HalcyonDays March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Episode synopsis: Daryl finds trouble while on a run; Rick and the group feel like outsiders in Alexandria, where trouble approaches the gates. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/
HalcyonDays March 26, 2015 Author Share March 26, 2015 Here is your episode thread for the SEASON 5 FINALE: Conquer. This thread will open at 10:20 pm Sunday night. Prior to this, please go to the Pre-Air Speculation and Live Chat thread for any discussions on the episode. Remember to please keep all discussions polite, respectful and spoiler free. To discuss the episode WITH Comics spoilers, go to: S05.E16: Conquer - Episode Discussion with Comic Spoilers. For shortforms, go to our Acronym and Nickname thread. Don't forget!! The season 5 finale is 90 minutes long. That's right, 1.5 hours of Walking Dead goodness, so don't forget to set your DVRs/PVRs accordingly to make sure you don't miss a single second! And to repeat a little trivia, the episode titles come from this quote: “...I give you the mausoleum of all hope and desire...I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you might forget it now and then for a moment and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it. Because no battle is ever won he said. They are not even fought. The field only reveals to man his own folly and despair, and victory is an illusion of philosophers and fools.” ― William Faulkner, The Sound and the Fury Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-969856
AimingforYoko March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Ha! Morgan's timing is just perfect. Last time they saw each other, he was the crazy (looking) one. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980521
Mya Stone March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Welcome back, Michonne. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980523
raven March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Them fake wolves don't stand a chance. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980524
bosawks March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 I think Rick's "I don't want to lie" is more along the lines of "I want them to do what I tell them to do when I tell them to do it". Those two things are not the same Rick. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980525
raven March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Lennie James on TD! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980527
Popular Post Boilergal March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 Carol: there are terrifying people out there And I'm one of them! 30 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980528
Rosiejuliemom March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Morgan found his Rick. Michonne strapped the katana on again. At least a couple things are right in the world. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980529
Pete Martell March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 I don't know how to feel about Michonne taking that sword back. I'm proud of her, yet I'm also so sad for her. This isn't what she wanted. I'm just glad they had enough confidence in Michonne and Danai to give her that post-credits scene. She more than earned it. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980530
Popular Post NorthstarATL March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 Carol's never going to get her clean dish back. 1 52 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980533
SimoneS March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) So Morgan thinks all life is precious, while Rick is all for killing the bad people. These Alexandrians better change soon. There is not much time left. I am relieved that no one died. I was terrified for my Glenn. Edited March 30, 2015 by SimoneS 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980536
catrox14 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) I am so fucking happy that Rick and Morgan are reunited. Ridiculously happy. Michonne + Katana= OTP Edited March 30, 2015 by catrox14 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980538
natyxg March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Damn, I thought Father Annoying Dumbass was going to die. Damn it. 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980539
Irishmaple March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Damn, guys, my world is rocked. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980540
Popular Post bosawks March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 I think Carol missed her true calling as a cult leader. 37 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980542
natyxg March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Oh man, I missed the post credits scene. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980543
Samx March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Ok. That was pretty great. Even though I was rooting for Glenn and Sasha to kill their respective villains, I guess I get it. Humanity, etc. Welcome Morgan!!! (ETA: I know this may be more appropriate for TD thread but love Lennie's real accent!) Wolves Not Far. Like, 50 miles out. Edited March 30, 2015 by Samx 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980546
Popular Post Macbeth March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 OMG - the best season finale ever. Sasha restrains her self, Glenn restrains himself - but not Rick. Deanna - showing her true self at last and using Rick as a weapon. And it was touching to see that the Walkers are just looking for a good party. 27 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980547
kikismom March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Welcome back, Michonne. Michonne strapped the katana on again. At least a couple things are right in the world. And Michonne didn't wonder how Pete got that katana while Carl and the baby were there? And the house is dark and Carl isn't awake saying a guy broke in here? All isn't right in my world! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980548
bmoore4026 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 So it took the death of Senator Gecko Neck's husband before realizing Rick was right!? Ain't that always the case? Father Cray-cray is still alive. Booooooo! Morgan is in Alexandria now. Yaaaaaaaaay! Daryl and Aaron didn't make out. Dammit! Carol is now in full Lady MacBeth mode. Don't know what to make of this. And the Wolves are coming. Hope they have silver bullets. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980549
