Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[OhioMom]

http://gawker.com/is-this-josh-duggars-okcupid-profile-1725202825

 

From the profile:

 

Also, at the bottom of that article:

 

Update: An earlier version of this incorrectly referred to Josh Duggar’s Ashley Madison username as “joesmithsonnwa,” when “joesmithsonnwa@gmail.com” was actually his Ashley Madison login. We’ve updated the post to reflect this.

 

So...I'm not sure this means they can't be one in the same, or not.

[CofCinci]

I'm wondering what other secrets Josh has hidden that no one knows about? I'd love to have access to his computer for a couple of hours. 

Pornhub, redtube.  Probably just the vanilla categories.

[Italian Ice]

It means they forgot to add the @gmail.com in their story 

[BitterApple]

I wonder if Anna feels like an asshole now for posting all those "Real Marriage" memes on her social media.

I have a feeling the Duggars won't be receiving an invitation to the next Bates wedding.

[Anne Elk]

I do feel bad for Anna. I doubt very much that Josh turned to Ashley Madison because she wouldn't loosen up. I think he just found out that whatever he was getting at home wasn't enough for him. That would fit in with the turn-ons list -- he's not looking for something kinky or crazy, he just wants someone. Anyone. 

 

And I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that two people who had never been alone in a room together discovered after they married that their sex drives were incompatible. 

Edited August 20, 2015 by Anne Elk

[cereality]

Is Josh really THIS dumb??

 

I mean I guess I know the answer. When he got the job in DC, he should have breathed a sigh of relief knowing he "got away" with the molestation -- nothing came out in the employer's background check etc. But then he should have gone to DC knowing that it is pretty common to dig up dirt on anyone whose politics you don't like; people don't like his families "conservative" -- no abortions ever, all LGBT people are pedophiles -- kind of politics PLUS he and his family are C list public figures. He had to know that people wouldn't like that he got a 150k job with a hate group while having no education/credentials to speak of -- and thus they'd be gunning for him to make him look bad -- whether that meant exposing the molestation or anything else he did.

 

So given that background why the eff does he sign up on Ashley Madison?? No matter what assurances they give you, in this day and age, what website is secure and totally hacker proof. Heck - if Sony, Anthem, and the federal government can be hit by hackers -- he didn't think some random affairs website could ever be hit?? If he was so desperate for sex, weren't there other ways to get it?? People have been having affairs since the dawn of time -- they picked up women in different places; they didn't sign up on an internet service using their real name and a credit card that could be tracked back to them in 2 seconds by anyone with a grudge.

[JoanArc]

 

I have a feeling the Duggars won't be receiving an invitation to the next Bates wedding.

Or Amy's. She'll be, um, busy that weekend. Doing Stuff. There goes her gift grab, too.

[CofCinci]

Question for everyone:  Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid?  I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

Edited August 20, 2015 by CofCinci

[TaxNerd]

First the Jared from Subway guilty plea and now this, all in the same day!

I don't know why these stories constantly surprise me, I should realize by now people are very different behind closed doors.

So far Josh is the biggest celeb outed by the Ashley M. hack, though that may change soon. I wonder how an "oops" baby would be treated by the fundy world-isn't every child a blessing?

[Lillybee]

I wonder how the leg humpters will explain this away.

[Julia]

Is Josh really THIS dumb??

 

I mean I guess I know the answer. When he got the job in DC, he should have breathed a sigh of relief knowing he "got away" with the molestation -- nothing came out in the employer's background check etc. But then he should have gone to DC knowing that it is pretty common to dig up dirt on anyone whose politics you don't like; people don't like his families "conservative" -- no abortions ever, all LGBT people are pedophiles -- kind of politics PLUS he and his family are C list public figures.

The thing is, though, you're assuming liberals brought him down. I think it's equally as likely that the campaign of someone who didn't want to have to deal with Mssrs. Santorum and Huckabee was behind this.

Edited August 20, 2015 by Julia

[TaxNerd]

Question for everyone: Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid? I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

Only Anna is that naive.

[Julia]

Only Anna is that naive.

Except, according to the haxxorz, well over 90% of the users of that site were men, so if that was Josh's account, he may never have actually connected with a woman.

