ulkis August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) Olivia should have been written off the show years ago. Years. Ago. I've been saying this about so many characters lately. She was going to be written off in 2012 and then I dunno how she was spared. There was some gossip that they decided to keep her and Steve around for a little bit longer because of Ron bringing Heather on. After that, I am convinced LLC's hardcore ingratiating (I'm not trying to be mean, I remember all the time in 2012 it was just LLC constantly tweeting how awesome her script was) and her willingness to do whatever/take whatever they'd give her convinced them to let her stay. I could deal with her staying but no more a) giving her story and b) interacting with Sonny. There is no one who looks stupider/more hypocritical when they kiss his ass than her, imo. I mean, there is the fucking spot where she saw him standing over her son's body with a gun!!! There!!! It's right there!!! She just walked over the spot like 10 times in 10 seconds! And she's spouting how death is too good for someone else?? Take a seat, Olivia, take a seat. Edited August 22, 2015 by ulkis 11 Link to comment
KerleyQ August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I love LLC, but Olivia... I like her when she's not around Sonny. I love her relationship with Dante and her relationship with Lulu. I think I could have really liked Ned/Olivia if the show hadn't let WK slip through their fingers (or written the whole dead baby lie thing). But with Sonny, it's just rage-inducing. If they aren't willing to write her having the appropriate attitude around him, then just keep them out of each other's orbit and let them be polite when family ties dictate they are in the same place at the same time. 16 Link to comment
P3pp3rb1rd August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 And Sonny doesn't exactly sound loving when he talks about Carly being her mother (what) cancelling out all of Avery's Jerome blood. I mean I don't even know where to start with that. This! I was hit with a splitting headache when I heard that; it was almost stroke-worthy. Half of Avery's flesh and blood is still Jerome, even if we assume that Sonny really is her father. It's stupid that Sonny thinks he can just proclaim that Carly is Avery's real mother. Adoption (or in this case, mere babysitting) trumps Avery's biological parentage? It's the Michael Quartermaine story all over again. Sonny and Carly covet a child, and stop at nothing to gain control of it. The strange artificial parenthood is like an erotic bond that Carly and Sonny share. And Sabrina is irritating again, mincing around as Princess of Quartermaine, working on Michael to forgive Sonny. Hired as a nanny, smug Sabrina has worked her way quickly into being mistress and confidante. Her excuses for Sonny make me sick, and I don't understand her motivation to excuse him. She claims to care about Michael, yet she subtly defends his brother's killer again and again. Why doesn't that judge put the kibosh on scowling Franco? Yelling in court, rising and striding around like a caged animal, Franco should be hauled away by the bailiff and cool his heels waiting in suspense for news. He's a brat who craves attention, and doesn't respect the court. Can't AvaDenise be fined or disciplined for showing up to testify dressed like that? 6 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) She was going to be written off in 2012 and then I dunno how she was spared. There was some gossip that they decided to keep her and Steve around for a little bit longer because of Ron bringing Heather on. After that, I am convinced LLC's hardcore ingratiating (I'm not trying to be mean, I remember all the time in 2012 it was just LLC constantly tweeting how awesome her script was) and her willingness to do whatever/take whatever they'd give her convinced them to let her stay. I could deal with her staying but no more a) giving her story and b) interacting with Sonny. There is no one who looks stupider/more hypocritical when they kiss his ass than her, imo. I mean, there is the fucking spot where you saw him standing over son's body with a gun lady!!! There!!! It's right there!!! You just fucking walked over the spot like 10 times in 10 seconds! And she's spouting how death is too good for someone else?? Take a seat, Olivia, take a seat. I will forever want her off the show as long as she's written like Sonny's PR Agent. This is the man that nearly killed her son and cheated on her with a murderer. Need I say more? .... I also don't understand how the writers of this show have characters, with straight faces, ask Michael if he will forgive Sonny. SONNYKILLEDHISFATHER. STOP IT, SHOW! STOP. Edited August 22, 2015 by HeatLifer 9 Link to comment
