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13 hours ago, statsgirl said:
14 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't like Cam getting taken advantage of that way. 

But it's for Joss! Different rules apply when it's Carly's daughter and Sonny's stepdaughter.

That's what makes it especially gross. Everyone has to bow down to the Corinthos altar. Ugh.

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Speaking of which, I found it creepy how welcoming Sonny was to Sasha.  Like he's ready to cater the engagement party.

Sonny might not be as blatantly interfering as Carly is, but in some ways he's a lot worse, with all of his implied threats.

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I kept staring at molly and wondering if it was a new actress! Her cheeks are definitely fuller and her makeup was awful. Maybe she just gained a bit of weight? I mean she was rail thin before. Certainly not uncommon for a young girl and she didn't look unhealthy in the least. But something was definitely off about her appearance yesterday. HP may not be a 'classic beauty' but she certainly doesn't need to have work done on her face. 

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Maybe, just maybe the writers know what they have in the Cam actor and that's why they are giving him the meatier storyline right now. Could have done without him using Jason as a threat, thought.

I wish for a better storyline for Jax. This one with Hayden, Valentin, and Nina is boring.

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12 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Could have done without him using Jason as a threat, thought.

I haven't seen today's ep yet, but a kid using Jason (or even Sonny) as a threat is more tolerable to me than an adult. 

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Why does everyone assume that whoever gets Drew's memories will automatically fall for Kim, and/or Kim him? All we've ever had is Kim's word that she and Drew were an item and Kim clearly lies about everything concerning Drew/Oscar/their relationship.

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Why does Shiloh assume that whoever gets Drew's memories is 1. going to know where the money is (memories are not like paper files) and 2. will tell the truth about where the money is since Drew hated Shiloh.

It was hard to tell which was more boring, Sasha and Maxie talking about their relationships or Jason and Sam endlessly recycling the same summary.

I liked Scott calling up Franco about Cameron, Scott's lunch with Laura (curiously they are both in a way grandparents to Cameron) and Laura and Ava's conversation. I want Laura to have a friend who isn't Carly or Bobbie.

I much prefer this psychic to the other one; she's just kooky enough to be fun.

On 8/6/2019 at 3:09 PM, Peppermint Patty said:

Julian buying creepy cult house is weird. Is he forgetting his daughter was drugged there twice?

Does he know that? Sam wasn't speaking to him then except to insult him even though she frequented his pub.

Since Sam is now saved by Her Hero, I'm not expecting to see that house again.

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55 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Could have done without him using Jason as a threat, thought.

Well, at least he didn't use Franco as the threat.   Or Sonny.  It made sense that he used Jason as a threat (my half brother's father is Jason), though that only gave Shiloh more amunition.

18 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Why does everyone assume that whoever gets Drew's memories will automatically fall for Kim, and/or Kim him?

Because that's how the story will play out. (just rumours on my part, no actual spoilers).  Liz and Franco have no angst right now, so Franco will save Cam, and get the memories and fall for Kim, though whether it will be played for laughs because it's Franco, or for serious remains to be seen.  

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I think the only thing that actually worked for me today was the flow of information from Scott's conversation with the meter maid to Franco, since Scott has an established connection to Cam and his vehicle. That was a natural way of getting Franco to Cam's location. Otherwise, yikes, this was like a tacky, low-budget attempt at horror. Shiloh was all but rubbing his hands in maniacal glee, the evil doctor can hurl words like "odious son of a bitch" at Shiloh but doesn't have the spine to truly stand up to him, and the psychic's abrupt about-face in her advice to Franco seemed like a tacked on, unnecessary detail (less is more when it comes to the psychic, I've decided). And that's not even touching how bizarre the premise of memory transfer is to begin with.

The only real thread to hang on to here is Cam's fear, and as he's my favorite kid on the show, there better not be a hair on his head harmed. Franco can be memory mapped from Port Charles to Llanview and back again for all I care, but keep Cam safe.

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17 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

Just how many psychics does one show need? Olivia already had occasional psychic powers - why not make them more manifest now that she's getting older?

Olivia hates Ava for killing her cousin Connie, or at least she should, so it wouldn't work story wise here.

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WTF are they doing to poor KSt? Her makeup looks even worse now than it did before she took time off to heal. And I’ve seen twitter pics of her so I KNOW she doesn’t look bad IRL. Do the makeup and wardrobe people hate her that much???

