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  1. I don't want to agree with Thomas about anything, ever, but... I do agree that Hope does not love him like he loves her. And she knows she doesn't. She loves him to some degree, but a lot of what she loves is that he's so into her. She loves that he's Douglas's father. She loves the sex. But, she isn't as deeply in love with him as he wants her to be. And, even though she's fighting right now to save the relationship, she's not ready to put any kind of timeline on being ready to marry him (which is the one thing that would reel him back in). I don't blame her on that, at all, but this is why she shouldn't have ever gone there with him in the first place. No matter how "all better" everyone thinks he is, he's been obsessed with her from the moment he and Douglas came back to L.A. The odds of ever being able to have a healthy, balanced relationship are pretty non-existent when that's the starting point. The best thing Hope can do for herself and Thomas is to let him go and spend some time being single and focusing on her kids. Which is not, of course, to say that she should just let him take Douglas out of the country right this second out of anger. She should be firm in saying "you can go now, and we'll discuss a schedule for Douglas to travel back and forth. He has school, he has friends, he has activities, he has a sister he loves. You can't just completely uproot our son because you're pissed at me."
  2. I swear, if AN doesn't get a lead actress nomination this year... I don't think Thomas should get to just take Douglas with him, and that's that. They need to work out a custody arrangement. Hope is his mother and, last we knew, had primary physical custody. I understand Hope being mad at Steffy for interfering in her relationship with Thomas, but she should be even more furious with both Steffy and Thomas for thinking that Thomas can just up and take her son away from her for good. As much as Steffy may not like it, Hope is Douglas's mother, period. And Thomas is the one who made that choice. He can't unring that bell now.
  3. Ridge is such a tool. "you just attacked my daughter." You mean like your daughter attacked her? And like you're attacking her now? Fuck right off. And "I know he loves you, because he says it every five minutes. It's all he ever talks about." Um, is that not cause for concern, given his past, Ridge? Ridge and the Taytots are acting like Hope and Thomas have been together three or four years, and she's still refusing to get engaged. It has been nine months since they kissed in Rome. And, again, I ask, is her divorce even final yet? I'm cracking up at how Ridge is all over defending Steffy when Hope airs her legitimate gripes about how she's interfering in her relationship. But then when Steffy gets there and pulls her bitch shit with Brooke, suddenly, Ridge is trying to rein her in. And when Brooke says the exact same thing Hope said, that Steffy is turning this into a Forresters vs. Logans thing, he looks at Steffy like "is that true?" Thomas is a tool. He promised Hope that he wouldn't pressure her about getting engaged, spent the next three months pressuring her anyway, and now he's having a tantrum over her not just giving in to the pressure. If he actually tries to take Douglas out of the country to get back at her, I hope she goes scorched earth on his ass for reverting right back to using Douglas to manipulate her, and that it ends up blowing this chance he had to be with her. Because fuck this guy. He had what he wanted. They were together. She was becoming more and more committed to him as the months went on. She was wearing his damn ring around her neck as requested. And he couldn't be fucking patient. So, I hope he loses her completely.
  4. I was thinking the same thing during yesterday's show, when she kept telling him how angry he was and how he should go work that anger out.
  5. Ridge, Thomas, and Steffy have to be some of the most entitled people in the world. It doesn't matter at all what Hope wants or how Hope feels? The relationship has to move exactly according to Thomas's timetable and wishes, or else she's leading him on? That's not how relationships work. And, again, they've been together about 5 minutes, and he's only been (allegedly) non-psycho for about 10 minutes. Also, is Hope's divorce even final yet? And what is Steffy even talking about with Hope pushing Thomas away repeatedly? She tried to end things one time, and then reconsidered it. Ever since then, she's been very consistent. Just because Thomas hasn't wanted to hear what Hope has been saying, doesn't mean she hasn't been saying it. I could almost, almost, cut Steffy some slack if, when she was talking about him being Hope's rebound, she would have related it to her own experience as Liam's rebound, and talked about how now that she's found Finn and understands what it is to be her husband's first and only choice, she had the strength to turn down Liam's repeated attempts to make her his rebound again. And then say that she wants that for Thomas, too, for both of them to be happily out of Liam and Hope's mess. Could you imagine if when Finn and Steffy's marriage starts becoming more troubled, Hope advised Finn to take Hayes and get out of town for a while? Steffy would kill her. Speaking of Finn, Steffy, don't you have your own relationship to tend to? Your brother having a sad because his girlfriend has maintained her stance on waiting a while before discussing marriage seems like a lesser issue than your husband having visions of you stabbing his birth mother every time you guys try to get intimate.
