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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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Shout out to everyone participating in the conversation about Jill’s miscarriage/stillbirth. You’re navigating a difficult topic with respect and thoughtfulness and your contributions are kind, considerate, constructive and informative. 

Thank you. 💚💚

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6 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Re the chicken and dumplings recipe: I'm exhausted looking at the trouble to make those dumplings/noodles. The soup is a just a can dump, so why not go all the way and get some canned biscuits, tear off chunks of dough, and throw 'em in?  Or buy a box of noodles.

If wifey Jill keeps stretching and twisting her face for photos, she might end up looking like her lopsided hubby. 

That's what I don't get. She'll actually make noodles, not even dumplings, but won't take the time to throw some chicken breasts in the oven? Or a crockpot? Baffles me. 

(That last statement covers a lot of my thoughts about the Dullards, though.)

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5 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Whoooaaa, slow down there just a minute! Who do I look like, Julia Child?

I did everything you said - put two eggs in a pot of water then boiled the water then took it off the stove.  Now what? Is this supposed to be some kind of soup? 

Help me! I'm completely confused!

Here Celia: Recipe

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6 hours ago, Bridget said:

In Calif, subs are required to have a BA and take a general exam to make sure they have basic math, reading, writing & logic skills. (No offense to anyone here who has worked as a sub, but based on the ones I’ve met or had sub for me, you’d never even know they had a heartbeat or were conscious based on what I see when I come back to work after being gone! Most of them can’t/don’t follow a basic lesson plan with specific information to save their lives...much like Jill and her skill set in delivering babies!)

I subbed for a year and my state requires none of this. It requires 60 college credits and a background check ... that's it. I have a BA and no criminal history so I used it as a way to fill my time when I was job hunting, but I'd like to believe I was kinda useful. I followed lesson plans (if there was one, a lot of teachers just left movies to watch) and left notes. In the end I had a coupe of teachers request me because they knew I was at least responsible, if not formally trained as a teacher.

I'd say that's more like Jill and her midwifing. She's "qualified" because she's seen some births and happens to be available. 

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12 hours ago, Ocean Chick said:

Why in the world would you use cream of chicken soup in that concoction instead of cream?  I’d love to know the sodium count on a serving of that chicken and dumplings, what with the packaged broth and the canned soup and the canned chicken and the “salt to taste”. 

Same reason, apparently, that you get excited about the option of using "homemade bone broth!".

And why use canned chicken if you have (presumably) already cooked the chicken you got the bones from?

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6 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Absolutely real question, no snark (well, just a bit!) HOW do they attempt to explain the difference between the Catholic faith and their own, in a few minutes with someone who doesn't even speak the same language? I really want to know how they go about this.

The infuriating and also sad part of this is that they could never do this in English.  They have never entered a Catholic church, gone to a Mass or even read any Catholic theology.  All they know is that Catholics are going to hell and must be saved because their preacher told them so.  They may have read some anti-Catholic books, but they have never really encountered any Catholics.  They probably just spout off their cherry-picked Bible verses to show how salvation is by faith alone.  They can learn how to say that in Spanish.

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9 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Can I just say how much I loathe these "missionaries" who feel the need to convert Catholics?  I would just love it if they happened to accost someone who spoke enough English to tell them:  "Yes, I know Jesus, thank you very much, because I am a member of THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH!  LEAVE ME ALONE YOU ARROGANT DUMBASS GRINGO!"

We had some old dude in where I work the other day spouting off about how the King James Bible was written by GOD and was the only "true" Bible and I wanted to yell, "How about Douay Rheims?" but I don't want to engage with his type. Also, when JWs and other types come to my door and I tell them I'm Roman Catholic (and not the badly lapsed part) they tend not only to leave me alone but to act like I'm about to put some sort of hex on them! It's funny but weird. I have a nephew (on my spouse's side) who is a Quiverfull type and has spent quite a few "mission" trips in Mexico where they've talked about working with university students and I've been dying to find out more about exactly what kind of church it is and how they go about converting Catholics but the don't want to engage with those types is even stronger within me.  

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14 hours ago, Christina87 said:

I've got an old, secret family recipe!!!!

ingredients:

eggs

water

directions:

put eggs and water in pot

boil water

Take off the stove 

 

you all can thank me for this culinary culinary genius later. ????

Ima gonna need to write this one down.  GENIUS!  HA!