Mya Stone March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Anyone else think Morgan was channeling Gob Bluth and thinking to himself, "I've made a huge mistake."? 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980551
SoSueMe March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Wait, did Rick shoot Pete or give Reg a coup de grace? Edited March 30, 2015 by SoSueMe 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980552
Ohwell March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) FPP fought a zombie and laid down crying like a baby, on a muddy road--and his white shirt remained spotless. Otherwise, the epidose was underwhelming. Edit: I mistakenly called it "epidose" but I'm leaving it like it is because I needed a dose of something to keep me awake. Edited March 30, 2015 by Ohwell 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980553
Popular Post Samsnee March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 (edited) I guess FPP's shirt stays so white because the blood stays on his hands. Edited March 30, 2015 by Samsnee 44 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980557
Popular Post Peanut March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 I like that Daryl finally acknowledged that he's an outdoor cat. 30 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980558
lulee March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Carol is now in full Lady MacBeth mode. Don't know what to make of this. She's probably pretty good now that death came to their door. The ASZhats will take a lot less convincing. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980559
minamurray78 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Lennie is brittish, Pete killed Reg, Rick killed Pete, Glenn almost killed Nicholas, and nobody killed Gabriel. The wolved are just 2 guys, and Aaron left them a bagpack full of pics, people included now. ups and downs, people. eta: did Deanna tell Rick to go on and shoot, or not to? I couldn't quite hear. Edited March 30, 2015 by minamurray78 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980560
Myrrhine March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 I loved this. Carol being Carol. Glenn surviving that attack. At least for the moment. I'm really worried that he was bitten. Maggie is a better person than I am. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980561
catrox14 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Guys...I just don't know how to cope with no one important dying and Morgan is back.. I'm so verklempt 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980562
nachomama March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 How did glenn get up from the walkers piling on? What did I miss? Otherwise I'm gathering my thoughts. Other than SQUEEEEEEEEEE 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980564
CarpeDiem54 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Holy shit! What an awesome episode! Deanna finally got! "Rick, do it." The Unfair Wolves have zombie raves with laser lights and everything? Bizarre. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980567
SimoneS March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 I love that Rick came back to himself by the end of this episode. He told my beloved Michonne the truth and it turns out that she was always on his side. Then he decided not to kill Deanna and her group and instead told them that they would have to change. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980568
peach March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Well, that was boring. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980569
mustbekarma March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Oh, goodness, the things I could say about this episode. Everybody who I needed to live lived. People I wanted to die, didn't. All in all, I'm still happy. I felt sorry for Deanna, even though she kind of brought it on herself. If they had separated the wife batterer sooner instead of letting if fester. Good Lord, if Deanna had banished the guy or at least put the man under guard, Reg would be alive. Normally, I like the elements of forgiveness and humanity, but talk about people who don't deserve it. Father Gabriel and the Dick really needed to die. I guess, though, that's the point of forgiveness. I just hope that forgiveness and compassion doesn't bite them in the ass again. I like this finale. People I loved didn't die. In fact, best finale ever. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980573
maystone March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Oh, I don't think the Morgan/Rick reunion is gonna be all roses. Morgan, who is now all "Life is sacred" gets his first glance of Rick in a year - and Rick is blowing away an unarmed man. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980576
Straycat80 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 No, not really the best finale ever. It was OK. Morgan on TD. He's British. A few thoughts: FPP came back from killing two walkers with a pristine white shirt and got no blood or gore on it? The Wolves are only those two guys? A very small group at the Alexandria meeting, I thought there would be more people than that. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980577
Enero March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Morgan!!! YAY! How the heck did he figure out what was going on at the food factory? Did he just see the walkers attacking the car and conclude that there was someone inside? I fear him and Rick are going to have issues, especially with his thought that all life is precious. Also, were the guys Morgan left in the car to be found by walkers the same ones who showed up at the food factory at the end of the episode with the guy in the red parka? Loved the Michonne/Rick scene. Glad he was honest with her and that she made it very clear that she was on his side no matter what. Like some guessed last week she was basically saving Rick from himself when she knocked him the hell out. Glad he recognized this too, before he and her had their honest talk. When Gabriel said, ‘I’m ready.’ I was thinking I’m ready too, for your ass to die. I continue to love Glenn. He is beyond badass. Damn the “W” psychos have Aaron’s bag. So they are most definitely going to be trouble next season. So Deanna is willing to take action when her family member is hurt or killed, but not when someone in her community experiences the same thing? SMH. I do wonder why she’s the final decision maker. Shouldn’t they have a vote on what should be done instead of her making the final decisions? They are after all trying to build a community. Now that the wife beating husband is dead, I guess that pretty much guarantees Rick and the wife will be hooking up next season. Zzzz. This episode had moments that shined, but overall was boring. Edited March 30, 2015 by Enero 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980579
