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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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Seriously? The wedding was barely 2 weeks ago.

I'm a casual watcher but I truly hoped she would enjoy her time away from the circus and getting to know her husband before the baby train started.

Congrats?

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Well that didn't take long, which is no shock at all.  I'm happy for them, though.  I think motherhood will suit Jill much better than some of the other J'Girls (not to mention her mama). Speaking of... I cringed when I read, "'Well, mom has pregnancy tests upstairs and you could be pregnant so you should take one!'" Of course she does.   Sigh.

 

The due date is in March, so I assume it's a honeymoon baby. 

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Even with a honeymoon baby, they got married in June. What happened to keeping hush-hush about the blessed event in the first trimester? Even those "heathen" celebrity moms-to-be who are {gasp} unmarried and pregnant tend to keep quiet about it until they're at least 3-4 months along.

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I'm grossed out on about ten different levels about how Michelle has pregnancy tests stored in her house and offered one to Jill. Gross, gross, gross. Also, even if that were the case, let's add that to the list (which is getting quite lengthy) of things that are not necessary to share with People magazine.

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ugh. ALREADY?!?  They are barely married 2 months!

 

 

After taking several pregnancy tests that came back negative, Jill was persuaded by her sisters to take one of her mom Michelle's tests while she and Derick were visiting her parents' home. This test gave her a very different result – it was positive!

 

What the heck?!?  Only Michelle's pregnancy tests work?

 

 

About 30 days after Jill and Derick got married they gathered everyone in the living room and shared the news," Jim Bob, 49, tells PEOPLE. "Everyone was clapping and cheering, and we were in shock, too."

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Well that didn't take long. They found out after 30 days of marriage?? And that was after she had taken several pregnancy tests already (I guess no one explained to her about the timing of when a woman can get pregnant?)

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What the heck?!?  Only Michelle's pregnancy tests work?

 Well, how can we expect the dreaded, mass produced, secular pregnancy tests to work? Once you've given birth to as many as Michelle has, her methods are fool proof. Right? ;)

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OMG, here we go, another baby-making machine. There's just no words for these people. And Jessa and Ben are engaged which spells more pregnancies. This show will be on TV for the next 25 years anyway.

A make-up artist did Jill's make-up this morning. First time I've seen that.

I know this is going to sound ugly, but I'm just so tired of these famewhores. I wish all of them well, but for some reason they all make me just a little bit nauseous.

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Plans for their own supersize family.

Sigh. That just makes me sad. The Bible says nothing about it being a contest to have the most children. If family size is left up to God (as in no birth control) it typically won't be supersize, though if both parties are fertile it will probably be large. I hope that's what they mean & not that they plan on trying to squeeze out as many kids as humanly possible before menopause or death. Edited by ramble
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I can't believe they announced already! Just a week after Jessa's engagement.  They are usually much better at timing these things.  I was actually shocked that TLC let them announce since that seems like the perfect cliffhanger/preview teaser for their season.  But then I watched that video on People and... is she already showing??? In the interview segments, she's wearing that sweater and she looks so thick around the middle.  And then in the walking B-roll, there were a couple of shots where you can really see the belly.  Maybe it's because she was so thin before, but at 6-7 weeks I can't believe she'd already be showing that much.  Maybe they are having twins and that will be the big TLC announcement.  (total speculation on my part)

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Call me evil, but if this is a honeymoon baby it would be due around the last week of March. Perfectly healthy babies can arrive a couple weeks before their due date, so I'm all for this kid arriving sometime prior to March 21, their exact 9 month anniversary. Because that would seem a little awkward for them even though it is perfectly possible for a honeymoon baby. I do wish her a healthy pregnancy and baby.

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I can't believe they announced already! Just a week after Jessa's engagement.  They are usually much better at timing these things.

 

I think that's odd, too. Jill got to have the attention with her engagement and much as I don't care for Jessa, she deserved the attention this go-round. Jill is still in her second trimester - what harm would it have been to wait a few more weeks for the announcement?

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I can just imagine her taking along a pregnancy test every time she had to pee since a week after the wedding (or however sensitive those things are these days...my last baby was 23 years ago, and I know they've gotten faster since then) just to get the earliest possible confirmation.