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2 hours ago, TresGatos said:

We had some old dude in where I work the other day spouting off about how the King James Bible was written by GOD and was the only "true" Bible and I wanted to yell, "How about Douay Rheims?"

What about the Dead Sea Scrolls?

 

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12 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Absolutely real question, no snark (well, just a bit!) HOW do they attempt to explain the difference between the Catholic faith and their own, in a few minutes with someone who doesn't even speak the same language? I really want to know how they go about this.

 

12 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'm sure that they're coached to say "you worship idols" in Spanish. 

^^^This.  "Los santos, la virgen, y el papa' son malos.  No son de Dios. Son del diablo. La Biblia catholica es mala.  La Biblia 'King James' es de Jesuscristo. Jesucristo solamente es bueno. Totally bueno.  Nuestro Jesucristo, no tu Jesucristo catolico. ¿Quieres un dumb-dumb? Tenemos dumb-dumbs para la gente 'saved.' Gracias." 

/go on to bother next person

6 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The infuriating and also sad part of this is that they could never do this in English.  They have never entered a Catholic church, gone to a Mass or even read any Catholic theology.  All they know is that Catholics are going to hell and must be saved because their preacher told them so.  They may have read some anti-Catholic books, but they have never really encountered any Catholics.  They probably just spout off their cherry-picked Bible verses to show how salvation is by faith alone.  They can learn how to say that in Spanish.

Exactly. 

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1 hour ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

 

^^^This.  "Los santos, la virgen, y el papa' son malos.  No son de Dios. Son del diablo. La Biblia catholica es mala.  La Biblia King James es de Jesuscristo. Jesucristo solamente es bueno. Totally bueno.  Nuestro Jesucristo, no tu Jesucristo catolico. ¿Quieres un dumb-dumb? Tenemos dumb-dumbs para la gente 'saved.' Gracias." 

/go on to bother next person

Exactly. 

I really wonder how many native Spanish speakers actually convert after hearing this arrogant, narrow-minded Anglo-centric approach.  Do they have to learn English to understand the "true word of Jesus".  How does one even translate Jacobean English into Spanish?  How can they be sure that nothing is lost in the translation? How can something translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into Latin into English be better than just translating from the original text into Spanish (the way a Catholic bible would be)?

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8 hours ago, McManda said:

I subbed for a year and my state requires none of this. It requires 60 college credits and a background check ... that's it. I have a BA and no criminal history so I used it as a way to fill my time when I was job hunting, but I'd like to believe I was kinda useful. I followed lesson plans (if there was one, a lot of teachers just left movies to watch) and left notes. In the end I had a coupe of teachers request me because they knew I was at least responsible, if not formally trained as a teacher.

I'd say that's more like Jill and her midwifing. She's "qualified" because she's seen some births and happens to be available. 

Where were you when I needed you? ?

On behalf of any teacher that never said it to you, thank you very much and you are so appreciated!

I save documentaries & movies for days I'm at work, so I always leave lesson plans for guest teachers. (I can get so much work done while students sit silently & take film notes!)

If you ever find yourself in SoCal and want to sub, please let me know! I am totally serious.

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11 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Absolutely real question, no snark (well, just a bit!) HOW do they attempt to explain the difference between the Catholic faith and their own, in a few minutes with someone who doesn't even speak the same language? I really want to know how they go about this.

Jill taught herself Spanish at home when she was a teenager. It's on their site, so it must be true and that she's beyond proficient! She must've served as their official translator. I'm sure it was smooth sailing with her there in that key role. Who needed the actual Spanish speaking pastor to go on the trip when Tia Jill is around?

She's probably taught her siblings and now everyone is bilingual!  Jinger did say "gracias" and "God bless you" in the episode when Jeremy had his ugly ass bookshelves built and installed. (I still think it's beyond stupid that those two quit Spanish lessons. Maybe they flaked because they didn't learn how to say "babe" on the first day?) 

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58 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I really wonder how many native Spanish speakers actually convert after hearing this arrogant, narrow-minded Anglo-centric approach.  Do they have to learn English to understand the "true word of Jesus".  How does one even translate Jacobean English into Spanish?  How can they be sure that nothing is lost in the translation? How can something translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into Latin into English be better than just translating from the original text into Spanish (the way a Catholic bible would be)?