Ambrosefolly August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) I am at the point where I don't know if I can continue to watch. She was really, really, really gross. I bet she's going to be thrilled that Ava's alive so she can be sent to prison. I'm sorry, but if anyone in my family was murdered, I'd be glad they died. Oh sure, Liv. Baby Leo needs to be kept from Julian, but the man who SHOT YOUR SON is totes fine with raising Avery. And I know I'm not objective, but cancelling out the blood of Ava? Fuck off, you stuttering greaseball. Just NO. Again, all of his crimes are just handwaved away no matter what. Pardon, bi polar disease, whatever. I wish he had never come on this show. The sickest thing about it is she talking to a man that has been pardoned for murder. First degree murder! What about justice for the mother of of his victim. No, instead he gets to go back to his big mansion, cuddling the cutest thing on this show,still in power and planning his wedding. At the very least, aside from fucking Morgan, Ava has been suffering more. Edited August 22, 2015 by Ambrosefolly 2 Link to comment
tvgoddess August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) Can't AvaDenise be fined or disciplined for showing up to testify dressed like that? Unless they were going to wait for her to change, why should she be fined or disciplined? They dragged her out of her apartment to testify immediately. Like she said, she had no choice. I cannot believe I'm saying this, but I want Liz and her lies back. I'd rather watch that crap than this. At least Liz is pretty to look at, unlike Sonny. Edited August 22, 2015 by tvgoddess 3 Link to comment
dubbel zout August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I can't believe they had Olivia spout that stuff with a straight face. I could maybe get behind it if she wanted something from Sonny and was trying to butter him up, or she was desperately trying to convince herself that Julian had gotten out of the mob. But no, it was completely sincere, and because Julian was taken down to the station, he had to be guilty, never mind that when it's Sonny who gets interrogated, it's always because the commissioner is a big old meanie who holds a grudge. Okay, Julian probably is back in the mob—he's had a few too many guilty looks whenever it's mentioned—but that doesn't make him any worse than Sonny. Oh, wait. It does. 3 Link to comment
Lillybee August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Baby Leo should have been a tock for real instead of a fake one. It is ridiculous that Dante has a brother more than 30 years younger than him. 1 Link to comment
nilyank August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Dante has a brother and a sister that are younger than his own young son. 4 Link to comment
ulkis August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Baby Leo should have been a tock for real instead of a fake one. It is ridiculous that Dante has a brother more than 30 years younger than him. Hey, it happens sometimes. I wanted Olivia to have a baby, but I wanted it to be Johnny's dammit. 5 Link to comment
Ambrosefolly August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Hey, it happens sometimes. I wanted Olivia to have a baby, but I wanted it to be Johnny's dammit. For me, it isn't that the baby is so much younger than Dante (and a year younger than his son), it is that as someone mentioned it is there are too many fucking babies, there isn't a real relationship with Julian (or a lot of babies being born) and there is something unsettling that he newish little half sister is his dad's & Ava's kid and brand new brother is his mother's & Ava's brother Julian kid. 4 Link to comment
yowsah1 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 There is nothing for me to watch on this show anymore. Nothing. 8 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 There is nothing for me to watch on this show anymore. Nothing. I tried to think of one thing I liked and I could not. :/ 3 Link to comment
stlbf August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I tried to think of one thing I liked and I could not. :/Michael's anger at his bitch mother and murdering adopted fath----scratch that.Anna being her awesome super cop self....wait. Dante being a great, loving and faithful husband. ...nope. All I have right now is that Tracy Q is always fantastic. 7 Link to comment
twoods August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Thank goodness I'm on the barge, because Sabrina being Sonny's new ass kisser is causing rage. What the hell, writers! She should be supporting Michael, not making excuses for the ass that killed his father. This is pretty much the last straw and I will continue to delete all the episodes without watching until the new writers bring some life back into this show. Or the Jake reveal so I can see Liz being kicked to the curb. 4 Link to comment
Kitty Redstone August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I watched the entire show today, as as experiment in how much horrible tv I could sit through. The whole fucking show was about Nina and Sonny. Never again. Again, all of his crimes are just handwaved away no matter what. Pardon, bi polar disease, whatever. I wish he had never come on this show. So do I. It really has not been the same since MB came on. It's quite depressing. I was watching on old Hart to Hart episode the other day (from 82 or 83), and in it Jennifer won a contest for a walk on spot on a soap. It's always interesting to see primetime shows from that era use a daytime soap as a basis for that week's plot. Pretty sad that a genre that used to be that popular is now down to four, and that the one that used to be the best is dominated by repulsive characters like Nina and Sonny. 1 Link to comment