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Over on the People forum, people are speculating the baby had to have been conceived before the wedding.

Like Jill, I wed on June 21. While my baby was not conceived on our honeymoon, I did get pregnant the next cycle - in mid-July. My due date was April 3. Unfortunately, my baby was very happy in utero, and didn't make an appearance until mid-April - two weeks late (I don't recommend this).

From mid- to late-March, my OB was saying "any time." So, a March baby is totally a reasonable outcome for a couple that didn't have sex before their June 21 wedding.

It was quick for us (we aren't fundies - in fact we're Jewish!). However, we were in our 30s, and my doctor said it would be an average of six months, probably, to conceive. We were happily shocked. I was still writing wedding thank you notes when my baby showers were being planned!

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Wow, Jill DOES look like she is showing already based on the brief videos. 

 

I do think they should have waited to announce just to be on the safe side, and also to allow Jessa some of the spotlight for a while. But anyhow, I wish them well and am excited to see what's next!

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One of the most beautiful, talented, and well loved actresses died last week, but a young woman who in a way,has the same famewhoring qualities as her parents has takes center stage on the cover because she became pregnant within the first two months of being married. Seriously...

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they announced the pregnancy this early but there is a reason why most doctors advise to wait till the 12 week mark.    But Jill isn't alone as I had a friend who announced at 3-4 weeks and it was nerve wracking the next month or so, waiting to see if the pregnancy would be ok.  

 

And there are no words I can use to describe my disgust at Michelle having pregnancy tests in the house at her age.   Someone needs a dose of reality and its called menapause!

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I was really hoping they could have more time as a couple before the baby arrived.  Sigh.  I'm sure they are happy, but given that they had no quality time alone before marriage having the time to get to know each other is so important.  To each his own, I guess.

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I'm not surprised that Jill is pregnant so soon after the wedding.  I hope having a baby doesn't stop her from becoming a midwife.  Do these people fuck like rabbits after marriage? They must. Whatever happened to enjoying being married for a second before having kids? Wishing Dill the best.  I'm guessing a Smuggar/Anna pregnancy announcement is next. 

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Just ewww.   I do not want to live in a world where as soon as I get married I start taking pregnancy tests.   You know it is okay to wait to get pregnant.   Honestly it takes some of the fun out of being newly wed if you are already feeling the pressure to get pregnant.   Pressure to the point your sisters are telling you to take a pregnancy test while visiting your mom.   How about just being happy to see your sister?    Of course, these people have nothing else to discuss other than having babies.

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In the People video, Derrick says that they're not trying to have kids. You're not using birth control, and having sex. What do you call it? 

I laughed at Jill quickly following up Derrick's comments with the 'We are open to as many kids as God will give us' line. Just reminded me that Jill is still programmed.

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And she wants a home birth. Are any of these kids going to branch out, and not raise their children like robots? Guess not. 


And why the hell does J'Chelle have pregnancy tests stockpiled? Is she so delusional that she thinks another blessing is possible? Get over it, J'Chelle!

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In the People video, Derrick says that they're not trying to have kids. You're not using birth control, and having sex. What do you call it? 

 

Some people forego all kinds of BC because they don't care either way if they have kids. If it happens, it happens mentality. Most of these people, however, are the nitwits you see on MTV's 16&Pregnant and Teen Mom. 

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I have never been pregnant so I don't really know these things, but it seems weird to announce it 30 days after your wedding, which would be the first possible date of conception.  Why had she taken several tests in those 30 days?  I really  have no idea but I thought at the very earliest, you could test positive two weeks after conception, or am I totally wrong? 

 

Obviously this is what she wants, but it seems to strange to me to not want to enjoy really any time just being married.  I mean she has never even lived with a man or dated at all, wouldn't it be nice to just have some time just the two of them?  I don't get it, any of it.

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I have never been pregnant so I don't really know these things, but it seems weird to announce it 30 days after your wedding, which would be the first possible date of conception.  Why had she taken several tests in those 30 days?  I really  have no idea but I thought at the very earliest, you could test positive two weeks after conception, or am I totally wrong? 

