change.org is asking that people share the petition on the "Stock Act" regarding Trump and "friends" on other social media sites.

Tony Soprano's crew had more ethics than these piss-slugs being offered up to serve in Trump's "administration".

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Donald Trump Has A Theory On Nukes. His Team Has Several Others.

The election is over.  Yet he still says   shit that has to be interpreted. 

Trump tweets :

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The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes

10:50 AM - 22 Dec 2016

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Later on Thursday, Trump’s top spokesman Jason Miller put out the first comment in reaction to the tweet.

President-elect Trump was referring to the threat of nuclear proliferation and the critical need to prevent it — particularly to and among terrorist organizations and unstable and rogue regimes. He has also emphasized the need to improve and modernize our deterrent capability as a vital way to pursue peace through strength.

 

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On Thursday night, Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show.

MADDOW:  Honestly, though, the American position on nuclear weapons worldwide for a very long time now, not just as a partisan matter but over multiple presidents, has been that we are trying to lead the way in reducing the number of nuclear weapons in the world.  He’s saying we’re going to expand our nuclear capability.  

CONWAY:  He’s not necessarily saying that.  

MADDOW:  He did. He did literally say we need to expand our nuclear capability.

CONWAY:  What he’s saying is we need to expand our nuclear capability, really our nuclear readiness or our capability to be ready for those who also have nuclear weapons.  

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12 hours ago, NewDigs said:

Good grief.

Now I'm thinking I should subscribe to Teen Vogue.

They're doing a heckuva job! Dare I say better than "normal" MSM. That makes me both happy and sad.

To prove how just batshit insane 2016 has been, there's the possibility that the next Woodward and Bernstein are working for freaking Teen Vogue.

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11 minutes ago, NewDigs said:

As long as they're working some somewhere.

That's a good point.  I guess you can paraphrase Ratatouille, "Not everybody can be a great reporter, but a great reporter can come from anywhere."  It's just weird that right now we're looking at Teen Vogue over Washington Post and New York Times, as a place that remembers what reporters are supposed to do, and they remember they're the 4th estate.

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16 hours ago, NewDigs said:

'The outlet asked Paladino, “What would you most like to happen in 2017?”

His response: “Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Herford. He dies before trial and is buried in a cow pasture next to [senior White House adviser] Valerie Jarrett, who died weeks prior, after being convicted of sedition and treason, when a Jihady cell mate mistook her being a nice person and decapitated her."

Asked "What would you like to see go in 2017?" Paladino attacked the first lady in sexual and racist terms:

“Michelle Obama. I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortable in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”

Paladino on Friday verified to The Buffalo News that his comments were real, attacking the newspaper for inquiring about them.

“Of course I did,” he said when asked if he had uttered the remarks. "Tell them all to go f--- themselves.”'

Wow.

Frightening that he considers it only politically incorrect. 

That's not even how mad cow disease works. What a fucking moron. 

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13 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

What some people call the dole or sucking at a teat is part of the social contract. We strive not to let people starve, freeze to death, or die of preventable diseases. Granted, America hasn't been smashingly successful at these things lately, but they are worthwhile goals. I'd rather see my tax dollars go to someone's food stamps than be siphoned up by a billionaire in the form of unnecessary tax cuts. 

I'll complain about some rich people. Damn right I will. No one becomes rich and successful solely by tugging on their own bootstraps. Orange sure as hell never earned a damn thing. If you're rich in this country, you drove to work on taxpayer funded roads, you might have attended public school, and a lot of the infrastructure you used is courtesy of other people's labor and coin. Municipalities, including mine, might even shower you with tax incentives, changes to zoning ordinances, and improvements to nearby roads. That's not to say the successful businessperson doesn't deserve credit; they do. But this country loves the ridiculous myth of the self-made tycoon who singlehandedly climbed the money mountain and is a hero and example to us all.

A person who has a lot of money...has a lot of money. The amount of cabbage in their bank account really tells you nothing about that person's worth. They could be rich as sin and a total moral failure. They could also be a wonderful philanthropist. The existence of vast sums of cash doesn't translate into superior intellect, virtue, work ethic, or leadership skills. Orange's inherited fortune is meaningless as an indicator of how he'll lead. His words and behavior are what matter and they tell an ugly tale that no amount of cash can pretty up.

This should go viral.

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5 hours ago, Jediknight said:

To prove how just batshit insane 2016 has been, there's the possibility that the next Woodward and Bernstein are working for freaking Teen Vogue.

Let's just be grateful, because that's exactly who needs to be informed in order to stop future madness. The older generation (and yes, I'm 49 and pretty horrified at what my generation has wrought here) has already proved we can be counted on to screw the pooch when it matters. It's the kids who are going to save us all. 

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— particularly to and among terrorist organizations and unstable and rogue regimes.

Dear lord. I just realized we're about to become an unstable and rogue regime. I really feel like this will be the last normal holiday for some time.

 

1 hour ago, BBDi said:

It will look funny if Apricot Adolf winds up going after Teen Vogue. Imagine PEOTUS launching a tweet storm against a teen magazine. 

Btw, anybody see his twitter rants from a few years again ago about Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson? Pure comedy gold. 

 

First of all, Apricot Adolf is comedy gold. Secondly, please tell me you have a link to his Stewart/Pattinson rants.

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Remember Donald Trump's Freakish Obsession With Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart?