[MarysWetBar]

No-one can make me feel bad for enjoying the downfall of this group of grifting hypocrites. No way. If he was an average joe struggling every day to pay his mortgage at a job he hated to feed his family and going home to a wife who was always nagging or acting eternally disappointed in him, I could at least have empathy for him. But he instead is a smug hypocritical asshole who liked to sit on high and make loud proclamations about how anyone who doesn't agree with his phony values was going straight to hell. HOW DARE HE??

Fuck him and his parents. Not even gonna feel sorry for his wife who is a grown ass woman and can leave him anytime. But she won't.

Edited August 20, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[cereality]

I completely agree -- JB and J'chelle are at least partially to blame for Josh's behavior. Not touching anyone, ever, until engagement; not kissing anyone, ever, until marriage; not interacting with other young men and women, etc. does not result (for most people) in a lifetime of monogamous marital bliss.

I am not defending JB and Michelle -- I think they are vile humans and parents BUT many many people all over the world don't touch anyone until engagement, don't kiss until their wedding date, and only have same sex friends. This happens in almost every orthodox Muslim and Jewish community that I know of including many in the U.S. Yet they do not end up molesting their sisters or having affairs; I'm sure some do have affairs, but I don't have any reason to believe that the incidence is any higher than in the general population.

 

Beyond the "rules" re touching and kissing and friendship, I think what has effed up the kids more than anything else is their extreme isolation. In those orthodox communities, you may be going to an all boys or all girls school, never having a boyfriend/girlfriend, not kissing or having sex until marriage BUT you do get out of the house and you do have same sex friends. It's through those friend interactions that you indirectly learn a lot of right and wrong -- not just through your parents beating you over the head with their beliefs. By denying their kids that socialization and completely isolating them, it's like Josh lost all sense of what's right or wrong and lost all sense of the fact that he is no better than anyone else so yes -- he can get caught up in a scandal if he cheats on his wife just like Joe Schmoe down the street will get caught if he cheats.

[CofCinci]

Not even gonna feel sorry for his wife who is a grown ass woman and can leave him anytime. But she won't.

Anna can have her own wet bar, just like Meri.

[cereality]

I wonder how the leg humpters will explain this away.

I haven't been on this website in recent weeks (and I come back to find this!) -- how did the leg humpers explain away molesting his sisters? What possible justification was there -- or was it -- the media/authorities got it all wrong, that's not what happened.

[JoanArc]

 

Question for everyone:  Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid?  I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

 I don't know. I think it's entirely possible he met a woman/women through sites other than AM. Hell, Craigslist is free, hookers are cheap, and every strip club can get a man sex and drugs. I'd have a hard time believing he didn't get any SOMEWHERE. It's too pathetic to admit you TRIED to have an affair, but no one would have you.

[Italian Ice]

Someone on Twitter made a fake OkCupid profile, and these are the answers that matched up with Josh' account. It has to be him.

[cereality]

Except, according to the haxxorz, well over 90% of the users of that site were men, so if that was Josh's account, he may never have actually connected with a woman.

But what about the affair guarantee? He was paying extra to make sure he did hook up in a few months -- do you really thinking he was paying it and it was getting refunded every month bc the website couldn't connect him with a woman? I doubt it -- at that point he would have started signing up on other websites.

[Rane]

Saw this on twitter

 

http://twitter.com/live2tivo/status/634165473131765760/photo/1

 

Tally Deushane ‏@live2tivo  32m32 minutes ago
If anyone is curious, I made a fake OKCupid to see Josh Duggar's answers to compatibility questions.

 

 

Edited August 20, 2015 by Rane

[merriebreeze]

The Josh Duggar Ashley Madison account has to be bogus. He's not that stoopid, people. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

He also lists that he's a college graduate!!!! LOL

Hahahaha!!!

Thank goodness they didn't name the baby Madison!!!!

Hahahaha again!!!!

joesmithsonwa and I have only answered three overlapping questions, shots of which I've uploaded here: http://imgur.com/a/1UkMy(only includes his answers - mine are the opposite)

If you don't want to click over, here's the text:

Do you think it is possible for someone to be an Atheist and still have a solid moral framework by which to live?

No.

Do you feel there are any circumstances in which a person is obligated to have sex with you?

Yes

How do you feel about government-subsidized food programs (free lunch, food stamps, etc.)?

Never – Get a job

Fuck you, Josh. I'm non-religious and I've never cheated on my husband, who I've been with since I was 18 (not married until 25). Maybe your weird religious framework allows for cheating on your nearly-constantly pregnant wife who's stuck at home caring for and educating your kids, but my non-religious moral framework doesn't allow for that sort of thing.