P3pp3rb1rd August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Idle thoughts as summer wanes and schoolbuses begin to beetle by the gate again... If Olivia didn't flop down and open her legs for mobsters, she wouldn't have to worry so much about keeping the subsequent children from meeting their daddies. Why can't she connect the dots? Now that Mo-Ron's script days are dwindling, and Carson's re-re-re-re-rewedding is scheduled, will we have to suffer Lucy Coe's off-the-wall antics as the marriage officiator? Can't we have a normal clergyperson? Since Sonny's home is the site of the nuptials, if potential assassins and evildoers plan to interfere, will they find their job more difficult? Will Maxie brighten up those black roots in time for the wedding? Why is wooden Nathan still trying to figure out who kidnapped Avery? She was found unharmed long ago, Old news. 2 Link to comment
Jazzy24 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Olivia should have been written off the show years ago. Years. Ago. I've been saying this about so many characters lately. She's a useless character who has never been needed. 4 Link to comment
sunnyface August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Why is wooden Nathan still trying to figure out His appearances have been very soothing for my Sonny/Franco/Nina/Kiki rage and cute to watch as he strains to spit out his dialogue. Congrats RC/FV! Y'all have taken GH to new lows. One can only imagine the stuff (e.g., blowing up the hospital) that was the fine line - besides the dismal ratings - that was crossed that caused RC to get fired. Never have I been this close to typing an obscenity and I've been on this internet thing for over two decades and started watching this show over four decades ago. 4 Link to comment
Francie August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Oh, I think this is all Ron's still. I think this was his (and Frank's) Hail Mary pass. "I'll feature Sonny and that way I can still feature Franco and Nina!" No. Fair point. Finally, I'm to the point where I'm (temporarily, hopefully) out of snark. I'm just .... ehhhhh. 3 Link to comment
BestestAuntEver August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) I don't understand why TPTB think showcasing the mob, Carson, Nina, Franco and Keeks will fix or even save this show. I didn't watch but as a nurse, I'm appalled that they had perfect test score Sabreeeena, say Sonny wasn't at fault for his actions because he is bipolar. I also can't believe we are rehashing good mobster Sonny vs ever other mobster being bad and evil for 554257983248522441th time. Get the fuck out of here with this shit. I have been holding on by a freaking thread but I can't and won't be tuning in to Sonny, Jason or Carly propping. They are what drove me away when I returned in 2006. You can't make the murdering mobsters, killers and liars the moral compass of a fucking show. You need Laura's and Robin's to balance it out. Edited August 22, 2015 by BestestAuntEver 12 Link to comment
SlovakPrincess August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 That is so beyond stupid. They would almost be better off not mentioning AJ's death than ... reminding the audience and trying to convince them it's totes ok in the most idiotic ways possible. Sabrina tried to kill another woman's unborn baby. As a nurse entrusted with medical care. And got away with it. No wonder she is a-ok with stupid excuses for murderous behavior. 15 Link to comment
Oracle42 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 For me, it isn't that the baby is so much younger than Dante (and a year younger than his son), it is that as someone mentioned it is there are too many fucking babies, there isn't a real relationship with Julian (or a lot of babies being born) and there is something unsettling that he newish little half sister is his dad's & Ava's kid and brand new brother is his mother's & Ava's brother Julian kid. There were 6 pregnAncies and 5 babies born in RC's three years and more than half of them are related to the Jerome family Link to comment
thewhiteowl August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 They can't trot out the "off his meds" excuse for Sonny like when he tried to kill Jax so just being bi-polar makes it okay to kill AJ. Because...reasons. 8 Link to comment
Mrs. Stanwyck August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I also don't understand how the writers of this show have characters, with straight faces, ask Michael if he will forgive Sonny. SONNYKILLEDHISFATHER. STOP IT, SHOW! STOP. It isn't even that they ask him IF he will forgive Sonny; it's the implication that he SHOULD forgive Sonny that I find so rage inducing. Wouldn't most be like "Yeah, Michael, killing AJ in cold blood and then lying about it is horrible. I totally understand why you don't want to be around Sonny anymore and why you would find it impossible to have any kind of relationship with him going forward"? Instead we get, "Michael why are you being so mean to Sonny? He loves you - when are you going to get over him shooting that fat loser AJ?" So much hate! 18 Link to comment
