Erika Girardi/Erika Jayne: Let them eat cake

[Slakkie]

18 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I’m stealing “skanky twat hole” for future use. And yes, Brandi would be a huge improvement over this bitch. 

I may have watched some of this, because this rings a bell…wasn’t Len particularly put off? 

They all were but him in particular.  They never warmed up to her and in her one dance that she said was about "her" I recall them saying it did not feel genuine.  Honestly I do not watch it much but I have never seen them really be that blunt, especially early on

[chlban]

4 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

And all that happened when he was supposedly in steep cognitive decline.

They always kind of struck me as more father-daughter, but I still can’t help but think she was in a lot of this for herself. Maybe not at the very beginning, but certainly as her “career” took off. I’m sure she was grateful for that. Motives don’t always stay true in marriage.

When did Broadway close down due to COVID? I remember a scene of huge boxes of Playbills, suggesting that she wasn’t there for very long. I just assumed Tom never got the chance to see her, but you may well be right.

I believe Broadway closed in March 2020. I just thought it odd that he wouldn't be there for opening night.

[chlban]

1 hour ago, Slakkie said:

Her first dance was basically her stripper stuff and it did NOT go well because instead of it looking hot it looked like porn.  And it went down from there.  She was definitely told to tone it down

Wasn't the whole Erika Jayne performance just basically soft porn? I mean she can't sing or dance so she had to sell something.

[Thumper]

That is very weird!  The only singing she does is the one line something about “an alibi;” the rest of it is just kind of talk-singing.

[LemonSoda]

4 hours ago, Slakkie said:

I will never forget when Erika was on DWTS and the entire cast was really cold to her.  I mean they always seem to try and be kind to any of the random people but it seemed like no one but her partner had any warmth towards her.  I am going to assume that she was as fake their as now.

She thought she was too sexy for the show lol Her book chapter on it was weird 

[emmawoodhouse]

10 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

She thought she was too sexy for the show lol Her book chapter on it was weird 

Oh please. 🙄

[LemonSoda]

6 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Oh please. 🙄

“The biggest lesson I learned from the whole experience is that there is such a thing as being too much woman. There is. Most of America doesn’t want real, raw, brazen sexuality in their faces, especially from a woman my age. You’re seen as cheap or slutty or “raunchy.” What they want is cute: cute smiles, dainty figures. Erika Jayne is a lot of things, but no one will ever call her “cute.”

[goofygirl]

2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

If she came in with the same shitty attitude she has now, no wonder. She didn’t last all that long, either, IIRC. The porn dancer didn’t transition too well to the ballroom.

You know Andy is definitely looking forward to it…ready to lob those softballs at Mrs. Girardi? 

Andy @ reunion: "Uh, Erika? What's your favorite color?"

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

The face is unrecognizable, but I'd know that soulless lack of talent anywhere. 

 

Gross.  That is really some talentless  porn. 

[RoseAllDay]

3 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

The face is unrecognizable, but I'd know that soulless lack of talent anywhere. 

Oh my gawd….what did I just watch? “To be continued…” yessiree. The roller coaster is on its way dowwwnnnnnn…….

[Stats Queen]

4 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

I’m stealing “skanky twat hole” for future use. And yes, Brandi would be a huge improvement over this bitch. 

Just how bad is Erika where Brandi Glanville is a better option (of which I, sadly, agree)

[funnygirl]

Erika's sitting next to Andy at the reunion. 🙄

He just posted an IG story talking about how they're on a makeup break while filming, and he says something to Erika and looks directly to the side of him (we don't see her, only vaguely hear her beastly voice). 

If she's in prime position, he better drill her ass! 

Edited September 11, 2021 by funnygirl

[Primal Slayer]

3 minutes ago, funnygirl said:

Erika's sitting next to Andy at the reunion. 🙄

He just posted an IG story talking about how they're on a makeup break while filming, and he says something to Erika and looks directly to the side of him (we don't see her, only vaguely hear her beastly voice). 

If she's in prime position, he better drill her ass! 

Was there ever any doubt that she wouldnt be sitting next to him? Majority of the season literally surrounds her. 

[Stats Queen]

5 minutes ago, funnygirl said:

Erika's sitting next to Andy at the reunion. 🙄

He just posted an IG story talking about how they're on a makeup break while filming, and he says something to Erika and looks directly to the side of him (we don't see her, only vaguely hear her beastly voice). 

If she's in prime position, he better drill her ass! 

It’s Andy, so well, I’d be pleasantly surprised if he actually goes for the jugular.