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Ok, so I watched yesterday's show and I don't disagree with TJ, but he really went about it all wrong.  Like, yes, Molly should have passion for her career, and no, going to law school becasue it's expected isn't really a good idea.  His point about burnout and then paying for law school when you really don't want to be there is just wasting your potential for a career you love.... except... it's Molly's choice.  Sure, let her know that nobody will hold it against her if she decided to change tracks.  Let her know that you will support her no matter what.  Do not tell her how she feels.  Do not tell her what her choice SHOULD be.  Molly could not do law school and go report.  She could do law school and transition that into a career writing about the law and reporting on court cases. She could be a lawyer and love or hate it.  She could also decide to write trashy novels or go into broadcasting, or open a clown school.  It's up to her to decide.

So, TJ, I get you dude, but STFU.

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7 hours ago, Sake614 said:

WTF are they doing to poor KSt? Her makeup looks even worse now than it did before she took time off to heal. And I’ve seen twitter pics of her so I KNOW she doesn’t look bad IRL. Do the makeup and wardrobe people hate her that much???

I think they are trying to put a lot of make up on the scars on her face, but it just does . . . that to her face. 

I just went to look at her instagram page and so far all of the pictures there she's way back from the camera, something's in her face like her phone or hair or it's way grainy/filtered/evening. This is a picture of her taken at a fan event two weeks ago that's probably what she looks like more accurately than her twitter or what GH's make-crew does to her face:

https://soaps.sheknows.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Kirsten-Storms-Emme-Rylan-GH-Fan-Club-Weekend-2019-JJ.jpg?fit=1230%2C718 

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"I'm just trying to shut off my social media alerts." Ava, just turn off the damn phone. I doubt you'll get any emergency calls.

Too bad Sam won't remember how she's feeling now the next time she decides to do something idiotic.

I admire Shiloh's "if we're going for the insanity plea, we might as well shoot the whole village" attitude regarding committing another crime.

I wish Sam had been able to show as much fight against Shiloh as Cam. I also thought William Lipton did a really good job showing Cam's terror. 

59 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

WTF are they doing to poor KSt? Her makeup looks even worse now than it did before she took time off to heal.

Her makeup is terrible, and I also think she's not getting the best lighting, either. They light for the sets not the actors, but someone could give her a head's up to move an inch or so into a better light.

I replayed Sasha fainting about a dozen times. It was so soapy and cheesy.

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The discussion in Sam’s hospital room about what happens to the person who gets Drew’s memories but is not related:

Sam says they could be left in a vegetative state and I could just see Jason thinking “if I could be a vegetable what would I be.  An ear of corn?  A carrot? A tomato - no, technically that’s a fruit.  Now my head hurts”. 

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2 hours ago, makelemons said:

JaScam are morons

Yes.  Yes, they are.  How many times do we have to watch the same scenario play out: Sam does something bonehead and almost ends up dead, Jason saves her, then she boo-hoos about how she realized she'd miss her life.  Ho-friggin-hum.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I replayed Sasha fainting about a dozen times. It was so soapy and cheesy.

But it was a good faint!  She went down like a tree, lol.

William Lipton was really good today.  I felt his fear. 

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Sam upon waking:  I wonder where my precious children are?  Who is taking care of them.  What the hell are their names, again? 

We need a gif of Sasha's swoon.

Has Sam ever thought of a lookout person?  It's not as if Jason was busy.   Hitman/enforcer isn't a 9 to 5 job.

Shiloh's got Jason's gun, why doesn't he just frame Jason for something?

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5 hours ago, Sake614 said:

WTF are they doing to poor KSt? Her makeup looks even worse now than it did before she took time off to heal. And I’ve seen twitter pics of her so I KNOW she doesn’t look bad IRL. Do the makeup and wardrobe people hate her that much???

So I’m not the only one who noticed. First off, it looks like they were matching up her neck with her face makeup. She was completely white. There wasn’t any color to her. Then standing next to tan Sasha didn’t help. Secondly, her hair was coming off gray on my screen. There nothing with gray hair but I doubt that’s the look she was going for. Thirdly, she’s looking more and more like Nurse Amy. The weird thing is her Instagram/Twitter pictures don’t match up with how she looks on screen to her current pictures which are only a few weeks behind. I guess she could be Face Tuning the pictures but she doesn’t look like anything like they are showing up on screen. 

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7 hours ago, Pingaponga said:

Just how many psychics does one show need?

Insert joke about Madame Delphina popping by on her way back to Llanview here.

Hell, Opal Cortlandt too, why not.

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58 minutes ago, ciarra said:

We need a gif of Sasha's swoon.