tricknasty August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Michael was looking mighty fine in those jeans and Teresa Castillo is definitely showing... Link to comment
sacrebleu August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Michael should be at least as angry about his father's death as Olivia is about her cousin's. So the minute Olivia forgives Ava, Michael should forgive Sonny. I also want a pony. 9 Link to comment
testardo August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Dear god, Olivia gave me a rage blackout today, how can she justify Sonny and Snarly being Avery's parents when she kept Dante away from Sonny for over two decades and is currently keeping baby Leo away from Julian because they are both mobsters. Don't forget the minute Dante was involved with his *now* sainted father .The man shot him in cold blood and Because he didn't die right away was planning to shoot him again. Then he blamed Olivia because he didn't know he was his son GAG ME ! I am not a big Julian fan but has he put any of his kids in danger by his own hand .You know bombs in cars , pushing the girlfriend out of the way and son gets shot, takes protection off said son after causing him to be in jail. Olivia needs to go. The stupidity of this show burns . 2 Link to comment
Badsamaritan August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 For me, it isn't that the baby is so much younger than Dante (and a year younger than his son), it is that as someone mentioned it is there are too many fucking babies, there isn't a real relationship with Julian (or a lot of babies being born) and there is something unsettling that he newish little half sister is his dad's & Ava's kid and brand new brother is his mother's & Ava's brother Julian kid. Holy crap, am I slow! Just realized Dante's new baby sister on his father's side and his new baby brother on his mother's side will also be cousins to each other...Oh, show, way to keep the GH family tree from forking! 2 Link to comment
ciarra August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 ...have characters, with straight faces, ask Michael if he will forgive Sonny. SONNYKILLEDHISFATHER. STOP IT, SHOW! STOP. But he didn't meeeaan it! Carly said so. It was teh bipolar, where it's okay to do whatever you want. And AJ had been choking Ava so Sonny was totally justified to shoot AJ, who was begging for his life. Sonny had to kill AJ, rather than just telling him to back off. And how great was it that Carly and Maddy could commiserate over having family members with mental illness. Isn't Madeline the reason that Neenah is mentally ill? Is secretly drugging your daughter the sign of a sane person? How about killing a pharmacist to hide your crime? 3 Link to comment
majormama August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 You know what would make the CarSon wedding infinitely more watchable? If they changed their minds about the small ceremony, invited the whole town, and all George RR Martin broke loose. 14 Link to comment
backhometome August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Dante's son is older than both his aunt and uncle. 2 Link to comment
ulkis August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) The rate Sonny's going Rocco is probably gonna have more aunts and uncles even younger than him. Weren't Guza and Pratt against giving Sonny bi-polar disorder until MB finally badgered them enough to get them to give in with that idea? They should have stuck to their guns. Edited August 22, 2015 by ulkis 3 Link to comment
peachmangosteen August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I would think MB would be put off by this 'Sonny killed AJ because he's bipolar' shit. Implying that being bipolar means you kill people is so offensive. 9 Link to comment
Ambrosefolly August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Holy crap, am I slow! Just realized Dante's new baby sister on his father's side and his new baby brother on his mother's side will also be cousins to each other...Oh, show, way to keep the GH family tree from forking! Understandable, considering that there is very little family interaction on this show (though Ava and Julian have more contact with each other than most) to remind you. 1 Link to comment
godfreydaniels August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I hate Morgans buzz cut. It only makes his nose more prominent. That is all. That is all I got from todays court house episode. 3 Link to comment
stlbf August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 You know what would make the CarSon wedding infinitely more watchable? If they changed their minds about the small ceremony, invited the whole town, and all George RR Martin broke loose. I could live with this happening! All Corinthi must die there! 2 Link to comment
