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While I generally find the Duggars' views on gender roles reprehensible, learning to sew is a great skill to have, whether as a hobby or a career.  Sure, these girls probably weren't offered a chance

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doodlebug

I dunno, it doesn't bother me like old dudes in banana hammocks.  But I am one of those weirdos who thinks pregnant women's bodies are amazing.  I also agree that Amy is looking darned good and I don'

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Ah, yes, Duggar Family Official. So deeply concerned about the unborn.  But when it comes to the born-but-then-dropped-after-six-months-like-a-hot-potato-people, they don't concern you a bit

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

8 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

He is the most ridiculous and useless spouse so far.  

I had such high hopes for Derick and Jeremy and their positive impacts on Jill and Jinger and yikes, I was wrong. With Ben I had little hope that he would bring much to the relationship almost from the beginning.

By the time Austin came along I didn't bother with any hope at all.

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Zella

Zella

2 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

What does Amy’s husband do?

I'm not sure. I know awhile ago he claimed he was opening a swanky lounge/bar in Springdale. And I laughed my ass off at the idea of it being in Springdale, but I can kind of be a bitch. 

@galaxychaser The business FB page claims they opened on the 8th of this month, but then the copy on the side makes it still sound in the works and their actual website also makes it sound like it isn't open yet. 

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Oldernowiser

Oldernowiser

I can be fair sometimes... I think this is really well done. Nothing about it says it’s a nursery for an actual human infant, but as vignette/staging goes, it’s beautiful. 

Now once he can start to crawl, get various childhood illnesses, and throw things, all that is going to be destroyed in days, but for now it’s pretty.

Although if that’s a changing table with that bucket of cotton branches on it...has she never changed a baby? They’re not known for lying there serenely and admiring the decor.

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BigBingerBro

BigBingerBro

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Back when Amy was engaged, I thought he had a graphics/screen painting business where he would cover things in graphics or designs.

I wonder if the swanky lounge will ever open?  Running a place like that where food and drink are served is a lot different from a clothing boutique.

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Zella

Zella

4 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

Back when Amy was engaged, I thought he had a graphics/screen painting business where he would cover things in graphics or designs.

I wonder if the swanky lounge will ever open?  Running a place like that where food and drink are served is a lot different from a clothing boutique.

Yes, I suspect he has bitten off way more than he can chew.

I also get the impression it might be stuck in some form of developmental hell.

In April, he posted something on the FB page claiming it was "coming in May"--and the FB page seems to have started this January--but May obviously has come and gone with no opening. Even the more recent posts promising an impending opening give no indication of how soon it is expected.

In June, there's a vague post about delays happening but the sign going up. 

And there's another post in July saying they had to change the name due to "unforeseen issues" another business. 

They posted a notice for hiring in November but with no indication when you'd be expected to start work. 

Springdale is also such a blue-collar town--it just seems like an odd business to open there. I feel like it would probably go over better in Fayetteville, which loves some hipster posturing, but if you want to avoid all the hipster U of A kids, then open it in Rogers or Bentonville. 

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Marshmallow Mollie

Marshmallow Mollie

20 minutes ago, Zella said:

Yes, I suspect he has bitten off way more than he can chew.

I also get the impression it might be stuck in some form of developmental hell.

In April, he posted something on the FB page claiming it was "coming in May"--and the FB page seems to have started this January--but May obviously has come and gone with no opening. Even the more recent posts promising an impending opening give no indication of how soon it is expected.

In June, there's a vague post about delays happening but the sign going up. 

And there's another post in July saying they had to change the name due to "unforeseen issues" another business. 

They posted a notice for hiring in November but with no indication when you'd be expected to start work. 

Springdale is also such a blue-collar town--it just seems like an odd business to open there. I feel like it would probably go over better in Fayetteville, which loves some hipster posturing, but if you want to avoid all the hipster U of A kids, then open it in Rogers or Bentonville. 

Interesting. I wonder with what money is he opening this business? Maybe he was going to do it, but then Grandma Mary died and they decided to live on inheritance money for now?

My husband had a restaurant & live music venue for a few years. Until his partner embezzled the money but I digress. Once the lease was signed, opening quickly was of utmost importance. Amy’s husband must be sitting on money, rather than worrying about investors or loans, since he waiting so long. It will probably never happen.

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Zella

Zella

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7 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

Interesting. I wonder with what money is he opening this business? Maybe he was going to do it, but then Grandma Mary died and they decided to live on inheritance money for now?

My husband had a restaurant & live music venue for a few years. Until his partner embezzled the money but I digress. Once the lease was signed, opening quickly was of utmost importance. Amy’s husband must be sitting on money, rather than worrying about investors or loans, since he waiting so long. It will probably never happen.

That's a good question about where the money is coming from. I've not seen any discussion of the financing. 