I don't think they even care.  They just want their white-Evangelical Christian-American savior complex to be fed by "saving" people.  They don't think about it beyond how it makes them feel and that they can tell others they did it (and get a vacation out of it). They can also mark down one more point for themselves in the tally book in their heads to show to Jesus at the pearly gates ("See, Jesus! I gave dumb-dumbs to saved 40 people in Mexico in 2018! I gave myself an extra point here because these people didn't speak English and were kind of brown. I did Your work. It was a big sacrifice for me to go on this vacation mission. Totally.").

This kind of missioncationing has very little to do with what the locals get out of it and everything to do with how good it makes the "missionaries" feel. 

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6 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

I typed "incompetent midwife" into google images - Jill's picture is the first image. Just sayin'

This is pretty hilarious in a tragic sort of way.

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20 hours ago, Bridget said:

FYI: I went to that CC and it was the best school I went to! They’re not the God awful places people think they are. My teachers weren’t there to write books or do research. They taught!

I attended a CC for two years after I had a change of heart about my major in an $$$$$ university. Couldn’t see spending 3x the money for the same gen ed classes staying at the university until I decided what I wanted to do for life.  

I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.  My profs at the CC kicked my academic butt. English classes taught by professional writers.  Chem class taught by a research chemist. Yup it was great!  I’m encouraging my own kids to attend CC their first year for that reason. Once the non-serious students fall away after a few weeks the academic experience is awesome!

I truly wonder how the Duglings would place in those placement tests.  Seriously. I’ve met homeschooled grads who blew those tests out of the water. Seriously doubt that would happen with the SOTDRT. 

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33 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

I typed "incompetent midwife" into google images - Jill's picture is the first image. Just sayin'

I believed you but I had to try it myself anyway.  That’s so funny but disturbing.  I wonder what other phrases we can search for that will bring up Duggar images? (Heading off to try a few things...)

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40 minutes ago, Lady Edith said:

I attended a CC for two years after I had a change of heart about my major in an $$$$$ university. Couldn’t see spending 3x the money for the same gen ed classes staying at the university until I decided what I wanted to do for life.  

I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.  My profs at the CC kicked my academic butt. English classes taught by professional writers.  Chem class taught by a research chemist. Yup it was great!  I’m encouraging my own kids to attend CC their first year for that reason. Once the non-serious students fall away after a few weeks the academic experience is awesome!

I truly wonder how the Duglings would place in those placement tests.  Seriously. I’ve met homeschooled grads who blew those tests out of the water. Seriously doubt that would happen with the SOTDRT. 

Right?!?! There are a few CC profs on this board and I'm so excited for them to see your comments!

I had a Psych prof come up to me when I was a freshman at my CC and ask me why my quiz grade was so low (as in they wondered why it was so low because that wasn't normally how I did on quizzes).

I've also found that the staff at CCs are ten times better at what they do as well. They're beyond competent, go above and beyond the call of duty to make sure students are on the right path to graduate and will almost always go out of their way to make each student succeed.

When I transferred to the state college for my BA, it was just SO sad. The profs were a joke. Clearly on a power trip, they all must've earned a Ph.D. in "how to intimidate students and come off like a jackass." I didn't feel comfortable interacting or participating in class. At all. I made sure to reflect that in the evaluations, but it was a long two years with jerk off teachers.

The advising team couldn't advise a student on how to find their way out of a paper bag. I was told to take a few classes by my "advisor" that I didn't even need. Before my last semester, I was sent a checklist of classes to make sure I was set to finish in time. I was the one who realized I was enrolled in a really hard class in my final semester that I didn't need! Even though my advisor told me I needed it when I met with them, I dropped it on time, upset with the idea of another W on my record. I am also really glad I double checked my transcripts before graduation because I ended up having to call the freakin' chancellor's office to have Fs (that never should have been on my record) turned into Ws. Turns out Admissions didn't process my Drop cards, so the professors gave me an F because they didn't know I dropped the class. Such a mess. Had I not double checked, my GPA would've gone down to a scary place. I never would've gotten into my post-grad Teacher Credential program and then go back to earn my Education Specialist credential. I'm still not sure what 

(Please make sure your kids double check their grades/records every semester once they transfer to avoid the chaos of having a potentially crappy GPA that they didn't earn follow them to Grad School and/or an other area where their GPA examined!)

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Who needs TLC to film and distribute? After all, Jill has been the subject of a reality show for basically half her life. That means she's a super expert and can use Instagram live to create her own pseudo TV show.