And double fuck you for thinking you're entitled to sex in any circumstances and that you have zero empathy for hungry kids.

I do feel awful for Anna and his kids. I'm expecting Anna to say that when the scandal broke in May, he came clean about this (and deleted/cancelled his AM account) and she knows and forgives him. Anna, you don't deserve this! Leave his ass!

Edited August 20, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[KittyS]

Whether people want to admit it or not. The absolute humiliation and degradation and the complete joy and jollies people are having over this could also say something about the "so called" people of tolerance. Dental work, holding a baby, weight, food placement, clothing, friends, etc.. etc.. sigh and etc.. All things that have nothing to do with their beliefs are dissected and frothed over like rabid dogs at a kitten farm. For pages and pages of derps..  What the hell do people expect to happen to children raised the way they were? We open our arms to ahemm.. well.. other people not so accepted by society and are the loudest in saying how they deserve a chance, and look at where they came from.. Josh is a prick, for sure. I still blame his parents. Dollars to fucking doughnuts if it were a a young man or woman raised just as fucked up, but under a different umm belief system. The reactions would be much different.

You know this is a SNARK site, right?

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

The Josh Duggar Ashley Madison account has to be bogus. He's not that stoopid, people.

Oh, he totally is. I believe it. And I can't wait until women he's encountered via the site start talking and talking....

I'm hoping to hear he used condoms with these women (which of course would be the smart thing to do, but the idea of a Duggar using birth control!) or even better....that Josh was interested in a threesome with two chicks.

Edited August 20, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Fabricationary]

 I wonder how an "oops" baby would be treated by the fundy world-isn't every child a blessing?

 

Maybe he's just trying to inflate his child count.  Weren't Boob and J'Chelle already past 4 kids at his age?

[sleekandchic]

Omg...wowz...holy guacomole.....and Jesus take the wheel!

For godsakes. If these Duggarites allowed their kids to be normal, to date, to go to school, to have friends and sports, music or dance, exposure to the world, etc, the possibilities of Ashley Madison and the sister-molestations would be greatly diminished.

My huge family is joint Lutheran and Church of Sweden. We were all raised in the faith and taught the importance, the supremacy, of the Golden Rule, service to others, openness of heart and mind.

I'm the oldest @ 32 of 8 siblings. Our parents and grams gave us our fundamental beliefs and morals, then trusted us to live our lives with moral purpose and dedication.

The elder Duggars dont trust their kids. Why is that? Do they not trust THEMSELVES? They created this toxic atmosphere that ultimately creates a Josh. Now he has a wife and four kids. All victims of collateral damage. Awful, tragic, self-perpetuating. Its gonna take enormous wherewithal and time for this current generation to make U turns.

Edited August 20, 2015 by sleekandchic

[Ripley68]

If this is true, I don't see how they can say it was because Anna wasn't accomodating or willing.  Watch the videos, you know she wanted it and was giving it whenever he wanted.  One of their teachings is that the woman be pleased as well, and that the woman do what the man likes.  I don't see this has being a "not getting what I need at home."  If he did do this, it's more a, "I'm a horndog asshole."

 

Gee, why am I not surprised more men are on the site than women. Though I heard it was more 60/40

[Sew Sumi]

Perhaps she did find out and that's why this was put into Prissy's vows? Maybe she found out and he told her it was a one time thing?

These accounts post-dated the Fabulous Waller Wedding. 

[Wellfleet]

All in favor of this thread say aye.

 

Aye!

[CofCinci]

And I can't wait until women he's encountered via the site start talking and talking....

I don't think any of the women will talk.  He most likely slept with older, established DC women who aren't going to trash their lives to make $6,000 from InTouch or $1,300 from TMZ.

[SoSueMe]

I don't know. I think it's entirely possible he met a woman/women through sites other than AM. Hell, Craigslist is free, hookers are cheap, and every strip club can get a man sex and drugs. I'd have a hard time believing he didn't get any SOMEWHERE. It's too pathetic to admit you TRIED to have an affair, but no one would have you.

I don't know. That would be hard to keep under wraps after the scandal broke. And if he was paying someone for their silence the family (at least JB) would have to be helping. Even JB can't be so dumb as to keep trying to be visible and high profile under that circumstance.

