S08.E16: The Countess Bride

[biakbiak]

I know a bunch of parents who would gladly pay someone to potty train their kid.

During Carole and Adam's conversation I became convinced that they had already broken up! I am sure IG disproves this theory but that was the vibe I got.

[Almost 3000]

8 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

I know a bunch of parents who would gladly pay someone to potty train their kid.

During Carole and Adam's conversation I became convinced that they had already broken up! I am sure IG disproves this theory but that was the vibe I got.

I think she's his NYC girlfriend but he travels a lot and does start ups in foreign countries and I'm sure he has pals that hang with him while away. Oddly similar to Lu and the Count. Just my guess.

[Trooper York]

Wait I didn't get to see this yet.

Is it true that Carole paid someone to potty train Adam?

[zoeysmom]

I thought Adam wise for his years not to commit to a lifetime of being tied to Carole through a book.  He may decide to marry someday and his wife not really want Carole in the picture. An example learned perhaps from maintaining a relationship with Nicole Nadeau and his charity.

[breezy424]

But isn't kind of sad when someone says 'if' we're together next year?  It's like we know we're not forever so let's enjoy each other for now.  I wouldn't want to be in that place. 

[beesknees]

6 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

But isn't kind of sad when someone says 'if' we're together next year?  It's like we know we're not forever so let's enjoy each other for now.  I wouldn't want to be in that place. 

Right?  I don't care how cool Carole is trying to portray the situation.  It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I would also hate to put myself in a situation like that.

[Edie Wharton]

A highlight for me: the sales clerk at the boutique visited by Ramona and Sonia. When she interacted directly with them she had a lovely smile. When R and S were chatting alone together, the editors threw in a scene of the clerk walking past looking absolutely disgusted.  It was fast and funny. 

[biakbiak]

Oh I forgot to point out that the woman who declared she couldn't have Sonja on the Mexico trip because her partners were very serious about responsible alcohol use made a joke about doing alcohol enemas and it not working and was only buzzed to a level 5.

[movingtargetgal]

The $2000 48 hour potty trainer is not there to train the child she is there to train Jules.  She is training Jules on this aspect of parenting.  She is the Super Nanny of potty training.

Edited July 21, 2016 by movingtargetgal

[CrinkleCutCat]

This episode was a bit of a snooze fest...

[Atwood]

I haven't seen the episode yet (Bravo, put that episode up, stat!), but Sonja is not wrong that eight carats is new rich tacky. Or want-to-seem-richer-than-they-are, considering the clarity issues. Not quite as tacky as declaring your friend's engagement ring "nouveau", but still...

Clue number two that he's not as rich as they're trying to paint him: they're doing a veeeery long engagement for such a short courtship. You know, so that they can get married in time for filming, thereby maximizing the amount of publicity they both get out of the deal, and minimizing the amount of money they have to pay for it. Come on, if a guy was as rich (and uninterested in RHONY fame) as all that, and they are so in love that they couldn't wait a bit longer to get engaged, he'd spring for a summer wedding himself. 

Edited July 21, 2016 by Atwood

[MadLove]

5 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Yeah, that was one cloudy diamond.  Reminded me of my reaction, which I was not proud of, when an acquaintance got engaged and was flashing this ring and I said to some friends, that is not a real diamond.  It was big but had no fire in it at all.  Fast forward a few months and the wedding never happened and lo and behold, she found out it was a cz.

When I hear Moaner's tag line this year, I have this internal conversation where I say - Ramona, wines get better with AGE not time but of course you don't want to say age - and then I can hear her crazy voice in my head rambling about how time and age are the same thing etc.. I need a life, apparently. 

Thank you. Ramona's tagline has been driving me fucking nuts for 16? episodes now.Her stupidity never ceases to amaze me but I don't want to "Make a mountain out of a holemill" (Season Two) She's such an idiot.

[Jade Foxx]

33 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

This episode was a bit of a snooze fest...

Sonja gave me life when she trotted out her famous "smokey eye, updo, and Staad" line. She's a loon and I love her for it!

[film noire]

Jesus, Sonja, check yourself -- there's nothing more nouveau than labeling something nouveau. Old school nouveauing is done with a raised eyebrow to a fellow member of your snotty little upper caste (the three girls you went through Spence or Trinity with) and not comments dripping with no self awareness and unowned jealousy + VERY odd things happening to your lower cheeks ("Fillers", film noire said -- raising an eyebrow in the direction of the posters she went through TWOP with -- "Murky fillers.") 

Jules and the potty training: we're meant to be impressed, I guess, but pfft -- we could easily raise two grand to pay somebody to train Bethenny's potty mouth.