  6. Checking out the spoilers apparently the Forrester men are going with full on delusional next week. Blindsided? How is Hope sticking to the exact same thing she's said every single time you've brought up getting married blindsiding you? You blindsided her by springing another proposal on her before she told you she was ready for it, and then storming out in anger when she gave you the same answer she's been giving you. Dude, you're the one who convinced your son to do this shit, when Hope has been clear that she's not ready yet. You want answers from someone? Ask yourself why you keep pushing this relationship. (Spoiler alert, it's probably because you figure if he has Hope locked down, your son won't go all psycho, and you can shove all responsibility for his mental well being onto her shoulders). I mean... Zende, what are you doing, man? She's told you how many times that she loves RJ and doesn't see you that way? Leave her alone already.
  7. As will I (as much as I hate to take Steffy's side in anything).
  8. I do not know why Hope is just standing there indulging Steffy for this long. Just tell her it's between you and Thomas and walk out of the room, Hope. Instead, we were treated to the two of them basically repeating the same lines over and over again. And, Steffy, if you're worried that Hope not being ready to marry your psycho brother five minutes after she divorced someone else is going to wreck him, then you, deep down, know that he isn't "a different man now," no matter how much you and your parents insist he is. If he wasn't still an obsessive psycho about Hope, he wouldn't be in danger of going off the rails over this. Even if all the shit Thomas has done in the not remotely distant past wasn't an issue, if Hope was one of my friends, I'd be concerned about her and talking to her about the red flags in their relationship. There's the love bombing. There's the "nobody will love you like I do." There's him ignoring her boundaries. There's him proposing like 10 minutes after they started hooking up. There's him repeatedly pushing the engagement despite agreeing to give her time. There's the angry way he reacted to not getting what he wanted. If Brad Bell was trying to write an abusive relationship, he couldn't have hit the warning signs any more clearly.
  9. That's some revisionist history by Thomas there. "She could have rejected me outright and not taken the ring, but she's been wearing it around her neck." Um, yeah, because you pushed that on her. You insisted she wear it around her neck until she was ready. And I was just cracking up at Steffy going on and on to Thomas about how awful Hope has been to him. Yeah, let's rewind the tape on that one, shall we? Yeah, sure, Thomas took the driver's seat on the lie that Hope's daughter was dead. Sure, he abused and manipulated their son on more than one occasion. Sure, he was going to drug her to rape her. Sure, he was going to kidnap her when he realized that the truth about Beth was coming out. Sure, he framed her mother for a CPS call about their son and then tried to force their son to support that lie. But what is all of that (and more I'm leaving out) in the face of Hope being direct, honest, and consistent about the fact that she is not ready to commit to a new marriage five minutes after divorcing Liam? What a fucking monster she is. You all know I've never been into Thope, but seriously, Hope, look at him acting like a petulant child whose parents told him they aren't going to McDonalds today, but maybe later in the week. The very first time something in this relationship didn't go his way, he stormed out angry and sat there and listened to his sister reading you for filth. We all know Thomas isn't going to take Steffy's advice and fully end things, but Hope should absolutely tell him that they need to take a break because he has shown zero respect for her clearly stated boundaries and for the way he immediately went with anger over her telling him the same thing she's been telling him over and over - that she needs some time before she's ready to consider getting engaged. If Thomas wants to be mad at someone, he can either look in the mirror, or he can look to his father who gave him the advice to go big that led to him thinking he should propose again.
  10. I'm assuming Finn. That has to be the reason for the scenes of him being so concerned about her safety around Thomas.