 

Obviously this is what she wants, but it seems to strange to me to not want to enjoy really any time just being married.  I mean she has never even lived with a man or dated at all, wouldn't it be nice to just have some time just the two of them?  I don't get it, any of it.

 

It is weird, because, as someone posted earlier, doctors recommend waiting until after the 12th week to tell people (I personally think you should wait later than this) because it's so easy to have a miscarriage. Many women can conceive and then miscarry with never even knowing. The science behind conception is incredibly intricate and it's a miracle anyone has a baby with everything that has to go right to make one. All it takes is one chromosome not paired up or one gene turned on/off to ruin everything. 

 

That being said, I'm giving a major side eye to this announcement when Ben and Jessa just got engaged. They could have easily waited until after the wedding (or at least a month after the engagement) to announce the good news to give Jessa her time in the spotlight. 

 

ETA: Someone posted on the next page that doctors don't usually recommend waiting to tell people about a pregnancy, but doctors do caution that the first trimester is the riskiest in terms of miscarriage hence the advice/common sense to wait until after this point to announce a pregnancy. I apologize for not making that distinction. 

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Boob will do anything to make people interested in the circus. I think Jessa should've had her own special time in the spotlight. Why do the Duggars hoard in on each other's things? Like when J'Chelle and Anna were pregnant at the same time. 

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In the People video, Derrick says that they're not trying to have kids. You're not using birth control, and having sex. What do you call it? 

 

I think, to them, if you don't have your menses tracked on a huge wall calender in the kitchen, you're not really *trying*.

 

I am saddened by this (to the extent that I really care). Clearly Jill came across as the kool-aid kid because she has totally soaked up all this crazy fundie stuff. Once married, it's a race to get pregnant. It took Anna FOUR LONG MONTHS and 15! pregnancy tests. Jill has so OWNED this challenge.

 

For these women their whole worth is tied up in popping out spawn. Jill will not be a midwife. As passionate as she seemed to be about it, she knows her true purpose.

 

It's sad because she's intellegent and enjoys learning. Maybe she'll read a book or two off Cathy's shelf. 

 

Yeah, and way to steal your sister's thunder. Not cool. 

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And she wants a home birth. Are any of these kids going to branch out, and not raise their children like robots? Guess not. 

And why the hell does J'Chelle have pregnancy tests stockpiled? Is she so delusional that she thinks another blessing is possible? Get over it, J'Chelle!

Odds are that something tragic will end up happening at one of these home births. I've got nothing against going natural but my thought is that if you want to deliver that way, do it in a hospital. If an emergency comes up, it can be taken care of immediately by doctors.

I'm betting that Jill started taking pregnancy tests a week after the marriage and that Clown Car takes one every day unless she's on her period, if she still has a period. Her crazy ass will probably continue trying to get preggers even after her period has stopped.

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That being said, I'm giving a major side eye to this announcement when Ben and Jessa just got engaged. They could have easily waited until after the wedding (or at least a month after the engagement) to announce the good news to give Jessa her time in the spotlight. 

 

It has always annoyed me that whenever you have a TH with a group of kids, usually the older girls, Jill does all the talking. No one ever gets a chance to say anything before she's jumping right in there finishing the thought. Jana just smiles quietly, Jinger rolls her eyes and I can totally understand Jessa getting snarky if her whole life she's been talked over by her slightly older sister. 

 

Now this? Especially since lots of pregnancies terminate within the first trimester, it's incredibly selfish of Jill to rush out with the news (nothing wrong with keeping it to immediate family for 3 months) once again hogging the spotlight. 

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That being said, I'm giving a major side eye to this announcement when Ben and Jessa just got engaged. They could have easily waited until after the wedding (or at least a month after the engagement) to announce the good news to give Jessa her time in the spotlight. 

I agree, they could have waited a couple more weeks and announce it as the new season starts.  Definate famewhoring going on here.

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In the People video, Derrick says that they're not trying to have kids. You're not using birth control, and having sex. What do you call it?

I understood it as him saying they were NOT not trying.  So like, we're not using birth control, but we're not like planning sex to conceive. 