Luann -- oh yes, how you rolled into that place! -- all Tupac looking for Biggie (but Biggie was bleeding and off with her daughter) and please keep shoving that diamond as big as the Ritz into their panicked faces. ("But how did Luann pull this off when we have all fucked Tom? T'is witchcraft! We must build the Wicker Luann and burn her!")  Your ring may be the colour of the piss Beth left in her Wedding Bucket but who cares? GAME ON (even with your conflicting "Let me paint the scene" flow chart presentation of the proposal, which might make a lesser woman pause, but not you -- "I have one description of the proposal and a picture that does not match that story -- AND BITCHES? I  DON'T CARE!!!") Ditch that heart Carole gave you (it's her own,  crystallizing as she watched Adam count past his fingers and toes to twelve, and then immediately start planning his exit.)

Boringly barely there Dorinda and Ramona: vote your conscience because your word is your bond and here's your damn rickroll.
 

Edited July 21, 2016 by film noire

[CrinkleCutCat]

1 hour ago, Jade Foxx said:

Sonja gave me life when she trotted out her famous "smokey eye, updo, and Staad" line. She's a loon and I love her for it!

I love Sonja with a j, but I thought that was a bit too cute... Using her own phrase again and trying to get the same attention she got on social media (esp. here) for using that phrase.

Edited July 21, 2016 by CrinkleCutCat
Removing a pesky extra word.

[charmed1]

6 hours ago, 100PercentPain said:

Carole's scene with Adam was awkward to watch. I can't put my finger on why, but it was. Might have been Carole's incessant trying-to-be-cool-and-casual-but-really-lowkey-hoping-for-any-sign-that-Adam-expects-to-be-with-her-in-a-year cutesy talk. Might have been the total uncertainty about whether or not they'll be dating in a year. I'm not sure. 

I couldn't take hearing, "Adam and I." And Adam's voice sounds like if Bill and Ted had nasal infections.

[SuzWhat]

I fast forwarded thru the Jules/potty training scene.  Damn it.  Now I have to hate watch it.  

[Ellee]

I'm so out of the loop.  Did LuLu's engagement happen in 2015 and she got married already or 2016 with the marriage for NY's 2017?

I've never had children but I would think that even a 'rich person' would keep the $2000 and train their own children to go potty on the pot.

And, Dorinda.....again, out of the loop, but is she orchestrating the story lines and essentially taking over direction of every scene she's in?

Edited July 21, 2016 by Ellee

[njbchlover]

7 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Because Bethenny went to bed early! LOL

And Sonja wasn't drinking!    ;-)

[tinaw]

Where do I sign  up to potty train kids? $2000 for 48 hours is insane. I wonder how many kids the woman has potty trained

Its pretty sad though that Jules can't even potty train her own child.

Andy if you are reading this; No more bathroom stories ever again. Enough with the poop. Sincerely Everyone

[Knuckles]

7 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Why would anybody want to show an innocent child's potty issues on TV?

I promise you that before that child finishes middle school, the other kids will be trolling her with videos of her on the toilet. Really, do these folks not remember anything about being a kid?  has Jules no instinct to protect her child?

[njbchlover]

7 hours ago, breezy424 said:

It's amazing what a person can overcome when they can demonstrate how great they are at something. 

Bethenny annoys the hell out of me, but that headstand with the splits in the air was pretty freakin' impressive.  

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, Edie Wharton said:

A highlight for me: the sales clerk at the boutique visited by Ramona and Sonia. When she interacted directly with them she had a lovely smile. When R and S were chatting alone together, the editors threw in a scene of the clerk walking past looking absolutely disgusted.  It was fast and funny. 

I caught that too~~I think she was worried about that fur jacket that Ramona was trying on.  Ramona even commented something about maybe they'll think I already own it and I can just walk out (or something like that)...I was thinking "Ummm, no, Ramona - that store is not Bethenny's talk show studio!"    ;-)

Edited July 21, 2016 by njbchlover

[biakbiak]

10 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Bethenny annoys the hell out of me, but that headstand with the splits in the air was pretty freakin' impressive.  

It totally reminded me of Ladies of London which is probably the first and last time that phrase has ever been typed.

[HunterHunted]

7 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Bravo likes all kinds of potty.  Be it dog, kids or Bethenny's. There was another show on Bravo and the woman (mother of three with one on the way) used someone to help.  She was full of good ideas.  (There Goes the Motherhood) 

Half of the storylines on the Real Housewives of Dallas were about poop: a poop hat, poop jokes, pooping in a bag or a basket, gossiping about poop.