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2 hours ago, McManda said:

Who needs TLC to film and distribute? After all, Jill has been the subject of a reality show for basically half her life. That means she's a super expert and can use Instagram live to create her own pseudo TV show.

They want to be the new Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker show.  Wait for it.

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6 hours ago, starlightlost said:

Jill went live on Instagram? WTF is a "progressive date"? I'm almost positive Derick is high on something.

I’m guessing it’s what we sinners would call bar hopping/pub crawl. Except they didn’t drink. Much orginal Dullards. 

 

Going live is like the highest level of attention seeking desperation on social media. I mean it’s all attention seeking and I post pictures of my kids but there’s something about posting “live” that seems next level. Live videos for sports teams, press conferences, news events, sure. Live Insta that you’re going out on a date? No one cares Jill.  

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Just saw the video. These 2 losers are craving more attention than ever. Don't know what's their deal with having date nights in a car, there is nothing progressive about it, Mr Lunera and I have grabbed fast food and drove to a nice spot overlooking the bay and had some very nice conversations.These dolts seem to prefer staying at the restaurant parking lot and eat, while they take selfies and record to show people it really happened. Why not have a picnic at the park instead of having the kids watching cartoons in a car? They can eat and watch TV at home. It was super cringey when Derick made his stupid kissy face in the middle of Jill talking, yuck.

Also, Jill raided Michelle's recipes so expect more processed crap on her site.

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3 hours ago, Trillium said:

I’m guessing it’s what we sinners would call bar hopping/pub crawl. Except they didn’t drink. Much orginal Dullards. 

 

Going live is like the highest level of attention seeking desperation on social media. I mean it’s all attention seeking and I post pictures of my kids but there’s something about posting “live” that seems next level. Live videos for sports teams, press conferences, news events, sure. Live Insta that you’re going out on a date? No one cares Jill.  

Seriously. If you are going live it better be because something really interesting is happening- like, a newsworthy event- otherwise...just no. 

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2 hours ago, Lunera said:

It was super cringey when Derick made his stupid kissy face in the middle of Jill talking, yuck.

I cringe basically whenever Jill opens her mouth. She's one of the most inarticulate people I've ever heard speak. So, yeah.

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12 hours ago, starlightlost said:

Jill went live on Instagram? WTF is a "progressive date"? I'm almost positive Derick is high on something.

Somebody please post the link. I know I will regret it, but I must see it!

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You can't link "stories," only screenshot stills. Go her IG, then click on her avatar. If the story is still there, the avatar will be ringed in pink and orange.  Stories are only viewable for 24 hours. That's why I think they started the You Tube channel, more permanency for the rantings of Derelict's to come.

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3 hours ago, Lunera said:

Just saw the video. These 2 losers are craving more attention than ever. Don't know what's their deal with having date nights in a car, there is nothing progressive about it, Mr Lunera and I have grabbed fast food and drove to a nice spot overlooking the bay and had some very nice conversations.These dolts seem to prefer staying at the restaurant parking lot and eat, while they take selfies and record to show people it really happened. Why not have a picnic at the park instead of having the kids watching cartoons in a car? They can eat and watch TV at home. It was super cringey when Derick made his stupid kissy face in the middle of Jill talking, yuck.

Also, Jill raided Michelle's recipes so expect more processed crap on her site.

It felt like/sounded like Derick kept interjecting/interrupting, preventing Jill from completing a full sentence. At one point he shoved a piece of food in her mouth - when she was in the middle of talking! That seemed passive/aggressive. She gave him a look at one point that looked like she gets tired of him. Remember when they first got married, she complained that he tries to joke around too much? I think he gets on her nerves sometimes. 

Re: Jill saying that Sam pulled himself up for the first time - have we ever seen him crawling or even sitting up on his own? - not in a baby seat, but just sitting on the floor? He's about 8 months old now, right? Don't they say that a baby who skips crawling and goes straight to walking - that they miss out on some developmental milestones and it can actually be a bit of a problem? Or is that a wives' tale?

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19 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

You can't link "stories," only screenshot stills. Go her IG, then click on her avatar. If the story is still there, the avatar will be ringed in pink and orange.  Stories are only viewable for 24 hours. That's why I think they started the You Tube channel, more permanency for the rantings of Derelict's to come.

Ah. Thank you.