TeeVee, get on that. *remembers epic KA's Kiki spread eagle into the harbor*

Yesterday's episode was blah, but I kind of liked today's Had my two faves, WL was excellent, Sasha's hilarious keeling over, and a good few comedic lines. And Jax, methinks thou doth protest too much. Just saying.

Don't like Ava or Hayden's outfits, but love their hair and makeup. Maxie is a train wreck all the way around.

So here for Hayden calling Valentin Eurotrash.

I've almost done a complete 180 on Sam and Liz. I was a huge Sam fan and hated Liz for years. Now it's almost the exact opposite. If Sam was still with Drew, I'd probably still like her. But I can't take her like this. And don't think I like Franco, because no.

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I totally agree with the concern about Maxie's looks-- she's turning entirely off white-- and yeah- no contouring, she's just stark white.

I also don't understand the umpteenth iteration of Sam wakes up in the hospital traumatized. Because we all know it won't make her question her or Jason's life choices, because that would highlight the fact that Sonny and Jason are criminals who do terrible things. So what's the point of the weeping?

I loved Laura and Ava together-- its nice when two good actresses get to share screen time. 

and neither Shiloh or the doctor LOCKED the door where they kidnapped a child to perform mind wiping experiments on him! Franco just waltzed in. They may be the dumbest criminal masterminds ever.

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I haven't watched the show in a bit because I'm in the middle of moving, so lemme get this straight.

Cam was kidnapped by Shiloh to implant Drew's memories in him?

This is gross and messed up on so many levels if this is the case. Drew's memories are not ones a child should have to handle or suffer through. He was a navy seal, he fought in a war, he's been around explosions and death, he killed people. Drew grew up an orphan. That's not even mentioning implanting a grow man's history of sexual encounters.

I know things like that don't work anyway, but poor sweet Cam.

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16 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

So what's the point of the weeping?

This.  If she's supposedly a ride or die chick and not a damsel in distress, just once, they should have her wake up in the hospital after one of these events and be all, 'damn, that didn't work.  maybe i need to step up my kav magra training, so bitch doesn't get the upper hand a second time'.  

I'd respect that more than what we see every two months.  

18 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

I loved Laura and Ava together-- its nice when two good actresses get to share screen time

And there wasn't any animosity or yelling between them.  Ava almost seemed grateful that Laura (and by extension Scotty) were concerned for her safety.  

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19 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Franco just waltzed in.

My question was, why didn't Franco pick up a weapon before walking in.  Cam's car was parked there illegally, long enoough to get a ticket.  that's red flag number one.  And Franco heard arguing when he walked up to the door.  Red flag number two.  Glance around, grab something, then walk in.  

10 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Cam was kidnapped by Shiloh to implant Drew's memories in him?

Shiloh was aiming for Jason, who beat the crap out of him and took off.  Cam happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.  But not to worry, Franco's come across them and will likely volunteer to do the memory transfer to save Cam.  

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12 hours ago, Originalroux said:

The discussion in Sam’s hospital room about what happens to the person who gets Drew’s memories but is not related:

Sam says they could be left in a vegetative state and I could just see Jason thinking “if I could be a vegetable what would I be.  An ear of corn?  A carrot? A tomato - no, technically that’s a fruit.  Now my head hurts”. 

With his hair, I'd see him being an asparagus.

7 hours ago, paisley said:

Free Cam now!!!!

William Lipton made me believe. Perhaps he should have acting workshops for his older co-workers.

Can you imagine? "Okay, Steve and Mo, I love what you two are doing... really! However, today we are going to work on an emotion other than anger or smug." *Mo and Steve look at each other in confusion*

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11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:
15 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I replayed Sasha fainting about a dozen times. It was so soapy and cheesy.

But it was a good faint!  She went down like a tree, lol.

I loved it!

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9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:
11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:
15 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I replayed Sasha fainting about a dozen times. It was so soapy and cheesy.

But it was a good faint!  She went down like a tree, lol.

I loved it!

Sasha dropping was hilarious to me!! We were all waiting for it to happen especially once she told Maxie that she was feeling under the weather. But I wasn't expecting her to drop at that moment so I just had to chuckle at the timing.

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2 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Shiloh was aiming for Jason, who beat the crap out of him and took off.  Cam happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.  But not to worry, Franco's come across them and will likely volunteer to do the memory transfer to save Cam.  

There is something so massively fucked up about all this, from Drew getting Jason's memories to anyone getting Drew's memories.

This show needs more Franco like I need a good rash.

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5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

There is something so massively fucked up about all this, from Drew getting Jason's memories to anyone getting Drew's memories.