lulee March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 How did glenn get up from the walkers piling on? What did I miss? Not shown. Just general Glenn awesomeness, I guess. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980583
MrsRafaelBarba March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Morgan has arrived and is a damn Ninja in the ZA. Tara woke up. The Wolves are coming! Peace out Reg, Pete and Red Poncho Guy. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980587
ghoulina March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 This finale had some great moments, but as a whole it was kind of underwhelming. I guess that's what I get for reading press blurbs. I was really hoping Nicholas and/or Father Pee Pants were going to bite it. FPP's finally admitting what he did was too little too late for me. And I know that's just not Glenn, but I wish he would have fed that douche Nicholas to a walker. Thrilled, beyond thrilled, to see Morgan back! That dude is a survial badass. And I loved how he and Daryl met, the map, the realization. Great stuff right there. I wanted more from the Rick-Morgan reunion, though. And why did Morgan leave those Wolves alive in the back of that car??? Rick and Pete looked so silly in those bandaids - like my kids were playing in the medicine cabinet. I loved Rick not hesitating for a second to kill Pete, could care less about the Poor Man's Chevy Chase being killed. And generally a bit disappointed that this frees Jessie up for a whole love story with Rick next season. Not because it's Jessie, just blah...not a fan of love stories. "These people are children and children like stories" - Carol for the win! I just love her to pieces. Loved Abe and Eugene making up, and also Abe's defense of Rick - "There's a vast ocean of shit you don't know shit about". Ever so eloquent. Rosita's face when Tara woke up was really sweet - wish we got more of that. So as many of us spec'd, we'll have to wait until next season to deal with these Wolves, but at least now ASZ has a chance of being prepared. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980588
catrox14 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Oh, I don't think the Morgan/Rick reunion is gonna be all roses. Morgan, who is now all "Life is sacred" gets his first glance of Rick in a year - and Rick is blowing away an unarmed man. I think Morgan will remember that Rick tried to talk him off the crazy train in Clear and possibly not actually judge him too much here. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980589
Adam March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Deanna's Sex, Lies, and Videotape leave her with one dim witted son. Nice utopia you got there, pinko. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980590
tennisgurl March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 Did anyone else just want to start screaming "WOLVERINES!!!!" Thrilled to see Morgan back, but I`m a little worried. This show just lost its last black guy, and we all know how that works... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980593
SnoGirl March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 I'm underwhelmed. I wanted the hoard or more choas at Alexandria. There were some moments that I freaked out about but I guess I was expecting more. Loved Eugene with Tara, as well as Abraham and Rosita with Tara. I hated all of them when they first appeared but now, I love their little family unit. I'm so glad Abraham and Eugene made up. The stuff with Glenn freaked me out. I will be cushed if anything happens to him. I'm glad he didn't kill Nicholas, but I am hoping Nicholas is going to be Walker-Chow sooner rather then later. I feel we were deprived of an awesome scene of Glenn fighting off three walkers for the sake of him jumping out of the woods to get Nicholas, I wish we would have seen him fighting them off. Loved that Morgan is back. I hope he's long for this world and him and Rick get some scenes. I hope Sasha and Gabriel are on the mend mentally now. Well, really I just hope Sasha is. Gabriel can be walker chow too. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980595
SimoneS March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Oh, goodness, the things I could say about this episode. Everybody who I needed to live lived. People I wanted to die, didn't. All in all, I'm still happy. I felt sorry for Deanna, even though she kind of brought it on herself. If they had separated the wife batterer sooner instead of letting if fester. Good Lord, if Deanna had banished the guy or at least put the man under guard, Reg would be alive. Probably, but I am a bit torn. Abusive men are the most dangerous when their wives escape their control. Pete would have been dangerous even if she had acted sooner to separate him from Jessie. The only end for Pete was his death. Edited March 30, 2015 by SimoneS 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980597
raven March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 So Deanna is willing to take action when her family member is hurt or killed, but not when someone in her community experiences the same thing? I think it was more "pissed off, vengeance" than taking action. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980600
Popular Post The Mighty Peanut March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Did Rick push his hand up into it's head and squish it's brain out through it's mouth? So many awesome moments but I think my favorite was Carol making Ed Pete her bitch. "And I want my dish back...clean!" Edited March 30, 2015 by The Mighty Peanut 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980603
Texasmom1970 March 30, 2015 Share March 30, 2015 (edited) Am I the only one who wanted Rick and Morgan to hug so glad Lennie James has finally found Rick. Biting my nails scared something was going to happen to Glenn. He is too good of a person I would have shot that asshat in a heartbeat! Edited March 30, 2015 by Texasmom1970 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980606
Popular Post peach March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share March 30, 2015 "These people are children and children like stories" - Carol for the win! I just love her to pieces. That was definitely the best line of the night. 25 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/24309-s05e16-conquer/#findComment-980611
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