[RealHousewife]

50 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Just how bad is Erika where Brandi Glanville is a better option (of which I, sadly, agree)

I know. I'd like to think even Brandi would be horrified if she had a husband who stole from orphans and widows. Erika's awfulness knows no bounds.

2 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Andy @ reunion: "Uh, Erika? What's your favorite color?"

That's what Rinna would ask! Along with:

"Garcelle, why didn't you send a thank you card for the sauce?"

[Ms Blue Jay]

7 hours ago, gingerella said:

How bad does a human being have to be to be deemed 'evil' then? 

ETA: Just to be clear, I think Tom is evil and and I think Erika is BEYOND evil

Agreed, I think they are both evil, evil evil.  How do they sleep at night?  Beyond disgusting

[65mickey]

Andy will commiserate with Erika and ask how she is holding up under the pressure. No way will he go for the jugular. He'll lob softball questions to her. Nothing will be mentioned about the victims and survivors and how she benefited from their money that Tom stole from them. Then he'll turn on Sutton and grill her about being innapropriate and socially awkward. Andy is completely tone deaf when it come to his favorites. Season after season he let Bethenny and Dorinda rip into other cast members all the while gushing over those 2.  If I were a betting woman I'd bet that Erika will be given a nice raise to go along with her diamond next year. That's the way Bravo does things. 

[lawrbk]

On 9/9/2021 at 5:51 AM, CrinkleCutCat said:

To continue with your premise of boring housewives… you would HAVE to include Teddi in the cast (as my #1 most boring) and I just COULD. NOT. WATCH. IT. 😆

I’ve actually found Erika Jayne to be a dull view too….until now.

I was just watching her season and remembered how much I liked Kathryn. I didn’t even find her boring. Just normal. I wish they’d give people more than one season to find their footing. And she only had half. Or even acknowledge maybe one normal HoWife is good grounding. But, no, Mrs Girardi and her porn act were golden for Andy. I’d also forgotten that season how much more toned down Erika’s looks were. And I thought she was overdone then a lot of the time but she actually looked so much better. Now it’s porny blow up doll all the time. One of the episodes involved Erika telling Kyle about Tom’s broken ankle after the accident. 🤭

[Thumper]

I think Andy likes to promote the idea that women can’t get along.  He loves all the fighting.☹️

[Lady of nod]

4 hours ago, funnygirl said:

Erika's sitting next to Andy at the reunion. 🙄

He just posted an IG story talking about how they're on a makeup break while filming, and he says something to Erika and looks directly to the side of him (we don't see her, only vaguely hear her beastly voice). 

If she's in prime position, he better drill her ass! 

I wouldn’t count on it. I heard him comment on The Hustler and the Housewife something like “If you can call that a documentary “ I’d love to see him go at her but she’s getting him the ratings he craves and he’s probably afraid of her like the spineless bitches on the show (save Garcelle and Sutton).

[RealHousewife]

Everyone should have listened to this precocious tyke.

[LemonSoda]

3 hours ago, lawrbk said:

I was just watching her season and remembered how much I liked Kathryn. I didn’t even find her boring. Just normal. I wish they’d give people more than one season to find their footing. And she only had half. Or even acknowledge maybe one normal HoWife is good grounding. But, no, Mrs Girardi and her porn act were golden for Andy. I’d also forgotten that season how much more toned down Erika’s looks were. And I thought she was overdone then a lot of the time but she actually looked so much better. Now it’s porny blow up doll all the time. One of the episodes involved Erika telling Kyle about Tom’s broken ankle after the accident. 🤭

This probably belongs in another thread but I’m agreeing with you about Kathryn. I think so much is about drama drama drama that we have to start normalizing regular/normal instead of dismissing or punishing people for being boring. 
I would’ve liked to see more of her life. 

[Kiki777]

Doesn’t Bravo/Andy ask for viewer submissions for questions to ask the cast?  There are bound to be a LOT of hard questions for Erika, so hopefully one or two will make it to Andy’s little cue cards....?

[Dutchgirl]

On 9/9/2021 at 3:22 PM, pasdetrois said:

I remain interested in his relationship and dealings with the CA Bar. Who will go after all of them for their apparently rank activities? CA attorney general?

Can you imagine the panicked conversations that have been going on in board rooms all over CA?

I would kill to be a fly on the wall right now

[Dutchgirl]

17 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

The face is unrecognizable, but I'd know that soulless lack of talent anywhere. 

*snort* She should really have spent the $ to have that scrubbed from Google, like Kyle and Kathy did with their 'Sandwiches for scrubs' pilot episode, whatever it was called.