[zoeysmom]

13 minutes ago, Knuckles said:

I promise you that before that child finishes middle school, the other kids will be trolling her with videos of her on the toilet. Really, do these folks not remember anything about being a kid?  has Jules no instinct to protect her child?

This is kind of weird-the quote you responded to wasn't mine.  I answered the question did not pose it. 

[ghoulina]

I loved Dorinda's bit about being a "Catholic gambler". As someone who was raised Catholic, I totally got that! 

And, in case we all forgot, Jules had to show us what a Jewish gambler is like. Let's all stop for a minute and bless the table. 

Carole really turned me off when she was comparing her relationship with Adam to all the other ladies' relationships. "Ramona got dumped after 25 years, Dorinda barely sees her long time boyfriend, but we're so awesome!" Y'all have been together a year. You're in no place to compare. You're still in the easy, lovey-dovey phase. And judging from the apprehension on Adam's face, he wants to get out of there as soon as the book is sold. 

Someone needs to give Ramona a textervention. She thinks everything can be solved via text!!!! First she was making all the ladies apologize to each other via text (in the same house!); now she thinks it's appropriate to text Lu's fiance when Lu deigns not to respond to Ramona immediately. Good grief. 

Did Dorinda really straight up tell the waitress/hostess at that restaurant that she was going to take some Splenda since she was running low at home??? Have you never heard of a grocery store? Who does that??? I'll tell you who - Ramona. Wow. I hope she tipped really really well. 

I need to know just WHAT Jagger is watching on Youtube that's got him saying that his sister is "peeing out her asshole". 

Also, it must be nice to have $2000 to drop on potty training your kid. Jules might want to offer $4000, though, so she can finally figure out how to wipe herself. 

 

Overall, I enjoyed this episode. Lots of light, fun stuff to snark on. Not a TON of drama. Of course, they're still going on about Lu and Tom and Ramona and Sonja. Just stop already. Lu isn't mad because you have both dated/slept with him, she's mad because you won't stop talking about it!!! Let her be happy for crying out loud. I think Lu is fully aware that Tom was a bit of player before her. Hell, she was pretty damn wild herself. For whatever reason, something clicked with them and they want to get serious. Who is anyone to judge? Oh, I'll tell you who. Bitter, jealous hags - party of 2. Normally, I hate the immediate need to label a woman's actions as "jealous", but I really do think that's what's going on here. They were 3 divorces, running around NY, and Lu has quickly decided to go and settle. Before them. And with a guy that (in their minds) THEY might have had a chance of nabbing. Now Lu is living in the penthouse and they're both still alone. It's ugly, but that's what it is, most likely. 

[Knuckles]

2 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

This is kind of weird-the quote you responded to wasn't mine. 

I'm sorry, now I'm confused. I was just stating that I am still stunned by the crassness of the potty training being shown on television. I did not think I was directly responding to anyone, just posting in the flow. I should not post before I have had enough coffee..sorry for any confusion I have caused.

[zoeysmom]

4 hours ago, Atwood said:

I haven't seen the episode yet (Bravo, put that episode up, stat!), but Sonja is not wrong that eight carats is new rich tacky. Or want-to-seem-richer-than-they-are, considering the clarity issues. Not quite as tacky as declaring your friend's engagement ring "nouveau", but still...

Clue number two that he's not as rich as they're trying to paint him: they're doing a veeeery long engagement for such a short courtship. You know, so that they can get married in time for filming, thereby maximizing the amount of publicity they both get out of the deal, and minimizing the amount of money they have to pay for it. Come on, if a guy was as rich (and uninterested in RHONY fame) as all that, and they are so in love that they couldn't wait a bit longer to get engaged, he'd spring for a summer wedding himself. 

:Luann and Tom are getting married on New Years' Eve, for the following reasons:  Luann eloped the first time and she wants a big wedding (three outfit changes), it is Tom's 50th birthday, it is a fairly big wedding (for a destination wedding) of over 200 people, the obvious it is NYE they can have the wedding and guests can stay or move on to another party.  I don't think it would matter when they got married for filming purposes (usually they don't film on actual holidays), if they want to film the wedding they will.  Judging by next week's clip it looks like the guest list of RH is getting shorter and shorter.  It did include Sonja and Dorinda (who is in the wedding), I am thinking Sonja should maybe book another NYE gig.

 

5 minutes ago, Knuckles said:

I'm sorry, now I'm confused. I was just stating that I am still stunned by the crassness of the potty training being shown on television. I did not think I was directly responding to anyone, just posting in the flow. I should not post before I have had enough coffee..sorry for any confusion I have caused.