[TeeMo]

As disgusting as all of this is in general, I find myself even more enraged thinking about how he would have been repeatedly leaving Anna alone with all of his blessings to run around and sleep with other people. 

[whydoiwatch]

Arrogance and ignorance - not a good combination. No sympathy from me. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

As disgusting as all of this is in general, I find myself even more enraged thinking about how he would have been repeatedly leaving Anna alone with all of his blessings to run around and sleep with other people.

Me too.

[farmgal4]

I asked this question in the media thread, but it really belonged here:

If Josh had an affair, he'd be smart enough to wear a condom, wouldn't he??

I don't think any of the women will talk.  He most likely slept with older, established DC women who aren't going to trash their lives to make $6,000 from InTouch or $1,300 from TMZ.

Unless one of them turns up pregnant.

[JoanArc]

I don't know. That would be hard to keep under wraps after the scandal broke. And if he was paying someone for their silence the family (at least JB) would have to be helping. Even JB can't be so dumb as to keep trying to be visible and high profile under that circumstance.

True, but it's not hard to have anonymous sex, and Josh wasn't THAT recognizable, or important to most people. He could have easily pain for some sex. Sex workers aren't exactly the Duggar's demo. Heck, if some lone woman randomly went to the tabloids claiming sex, I doubt they'd print it. No evidence. I could say I had sex with Chris Pratt in a back alley, for $20...do you think anyone would believe me?

 

Unrelated, but - fake Josh profile guy's shirt reads This Will End In Blood. Yikes. I'm sure Josh is really into Metallica.

 

 

Unless one of them turns up pregnant.

 

Or....the big A.

Edited August 20, 2015 by JoanArc

[MarysWetBar]

I asked this question in the media thread, but it really belonged here:

If Josh had an affair, he'd be smart enough to wear a condom, wouldn't he??

Absolutely. He would cover the sliver to refrain from adding to the quiver.

GOTHARD Book 1 Verse 4

Edited August 20, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[SoSueMe]

I asked this question in the media thread, but it really belonged here:

If Josh had an affair, he'd be smart enough to wear a condom, wouldn't he??

Sure if he convinced himself it was only for disease prevention. And all those scarlet women would have been crawling with disease, doncha know.

Edited August 20, 2015 by SoSueMe

[redlaces]

Guys.. I'm not referring to color. I am referring to religion. I'm not trying to "show" anyone or anything like that. I am an agnostic, lesbian, who does not agree with pretty much any of their beliefs. My point is, that, the Duggar children under Boob and Michelle were "raised" and so completely sheltered from any type of normal human feelings, that this is par for the course. Of course he is going to go out and stand up against gay marriage, that's the simple easy thing for people of their mind set to do in this day and age.. Abortion, gay marriage, and now we're getting into the whole trans situation.. It's all they know.. You can point out the hypocrisy in their Bible to them all day long, but, it still won't matter. It's ingrained, and from what has been so strongly insinuated, beat into them.. Of course, once you reach a certain age, you need to grow the hell up, explore, and discover your own self. I just honestly don't think Josh has ever had that chance. There are too many layers in this fucked up cake to dry and cut open and figure out. My main point stands.. I blame Jim and Michelle. They had a chance. They had a life. They totally deprived their children of such. So fuck them. 

[kalamac]

Hopefully any woman he hooked up with would insist on condoms. Unless his whole pitch was "I've only ever been with my wife, so I'm not a risk". That would presume the woman was using other forms of birth control, or didn't mind maybe getting knocked up.

Edited August 20, 2015 by kalamac

[CofCinci]

As disgusting as all of this is in general, I find myself even more enraged thinking about how he would have been repeatedly leaving Anna alone with all of his blessings to run around and sleep with other people. 

Can you imagine all the excuses he came up with?  Eventually his excuses scrapped the bottom of the barrel I suppose.

"Honey, the FRC is having an emergency meeting tonight because Blaine cheated on Kurt on an episode of GLEE and we're going to use it against the Gays."

Edited August 20, 2015 by CofCinci

[TaxNerd]

If this is true, I don't see how they can say it was because Anna wasn't accomodating or willing. Watch the videos, you know she wanted it and was giving it whenever he wanted. One of their teachings is that the woman be pleased as well, and that the woman do what the man likes. I don't see this has being a "not getting what I need at home." If he did do this, it's more a, "I'm a horndog asshole."