Jezuz. He's fucking insane and an emotional adolescent. Just 4 years ago, tweet after tweet about a couple of twenty something movie stars. 

A man in is 60's.

There you go red America. That's what you voted for. Hail to the 'Tween !

Moreover, the press never unearthed and discussed this, among years of on-the-record crap on him. 

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3 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

I sincerely doubt China, which plans it's economic policy in like 5 year chunks minimum, is taking cues from the Donald. 

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8 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

Gateway Pundit is well-known to be radical right and full of lies and inaccuracies. I wouldn't even bother following links to them if you want actual facts. 

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Fishcakes, thank you. It was everything I dreamed it would be. My favorite part is declaring he doesn't have time to comment on Stewart/Pattinson and then he continues to spew his orange insanity about it. Perhaps he thought Pattinson was really a vampire and wanted a piece of the immortality action. 

I hear people talking about vampires. I love vampires. Vampires that sparkle. Some vampires shrivel in the sun. Sad! I prefer vampires that can meet you for brunch. I let a vampire bite me. He was tall and handsome and he rides horses without wearing a shirt. Crooked Hillary wanted to raise taxes to pay Mexicans to whittle wooden stakes and crucifixes! Such a nasty woman. Vampires will make America great again. Believe me. And white. Really pale and white. I won the popular vote if you subtract the votes of werewolves. The corrupt media won't report that! Losers.

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13 hours ago, backgroundnoise said:

I don't get the "special snowflake" as applied to Trump opposers.  That term is used in reference to people who think they deserve special privilege because they've been indulged their whole life.  To me it seems like most of the people who oppose Trump do so because they are appalled and offended on behalf of groups they themselves don't belong to. 

I think it's especially rich when you consider the Trump crowd's reaction to something like a football player taking a knee during the Anthem.  They were triggered and melting down all the hell over the place.  I asked more than one if they needed a safe space.  

4 hours ago, NewDigs said:

As long as they're working somewhere.

As long as they exist.  God knows we need them.  

27 minutes ago, Pixel said:

Gateway Pundit is well-known to be radical right and full of lies and inaccuracies. I wouldn't even bother following links to them if you want actual facts. 

Whenever my brother texts me links from various fake news sites, I always respond with something like "yeah, I'm not clicking on that, I refuse to contribute to Breitbart's revenue for shilling lies."  

Happy holidays, everyone!  And my gift to you - go add the "De-Trumpify" extension if you're on Chrome.  The names it has come up with for him so far are amazing.  I'm partial to "President-Elect Tiny Gloves," "Deflated Football," and "Brightly Burning Trash Fire," but they're all so good.  Combined with the extension that replaces pictures of him with pictures of kittens, it makes reading about him slightly less tedious.  

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1 hour ago, stewedsquash said:

Reichshshshshshshshshshshsh can be the boyfriend of anyone who wants him, I will keep my cutie Tucker, as long as he does his adorable puppy head tilt when he lets a guest do the work of melting down on their own:

Having now seen a couple of TC interviews, it seems that by "melting down" you mean "trying patiently to discuss the important issue they've ostensibly been brought on to discuss while TC calls them stupidheads."

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21 hours ago, NewDigs said:

'The outlet asked Paladino, “What would you most like to happen in 2017?”

His response: “Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Herford. He dies before trial and is buried in a cow pasture next to [senior White House adviser] Valerie Jarrett, who died weeks prior, after being convicted of sedition and treason, when a Jihady cell mate mistook her being a nice person and decapitated her."

Asked "What would you like to see go in 2017?" Paladino attacked the first lady in sexual and racist terms:

“Michelle Obama. I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortable in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”

Paladino on Friday verified to The Buffalo News that his comments were real, attacking the newspaper for inquiring about them.

“Of course I did,” he said when asked if he had uttered the remarks. "Tell them all to go f--- themselves.”'

Wow.

Frightening that he considers it only politically incorrect. 

He should be locked up before he takes it upon himself to kill someone he considers less than human. This is hate speech. It's disgusting. Saying it is bad enough, but then when given the opportunity, he doubled down. 

Is he being offered a position in the next administration? He should not be representing people if he cannot think of people as people.

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Anybody else think he's put on a lot of weight since the election? Or maybe he was just better at hiding his huge gut before. (Fat-shaming is ok now, right? Post-PC world with no safe snowflake spaces blahblahblah?)

 

I'm actually not trying to fat-shame but yes, he does look like he's put on weight.  Plus, whatever puffy thing he always has going on around his eyes isn't exactly the indicator of robust health either.   Among the eight thousand other things that he apparently didn't consider before running for the presidency, such as what the job actually entails, a small part of me takes a bit of satisfaction in knowing that his vanity is likely to take a giant hit, as it is not a position that tends to do anything other than age the hell out of people doing it.   

It's not much, but at least we'll have a tiny bit of revenge on that vainglorious turd in watching the complete destruction of his exterior.  Pity that it will come at the expense of his destruction of our actual country.  

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4 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

A doctor on TV pronounced him the healthiest person to ever be running for president in the history of the world. He is the most healthy. Everyone says so.

Dr.OZ or Dr. Phi?  The only TV doctor I trust, is Dr. G. medical examiner. 
I do wonder if he might have some organic brain disease, because his actions, and thought processes, seem very strange.
 

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