 

 

Do these people fuck like rabbits after marriage?

YES!!! Especially those two, they were practically mauling each other with the eye sex and the hand holding porn before the wedding.  And let's not forget the ever so scandalous, full frontal hug at the airport.  I'm sure they barely left that beach house for their entire honeymoon.  And good for them!

 

I personally see no problem telling family early.  Afterall, if something were to go wrong, I'm sure she'd lean on her sisters and mother for support.  But I think it is shockingly early to have a People cover story.  Talk about rolling the dice.  So much could have gone wrong while that issue was in print.  I have a cousin who is also due at the end of March and she JUST had her first ultrasound confirming the heartbeat.  She does seem to be showing early though, so I'm guessing they couldn't keep a lid on it any longer.  And didn't Derrick's family spill the beans on the engagement early? Maybe they wanted to get out in front of the story. 

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Just ewww.   I do not want to live in a world where as soon as I get married I start taking pregnancy tests.   You know it is okay to wait to get pregnant.   Honestly it takes some of the fun out of being newly wed if you are already feeling the pressure to get pregnant.   Pressure to the point your sisters are telling you to take a pregnancy test while visiting your mom.   How about just being happy to see your sister?    Of course, these people have nothing else to discuss other than having babies.

Just ewww.   I do not want to live in a world where as soon as I get married I start taking pregnancy tests.   You know it is okay to wait to get pregnant.   Honestly it takes some of the fun out of being newly wed if you are already feeling the pressure to get pregnant.   Pressure to the point your sisters are telling you to take a pregnancy test while visiting your mom.   How about just being happy to see your sister?    Of course, these people have nothing else to discuss other than having babies.

These people have a psychotic obsession with sex and pregnancy. What I'm wondering is who's going to support all of Boob's grand kids? Not a one of Boob's kids will ever have as much money as Boob and there's a good chance that some of his grand kids will grow up in near poverty. Of course their thinking is that God will provide, and I agree. God provides you with enough sense to know that you shouldn't have more kids than you can afford.

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There's something mind blowing about going from hugging a guy for the first time to carrying his child a few days/weeks later.

 

Not to be gross -- but do fundies believe in having sex during pregnancy? I know in lots of conservative cultures, it isn't done -- not necessarily due to religious beliefs as much as the conservative views re sex. Even if it is allowable, I can't imagine the woman being all that comfortable with sex while pregnant. Given that they've waited their whole lives to get physical, you would think they'd want to enjoy that aspect of the relationship for a while before jumping into the -- pregnant, healing from delivery, now we're trying so we can finally have sex, pregnant again -- abstaining again cycle.

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Do doctors really recommend you wait to announce? I had 3 kids and no doctor ever said that to me

 

The first trimester is the riskiest in terms of miscarrying so it's often recommended to wait to publicly announce a pregnancy until it's past a safe point (usually 12 weeks) or the pregnancy is viable if premature birth were to occur (the advice I have been given). I've had more friends than I can count who announce they are eight weeks pregnant on Facebook and then miscarry a few weeks later. It's tragic enough to lose a wanted pregnancy, but it's even harder to have to tell everyone it occurred and you had announced it and already made posts about buying baby clothes, furniture, ect. 

 

I'm not saying a miscarriage should be a shush-shush thing because many people can find it helps to talk about it with others, but for many I can assume they want to grieve privately and that is easier if they never told anyone about the pregnancy in the first place. 

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It looked like Jill was showing to me too.  I'm thinking the announcement is now because they are getting ready to hit the road promoting the new season, and they are trying to avoid awkward questions, surprise announcements over Jessa's engagement. 

 

I hate that they start taking pregnancy tests as soon as possible.  Just chill a day or two!

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It looked like Jill was showing to me too.  I'm thinking the announcement is now because they are getting ready to hit the road promoting the new season, and they are trying to avoid awkward questions, surprise announcements over Jessa's engagement. 

 

I hate that they start taking pregnancy tests as soon as possible.  Just chill a day or two!