It's a bizarre opening strategy--I get announcing a little early to build some hype, but now it just seems almost inept with so many false starts. It's not really comparable but I started my own freelance business last year, and I waited until I was ready for business before rolling it out. I would have felt so goofy posting updates of every thing I did that backfired or had to be adjusted before I was even in business.

Designed my own logo! Actually my logo sucks--friend with a graphic design background designed a better one! Talked to my accountant--realized an idea I had was very bad! LOL

Those moments are part of being in business, but I don't think advertising them to your customers before you even open is a good idea. It just doesn't inspire confidence at all. 

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queenanne

queenanne

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On 12/29/2019 at 1:21 PM, Oldernowiser said:

Although if that’s a changing table with that bucket of cotton branches on it...has she never changed a baby? They’re not known for lying there serenely and admiring the decor.

I'm hoping and expecting it's not, considering the changing pad (?) appears to be folded up inside a black lacquer box far shorter than your average infant  😂 .  Either way I don't get it, unless it's a spare set of things and they have a separate table set up; or it's now considered healthier for some reason to change one's baby on the floor, because as I understand it, often you don't really have time to "set up" a changing table anew every time you're gonna use it, lol  ("This kid's gonna blow!!!  Outta my way!!!").

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drafan

drafan

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Elizabeth Patton. She and her sister are supposed bffs of Hannie. She's 18, her sister Lydia is 23, and Hannie is 14. I guess mentally they are all the same age. Unmarried fundie girls are only allowed to hang out with other unmarrieds.

 

Layers and layers and layers of junior frump.  Are they trying to look like they're having fun?

What the year has in store??? The same. And attending more bridal showers, baby showers, and weddings.

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Tasya

Tasya

I was going to say the same thing. She doesn't look like Joy any more than any of them look like her as a sibling. She literally has Josh's entire face on a female body. It's very unfortunate. Additionally, she needs a more supportive bra, asap. Look at the bust line of all of the other young ladies and look where Hannie's bust is resting. She needs to be properly fitted. 

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Temperance

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Hannie doesn't look like Joy at all to me.  Fundies have a whole thing about the kids' best friends are supposed to be older than them. Daddy Bontrager explained it at John's and Chelsy's wedding. Basically kids the same age are equally undeveloped and that's dangerous. Kids need their friends to be older people show so they have mature role models for the future, etc. 

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crazy8s

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1 hour ago, Temperance said:

Hannie doesn't look like Joy at all to me.  Fundies have a whole thing about the kids' best friends are supposed to be older than them. Daddy Bontrager explained it at John's and Chelsy's wedding. Basically kids the same age are equally undeveloped and that's dangerous. Kids need their friends to be older people show so they have mature role models for the future, etc. 

lydia patton posted from the TTH a few months back a pic with Anna and Johanna with the caption,

"so t h a n k f u l for these two 💙 for one who is constantly pouring into me over the years, encouraging and discipling me. & the other, I’m blessed to do the same. // Who is discipling you, and who are you leading? Find your people who point you to Jesus in everything, and be the same to others.

I can't get the pic, but it is on lydia.grace96 on instagram

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JoanArc

JoanArc

5 hours ago, Temperance said:

Hannie doesn't look like Joy at all to me.  Fundies have a whole thing about the kids' best friends are supposed to be older than them. Daddy Bontrager explained it at John's and Chelsy's wedding. Basically kids the same age are equally undeveloped and that's dangerous. Kids need their friends to be older people show so they have mature role models for the future, etc. 

 So shut up, and get in your pecking order. No independent thought! 

louannems

louannems

6 hours ago, Temperance said:

Hannie doesn't look like Joy at all to me.  Fundies have a whole thing about the kids' best friends are supposed to be older than them. Daddy Bontrager explained it at John's and Chelsy's wedding. Basically kids the same age are equally undeveloped and that's dangerous. Kids need their friends to be older people show so they have mature role models for the future, etc. 

I remember when Joy's best friend was Sierra, many years older than her. Hopefully Sierra isn't pouring into and discipling Joy into having baby after baby forever.

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queenanne

queenanne

1 hour ago, louannems said:

I remember when Joy's best friend was Sierra, many years older than her. Hopefully Sierra isn't pouring into and discipling Joy into having baby after baby forever.

And now it all makes sense though, doesn't it?  Your "friend" is really your frumpy mentor; which is why someone thought it was A-OK for a grown woman to be best friends with teen Joy.

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sleepysuzy

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21 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

Sometimes, I think that people just don't know how to English anymore.

Disciple as a verb is considered archaic or obsolete by some dictionaries, but the Duggars and their friends aren't making this usage up or being idiots. The more modern verb form is discipline, but that word has other connotations. "To disciple" is a transitive  verb meaning to train or teach someone, usually in an ideological system such as religion or philosophy. 

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jcbrown

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8 hours ago, sleepysuzy said:

Disciple as a verb is considered archaic or obsolete by some dictionaries, but the Duggars and their friends aren't making this usage up or being idiots. The more modern verb form is discipline, but that word has other connotations. "To disciple" is a transitive  verb meaning to train or teach someone, usually in an ideological system such as religion or philosophy. 