This show needs more Franco like I need a good rash.

If Billy is leaving anyway, why have anyone else get the memory transfer? Why not just have Drew receive his old memories and decide to leave town because he has no memories of living there?   Especially if TB/Kim is leaving as well, though that hasn't been confirmed anywhere.

Plus, you know RoHo will ruin it all by trying to out-Drew Billy's Drew.  

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1 hour ago, perkie1968 said:

If Billy is leaving anyway, why have anyone else get the memory transfer? Why not just have Drew receive his old memories and decide to leave town because he has no memories of living there?   Especially if TB/Kim is leaving as well, though that hasn't been confirmed anywhere.

Plus, you know RoHo will ruin it all by trying to out-Drew Billy's Drew.  

I still don’t think that TB is leaving, especially now that they are trying to make it look like Kim and Julian are leaving together. Seems like the memory storyline is being done to shake up 2 stable couples since all of Liz/Franco and Kim/Julian’s recent issues haven’t lasted more than a couple episodes. 

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Today, on Paraphrase Hospital:

Franco: WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH CAMERON?  I WILL CHEW THE SCENERY

Shiloh:  Hey, I'm the one with the gun, I will chew the scenery.

Cabot:  Might I remind you, the viewers, that this procedure cannot be done on a child, therefore, not a hair off of William Lipton's head will harmed during this storyline.  No need to storm the gates.

Franco:  CHEW CHEW CHEW.  Use me.  I'm a disgusting human being with a psychotic past and everything the writers have tried really hasn't redeemed me in most fan's eyes.  Turning me into heroic Navy Seal Drew Cain should do the trick.

Finn:  Even though the writers originally said this procedure could only be done on identical twins, it is now being retconned that anyone can receive the transfer.

Liz;  You mean, any random person walking off the street can be used?  Cameron, where are you?  Franco, where are you?  Random people you say?  

Sam:  So, innocent people can be used?  Eh whatever, Jason you're my schmoopy woopy.  

Finn:  Sasha has some unknown disease, that even I, an infectious disease specialist has never seen.  We should put her in isolation so as not to contaminate anyone else, even though she would have already contaminated everyone she's come in contact with.

Nina:  You can't isolate her, that's against her human rights.

Me:  Shut up Nina.  

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The awesome writers returned today with Finn muttering to himself about having no authority in his own hospital and Drew and Curtis simultaneously removing Lucy's tequila. It's nice to see Finn in pure doctor mode without Hayden around, and I'm so glad the show is giving Curtis and Drew one last hurrah before Billy exits.

Fucking Jason fishing for validation of his superiority to Drew in the middle of a serious conversation about Shiloh and the memories, I can't even. Not the time or place, dude. Sam and Jason acting playful together was even more strained than usual, given what's going on around them. I don't need Sam weeping, but it's weird to go from "oh no, what Shiloh's doing is my fault" to giggling as Jason tosses her around.

Could Franco, Shiloh, and Cabot have yelled any harder at each other today? It's bad when even I, a longtime  overzealous caps-lock enthusiast, want people to tone it down and be less emotive. Cam is still the only one I care about. Poor kid has already been made to feel guilty for not fully accepting Franco, and now he's going to carry the guilt of Franco no longer being himself. Even though none of this is Cam's fault, he's certainly going to feel a degree of responsibility for disrupting Liz and Franco's happiness, and that's a heavy burden for a kid to bear.

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I thought it was good soap today. William Lipton was awesome, even to snot running out of his nose and and showing the effects of the drug wearing off, and I look forward to when he's a big star.

I liked Cam and Franco trying to save each other and Franco's admission that he can never forget what he did and turning him into Drew would be a benefit to Port Charles. (Something you will never hear Sonny or Jason say.)

The psychic said that things can change from what she sees in the future and at this point I expect Jason to save Franco before the memories are implanted, closely followed by Drew and Curtis if I'm lucky.

Best line of the episode was Finn sotto voce to Elizabeth when she was trying to tell Sam to go back to bed 'we're just the medical professionals '.

16 hours ago, ciarra said:

Has Sam ever thought of a lookout person?  It's not as if Jason was busy.   Hitman/enforcer isn't a 9 to 5 job.

It's looking like Sam has a massive inferiority complex as she compares herself to Jason and she keeps trying to prove that she's just as smart and tough as he is. Which shouldn't be hard to do but she just keeps failing at it.

Neither of them should ever have had a child.

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49 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Don't forget this gem -

Liz: Jason, I traced Cameron's phone to a warehouse at this address. I'm worried.