  11. For the love of God, Luna, just buy yourself a 23andMe kit already. And I hope that, if Poppy does turn around and tell Bill, "well, actually, it was you," that he is smart enough to get a DNA test instead of letting his paternal infatuation with Luna override his common sense. How Steffy and Liam can sit there with straight faces, knowing how easily Hope forgave them for banging and WTD, The Sequel, and act like Hope kissing Thomas was the worst most unforgiveable, marriage killing thing to have ever happened to the Lope marriage... Fucking sanctimonious hypocrites. Oh, look, Thomas stormed out in anger when he didn't get his way. And his talk with Steffy was borderline incel, a la, "I put in the time and work, she owes me what I want." Dude, Hope told you, over and over and over, not to pressure her on the engagement issue, and that she would let you know when she was ready. Your disappointment is all on you, because you decided that she has to be ready now, and she didn't go along with that plan. You still don't see and value her as her own independent woman, you see her as an object you want to possess, and since you've gone x days without a psycho episode, she should just fall in line with the plan. She took a big step by telling him she loves him, and instead of realizing that she was taking a step forward with him, he just focused on how mad he is that it wasn't the big leap he's demanding. And, Steffy? If you want your psycho brother to be in a good mental space, maybe don't keep harping on how you think Hope has done him wrong. Maybe instead, you should see how upset he is over being denied and suggest he speak with his therapist (and, dear God, not your mother). Hope is a fool if she puts that ring back around her neck. Clearly he is getting the wrong message from that, so she needs to tell him to take it back completely.
  12. I'm so squeamish that we're going to get Finn not remembering they hooked up because he was drunk or he took some of Poppy's "mints." The Luna/Zende "misunderstanding night" was bad enough, but a "misunderstanding night" where a college kid fathered a child with his aunt and doesn't even remember they hooked up? You'd think after decades of Stephanie's bullshit, both Ridge and Brooke would be at least a little hesitant to dive so deep into their kids' love lives. But, nope, they're just going to go ahead and take up that mantle. And, I completely agree on the "no pressure" bullshit. All he's done is pressure her in various ways since the moment she asked him to give her time and not pressure her. And this time, he was applying even more pressure. I really did not like the way he's just telling her "it's time." I believe she told him, multiple times, that she would tell him when she feels like it's time. Not to make this too much about my personal anecdote, but I dated a guy in college who had a similar "I know what's best because I love you so much" kind of bullshit about him. Once I recognized what a pattern it was, I was out of there. Hope needs to stick to her guns, even if she's wavering a little, because this is such disrespect for a very reasonable boundary. Give the ring back and tell him that she will tell him if she's ever ready for that, but she refuses to wear the ring around her neck any longer, because he will not stop pressuring her. And, yeah, I'll never be OK with him having any kind of pseudo parental role in Beth's life. Nope. Not OK. Shallow time: that dress is ugly. It's a bad color for Hope. It technically fits, but in the least flattering way possible. It somehow makes her chest look saggy, which is absurd. And then, the camera panned to the back of her head while No Pressure Thomas was, again, proposing, and I got a look at her hair. If I was remotely invested in this pairing, I'd be offended that they sent AN out on set with that hair for what could be some big pivotal romantic moment. But, since I hate watch this pairing, I just laughed for a good few minutes over how bad they managed to make poor AN look for the big romantic moment.
  13. Brad Bell does love a good pseudo incest storyline. At least this time, both people would have known the whole time that they weren't blood related? Yeah, murder would definitely be on the table. Hand me Steffy's stabbin' knife and tire iron. If Finn is Luna's dad, and Li has known all this time, then I'm going to have to take back some shit I've said about Li since Luna came to town. Although she still shouldn't have been so shitty directly to Luna. She didn't do anything wrong, and she'd be Li's granddaughter, despite how gross her origin story is. The only thing that is going to be hard to explain is why Finn never did the math. He's a friggin' doctor and he didn't figure out that the baby born approximately nine months after he hooked up with his aunt could be his? Did Finn take some of Aunt Poppy's famous mints before they hooked up?
  14. Why do I feel like this could refuel all of the "is Finn Luna's father" talk? Also, I usually see spoilers for the next week by Wednesday, and I can't find any for next week. Is something major going to happen that they don't want out ahead of time?
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