Agreed on the definition but they're still morons.

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Zella

Zella

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19 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Here's the menu for Dillon's new restaurant. @Zella, is this pricey for AR? Looks pretty basic to me 

https://wellingtonnwa.com/plates

Though he's trying to go for a fancy vibe, from what I can tell, it looks really overpriced to me, though I am admittedly a cheapskate from a family of tightwads. 😂

But his appetizer and dessert prices are absolutely insane-looking to me, based on the sit-down restaurants I frequent. They are literally double the cost of what I see. I get charging more for seafood dishes, but he's charging over $10 for a fucking chicken sandwich. 

I also am shocked he is trying to charge these prices in Springdale, which has a much more blue-collar vibe than Fayetteville, Rogers, or Bentonville. 

If his dessert prices are for a whole cake, I will retract my statement on that. But double-digits for a piece of cheesecake is just not something I am used to seeing around here.  

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Zella

Zella

Just now, Absolom said:

$9 for brussel sprouts?  $8 for mac and cheese?  Side servings?

In Springdale, Arkansas?   I can't see it.

I just about died about the mac and cheese. I order mac and cheese all the time because I am still a kid at heart. There's no way I am paying $8 for a side of mac and cheese. 

Also if I am reading his menu right, he is charging $14 for plain alfredo and if you want any meat on it, it goes from $19-30. That is insane to me. I often order alfredo around here, and I usually pay $15-ish for it with meat. 

Not Arkansas, but a lot of people when they want to be fancy, they go to the Keeter Center in Missouri (like Jill and Derick did). It's run by C of O and has actual chefs and a culinary program behind it and even they don't charge $19 for chicken alfredo. 

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BigBingerBro

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I have never been to Arkansas, so I know nothing about that area, but I could see people trying that restaurant for something "different" if there isn't anything like it nearby.  The key to success will be exceptional service along with a quality product.   The menu seems a little all over the place.  You can tell he's trying to appeal to a variety of tastes.  I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a future Restaurant Impossible type show.

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

49 minutes ago, Zella said:

I just about died about the mac and cheese. I order mac and cheese all the time because I am still a kid at heart. There's no way I am paying $8 for a side of mac and cheese. 

Also if I am reading his menu right, he is charging $14 for plain alfredo and if you want any meat on it, it goes from $19-30. That is insane to me. I often order alfredo around here, and I usually pay $15-ish for it with meat. 

Not Arkansas, but a lot of people when they want to be fancy, they go to the Keeter Center in Missouri (like Jill and Derick did). It's run by C of O and has actual chefs and a culinary program behind it and even they don't charge $19 for chicken alfredo. 

So, you think it is overpriced and therefore will likely fail? It seems on par with pricing of decent restaurants in my area, which is much more tony than Springdale is made out to be. 

4 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

I have never been to Arkansas, so I know nothing about that area, but I could see people trying that restaurant for something "different" if there isn't anything like it nearby.  The key to success will be exceptional service along with a quality product.   The menu seems a little all over the place.  You can tell he's trying to appeal to a variety of tastes.  I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a future Restaurant Impossible type show.

I'd pay for that screaming Brit (whose name escapes me) coming there to fix the place up. 😂

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Zella

Zella

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12 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

I have never been to Arkansas, so I know nothing about that area, but I could see people trying that restaurant for something "different" if there isn't anything like it nearby.  The key to success will be exceptional service along with a quality product.   The menu seems a little all over the place.  You can tell he's trying to appeal to a variety of tastes.  I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a future Restaurant Impossible type show.

The menu is sort of all over the place, isn't it? I can't really see a theme in any of the offerings, and none of it necessarily meshes well with the ostensible reason for the business anyway--fine whiskey and cigars. 

8 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

So, you think it is overpriced and therefore will likely fail? It seems on par with pricing of decent restaurants in my area, which is much more tony than Springdale is made out to be. 

I wouldn't necessarily say it will fail because of the prices. But in my experience/opinion, they are quite overpriced for the area, and the entire business is at odds with Springdale's image. It might turn into a trendy hot spot for all I know, but I have a hard time envisioning the people who would like this going all the way to Springdale for it. It will be interesting what the initial response to it is. I think people might go because they are curious. But as badly as he has botched the roll out already, I don't have high hopes for him being very competent at this. 

Big Binger Bro hit on this with his comment, but there is no real rhyme or reason to the menu. I get charging a lot for things with lobster in it. But I am having a hard time reconciling the restaurant that has fancy lobster dishes with what sounds like the world's most basic chicken sandwich. Or the restaurant that has a ton of random sriracha dishes with a bunch of hoity toity brunch stuff. And I say this as someone who likes all of the above. LOL

It's like he threw spaghetti to the wall to see what would stick and just relied on his own random interests for choosing the menu. 

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