Jason: Oh. Okay. I'll call Spinelli and have him track down where Cameron is.

Me: SHE JUST TOLD YOU WHERE HE IS, IDIOT.

He can't be bothered to go save the day for someone other than Sam, Sonny, Carly or Michael.

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1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Don't forget this gem -

Liz: Jason, I traced Cameron's phone to a warehouse at this address. I'm worried.

Jason: Oh. Okay. I'll call Spinelli and have him track down where Cameron is.

Me: SHE JUST TOLD YOU WHERE HE IS, IDIOT.

What does Elizabeth know? Spinelli is the tech geek here. Sheesh.

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I'm still confused about Scotty's "meter maid"* conversation.  And why Cameron, who is not allowed to drive, is in trouble for parking in the wrong place?  (Half of the conversation with Laura was missing due to an Emergency Broadcast test, and I can't lip read and am too lazy to turn on the CC). 

*meter maid?  How 1970's.  Is that like "stewardess"?  Way to belittle a woman doing parking enforcement. 

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42 minutes ago, ciarra said:

I'm still confused about Scotty's "meter maid"* conversation.  And why Cameron, who is not allowed to drive, is in trouble for parking in the wrong place?

The car is illegality parked ( I loved the exchange with Cabot yelling at Shiloh for doing that, Keystone Kops funny) and the 'meter maid'' oldster Scott is dating told him because she recognized the parking sticker as being fron Scott's building.

Something I liked in today's episode is that they are all going to the address by different means: Franco from the call from Scott, Drew and Curtis from seeking out Lucy, Jason from Elizabeth (and Spinelli) and Chase from being called by Elizabeth who heard from Cameron's supervisor.

It's interesting writing. Better than Jason Saves The Day.

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48 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

The car is illegality parked ( I loved the exchange with Cabot yelling at Shiloh for doing that, Keystone Kops funny) and the 'meter maid'' oldster Scott is dating told him because she recognized the parking sticker as being fron Scott's building.

Ah, I still don't get it.  Cabot and Shiloh somehow found Cam's car on Scotty's lot, which is probably nowhere near where Cam was picking up garbage, and Cam has the keys with him, even though he's banned from driving?   Then drove it to where it was illegally parked.🤪

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20 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Something I liked in today's episode is that they are all going to the address by different means: Franco from the call from Scott, Drew and Curtis from seeking out Lucy, Jason from Elizabeth (and Spinelli) and Chase from being called by Elizabeth who heard from Cameron's supervisor.

 It's interesting writing. Better than Jason Saves The Day.

Except in all likelihood, Jason will save the day.

I enjoyed ALL CAPS THEATRE today. It's like those three decided the story is so ridiculous they might as well have some fun with it and chew the scenery as much as possible. And wow, I'm shocked there's a set still standing.

Shocker that Shiloh played Crack PI Sam for a fool. And LOL that everything Jason told Sam about resting is what she tells him every time he's in GH. So stupid.

I'm also shocked Jason could name the three children who live intermittently with him and Sam.

Nina, you ding-dong, it's isolation, not prison. It's legal. FFS. The way everyone said goodbye to Sasha, though, it was like she was shipping out.

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39 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Ah, I still don't get it.  Cabot and Shiloh somehow found Cam's car on Scotty's lot, which is probably nowhere near where Cam was picking up garbage, and Cam has the keys with him, even though he's banned from driving?   Then drove it to where it was illegally parked.🤪

She found it illegality parked in front of Cabot's Crap Laboratory of Doom and told Scott where the car was which is how Franco got there.

Cam had the keys with him. Shiloh made Cam show him where the car is, and Shiloh was the one who drove it to the scrap lab. Cam was desperate that Liz know that he didn't drive it with his license suspended.

30 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

 The way everyone said goodbye to Sasha, though, it was like she was shipping out.

Don't tease me. This 'romance' between Michael and Sasha is such a cure for insomnia, it's making me nostalgic for the days of Nelle.

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OK, maybe a dumb question. Also just wondering in general and not just with regards to the scenes with Sasha today. When they don't want an illness to spread, they always show the visitors wearing a gown over their clothes and sometimes a mask and a hat. But their hands are always exposed. And they are usually touching their loved one, even holding hands. Why do they not have to wear gloves or refrain from touching the patient ? I see this in scenes at the NICU too. When they are visiting a preemie, they have the gown, etc. on, but they sometimes hold and handle the baby with their bare hands. Can you not pass on infections, etc. by touch ? I know, I'm thinking about this too much. 😄

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