Gee, why am I not surprised more men are on the site than women. Though I heard it was more 60/40

It doesn't matter how attractive or willing the spouse is, cheaters cheat. Eva Longoria's husband cheated on her, and remember Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley back in the day? He could have cheated then gone home to Anna the same day. Sex often equals power, and I bet his position in DC went to his head.

I heard it was more like 90% plus men, but it doesn't have to be a 50/50 ratio for the men to get something, especially after a multi year period.

[farmgal4]

Oh, he totally is. I believe it. And I can't wait until women he's encountered via the site start talking and talking....

I'm hoping to hear he used condoms with these women (which of course would be the smart thing to do, but the idea of a Duggar using birth control!) or even better....that Josh was interested in a threesome with two chicks.

Dim Boob had better start putting together a 'hush fund' pronto!

[ilovetrashtv]

The Josh Duggar Ashley Madison account has to be bogus. He's not that stoopid, people. 

 

The credit card billing address used to purchase the membership matches up with Grandma Duggar's house in Arkansas. I think he IS that stupid!!

[RazzleberryPie]

What's the age range of the women he sought after?  I'm going to guess the only ones to actually sleep with him were in their 40s.  Cougars.

Not in my 40s yet, but seriously, normal women in their 40s, and especially Cougars, are not going to be turned on by Josh Duggar's fat, pasty, misogynistic, homophobic, cheap ass. I suspect women who want paid are the ones who want him,

 

On the shallow side, I wonder what birth control he used.  The girls must be pissed, they have a people article coming out and once again Josh ruins what should be a big thing for them (damage control on way to tv land).  I really wish I had been a fly on the wall when his parents saw this.  I can't even imagine what is going on in those houses now. Well, I can, but I doubt I'm coming anywhere near the real scene.

 

I suspect he used Zero birth control. That's the woman's responsibility. I can totally see him being one of those 'are you sure it's mine, you have to be lying, I want nothing to do with that kid who looks just like me, you whore.' STDs are for dirty people and homoseckshuls. You can tell by looking at a woman if she's clean. (For Anna's sake, I hope he's STD free. Even if she is a naive, delusional, brainwashed fool, she doesn't deserve an STD).

 

I don't have any sympathy for them either.  The Duggar family was thisclose to getting everything back.  The People magazine cover would have been a test.  The Ashley Madison hack was a wildcard that knocked all their comeback plans for a loop.

*APPLAUDS* Ashley Madison = blessing in disguise for the rest of us.

 

I do feel bad for Anna. I doubt very much that Josh turned to Ashley Madison because she wouldn't loosen up. I think he just found out that whatever he was getting at home wasn't enough for him. That would fit in with the turn-ons list -- he's not looking for something kinky or crazy, he just wants someone. Anyone. 

 

And I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that two people who had never been alone in a room together discovered after they married that their sex drives were incompatible. 

I doubt, too, that Anna wouldn't loosen up. Gothard is ALL FOR sexual pleasure between man and wife. They're told sex with your hetero spouse is the be all, end all, and as long as you're not preventing pregnancy, you can pretty much swing from the ceiling. Josh is just a smug, self-righteous pervert. I seriously think he wanted to see what he could get away with without getting caught. He's just like JimBob in trying to see if he can 'trick' or manipulate everyone, because he seriously thinks he's clever and superior, and no one is sharp enough to figure out that he's a lying liar from Liartown.

 

As for Anna's sex drive - I don't know how she can have ANY kind of drive or energy. She has four kids under five and an idiot husband. 

[farmgal4]

Just a thought: Can you get kicked out of the Gothard cult for bad behavior?

[RazzleberryPie]

The credit card billing address used to purchase the membership matches up with Grandma Duggar's house in Arkansas. I think he IS that stupid!!

He's that stupid and that delusional and narcissistic to think he'll never be caught.

[CofCinci]

Just a thought: Can you get kicked out of the Gothard cult for bad behavior?

Look at Gothard himself.  He molested and sexually harassed girls for years and the dude is still worshiped by these sickos.

[RazzleberryPie]

Just a thought: Can you get kicked out of the Gothard cult for bad behavior?

Depends on how much they value you. Beg for forgiveness and keep buying all the crap, you'll probably be OK. They're not going to admit their system doesn't work.