[Happy Camper]

11 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Kyle and Kathy did with their 'Sandwiches for scrubs' pilot episode, whatever it was called.

Beverly Hills Bums. I've never forgiven them for it.

[amarante]

11 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

I wouldn’t count on it. I heard him comment on The Hustler and the Housewife something like “If you can call that a documentary “ I’d love to see him go at her but she’s getting him the ratings he craves and he’s probably afraid of her like the spineless bitches on the show (save Garcelle and Sutton).

If one gives credence to current gossip, Erika is on the outs with all of the housewives and feels that Andy is the only one who is her supporter.

I don't watch WWHL often but did happen to watch a show a few months ago when he had various of the bloggers on and he was truly shocked when they all thought Erika was vile. I don't think he was faking his shock and this was after the Hulu documentary and so much additional damning information had come out.

The recapper for New York Magazine/Vulture is Brian Moylan who also wrote her memoirs. His recaps also are a very sympathetic to Erika - he is vile as well. The comments though are worth reading. Moylan is a witty writer so the recaps themselves are interesting as a showcase of how someone can get their moral compass completely twisted.

One wonders what Moylan's motivation is - money in terms of writing her next memoir? To my knowledge not even Mikey is on social media currently defending her. There seems to be radio silence from him

Edited September 11, 2021 by amarante

[HunterHunted]

22 hours ago, gingerella said:

How bad does a human being have to be to be deemed 'evil' then? I'm asking seriously because if stealing payout money for widows and orphans who lost their loved ones in a plane crash, and who live close to or in poverty in a developing country and for whom that money would likely set them up for life in their country given the breadwinner of their family was killed suddenly in a plane crash, then what constitutes 'evil'?

Genocide is categorically capital "E" Evil. Human trafficking is evil. Using rape, torture, murder, starvation, kidnapping, drugging, imprisonment, maiming and amputation, and wanton destruction of another's property for coercion, compliance, and/or capricious thrills is evil. I think evil should be superlative and next level awful. I think the mind should reel at evil. It should be unfathomable by regular people.

I'm sure this sounds Gothic and ridiculous. Seeing a mom who got herself and her husband off of drugs while getting her kids addicted to pimp them out so she could get money, that bitch was evil. More than 20 years later, it still bothers me. The jealous person who threw acid on their partner permanently disabling and disfiguring them. I've seen some truly fucked up shit. Tom and Erika don't really rank in comparison. Tom and Erika are on the worst end of banal or everyday horrible behavior. They're not good people. They're actually legitimately pretty terrible. Maybe we can call them little "e" evil, but they're not even close to the major leagues and I generally reserve the word evil for things that are unfathomable.

However, I believe very strongly that Tom is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar worse than Erika. Erika never met these clients; Tom did. He formed relationships with them. He convinced these desperate people to rely upon him and then he stole their money. Tom is coming across a little better right now because he's not as stupid as shameless as Erika who is busy stunting with couture and cash fans on Instagram like the dumb spoiled shameless trick that she is. Erika doesn't even have the sense God gave Teresa Giudice. Teresa managed to keep her mouth shut and not come across callous and remorseless. Not fucking Erika. She's not even bonkers like Jen Shah. Erika is just basic--greedy, selfish, callous, shameless, boring, and dumb, but Tom was a much worse person.

Edited September 11, 2021 by HunterHunted

[hoodooznoodooz]

There are rumors Erika may leave RHoBH. 
She believes some of the HWs are exploiting her legal troubles.
 

Edited September 11, 2021 by hoodooznoodooz

[amarante]

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

There are rumors Erika may leave RHoBH. 
She believes some of the HWs are exploiting her legal troubles.
 

If they are emanating from Erika's camp, I would imagine that she is giving herself the ability to go either way. 

I don't think she would go willingly because she needs the money and exposure. 

I know we have been down this route before but I can't think of a single housewife who wasn't actually wealthy who left of her own volition - Betheny, Heather Dubrow, Adrienne Malouf, Heather Thomson. All had their f-you money so they didn't need the show. I think Carole Radziwill also left because it had become toxic and what did she need it for?

 

[izabella]

3 hours ago, amarante said:

If one gives credence to current gossip, Erika is on the outs with all of the housewives and feels that Andy is the only one who is her supporter.

That makes Andy vile, too.  Not that he wasn't already, but if he can't see that supporting Erika as she tries to sell herself as a victim while giving zero fucks about Tom's actual victims, he has crossed a line in my book.  That he has no humility or regrets for giving Erika a forum to do that tells me he gives zero fucks about Tom's victims, too.  Maybe if he gets serious backlash, he might have to reconsider, but I won't hold my breath. 