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5 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

It felt like/sounded like Derick kept interjecting/interrupting, preventing Jill from completing a full sentence. At one point he shoved a piece of food in her mouth - when she was in the middle of talking! That seemed passive/aggressive. She gave him a look at one point that looked like she gets tired of him. Remember when they first got married, she complained that he tries to joke around too much? I think he gets on her nerves sometimes. 

Re: Jill saying that Sam pulled himself up for the first time - have we ever seen him crawling or even sitting up on his own? - not in a baby seat, but just sitting on the floor? He's about 8 months old now, right? Don't they say that a baby who skips crawling and goes straight to walking - that they miss out on some developmental milestones and it can actually be a bit of a problem? Or is that a wives' tale?

Should we take bets on whether it will be Derick or Jill who finally snaps and murders the other? There is so much misery and dysfunction lingering below the surface of all those shitty recipes and baby photos. 

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4 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

It felt like/sounded like Derick kept interjecting/interrupting, preventing Jill from completing a full sentence. At one point he shoved a piece of food in her mouth - when she was in the middle of talking! That seemed passive/aggressive. She gave him a look at one point that looked like she gets tired of him. Remember when they first got married, she complained that he tries to joke around too much? I think he gets on her nerves sometimes. 

Re: Jill saying that Sam pulled himself up for the first time - have we ever seen him crawling or even sitting up on his own? - not in a baby seat, but just sitting on the floor? He's about 8 months old now, right? Don't they say that a baby who skips crawling and goes straight to walking - that they miss out on some developmental milestones and it can actually be a bit of a problem? Or is that a wives' tale?

I remember one time when Derick said he has told Jill to be more quiet when she starts yelling a little because she was use to having to speak up when she was around her family due to all the noise. I think they are tired of each other. They try to pretend everything is fine between them, but they are not fooling people.

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1 hour ago, tabloidlover said:

Well shit.  I can’t see the video and her account is private.   I requested to follow yesterday, still waiting

Her account is still public. No way these famewhores would make either of their accounts private ever.

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1 hour ago, OpieTaylor said:

It felt like/sounded like Derick kept interjecting/interrupting, preventing Jill from completing a full sentence. At one point he shoved a piece of food in her mouth - when she was in the middle of talking! That seemed passive/aggressive. She gave him a look at one point that looked like she gets tired of him. Remember when they first got married, she complained that he tries to joke around too much? I think he gets on her nerves sometimes. 

Re: Jill saying that Sam pulled himself up for the first time - have we ever seen him crawling or even sitting up on his own? - not in a baby seat, but just sitting on the floor? He's about 8 months old now, right? Don't they say that a baby who skips crawling and goes straight to walking - that they miss out on some developmental milestones and it can actually be a bit of a problem? Or is that a wives' tale?

Payback for all the times early in their marriage when she wouldn't let him get a word in edgewise?

Those two really are exactly alike. It's no wonder JB chose Jill for Derick.

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38 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

Where do you see this in her Instagram? I don't see that.

I don’t either. Sorry—I realized as soon as I posted that I’d been reading a non-official Instagram account. I deleted my post almost immediately but you caught it. Oops!

On another note, I watched the “progressive date” video. I think Derick still has braces. Him needing to kiss Jill and put food in her mouth while she was talking is truly weird. That said—hey, Israel was watching Curious George! I wonder what JB thinks of that  

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5 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

 

Re: Jill saying that Sam pulled himself up for the first time - have we ever seen him crawling or even sitting up on his own? - not in a baby seat, but just sitting on the floor? He's about 8 months old now, right? Don't they say that a baby who skips crawling and goes straight to walking - that they miss out on some developmental milestones and it can actually be a bit of a problem? Or is that a wives' tale?

I've never heard that about babies who skip crawling.  My son skipped crawling& started walking on his own around 9 months. He turned out to be one smart guy, although on the quiet side, an honor student in high school & college.  But i do remember his kindergarten teacher asking me how old he was when he started walking so maybe it does have to do with a child's development. 

Ive  read a lot of comments on here & other sites that people thought Sammy was behind in his development when he was younger.  

It will be interesting to see if Izzy & Sammy will be home schooled or has it been decided? Wasn't there something on Instagram with a picture of Izzy & a book and hashtag was something about being home schooled or am I dreaming that? With all the grand Duggs around same age, they could make up their own school of the dining room table.

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