Oh no problem, I was curious how my I showed up in the quote, since I had answered the question not posed it. 

[Ellee]

8 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

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Someone needs to give Ramona a textervention. She thinks everything can be solved via text!!!! First she was making all the ladies apologize to each other via text (in the same house!); now she thinks it's appropriate to text Lu's fiance when Lu deigns not to respond to Ramona immediately. Good grief. 

snip

I think Ramona texting Lu's fiance was just so WE would know that Ramona has Tom's phone number.  It's hard to trump Sonja's friends with benefits for 10 years but at least we know Ramona has his phone number.  Lol.

[biakbiak]

Anyone else curious if the snow boots they showed for Brynn were the ones from Kmart that got a bunch of people calling out Bethenny for being racist?

Edited July 21, 2016 by biakbiak

[movingtargetgal]

32 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Did Dorinda really straight up tell the waitress/hostess at that restaurant that she was going to take some Splenda since she was running low at home??? Have you never heard of a grocery store? Who does that??? I'll tell you who - Ramona. Wow. I hope she tipped really really well. 

My father in law used to take extra packets of Equal when he got his daily coffee at Dunkin Doughnts.  He did not use any sweetener, but he took two packet with each cup.  Two cups a day, 7 days a week  those packets added up.  He would present at least 2 Cool Whip containters full of sweetner  every time we went out west to visit him.  He was so proud when he gave them to us, not only was he "helping us out" he was getting one over on Dunkin Doughnuts because they charged "so damn much for a simple cup of coffee."  I really miss him.

[SCS]

10 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

  And didn't Slade recycle a yellow "diamond" among several of his Housewives?

 

And didn't Joe give Teresa a ring with a large yellow rock in one of the earlier episodes in NJ? Maybe that "gemstone" is bi-coastal.

[ghoulina]

37 minutes ago, Ellee said:

I think Ramona texting Lu's fiance was just so WE would know that Ramona has Tom's phone number.  It's hard to trump Sonja's friends with benefits for 10 years but at least we know Ramona has his phone number.  Lol.

Oh, I absolutely agree. She also made sure to mention to Sonja that it wasn't weird for her to text Tom, since they have texted each other plenty in the past. 

 

10 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Anyone else curious if the snow boots they showed for Brynn were the ones from Kmart that got a bunch of people calling out Bethenny for being racist?

Wait, what? Now you've piqued my interest. What is this about racist snow boots???

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

 

 

Wait, what? Now you've piqued my interest. What is this about racist snow boots???

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/bethenny-frankel-rants-about-kmart-workers-they-speak-no-english-w162364  Snow boot story

[biakbiak]

4 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Oh, I absolutely agree. She also made sure to mention to Sonja that it wasn't weird for her to text Tom, since they have texted each other plenty in the past. 

 

Wait, what? Now you've piqued my interest. What is this about racist snow boots???

Bethenny, Kmart, boots, racism!

[trimthatfat]

As far as the "if we're together next year" conversation goes, I think Carole is well aware of the fact that Adam could find someone closer to his age that he can grow with - someone to possibly marry, have a child with, purchase a first home with, etc. (if that's what he wants). I think Carole is hoping Adam will stick around, but the odds are stacked against them. No offense to her, but Adam does have the upperhand. Carole has more to lose if the relationship ends than Adam.

Luann's ring does look a little cloudy, but I love a canary yellow stone. After seeing an article about celebrity engagement rings, I realize that some prefer big stone regardless of clarity. I don't get that. I'd rather a smaller stone with superior clarity.

[abbottrabbit]

I was so confused when the second "act" started and it was in Carole's living room rather than still at Mohegan Sun. I was convinced I must have FF'd too far and skipped the rest of the casino trip. Did they seriously only go overnight? 

And what happened to the Hawaii trip? Did Dorinda actually plan it just so LuAnn could roll into the party and immediately shoot the idea down? 

Sonja's green eyed monster was on full fucking display, but... I love a good yellow diamond. LuAnn's ring is .... special to her, I'm sure. 

And I'm apparently going out on this limb alone here, but I thought it was pretty clear that Jules was kidding when she asked the woman about how to wipe? It came RIGHT AFTER the clip where she asked her to teach Rio to light a match when she pooped because Rio "ripped 'em" like an adult man. There was even a talking head between the two where she said if she was going to pay $2000 for a potty consultant, she was at least going to have some fun with her. 

Now that said: paying $2000 for a potty consultant is clearly a massive waste of money, but do you really think Jules has been wandering around with staff infections of a personal nature for the last 30+ years because she wiped the poo forward? Come on. 