After that display at Kathy's, none of these women should be willing to film with Erika.  I'm really surprised they all just willingly went along to Garcelle's and continued to make nice with Erika. 

[Mrs peel]

On 9/9/2021 at 7:14 PM, Dutchgirl said:

Immoral seems a long haul from evil. John Wayne Gacey was evil. He enjoyed hurting people, a sadist. I don't see that in Tom, I don't think he enjoys hurting people. Quite the opposite. He loved spoiling people, he liked to be liked and enjoyed spreading the wealth, however illegal, and buying love from everyone. His problem seems to be saying no to people.

I think it was all just numbers on a page to him..."How can I keep this circus going?" He was just moving shit around trying to keep all the balls in the air, paying the bills to keep up an image of success. That's really the only way you continue to get those big clients. And of course it was all totally illegal, immoral and all that, but I don't know about "evil". 

Yup!

Gerardi didn’t steal millions from his clients - widows, orphans, people who suffered horrible tragedies - because he can’t say no and wanted to spoil people.  Nope, this is an attorney who appears to have been stealing from his clients for years, which is unethical. He’s a disgusting human being.

for those talking about the CA bar, I’m not sure the CA AG can sue for anything.  Sadly, lawyer disciplinary boards (sometimes it’s the state bar, sometimes it’s a separate group) have been very lax with lawyers over the years.  This is particularly true if the lawyer repays the money to the client (if that is the complaint).

I strongly suspect there are many old complaints to the bar about Girardi (I have seen references to some).  The complaints aren’t made public unless the bar decides to take action.  For the old cases, i suspect Girardi gave bulls@@t excuses about why the money hadn’t been paid, the clients don’t understand, etc., and then paid each client who filed a complaint.  Then the bar closes the case without any disciplinary action taken.  What they didn’t do at any time was notice the pattern, which would have woken someone up to the idea that there couldn’t always be a “problem” with turning over the money.  Add to this that Girardi was spending lots of cash to support the bar, politicians, etc, and they didn’t want to know.  Now,  could the bar be sued for $$ for failing in its job to oversee and discipline Girardi in the past, thus allowing future damage?  I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question.

I  suspect the theft started as delays in payments - he needed cash he didn’t personally have at the time, took it out of the client escrow account (or never put the proceeds there at all - another ethical violation) and waited for the next big settlement to pay out the prior settlements.  But he also lived too high on the hog, as did his “partner/trophy wife/whatever the heck Erika is calling herself these days.”  So he needed more and more money.  And there could never be enough settlements (and therefore attorneys fees) coming in.

another reason he got away with this as long as he did is that apparently, while the law firm had 2 name “partners” he was the only equity partner.  (Equity partners are the law firm owners).  So no other lawyer at the firm had access to critical financial information.  This is highly unusual for medium or large size firms.  And it may be that, as he got older and wasn’t doing the major legal work himself, he didn’t have enough truly experienced attorneys at the firm to get and win big money cases.  An associate hopes to make partner in order to make the big money, and it’s likely attorneys left when they realized they would never become equity partners.

Erika of course if lying when she implies this all started 3 years ago when he was in a car accident and broke his ankle/was unconscious for 11 hours/broke a collarbone/ or whatever her story is now.  She’s disgusting too.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Mrs peel
Typos, always typos!

[goofygirl]

15 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Andy will commiserate with Erika and ask how she is holding up under the pressure. No way will he go for the jugular. He'll lob softball questions to her. Nothing will be mentioned about the victims and survivors and how she benefited from their money that Tom stole from them. Then he'll turn on Sutton and grill her about being innapropriate and socially awkward. Andy is completely tone deaf when it come to his favorites. Season after season he let Bethenny and Dorinda rip into other cast members all the while gushing over those 2.  If I were a betting woman I'd bet that Erika will be given a nice raise to go along with her diamond next year. That's the way Bravo does things. 

Perfection!

[Kiki777]

I doubt Erika would leave the show on her own.  She needs the ‘fame’ but now she’ll really need the money.

 

[65mickey]

I can't decide if she needs the money or she is trying to project an image that she has no money or assets to turn over to the firm's bankruptcy attorney.  But whether she needs the money or not should not be a factor in keeping her on the show or firing her. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Does anyone know if they could garnish her RHoBH wages in order to pay the settlement victims?
 

[amarante]

19 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Does anyone know if they could garnish her RHoBH wages in order to pay the settlement victims?
 

