Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, BetyBee said:

It would be hard to top Spurgeon! 🙄

Maybe if they used Tozer as a first name. Or Henry's middle name Wilberforce. 

[OpieTaylor]

How about they go ALL in and name a boy Joshua JimBob? 🤯

[StaceyNotStacie]

Marigold and Jericho. He/she can be called Goldie or Jerry (or Rico) for short. 

[Joan of Argh]

3 hours ago, BOOgen3 said:

Why and what would a 4 year old child even know about Nazis?

That’s what I’d like to know, what kind of conversations are going on at their house that a 4 yr old knows about Nazis?!?!?

and what’s up with Jessa thinking that kids talking about Nazis is a cute little joke and a source of humour?

of course it’s all bullshit and Jessa made it up just like “Sayings of Spurgeon”  🙄

 

 

 

[satrunrose]

The only slim, slim positive I can pull is that at least the girls are (allegedly) using it in a negative way.

I mean, seriously, I thought the whole point of homeschooling/homechurching was to protect the poor innocent children from the badness of the (liberal) world. 🤨

[Salacious Kitty]

Jessa posted about a dozen #SeewaldKidsSay-ings at the same time last night. There's no way she hadn't heard about the People article, because why else post all that just NOW? 

[auntieminem]

14 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jessa posted about a dozen #SeewaldKidsSay-ings at the same time last night. There's no way she hadn't heard about the People article, because why else post all that just NOW? 

After the pregnancy post on FB she made 16 within 3 hours.  I wonder if she did that accidentally?  Maybe she was putting them all in to publish on different dates. but messed it up and they all posted in real time.  

[CalicoKitty]

26 minutes ago, auntieminem said:

After the pregnancy post on FB she made 16 within 3 hours.  I wonder if she did that accidentally?  Maybe she was putting them all in to publish on different dates. but messed it up and they all posted in real time.  

I think this was totally on purpose.  She needs to get some attention and thinks her posts will distract from Jill.  Not happening.

[GeeGolly]

I don't think Jessa is trying to distract from Jill. I think she's trying to send the message of, look, nothing to see here, we are a (shiny happy) totally intact family, no shame here.

It really doesn't matter, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. But no matter, we all see through their bullshit.

[satrunrose]

And this is why my very favourite fundie posts are the "see how normal we are" ones, because they are unintentionally so much weirder than actual day in the life posts. If Jessa had just kept her big posting finger shut, no one would be particularly asking about the Seawald's take on all this (or at least no more than we're asking about Joy, JD, Joe, Josiah, Jinger etc). Now the internet is a buzz with just how a four-year-old knows to make a more or less in context comment about nazis. 

[GeeGolly]

4 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

And this is why my very favourite fundie posts are the "see how normal we are" ones, because they are unintentionally so much weirder than actual day in the life posts. If Jessa had just kept her big posting finger shut, no one would be particularly asking about the Seawald's take on all this (or at least no more than we're asking about Joy, JD, Joe, Josiah, Jinger etc). Now the internet is a buzz with just how a four-year-old knows to make a more or less in context comment about nazis. 

I know, right?! Their typical is so atypical and they have no idea.

And really most 4 years olds would ask if the phone needed to be charged. Or might ask if the phone is 'sick' with a virus.

I'm nearly 100% certain my children at that age had no knowledge of Nazis.

[TigerLily20]

In all my years of working in the Early Childhood field (23 years now), we have never.......ever.....talked about, taught about, or ever even mentioned Nazi's.....I am quite baffled.  I don't even know if her oldest is really at the age of learning about the history behind Nazi's........

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, CalicoKitty said:

I think this was totally on purpose.  She needs to get some attention and thinks her posts will distract from Jill.  Not happening.

She is one desperate, bitchy try-hard. 

[Tdoc72]

In her latest vid, she mentioned the Truman Show quite a bit. If you don’t know it, it’s about a man that was raised from birth being unknowingly filmed for a reality tv show.

It made me wonder if she realized she’s a bit like Truman. Although she knew she was being filmed, she didn’t have a choice in it. Or is that too deep for her to think about? 

[Dehumidifier]

"What's the meaning of the phrase 'Little pitchers have big ears'?

This proverbial saying means 'be careful, children are listening'."

 "The proverbial saying 'Little pitchers have big ears' is first found in John Heywood's 1546 glossary A Dialogue conteinyng the nomber in effect of all the Prouerbes in the Englishe tongue."

It is entirely possible that the child heard something on the news or heard her parents talking about something in the news. Perhaps Ben was considering this  news story of a week ago as a topic for a sermon:

"98-year-old former Nazi concentration guard has been indicted on charges of aiding and abetting the murder of more than 3,300 people during the Holocaust, German authorities said on Friday."