[rhygirl720]

Dear Sonja, throwing shade at Lu's ring was not cool. Your Lady Morgan days are long gone and you were not to the manor born.  Lu had your back when the rest of this harpies were coming for you. Whatever arrangement you and Tom had it's over... Move on. Nobody cares or is impressed.

Lu is living large. The way she walked into that engagement party straight up OG. Luanne has proven she is willing and able to  take on anyone even Bethany. So Sonja take a seat your outmatched and your slip is showing.

[SweetieDarling]

I think I figured out what it is Adam sees in Carole.  She has good weed.  Could he have been any more stoned in that scene?

[StevieRocks]

Oh, my gosh, it was fun to watch these menopausal hags snarl through gritted teeth and pursed lips that they are "oh so HAPPY for LuAnn!" Bwaaah! Lord, I thought a couple of them were going to give themselves aneurisms.

Edited July 21, 2016 by StevieRocks

[StevieRocks]

Kadooz to Dorinda for shutting down Crazy Eyes on her ignorant and ridiculous party for LuAnn. God, Crazy Eyes is so desperate and embarrassing in every scene. I don't know how someone so illiterate and socially awkward has been able to function on earth for the past 70 years of her useless and meaningless life. She came in barking and squawking to the wine restaurant looking like a pig from the Jerry Springer show, and the waiter did not look amused. Yuck.

[bosawks]

24 minutes ago, abbottrabbit said:

 And I'm apparently going out on this limb alone here, but I thought it was pretty clear that Jules was kidding when she asked the woman about how to wipe? It came RIGHT AFTER the clip where she asked her to teach Rio to light a match when she pooped because Rio "ripped 'em" like an adult man. There was even a talking head between the two where she said if she was going to pay $2000 for a potty consultant, she was at least going to have some fun with her. 

Now that said: paying $2000 for a potty consultant is clearly a massive waste of money, but do you really think Jules has been wandering around with staff infections of a personal nature for the last 30+ years because she wiped the poo forward? Come on. 

I'm with you and Jules knowing all about asswipes, she married Michael after all.......

[OFDgal]

Luann was so happy about the engagement that I found myself smiling, feeling happy for her. I usually get a kick out of Sonja but acted like a jealous bitch.  I agree with the above poster who said that Sonja is upset because she didn't think Tom was the marrying kind and then Luann swooped in and proved otherwise.  Carol should stop trying so hard with Adam.  Their scenes are so awkward that I cringe watching them.  He is so stoned that his mind works in slow motion. 

[Baltimore Betty]

$2000 for potty training? That is throwing money down the toilet, literally.

I floved the scene of Sonja and Ramona dancing at Mohegan Sun all alone with glow sticks, comedy gold.

Ramona showed up at the Black Barn first as if she was hosting that engagement party, interesting.  When they showed the conversation between Dorinda and Lu via phone Lu never said she didn't want Ramona to throw the party it was Dorinda who steered that conversation.

[StevieRocks]

God in Heaven. Will Crazy Eyes ever shut her ancient maw? I'm glad that LuAnn called her out for barking up when she was trying to give the toast. Moaner has the most atrocious manners I've ever seen. 

[Baltimore Betty]

And one more snark, every time somebody tells me they so wild and kooky (looking at Sonja) turns out they really aren't, Sonja was selling the wild and kooky so hard,  truth is without the excuse of booze she is not so wild or kooky, just delusional about her current life now, Staad is a thing of the past.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

What's that Bethenny?? You never had ski lessons?  She was in Las Vegas, and the racetrack.

OK then:  Bethenny on a teen ski trip photo . Poor little match girl. Never learned to ski. HA.

She also describes a ski trip to Lake Tahoe with her biological father in the book "A Place of Yes."

[StevieRocks]

On a positive note, I did think SkinnyCow's minion did a good job of delivering the lines SkinnyCow wrote for her about how she shouldn't go on the ski trip because everyone was soooo worried about her health in case anyone found out about the ski trip and questioned Bloody Mary about the timing. She's a shrewd one, that SkinnyCow.

[tribeca]

I love Mohegan sun.   It's much prettier than they showed JMHO.  wow Bethany.  That handstand was pretty cool.   Ramona is a better trouble stirrer than dorinda.   I enjoyed the ladies lunch without Bethany.   It was nice to see a meal with no yelling.   

   I use to work in daycare.   Potty trained toddlers for minimum wage.  Never knew there was a job like that.   A lot of parents would sign their kids up for 2 weeks at the daycare for them to be potty trained.