If there is a judgment and she doesn’t pay, they would be able to garnish her wages and place liens on all of her assets such as bank accounts. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by amarante

[RoseAllDay]

21 hours ago, funnygirl said:

Erika's sitting next to Andy at the reunion. 🙄

He just posted an IG story talking about how they're on a makeup break while filming, and he says something to Erika and looks directly to the side of him (we don't see her, only vaguely hear her beastly voice). 

If she's in prime position, he better drill her ass! 

Of course she is. The poor, shrinking violet needs protection. He won’t do — or say — shit to her. What a slap to Sutton. I can see it now. Erika will sit there looking all traumatized and sad, and Andy will be her protector and defender.

I have a very bad feeling that we ain’t seen nothin’ yet when it comes to Sutton taking a major hit over this. Skanks like Erika always seem to weasel out of any culpability, especially if they’re good for ratings.

5 minutes ago, amarante said:

If there is a judgment and she doesn’t pay, they would be able to garnish her wages and place liens on all of her assets such as bank accounts. 

From your lips to God’s ears. Seriously. I want her ending up with nothing.

[hoodooznoodooz]

She hasn’t posted any vanity photos in about three days.

Maybe her camera is malfunctioning.

[RoseAllDay]

3 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

I doubt Erika would leave the show on her own.  She needs the ‘fame’ but now she’ll really need the money.

 

I’ve come around to the sad conclusion that her diamond is most likely safe, especially if her drama drives ratings, unless her legal situation takes a sharp dive south. 

As for needing the money, I’ll just give my standard answer:  McDonald’s is paying $16/hr.

1 minute ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

She hasn’t posted any vanity photos in about three days.

Maybe her camera is malfunctioning.

Or maybe she’s finally listening to her counsel.

[RoseAllDay]

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

There are rumors Erika may leave RHoBH. 
She believes some of the HWs are exploiting her legal troubles.
 

I don’t care why she leaves. Just so she leaves. 

And she’s delusional as well as trashy.

[gingerella]

On 9/10/2021 at 1:16 PM, Slakkie said:

I’m stealing “skanky twat hole” for future use.

Anyone else think we need to rename this thread?

Or

Erika Jayne: Patting My Own Puss (since Tom cut me off)

[LemonSoda]

2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

As for needing the money, I’ll just give my standard answer:  McDonald’s is paying $16/hr.

 

Shakers is still there! She could be a special feature. 

[RealHousewife]

Per Merriam-Webster, the "essential meaning of evil" is "morally bad." Even if there are sadly much worse people out there, I don't think there's any hyperbole calling folks who stole from widows and orphans evil. We don't know for a fact what Erika was aware of, but it's pretty obvious she feels mostly sorry for herself in all of this. If she's not evil, she's evil adjacent. 

[princelina]

On 9/8/2021 at 6:09 PM, RoseAllDay said:

A one-and-done. She and Erika had a conversation where Erika told her to be careful of LVP (“she’s a sniper from the side”). Kathryn then told LVP, and Erika got pissed. Kathryn also got into it with Faye Resnik, and clutched her pearls at Erika’s “C—-y” necklace. I forget how she came to the show.

Otherwise, she really didn’t bring much to the table.

She got drunk at the Girardi's dinner party and talked back to Tom when he chided her!!!

(Leading Erika to tell another lady the next day, "I'm not ALLOWED to behave that way" 😂

 

On 9/8/2021 at 9:30 PM, LemonSoda said:

Deal! I just thought Carlton deserved a second chance after being mean girled by Kyle 

Ah that was her own fault.  Keep her gone 😖

[amarante]

For anyone harboring any doubts as to Erika's culpability - or at the very least something that puts everything that was happening in a real timeline - including linking to when stuff was being filmed in several seasons, someone on Reddit did an incredible job

Well worth reading 

 

 

Part 2 of the timeline

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/pltig7/part_2_erika_jayne_for_dummies_timeline_for_s9_s10/

 

[amarante]

Part 3 of the timeline

 

 

https://old.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/pltig7/part_2_erika_jayne_for_dummies_timeline_for_s9_s10/

[Dutchgirl]

8 hours ago, amarante said:

Part 3 of the timeline

 

 

https://old.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/pltig7/part_2_erika_jayne_for_dummies_timeline_for_s9_s10/

 

O . O  

You’re a total rockstar. This is a ton of work. Wow. Thank you!

Edited September 12, 2021 by Dutchgirl

[emmawoodhouse]

That's one hell of a compilation. It certainly shows Erika contradicting herself over and over. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I love the part about Jaggar calling Erika a “bad guy” on July 14.

“This has nothing to do with her legal issues, but it’s funny.”

Edited September 12, 2021 by hoodooznoodooz