Not everything children learn is directly taught to them.

 

 

[Zella]

1 hour ago, TigerLily20 said:

In all my years of working in the Early Childhood field (23 years now), we have never.......ever.....talked about, taught about, or ever even mentioned Nazi's.....I am quite baffled.  I don't even know if her oldest is really at the age of learning about the history behind Nazi's........

Yeah I was an odd kid. According to multiple adults. LOL 

And by the time I was 9 or so, I was weirdly fixated on the Romanovs thanks to a kids' book I had. But I don't think the Nazis were on my radar as a historical topic until I was even older than that. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Growing up in California, we were taught about the Japanese internment camps around 4th grade when we also learned about the missions. 

I have no idea when I learned about the Nazis. It certainly wasn't when I was 4. 

[Scarlett45]

So maybe this is me being weird*, but I wouldn’t think it’s weird for a four or five year old to know about Nazis. At that age I knew about them and white supremisits (why can’t I spell that word) groups such as the KKK- but I wouldn’t have joked about it. I would’ve been punished for being disrespectful to the ancestors who died at the hands of those people. 

*or growing up as an ADOS person, kids learn about what prejudice and hate means at an early age. I could certainly see a four year old Jewish or Romani child knowing exactly whom the Nazis were. 
 

What’s MORE WEIRD to me is that Jessa thought it was okay to for him to make that joke, and rather than correcting him, she posts it on social media. 

[ranchgirl]

Did Jessa remove all those post of what the kids said over the summer?  I do not see them. 

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, ranchgirl said:

Did Jessa remove all those post of what the kids said over the summer?  I do not see them. 

They're still there. On FB, not IG.

[ranchgirl]

16 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They're still there. On FB, not IG.

Thank you.  

[AstridM]

2 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

Or is that too deep for her to think about? 

YES. Yes, it is. 

[Minivanessa]

I assume the child said (or tried to say) "nasty germs" - but Jessa just had to go off on that other tangent, making fun of how her tiny child pronounced a word. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Jeeves

[satrunrose]

I wondered that too, although I think that in Jessa's mind the goal is to make her children look brilliant and precocious without realizing it actually makes either the child or the household look pretty messed up. (See the sayings of Spurgeon about marriage and theology). 

[AgathaC]

Well, to be totally fair, I had heard of Nazis at that age. No details and nothing about the Holocaust, of course, but I knew they were bad. Because I was borderline obsessed with Julie Andrews and had The Sound of Music memorized.

I think Jessa and Ben are terrible parents with horrible beliefs, but in this case, maybe their kids watch TSoM? I don’t remember them referring to Nazis as such, but the Swastika is pretty prominent in the later parts of the movie and maybe a kid or two asked who those bad guys were.

[anyasmom]

I loved The Sound of Music in elementary school.  It probably was my first exposure to Nazis.  But would Jessa's kids be allowed to watch a movie with so much Catholicism and pre-marital kissing?  

[lascuba]

On 9/11/2023 at 1:40 PM, BOOgen3 said:

Why and what would a 4 year old child even know about Nazis?

I think it's similar to how young fundie kids talk about the evils of porn. Fundies teach their kids big stories of good and evil without much context.

[Turquoise]

Another idea: I have heard several people refer to others who hold differing opinions on politics or pandemic measures as Nazis. I could see that happening and the girls thinking that was just a term for a Big Bad Meanie...

That is, if that conversation even happened.

[Gemma Violet]

18 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

In her latest vid, she mentioned the Truman Show quite a bit. If you don’t know it, it’s about a man that was raised from birth being unknowingly filmed for a reality tv show.

It made me wonder if she realized she’s a bit like Truman. Although she knew she was being filmed, she didn’t have a choice in it. Or is that too deep for her to think about? 

I think Jinger discussed The Truman Show in her book.  (I remember reading an excerpt where she compared herself to Truman.)  I didn't know Jessa had seen it as well.

[FizzyPuff]

On 9/11/2023 at 6:40 PM, BOOgen3 said:

Why and what would a 4 year old child even know about Nazis?

On Reddit someone commented that Fern probably said nasty not nazi, which makes more sense tbh. 

[ginger90]

Jessa’s answers on Facebook:

“ Because she has big brother who love to watch old war documentaries.”

 

”Because she has two big brothers who like to watch old war documentaries and are fascinated with history.”

[AgathaC]

20 hours ago, Zella said:

Yeah I was an odd kid. According to multiple adults. LOL 

And by the time I was 9 or so, I was weirdly fixated on the Romanovs thanks to a kids' book I had. But I don't think the Nazis were on my radar as a historical topic until I was even older than that. 