dubbel zout August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 She should be supporting Michael, not making excuses for the ass that killed his father. I don't mind Sabrina challenging Michael's feelings about things—I think that's genuinely a good thing. The better he understands why he thinks the way he does, the better he can explain it to others. But for her to start propping Sonny that way, when she has only the most minimal experience with him, is absurd. And she's been a nurse for all of three years, so her professional experience with mental illness is next to nothing. STFU, Sabrina. 5 Link to comment
ulkis August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I would think MB would be put off by this 'Sonny killed AJ because he's bipolar' shit. Implying that being bipolar means you kill people is so offensive. I think dude only cares about Sonny's viability as a character and the show going on for just a leetle while longer. Or at least, prioritizes it before any representation of bi-polar. 3 Link to comment
Vella August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Sabrina should have been a Sonny and Carly plant. Something held over her head to get her to do their bidding. First, that she helps get Michael to give Avery back. Second, to get Michael to soften towards Sonny and Carly and ultimately forgive both of them without them having to do any work. There, her bizarre remarks explained. 2 Link to comment
WendyCR72 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 STFU, Sabrina This should always be said, no matter what. 3 Link to comment
Rancide August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Who is the third Jerome baby? Avery, Olivia's, and.... ? I'm happy I managed to tune one out. Avery still better be Morgan's eventually. Or Avery could just die (once it's no longer played by its current most adorable baby ever seen on television). Sonny has too many damn children. Link to comment
dubbel zout August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Who's going to develop aplastic anemia first? 1 Link to comment
ulkis August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 (edited) Who is the third Jerome baby? Avery, Olivia's, and.... ? I'm happy I managed to tune one out. Avery still better be Morgan's eventually. Or Avery could just die (once it's no longer played by its current most adorable baby ever seen on television). Sonny has too many damn children. I guess Danny counts as a Jerome baby? Edited August 22, 2015 by ulkis Link to comment
OnceSane August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Who's going to develop aplastic anemia first? Definitely Leo so Olivia is forced to tell the truth. Avery will be almost killed in a shootout, leading to Ava getting custody. When Sonny takes her to court, they'll do another paternity test which proves Morgan is the father. 5 Link to comment
WendyCR72 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Avery is better off having been hatched than having greasy thug Sonny or dimbulb Morgan as her father. Then again, her mama is no great shakes, either. The child is doomed. 7 Link to comment
stlbf August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Avery is better off having been hatched than having greasy thug Sonny or dimbulb Morgan as her father. Then again, her mama is no great shakes, either. The child is doomed. Believed the same for baby Kristina Davis. I begged for her paternity to turn out to be anyone else's child. Including Ned, Coleman, Jax, some random one night stand or even Reginald the butler. Anyone but Sonny. Sabrina can just go and die now. I hate her so damn much. At this moment more than even murderer Scummy and NULOCHCarly. Kiki is more useful and holds more purpose than Sabrina right now. 3 Link to comment
WendyCR72 August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Believed the same for baby Kristina Davis. I begged for her paternity to turn out to be anyone else's child. Including Ned, Coleman, Jax, some random one night stand or even Reginald the butler. I'd still pay money for Kristina to be Jax's kid. One, it would make Carly foam at the mouth. Two, it would mean no Sonny DNA. Three, I always loved Jax/Alexis. And four, I don't care about Psycho Jerry, so even if this would make things skeevy, I don't care. LOL! (Besides, women sleeping with more than one family member on a soap is like a rite of passage.) 1 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 I like this new Kiki. I realized it, watching her play the scenes this week and was glad KA wasn't snarling through them. Link to comment
OnceSane August 22, 2015 Share August 22, 2015 Believed the same for baby Kristina Davis. I begged for her paternity to turn out to be anyone else's child. Including Ned, Coleman, Jax, some random one night stand or even Reginald the butler. Anyone but Sonny. Sabrina can just go and die now. I hate her so damn much. At this moment more than even murderer Scummy and NULOCHCarly. Kiki is more useful and holds more purpose than Sabrina right now. I wouldn't go that far. ;) 5 Link to comment
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