Maybe I'm the only one but I don't think she's truly showing. I think she may be gaining weight esp since she's so thin, but it's the kind of thing where it can easily be covered up if she wore the right attire; instead she and Derick are accentuating it with their poses, her clothing etc. I think most women gain weight and go through that awkward stage at work where it's too soon to tell but they're a bit bigger -- they don't take out an announcement, they hide it with clothing until they're ready to tell. They could have hidden it a bit longer. And as for being on the road -- if they thought they'd start getting random questions, they could have avoided the latest press tour -- just don't go and say that Derick doesn't have the time off and Jill doesn't want to be away from her husband.

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Maybe I'm the only one but I don't think she's truly showing. I think she may be gaining weight esp since she's so thin, but it's the kind of thing where it can easily be covered up if she wore the right attire; instead she and Derick are accentuating it with their poses, her clothing etc. I think most women gain weight and go through that awkward stage at work where it's too soon to tell but they're a bit bigger -- they don't take out an announcement, they hide it with clothing until they're ready to tell. They could have hidden it a bit longer. And as for being on the road -- if they thought they'd start getting random questions, they could have avoided the latest press tour -- just don't go and say that Derick doesn't have the time off and Jill doesn't want to be away from her husband.

They definitely could have hidden it longer. Jill is not showing that much. If anything, it just looks like she has a food baby, aka a tummy pooch from a heavy meal.

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@cereality, I agree with you. You can hide a pregnancy for a good amount of time before it becomes too obvious. I've also heard (no personal experience yet) that it takes a while for a first pregnancy to show. For my friends, at least, they weren't obviously showing until they were 25 weeks along. 

 

Then again, a girl I went to high school with managed to hide her entire pregnancy (honest, no one knew she was pregnant) using hoodies so it's possible to keep it under wraps the entire time. 

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I'm grossed out on about ten different levels about how Michelle has pregnancy tests stored in her house and offered one to Jill. Gross, gross, gross. Also, even if that were the case, let's add that to the list (which is getting quite lengthy) of things that are not necessary to share with People magazine.

I suppose this stuff sells magazines or People wouldn't be paying for every little hiccup, but how can that even be? I enjoy posting and reading here because you all are fun and funny. I can't imagine having any serious interest in this otherwise boring topic. 

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I'm more grossed out that JB is commenting on how they made an announcement 30 days after marriage. We all know it's a honeymoon -- or just got home from our honeymoon last night -- baby. Does dad really need to be thinking about and commenting on the exact day that conception occurred?? They act SO modest, but when sex is on the table -- it's ok for Dad to be commenting and the other kids to be clapping and cheering. I'm sure most couples would be mortified if their parents knew the exact date/time/place that sex occurred; ok so with honeymoon babies it isn't rocket science, but still no one wants their parents/in-laws to comment on it.

 

I wonder what Derick's mom is thinking. I'm sure she'll be happy to have her first grandchild, but I do wonder if she thinks this is way too quick.

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I'm more grossed out that JB is commenting on how they made an announcement 30 days after marriage. We all know it's a honeymoon -- or just got home from our honeymoon last night -- baby. Does dad really need to be thinking about and commenting on the exact day that conception occurred?? They act SO modest, but when sex is on the table -- it's ok for Dad to be commenting and the other kids to be clapping and cheering. I'm sure most couples would be mortified if their parents knew the exact date/time/place that sex occurred; ok so with honeymoon babies it isn't rocket science, but still no one wants their parents/in-laws to comment on it.

 

I wonder what Derick's mom is thinking. I'm sure she'll be happy to have her first grandchild, but I do wonder if she thinks this is way too quick.

Fifty years ago I conceived my first child on our honeymoon. I'm still a little mad at my mother for commenting on that fact. 

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It doesn't matter to the Duggars that it's still early in the first trimester; this is a win-win for them, regardless. If Jill carries to term, that's press. If Jill miscarries, that's also press - possibly even MORE press, because they can have the funeral spectacle and all the anti-abortion stuff that they somehow associate with miscarriage.

 

As for conceiving so soon... with such a short engagement, it's pretty easy to pick a wedding date to coincide with the fertile days. There is no doubt in my mind that they did this, because in the fundie world, nothing proves your feminine worth more than to conceive on your honeymoon.

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