@Zella, I was obsessed with the Romanovs, too! Admittedly, I was a little older (14 or so), but I had a surprisingly detailed knowledge of Russian history. And I trained my 2-year-old sister to recite the children’s names in birth order.

So, the boys watch war documentaries. I was a history major in college, so part of me is pleased that young kids show an interest. Yet, at the same time, I’m not so pleased because, considering the environment in which they’re being raised, I suspect they’ll grow up with a twisted view of the past.

[Salacious Kitty]

36 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Jessa’s answers on Facebook:

“ Because she has big brother who love to watch old war documentaries.”

 

”Because she has two big brothers who like to watch old war documentaries and are fascinated with history.”

Sure Jan. 🙄

[oliviabenson]

Truman for a boy!

[andromeda331]

9 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Jessa’s answers on Facebook:

“ Because she has big brother who love to watch old war documentaries.”

 

”Because she has two big brothers who like to watch old war documentaries and are fascinated with history.”

If she had said war movies I might believe that. My brother at those ages loved war movies. The fighting, the blood, explosions, and stuff. I think the first time we heard about Nazis was watching Indiana Jones movies. The full scale of how bad we didn't learn until middle school.  

[Salacious Kitty]

10 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

If she had said war movies I might believe that. My brother at those ages loved war movies. The fighting, the blood, explosions, and stuff. I think the first time we heard about Nazis was watching Indiana Jones movies. The full scale of how bad we didn't learn until middle school.  

Which is age appropriate for true understanding of what the Nazis did. 

I understood racism when I was maybe 7, but I didn't understand slavery or the civil rights struggles of the 60s, aside from the assassination of MLK. I learned those details later. 

[GeeGolly]

My question is, do any of the Duggar kidults know this for sure? They were indoctrinated. Can they really separate what beliefs and behaviors are IBLP except for maybe a few obvious ones? Jessa, Jill and Joy have said they try to emulate Michelle's parenting. Michelle parented following the Pearl's and Gothard's rules.

[Madtown]

Jessa showing us she trims her hair once a year(with a kids scissors). She has a hairstylist put in layers, whenever she gets around to making an appointment.

 

[Zella]

Oh, Jessa, nobody cares about your rat's nest hair when your sister is talking about your dad's probable tax evasion. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Deflect deflect deflect!!!

[AstridM]

A “hankerin?” She really makes me want to punch her, lol. She is THE WORST. 

[Stevie Nicks]

"Chop some length off".. Sure. Some length would be 12 inches. Not a small trim. 

 

[lascuba]

13 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

My question is, do any of the Duggar kidults know this for sure? They were indoctrinated. Can they really separate what beliefs and behaviors are IBLP except for maybe a few obvious ones? Jessa, Jill and Joy have said they try to emulate Michelle's parenting. Michelle parented following the Pearl's and Gothard's rules.

I think that few, if any, of them them follow Gothard/IBLP, but there's so many habits they picked up from their upbringing that they wouldn't know are specific to IBLP. Michelle and JB had the zeal of new converts so they studied what Gothard said and incorporated those principles into their day-to-day. All that stuff that Michelle had to learn was just normal life for the kids. I doubt they were taught that all that stuff was Gothard specific rather than " this is what we do because we love Jesus."

[GeeGolly]

12 minutes ago, lascuba said:

I think that few, if any, of them them follow Gothard/IBLP, but there's so many habits they picked up from their upbringing that they wouldn't know are specific to IBLP. Michelle and JB had the zeal of new converts so they studied what Gothard said and incorporated those principles into their day-to-day. All that stuff that Michelle had to learn was just normal life for the kids. I doubt they were taught that all that stuff was Gothard specific rather than " this is what we do because we love Jesus."

My thoughts exactly.

[sagittarius sue]

15 hours ago, Stevie Nicks said:

"Chop some length off".. Sure. Some length would be 12 inches. Not a small trim. 

 

I'd favor around an 18 inch cut.

[Joan of Argh]

I wonder how much longer Spurge will want to ride through the neighbourhood like a baby buggy… he’s almost 8.. 🧐

Edited September 20, 2023 by Joan of Argh
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[ginger90]

3 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I wonder how much longer Spurge will want to ride through the neighbourhood like a baby buggy… he’s almost 8.. 🧐

Nice ad, and a whole 10% off.

[GeeGolly]

That wagon is packed almost as tight as Ben's shorts.

[Joan of Argh]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

That wagon is packed almost as tight as Ben's shorts.

Too funny!  😂

Ben is waving to neighbours like he’s in a parade!! 🤡🤠

[AstridM]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

That wagon is packed almost as tight as Ben's shorts.

Nike!